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mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907109 << liters natively typecast into cubic decimeters!!!! BY DESIGN! ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907101 << why ? consider the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869285 ; what ELSE is supposed to be an os primitive ? maybe, code colorization too ? maybe the os should have a native concept of "what the data means to you" ? ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 21:49 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907023 << whytheFUCK wouldja want the nullterm-string warcrime to exist on a brand-new arch ?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907081 << i opted to let that pass in silence, too much work to open the can from that seam. but... yeah, no fucking strings, not ever again. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 21:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907021 << 'dos' as typically discussed here is simply shorthand for 'os that fits in coupla kB and gets the fuck out of the way and speaks only when spoken to' , roughly
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907079 << in retrospect it's not clear what specific vhs-dos we mean when we just say "dos" in such contexts, but i believe the "brain-operation-immune" part is central -- can delete modules w/o "reboot". ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907069 << no, but see, we discovered a significant disconnect here. we DO. NOT. SUPPORT. ANYTHING. fuck them all. there's no pseudo-"friendly" postelism contemplated, there's no incumbent desire or inclination to "provide" for a vague, imagined "audience" clamoring somewhere downstream. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907063 << you'll have to explain this sometime. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907060 << well... it WAS bootstrap... keks. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907058 << wait, what ?! ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907057 << it was remarkably painless in munich ; some turkish i think dood in a tobacconist-7/11mix, took all of five minutes. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907044 << i actually don't think "floating point" is a good idea altogether. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907040 << this is actually a solid point. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907026 << i can't conceive what small endian ~even is for~. what is it for ? i'm against even supporting it altogether, you want to computer, use a computer that netowrk oders. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907037 << did you see the ivory xray sets ? people here will trust what they can verify, quite literally. the trust model is built atop the wot, which is quite fundamental to how stuff works here. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907031 << one actually wants to have an antifuse boot rom, yes. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907014 << actually my own questiosn are different. line 1 : is this a live project or is it mostly scar tissue left behind a dead dude a la http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/ ; line 2 how pantsuit-infested is it, actually, can we work together or will we have to fork if we intend to. basically, "looks remarkably good, i wonder what's the catch" phase. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907008 << this is so ; actually if you feel like writing an as-complete-as-feasible list / essay it'll prolly turn into quite the workable schelling point for further discussion there. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907005 << this part is actually up in the air ; and premature yet for me to call for discussion or attempt a standardization process. from your pov, however, likely the most shocking aspect is that the republic doesn't consist of the usual developer, ie http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/ aka the enthusiat dork who sees himself as some kind of trailblazer, finding new ways into the ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1906994 << the long term expectation, along with the only possible direction, is the republic prevailing, in this as any other matter. there's a lot of ideological debt you may be interested in i guess. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1906987 << the lordship list is over at http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/ ; those are all (if not the only) contributors. in the immortal words of joe polito, "i'm telling you, as a courtesy. i need to do this thing, so it's gonna get done". ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1906980 << yes ; progressing from a gentoo fork end, from an ada-as-systems-language end, from a bitcoin-has-to-be-an-os / needs-own-fs end, and from a few other too small to list yet. ☝︎
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/04/mes-part-2-bootstrapping-guix/ << bvt's backtrace -- Mes, Part 2: Bootstrapping Guix
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/google-gives-up-on-assembling-ai-ethics-panel-over-irreconcilable-political-differences/ << Qntra -- Google Gives Up On Assembling AI Ethics Panel Over Irreconcilable Political Differences
deedbot: Invoiced whaack 0.018 << Annual shared hosting on UY1
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 08:49 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 <-- don't you find it weird, though, that you say this, and then after just a few lines you http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907238 ? this is not a rhetorical question: you're unimpressed by the recorded 5+yo history of discussions of a group of ~actual people~, and the reflection therein of their ~actually doing~ things; and then immediately you go on to referen
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907286 << to make matters worse still -- i tried , but still cannot fathom what was the connection b/w the linked pediwikism and the thread.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907304 << i formerly thought that this was obvious from the docs , but you ~can~ operate on vpatches without a vtron ( they're edible by trad. unix 'patch' util, and you can verify the sigs with anyffin roughly gpg-like , also by hand ) ☝︎☝︎☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907277 << it works fine without the javascript, i use it regularly in lynx (and occasional exotic browsers like netsurf), but i suspect it will fail in a browser, that both fails to display SVG and then fails to display a link map ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 <-- don't you find it weird, though, that you say this, and then after just a few lines you http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907238 ? this is not a rhetorical question: you're unimpressed by the recorded 5+yo history of discussions of a group of ~actual people~, and the reflection therein of their ~actually doing~ things; and then immediately you go on to referen ☝︎☝︎☟︎
deedbot: asciilifeform rated OriansJ 1 << neophyte / temp. voice
a111: Logged on 2018-10-24 16:55 asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/photo/yoke.jpg << actual photo of procedure.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-24#1865586 << 1 variant. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-24#1617495 << see also historical parallel for subj. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 21:51 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907037 << i recommend to read the logs re 'specificity' ( picture yourself baking a sabotaged fpga , for victim whose gate net you do not know in advance. what would you put in it ? )
