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decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently usg isn't paying off the masses in bezzlars sufficiently
mircea_popescu: basically this is like saying "for as long as the usg prints money , this company can capture about 1.2-1.5% of it"
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 -1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
decimation: note that these 'payments' are mostly not direct transfers (checks from the treasury). They are mostly things like implicit guarantee to banks that usg will 'force solvency', health 'insurance' (free health care), and 'free' roads.
decimation: ;;later tell ben_vulpes re: explain "usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes" << Well, I was thinking of the very straightforward sense in which the majority of humans on us territory receive more dollars from usg than give to usg.
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/11/nsa-ttp-2014.pdf << usg loves software patents; sells licenses!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell decimation please for to explain to retards like me "asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue"
ben_vulpes: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue << wat
mircea_popescu: "all the work usg agents are saving you ? it's work you still have to do. they're just persuasively and pervasively lying about it, while it collects interest undone."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << not supposedly. actual fact.
mircea_popescu: decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses? <<< you can't be serious ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru. <<< opium wars 2.0 ?
assbot: SSDP M-Search Attack - Another Amplified Reflexive DDoS Attack Analysis - The Nexusguard Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1vkMGHb )
asciilifeform: http://blog.nexusguard.com/ssdp-ddos-attacks << intro to the type of idiot vulnerability used by mr. flood.
decimation: the only armored aircraft I know usg flies is the A-10, and they are trying to get rid of them
asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina'
decimation: asciilifeform: I tend to agree. Did you see that USG banned flying over st. louis? For your safety.
decimation: asciilifeform: wrt police need to know < I think there is some credibility to Mr. Y's thinking that urban police 'bridge the gap' between crazy usg policy and reality
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue
asciilifeform: why a tax revolt hasn't happened yet: usg has old, reliable, well-oiled mechanisms for dealing with folks who didn't pay.
decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses?
BingoBoingo under the impression USG uses drug money to fund all of its porcelain as opposed to golden toilets
asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru.
BingoBoingo suspects .ru darknet markets survive because USG figures russian drugs are russia's problem.
BingoBoingo: This surprised, I guess the small number of anons who might not be from USG's vegetable garden
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of the tor devs drawing their USG funded paychecks was an operator of one of the "Anonymous" movement twitter accounts
mats_cd03: 16:06:20 <+asciilifeform> in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked. << link?
asciilifeform: in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked.
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish usg took more of interest in raising quality rather than maximal extraction
asciilifeform: to usg, you are a resource. a head of cattle. who lets a cow go ?
decimation: if you want to 'build slowly' usg will be interested in your form 8938
decimation: asciilifeform: usg radio chatter, ready for you to listen: http://usa-satcom.com/operation-deep-freeze-2014/
asciilifeform: or in submarine, at least while usg undersea stationary sonar arrays function.
asciilifeform: so, it may actually be a non-usg zone until it is repaired.
decimation: reality must intercede somewhere into usg's neat pronoucements
decimation: I believe usg military doesn't even require one chinup from females - just 'bent arm hang'
decimation: in the us, the usg takes that kind of thing very seriously
asciilifeform: only reason usg still bothers with juries, is that they can generally be relied on to play ball, and this state of affairs is reasonably simple to maintain.
jurov: just because it was so idiotic it crashed without inflictiong so much damage as usg did/does
asciilifeform: jurov: and realize that the blowback from present-day usg idiocy will make lenin et. al. look reasonable and gentle. see earlier thread re: isis.
ben_vulpes: "requires you to get health coverage by the end of the open enrollment period on February 15. If you don’t, this year you’ll have to pay a penalty of $325 per adult or 2 percent of your household income -- whichever is higher." << death of self insurance in the usg
asciilifeform: usg/nato to ru: 'stop running your nose into my fist!'
asciilifeform: roach extermination will not stop (unless usg somehow rids itself of mr p)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's put it this way - the arab lands burn, and we know the arsonist - usg. who can say that arsonist is not still in control?
mircea_popescu: the usg is as related to this as the fly on the radiator related to the car crash.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far usg is keeping these folks intensely interested in clitori butterfly collections and not the least bit in higher mathematics, without apparently breaking a sweat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iran - 'tried shit.' i would need serious evidence of pig flight before believing that fundamentalist clerical revolutions are anything other than usg 'yi yi zhi yi' methods.
asciilifeform: undata: for 'everyday engineering' definition of 'get away' - sure. who, exactly, lives in usa that usg cannot kill 'with impunity' ?
mircea_popescu: and the usg wins anwyay, for the exact reason spam works : those five people were tied up for the five minutes they took to write and the however many it took them to consider all the angles.
mircea_popescu: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/595 << meanwhile mitre (which is very much a usg-thing) is coming out with a "you know they don't really need to work because they're special kids".
