asciilifeform: Their primary purpose fulfilled, they had no agenda supportable with violence anymore due to the creation of the state of Israel’s presence. Instead of disbanding after their success, the Irgun continued to remain active, shifting into a productive political role. ' -- random usg derp
asciilifeform: 'When a terrorist group such as the Irgun Zvai Leumi sees their key objective completed, what do they do? In the case of their use of terrorism, the Irgun came to an end not because the funds died out or support waned, but because the leadership recognized the need to move to a more democratic and non-violent strategy. In order to continue pushing for additional change, no longer would the Irgun act under overt auspices of violence.
asciilifeform: this thread a little too thin for asciilifeform's naked eye.
asciilifeform: ( most famously -- opium in cn. but similar elsewhere. )
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that this is only half-correct -- brits also helped folx pick up the aids.
asciilifeform: there is a pov that irgun was british-infested even earlier, though, and 'lehi' was the tru-fork. but i do not have a deep enough picture of the period events to say if.
asciilifeform: and this was the d00d who ran irgun ! supposedly, tough motherfucker who killed brits with bare hands etc.
asciilifeform: ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel'☟︎
asciilifeform: '...Everything that concerned him was international community, which he thought was in his pocket. Now it was in his pocket in the sense that he was in their pocket.'
asciilifeform: phf: i'd doubt that the existing open sores turd would do the job ( esp how 'render without gpu' is a more or less entirely untested component, 'everyone has gpu!111' etc )
asciilifeform: ( to one day be rid of closed turd gpu )
asciilifeform: phf: i know very little re eulora design process, but did assume that mircea_popescu et al deliberately put in a polygon count limit, and that the logic was approx like this.
asciilifeform: an ada '3d engine' would be quite a thing, incidentally
asciilifeform: mod6: i was actually thinking moar of own experience with it, than yours
asciilifeform: i've found that teaching ada to c programmer is almost a miniature course in subj
asciilifeform: but the responsibility to be a man rather than monkey -- cannot be delegated to tool.
asciilifeform: so to a certain extent tools can shape habit. and the bridges are maintained, instead of folx clustering around the souped car.
asciilifeform: naggum had an interesting discussion re cl ( and iirc also mentioned ada, his other-language ) in re discouragement of 'easy to write small throwaway programs' as a factor in building durable infrastructure ( vs liquishit, which in his time consisted of microshit and of perlism )
asciilifeform: so imho it's a thing to avoid on general principle. let each one speak for self.
asciilifeform: bots attempting to process output from other bots makes for potentially hilarious (try GB log bloat...) bugs
asciilifeform: trinque: assbot is not really used for anything, nobody's rated anyone in eons, logs will likely run until he trips over the cable. hence thread re links.
asciilifeform: trinque: kako now runs a public pissoire , voice-for-all, complete with gimmebots, ethertards, etc., many joys☟︎
asciilifeform: my thinking is -- at some point the old kakotronic logs will either go away or be subsumed by enemy for whatever purpose ( if only ip gluetrap ) -- and it is the Wrong Thing to countenance the use of'em.
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes l0gz feature request -- turn the href in links to *.bitcoin-assets.com into btcbase ( printed text of link can remain same, in principle )
asciilifeform: !~later tell Framedragger l0gz feature request -- turn the href in links to *.bitcoin-assets.com into btcbase ( printed text of link can remain same, in principle )☟︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf l0gz feature request -- turn the href in links to *.bitcoin-assets.com into btcbase ( printed text of link can remain same, in principle )
asciilifeform: 'It only claims to "limit" the side-channel leaks. I don't know how serious this is...'
asciilifeform: 'This variant of BN_mod_exp_mont() uses fixed windows and the special precomputation memory layout to limit data-dependency to a minimum to protect secret exponents'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669058 >> this is a lulzgem, 'I also tested BN_mod_exp_mont_consttime from OpenSSL since that's a large function which calls functions from several other files. It turns out not to be constant time! There's a secret dependent memory access...'☝︎
asciilifeform: mod6: just got home, no interesting noos
asciilifeform: phf: the thing i repeatedly caution folx against, is to do anything that might result in the existence of vpatches which require tools ~other than v~ to fit-in-head/operate on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's an illustration of typical 'free agent' tho -- i.e. imbecile interested in 'free coke' rather than any coherent action with >1hr horizon. i.e. beast of the field.
asciilifeform: well, theoretically box consisting of two gurlz with telegraph keys, relaying packets by hand -- not porous. but this is not what folx typically buy as 'router'..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: router is porous even to quite elementary approach - e.g. stuffing 'optional' fields in outgoing packets full of exfiltrolade; or into timing gaps, etc
asciilifeform: !~later tell Framedragger do you perchance remember where in the logs i posted phuctor's key parser ?☟︎
asciilifeform: i see 2 lines of the needed 'image fix and a bunch of ???
asciilifeform: mod6: afaik only problem was with the i/o in the test proggy.
asciilifeform: s other locations in Maryland and elsewhere.'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: kinds of exchanges is a good place to start..' << lol!!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667688 >> gold, '...they often go through exchanges hosted outside the US... unlicensed, unregulated and unwilling to abide by basic anti-money laundering and know-your-customer regulations, rules that digital currency exchanges in the US and Western Europe must abide by... If Congress and regulators are serious about tackling the national security implications of digital currencies, taking on these☝︎☟︎
