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asciilifeform: the comp per se is tiny % of the bill.
asciilifeform: ( heavy gear, incidentally, typically ships with the tethered comp, as a set )
asciilifeform: nao if somebody had seen it fit to tell the machine builder that !
asciilifeform: ( 'it dept' carted away the 'obsolete' early-90s crapple, leaving the nao-useless scanner thing to sit sadly , occupying good chunk of a room )
asciilifeform: dun even have to go far into 'exotica' to witness this. 1 slave galley had a spiffy $maxint automatic book digitizer, that was a paperweight for decade+ because lost its greybeard and the ancient crapple it was tethered to
asciilifeform: then he retires and it goes to scrapyard, and replaced with 'modern', lol.
asciilifeform: typically even these have a greybeard 'attached' to the thing, lovingly tends the msdos 5.0 on old scsi disk, etc
asciilifeform: point upstack being, 100% of what i've touched with own hands of 'adult' heavy equip without microshit or systemd etc in it somewhere, was 1980s vintage or earlier.
mircea_popescu: back when the gaskets leaked.
mircea_popescu: rare exceptions, a la http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-mark-cuban/ ; mostly from the early days of the chumpatron
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd be surprised what % of trumpeted "great soviet financial coups" are exactly of the substance and consistency of forum investors' victories.
asciilifeform: ha, made a sale. that's much farther than asciilifeform got..
trinque: asciilifeform: don't worry, other half had to get raped on stock options prior to subsequent sale
trinque: (somehow... didn't can trinque)
trinque: poor guy. I had the good fortune to watch half a hardware startup get laid off at 16.
asciilifeform: if i had known that the real problem is the win95 that runs in natotards' ~heads~, would have saved coupla yrs of life and be somewhat less poor nao...
asciilifeform: ( 1 time asciilifeform took such a piece of industrial gear, carefully stripped off the microshit, wrote replacement, and tried to sell as product... but this tale is in the l0gz somewhere )
asciilifeform: you'd be disgusted if saw what runs typical 'pro' gear.
mircea_popescu: kinda in the manner windows-only interface gvies away the george supran-style "scientists", the kind that researches community consensuses.
asciilifeform: aha, blinkenlights, 'guarantees', 3-4fig price, the lot.
mircea_popescu: "push this button to detect" sorta lulzitems.
mircea_popescu: generally the "intuitive" interface gives it away.
asciilifeform: approx same 'analyzer' that you'd get simply by connecting a germanium diode across a hardware shop voltmeter.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/l96tM << typical specimen.
asciilifeform: try an' buy any of a coupla basic things, and before you know it you're knee deep in the liquishit
mircea_popescu: stuff to do in the "den" for the sort of retard who can't figure out by looking whether charger cord reaches the socket or not, gotta try it out
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, i know, to my grief
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, at least a subset of these, ~are~ a kind of orcish spectral analyzer. but missing massive chunks of spectrum , 0 provision for external antennae , mostly display johnson noise )
mircea_popescu: you know those are actually a whole subculture ?
asciilifeform: for a laugh, look some time for spectrum analyzer on lulazon. will find 9000 'homeopathic' boxes for 'finding the cia mind control rays'. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 04:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at one point i needed some conductive cloth (the kind with silver strands) for an experiment. to my great surprise, i discovered that there is a large manufacturer in usa, and they do brisk business with folks suffering from precisely the kind of phobia described in decimation's link.
mircea_popescu: "from outer space, paris right next to berlin"
mircea_popescu: if you think of it as a potentials map, suddenly it becomes evident : large cancerous accretion mass drives all other things closer together
a111: Logged on 2016-02-15 17:58 asciilifeform: specifically how there is no place in usa where one can 'i will pay double for non-monsanto but i don't give a fuck about 'gmo' and i sure as fuck don't want to see homeopathic crud in the shop'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 01:37 asciilifeform: the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones
asciilifeform: lulzily i documented this in the past , in http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-03#1260586 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-15#1406177 ☝︎☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 22:03 mircea_popescu: phf no, they just didn't have fish at the fish shop ; the meat they didn't have at the meat shop.