decimation: this idea could also explain why debt-funding (usg bank style) is ruinous compared to capital-funding in the long run
asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
asciilifeform: at any rate, the reason there is not a pandaemonium of attempted republikflucht from usa, and corresponding whack-a-mole game by usg, is very simple -
decimation: probably many of these 'black boxes' were developed by 'startups' funded by usg tax dollars through universities
kakobrekla: aha usg stoped making plutonium 238 in 1988, they just ordered it from russia
decimation: asciilifeform: re: medium << usg had a point, now encryption is 'available'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-09-26/?msg=22344014&page=1 << fascinating smoke&mirrors job. these jokers do their best to make 'remote attestation' sound appealing, and obscure the actual raison d'etre of the tech (boobytrap in your own silicon against you, owner, in any and all cases) by spinning it as 'forbidden by usg'
asciilifeform: #bitcoin-wizards << lol! usg has own #b-a now! 'with hookers, and blackjack!'
asciilifeform: jihad - yes; jihad (TM) - usg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jihad long predates the invention of america, let alone the creation of the usg.
asciilifeform: jihadis >> http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2005/kermit-visits-doctor.jpg << creatures of usg
decimation: asciilifeform: http://countersignal.tumblr.com/post/102817028423/i-keep-telling-people-to-look-at-where-things-come << I didn't realize that usg/nato were responsible for 'cultural marxism'
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
assbot: The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY84AU )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski btw, next time someone goes on the "marketing Bitcoin" kick, you can always use http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ : "Get lost and don’t come back until you can either think or do something useful. Contrary to what you might have self-aggrandizingly imagined, we don’t want you. Yo
mircea_popescu: Bids that are contingent on financing terms of any kind will not be considered.<< funny what the usg thinks of its own banking industry anyway :D
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
mats_cd03: anyone keeping a running count of known USG coins?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me clear teh usg-debian believes it got the votes
decimation: well, considering usg employs 4 million people, I suspect there is at least one of each http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/historical-tables/total-government-employment-since-1962/
decimation: mircea_popescu: the simplest answer is probably because usg is full of hartmans and gmaxwells
mircea_popescu: im completely unclear as to why the fuck usg wants the "one computer system" so badly anyway.
mircea_popescu: decimation kerberos was developed by mit in the 80s. a gutted export version was created. as the usg was going to (again) change its export restriction in 2000,
mircea_popescu: perhaps an instructive case study as to how usg protocol confiscation works in the field.
decimation: I don't think any future historian will fail to notice the parallels between this and usg's way of doing business
thestringpuller: fdr's usg, but a lot more bankrupt.
decimation: this is one reason why usg is still fdr's usg (that and the fact that they and their friends razed the world in wwii)
decimation: asciilifeform: all powers to say things are reserved to the top tier of usg
decimation: asciilifeform: if 'lizard hitler' is a physical entity, he's probably not working for usg
mircea_popescu: and nobody hates it, either. the usg is widely despised, and in some quarters reviled.
asciilifeform: usg is an 'oderint, dum metuant' kinda thing.
decimation: as a gradually larger portion of the 'sane class' in the us begins to perceive usg as more of an enemy than a friend, I suspect the quality of 'chicken' will degrade further.
decimation: I'm not really sure usg even knows how to 'supply'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so it would follow that usg has a model recipe to follow.
asciilifeform: 'confidential' is the lowest level of classification in usg.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i can imagine only with great difficulty that a usg cryptologist of any actual stature (that is, creator of, or even privy to, a 'crown jewel') would be permitted to make public so much as a newspaper ad for a dog walker, much less a document pertaining to his profession.
decimation: from the senior usg Standartenführer's point of view, the polygraph is an ideal device to filter the workforce into compliant sheep and stone cold thugs
decimation: from the senior usg 'stendartendfurher's
decimation: mircea_popescu: maybe if they are short polygraphers usg asks some local scientologists to sub in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is a standard usg 'lie detector.' << the funny thing is, i dunno if the scientologists copied the ohmmeter after the usg "lie detector", or vice-versa, the fbi is tring to find yout tethans
asciilifeform: if you come across one, know that usg mandates disk sanitation pre-surplus, but no such law is enforced on contractors...
decimation: I know that there are many scavengers who survive on reselling usg surplus
decimation: imagine the mind of the 'interviewee': surely usg wouldn't spend bezzlars on those fine knobs if this wasn't serious business
decimation: asciilifeform: you could probably get grant money from usg if you were a scamademic
asciilifeform: this is a standard usg 'lie detector.'
decimation: apparently usg agents are zealously evangelizing their 'secret' polygraph faith around the world
decimation: asciilifeform: it would be more honest if usg made its agents walk on coals and swear secret loyalty to the civil service - it would be much more honest and straighforward