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/04/06/pizarro-march-2019-report/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro March 2019 Report
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907066 << people who demand oddball instructions, can simply write own fpga payload and go happily on own path -- what am i missing ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907058 << this is where i say 'wtf' . what am i missing here ? where and for what do you need the ieee erroneous-arithmetics liquishit ?! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907042 << all of these archs were missing essential piece for sanity -- type tagging and bounds checking. ( i.e. if running ada or lisp 'costs extra' on your iron vs. c , your arch is broken ! ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907038 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-26#1904867 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907037 << i recommend to read the logs re 'specificity' ( picture yourself baking a sabotaged fpga , for victim whose gate net you do not know in advance. what would you put in it ? ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907027 << why would 'compat with x86' be ANY kind of consideration ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907023 << whytheFUCK wouldja want the nullterm-string warcrime to exist on a brand-new arch ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907021 << 'dos' as typically discussed here is simply shorthand for 'os that fits in coupla kB and gets the fuck out of the way and speaks only when spoken to' , roughly ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907008 << asciilifeform is quite curious re what 'ideas in posix worth preserving', i can't think of even one ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907021 <-- the problem with "portability" (in the sense of supporting/maintaining the same software interface across different hardware architectures/configurations) is that it's a convenient lie most of the times. the goal isn't to implement the same DOS for all architectures, but to have some sort of DOS that provides some functionality and otherwise stays out of the pr ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907037 <-- on the longer term, something along the lines of http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ice40 ; on the shorter, http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=apu / http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rk ☝︎
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1906987 << well, this depends on the subset of ada; re contributors - this is a known issue ☝︎
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated OriansJ 1 << Loaning voice
BingoBoingo: http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=49 << FFA, the author asciilifeform is dealing with a fever, but he is usually around
a111: Logged on 2019-03-18 15:31 asciilifeform: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/03/mes-part-1-stage0/#selection-29.94-29.340 << imho ~100% of the attempts on record , made exactly same mistake -- they assumed that 'architecture-specific aspects creep into the design of the boostrapping process' only concerns ~what is there~ in the arch, and not ~what is not there~ (e.g. sane memory management, type tags) . if you dun put the complexity of certain necessary sanities where it belongs -- i
deedbot: bvt rated OriansJ 1 << stage0 author
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/gps-disciplined-time-to-experience-undisciplined-event-this-weekend/ << Qntra -- GPS Disciplined Time To Experience Undisciplined Event This Weekend
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, http://qntra.net/2019/04/46-pantsuitist-candidates-already-lined-up-for-presidential-primary-showdown/ << deliberate misspelling to suggest "putain" or accidental misspelling that suggests putain ?
a111: Logged on 2019-04-04 20:58 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/bezos-deals-35-billion-usd-in-amazon-stock-to-wife-for-splitting/ << Qntra -- Bezos Deals: 35 Billion USD In Amazon Stock To Wife For Splitting
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-04#1906898 << but could she buy russia is the question ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-04#1906894 << this is both persuasive in theory and observed in practice. ☝︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/bezos-deals-35-billion-usd-in-amazon-stock-to-wife-for-splitting/ << Qntra -- Bezos Deals: 35 Billion USD In Amazon Stock To Wife For Splitting ☟︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/46-pantsuitist-candidates-already-lined-up-for-presidential-primary-showdown/ << Qntra -- 46 Pantsuitist Candidates Already Lined Up For Presidential Primary Showdown
a111: Logged on 2019-04-04 00:32 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/jbnUc/?raw=true << asciilifeform's attempt at loose transl.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-04#1906867 << this is actually quite excellent. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-04 01:03 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906621 << no need to redo. you can fire off as many of those as you like.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-04#1906869 <-- tyvm trinque! ☝︎
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-04#1906877 << i don't have selection installed. I add custom id tags when i want to link to a specific thing in my articles ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906858 << quite exactly so ; hence http://trilema.com/2010/in-criza-de-modele/#selection-93.353-97.74 ☝︎
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 16 hours and 22 minutes ago: <spyked> could pl0x look at deedbot deposits when you get the time? fyi, I started two !!deposit and only did the latter; can cancel the former, I'll redo it later if needed
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906621 << no need to redo. you can fire off as many of those as you like. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/jbnUc/?raw=true << asciilifeform's attempt at loose transl. ☟︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/3BzWj << oblig oldlit.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> the driver of the error is the desire of having a ~unique~ personality. it is not deemed sufficient, by contemporary man, to merely have the same personality as the entire tableau of orthodox saints. there's too many of those, see. gotta be unique. as it can't be unique and meaningful at te same time (think, can it ?)... all that's left is the getting-drunk-on-tapwater "secret parameters". << On the USG side also likely