mircea_popescu: this is at the heart of soviet survival -- "we call it this but really it does that" aka http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561507 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it HAS to be "strange" and "weird", otherwise can't make it in the ocean of "woke" shit.
asciilifeform: why pitched as homeopathic then
mircea_popescu: just normal toothpaste. ☟︎
asciilifeform wonders what goes in 'homeopathic' toothpaste -- clostridium ?!
mircea_popescu: this is where "homeopathic" ended up : "want some toothpaste without mint, sugar or fluoride ? aaaaaahahahah, here you go."
mircea_popescu: hence mormons, "we belive in weird shit, bless our underwear ~~~AND DON'T TOLERATE ANNOYING WOMEN~~~".
asciilifeform: lol seems like they stock the bulgarian thing!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is how things go in lulzistan : "nutty" ideologies that survive do so because pick up the practical slack of soviet idiocy.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 20:03 asciilifeform: the only reason i even use lulazon for anyffing, 'pay 80bux/y and the rest of the yr can order 3 m3 screws and two metres of #10 copper shipped sameday for 0 extra' etc
mircea_popescu: find out just how well the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843161 pipe dream works. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: eyy, anyone want to guess what i found in the toothpaste?
mircea_popescu: then idiots wanna talk about "what'd millionaires do with their time". certaintly, certainly not this, taking apart the heart of one's enemies so not on the list.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i get to read, you realise, the A papers of contemporary valedictorians and whatnot. the incas' brightest and bravest, career women to the last soul and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: how do you think i came up with it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you should try this 'riddle' on fresh off the boat usian gurlz, btw. i shit thee not, they dun teach the 'times table' nomoar
mircea_popescu: "why should anyone have to notice 69's but a 7 under 70"
mircea_popescu: "if everything's uncomputably large then therefore i no longer have to be able to say 7 * 69 = 483 within a second or so"
mircea_popescu: very much that and nothing at all else.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the probable "cause" for there not being sane dict for living langs, you realise, is that there IS such a thing as a cannonical body of greek, but "who is to say what anglovomit does not make the cut".
mircea_popescu: very much a direct translation of "throwing the curve", ie, "if http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1842058 then therefore prof MP can't flunk as all for not having had done the homework" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ye olde hope of the "democratic" "paficist" panworldism : if nobody can as much as fart without involving ~everyone else, "world peace".
asciilifeform: ( the remnants of ru ic capability -- definitely known to. fughet even ic, even kalash in izhevsk made on german mills. )
asciilifeform: this goes even for the asian industrial titans. last i knew, chinese ic fabs still were using gear from siemens etc
asciilifeform: some monkey reservations still sitting on result of 100+y of human activity; others -- not; is the only real diff.
mircea_popescu: but yes, world of monkeys reverts to monkey world.
mircea_popescu: in fact the us is pretty much there, it's just you don't live in "midwest".
asciilifeform: the end of that road loox something like BingoBoingostan, where if you want to get something other than pile of goat shit or a 'samsung' lcd tv, gotta smuggle it past the border in anal pouches
asciilifeform: ( usa is pretty far along this zimbabweization continuum, and definitely sliding as we speak, but it is still possible to get parts there in day or 2 , reliably. for nao... )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 14:14 asciilifeform: kurt tank tore out his hair, iirc 'they don't even know how to make machine screws'
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit tho is that industrial production (not even speaking of laboratory experimentation) is agonizingly centralized; if i had to set up FG production in bananistan, would prolly still be stuck sourcing resistors, and tearing out hair, like kurt tank in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839406 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 21:01 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: astronomical rents, i suspect, also play a part. it is ~impossible to stay open if you stock anything that doesn't move continuously. specialist shops are the first to die.