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 20:11 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906628 << think : if this worked you;d know because conflicting tx would be 9000% of the mempool, because chinese fatty dun need you for anything, casn produce conflicts by his self.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906728 << see downthread -- it is entirely possible that they ~are~ (and indeed 'dun need you, he can make own', was noted in thrd) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 20:20 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906640 << there is almost no case where mining n tx is better than mining n+1. some miners do multi-hashing, where they mine different blocks (generally, off-by-one tx blocks) on varios chunks of their farms (mostly because of naive chinese-like notions re chance), but this is not that.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906734 << notion wasn't that parellel-mine of n, but that 'feed old tx1 to peers, while mine new tx2 that conflicts so to hose'em' ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906663 << i see ~daily. incl today, bchain.info had within second o frelay. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906661 << i do not believe so ; not in the sense he does not do a lot. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 17:13 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906628 << to expand on this: say you issued tx1 where input i and output o1. he sees it, it goes to back of queue, as uninteresting, he does not mine it himself, but does relay to competitors. but if you also issue a and tx2, where input i and output o2, o2 != o1 , ~then~ tx2 goes to front of his queue, as by mining it he can throw caltrop to the competing miners , invalidating their chain
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906640 << there is almost no case where mining n tx is better than mining n+1. some miners do multi-hashing, where they mine different blocks (generally, off-by-one tx blocks) on varios chunks of their farms (mostly because of naive chinese-like notions re chance), but this is not that. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: </end sarcasm>
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 15:33 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906599 << Indeed. Can't even get Maduro to arrest him. China's got their Army Liberation People on the ground and in uniform handing out aid.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906637 << another shining success by usg.blue, those bright chaps whose disdain at http://btcbase.org/log/2014-05-04#659152 is so very withering, as it comes from such higi loci of intellectual superiority and cultural overwhelm. ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906628 << think : if this worked you;d know because conflicting tx would be 9000% of the mempool, because chinese fatty dun need you for anything, casn produce conflicts by his self. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 14:54 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906616 << this is a well-known effect ( most famously, possibly involved in how 'bitbet' burned down ) and i've personally observed it erry single time i sent coin in past coupla yrs . tx dun move until you send a conflicting tx . why the miners do this -- i still do not know
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906624 << because cemented in "standard practices" because it has to be because for political reasons had to pretend it was at some point because etcetera. ~same reason basketball players wear wifebeater-cut tops and soccer players wear t-shirt tops. could very well be backwards, but isn't because etcetera. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 15:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906605 << i entirely agree that reading human text in typewriter chars is painful. gotta point out tho , that 'truetype' monstrosity is not justified thereby, it is possible to have horizontally-variable bitmap font (simply store the # of horiz. pixels as matrix , for 'kerning' space , and otherwise same )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906632 << i have no confidence in tghe truetype/whatevr "standards", a lot of actual experience with both empire and alt-empire standards guts has cured me for three lifetimes. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906623 << i fucking bet. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906614 << actually, it was a morongarten. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-393.393-393.502 << oblig
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906628 << to expand on this: say you issued tx1 where input i and output o1. he sees it, it goes to back of queue, as uninteresting, he does not mine it himself, but does relay to competitors. but if you also issue a and tx2, where input i and output o2, o2 != o1 , ~then~ tx2 goes to front of his queue, as by mining it he can throw caltrop to the competing miners , invalidating their chain ☝︎☟︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/english-judge-i-cannot-think-of-any-more-obviously-fundamental-human-right-than-the-right-of-a-man-to-have-sex-with-his-wife/ << Qntra -- English Judge: "I Cannot Think Of Any More Obviously Fundamental Human Right Than The Right Of A Man To Have Sex With His Wife"
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906599 << Indeed. Can't even get Maduro to arrest him. China's got their Army Liberation People on the ground and in uniform handing out aid. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906605 << i entirely agree that reading human text in typewriter chars is painful. gotta point out tho , that 'truetype' monstrosity is not justified thereby, it is possible to have horizontally-variable bitmap font (simply store the # of horiz. pixels as matrix , for 'kerning' space , and otherwise same ) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 08:36 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 , http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906572 <-- was thinking about the same, that txen should diffuse quickly; but then there I was waiting for >1hr at the 4th or so tx sent, and when I looked again it magically propagated *and* got confirmed. why this and none of the previous 3, no idea (one of them had higher tx fee, even)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906616 << this is a well-known effect ( most famously, possibly involved in how 'bitbet' burned down ) and i've personally observed it erry single time i sent coin in past coupla yrs . tx dun move until you send a conflicting tx . why the miners do this -- i still do not know ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 20:26 feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/04/signature-for-spykeds-keccak-regrind-of-logbot_command_router_python_genesis/ << lobbesblog -- Signature for spyked's Keccak regrind of logb...esis
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906579 <-- ohey, cool! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 << the 1 gotcha, is that if you (or peers) are wedged (genuinely wedged, on db grind; or peers wedged; or stuck on island in sea of prb; or... buncha documented , in log, cases ) then will get exactly 'where the fuck is my tx' errytime
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 18:24 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906547 << in principle sub-minute with "whatever" arrangement, sub-second achievable if you baby your network connections.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 , http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906572 <-- was thinking about the same, that txen should diffuse quickly; but then there I was waiting for >1hr at the 4th or so tx sent, and when I looked again it magically propagated *and* got confirmed. why this and none of the previous 3, no idea (one of them had higher tx fee, even) ☝︎☝︎☟︎