asciilifeform: 'the giant sat down in chair' or how did mircea_popescu put it in the old piece
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 20:37 asciilifeform: ( incidentally, if you think m3 ~screw~ is impossible to find in shops here -- try a ~tap~. one time asciilifeform broke a m3 tap and wanted a replacement quickly, and like complete idiot tried to buy ~in shops~. result : wasted weekend )
asciilifeform: ( see e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812485 thread ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: lulazon is inca-centralizing to an extent lolmart et al could only have dreamed of -- ~0 competition in described space
mircea_popescu: in general, "sell the policeman an apple for twice what you'd sell it to an orc" is sounder policy than alternatives.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 22:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, ~this~ is the "network effect" advantage : that should amazon's cart fail for three minutes, amazon would lose ~0 dollar value -- those schmucks will just come back. this is the niche the empire ever hopes to inhabit, and that it works is directly evident in the decrease of quality of life the zeks permitted over the past century. great-grandfather of ustard, ozlander or argentine lived A LOT better than the grandfath
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 20:17 mircea_popescu: "you want diplomatic relations, first you pay 10x what we think you broke should be valued at, then maybe"
mircea_popescu: using the sort of devices which make inca's seat an added tax, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-17#1842669 , rather than a natural bonus, as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842837 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the general, a most important chore of the republic is to destroy the economic basis of "paris", ie the notional metropolis,
asciilifeform: the only reason i even use lulazon for anyffing, 'pay 80bux/y and the rest of the yr can order 3 m3 screws and two metres of #10 copper shipped sameday for 0 extra' etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as it is, the politics carefully (and secretly) constraining it, all that's left visible is harmless nonsense, a la "saudis buyers of luxury cars"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you may find it interesting that back in its native orcistan , lulazon appeals largely by playing subscription games with shipping
mircea_popescu: but yes, it could be. if not specifically suppressed ~by policy~, the major-est market for german machinery would have been russia, and the biggest buyers of machineguns the zulu etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. notice how amazon carefully charges the shipping separately.\
mircea_popescu: in any case, let it not be said economy is ~necessarily~ centralizing. if one uses the strand of centralizing devices, it can be. one doesn't have to.
asciilifeform: this is troo of just about all industrial goods tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik. and mostly sold to non-metropolitans, because those are fucked in the head and have "fashions" to explain why they suck.
mircea_popescu: ie, "all good things flow ~away~ from the town", reversal of ye olde greek observation.
mircea_popescu: consequently, this sort of auction actually favours the shipping, especially of choice goods, AWAY from the city.
mircea_popescu: obviously people bake in the cost of their peripheral-ness in their price judgements, which is why i'm willing to pay 10 bux a pound for cherries here, whereas in romania they're ~free for the picking.
mircea_popescu: because the actual item delivered (something + ~shipping~) varies according to who buys it, there's actually a larger incentive for agents located ~at the periphery~ to buy it. ie, if you live in paris and shipping is 1 ecu, a bit of 100 ecu means you're paying 99 ecu for the item. if you live however in christchurch and shipping is 99 ecu, a 100 ecu bid means you're getting the item for 1 ecu.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, for they interested in "price theory" : the above is an exemplar of an interesting class of economic objects, anti-metropolitan let's call them.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-12-18 20:44:22: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 163 has ENDED: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. SOLD to danielpbarron for 1mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: 'shards of the true cross'(tm)(r) eh
asciilifeform doesn't own much in the way of toys with aftermarket value
asciilifeform: i dun expect it'll add up to financing-anyffing
mircea_popescu: weren't you going to do an inventory of your midden, to finance something or the other at some point ?
asciilifeform: speaking of this, if any l1 folx wants the c101pa carcass, probes and all, and the spare MBs etc, plox to write in
asciilifeform destroyed unspeakably fine toys by the crateload, to the great frustration of his elder brother
mircea_popescu: immaturity, if you will, most intelligent small children are consumed by a desire to destroy their toys to see what's inside.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, jacobin stands today for "an immoderate search for truth, more liable to burn shit down than discover any truths".