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deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up gabriel_laddel
Framedragger: i still don't understand how much of a browser replacement it is. interesting, tho. what does gabriel_laddel mean, "can gmail"? => can javascript?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so how about you hop in a plane and bring me a coupla ? i'll buy you a steak even! ☟︎
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: nice.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so it actually is ho-level complete replacement of ipad whatever, they can do on your item whatever they do, snapchat, whatsapp, whatever ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so basically you can make lisp machines i can give out to hos ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: your 'irc server' deals in what, stream of characters ? of bytes ?
trinque: gabriel_laddel: I cannot corroborate your experience
asciilifeform: it is as if i asked 'how does your proposed replacement for tetracycline work' and gabriel_laddel answered 'tetraethyl lead in my 100 octane avgas prevents engine knock'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: in what sense is this ' tsmr~ web ' ??
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel is this cl-fpt an apache replacement then ?
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: you're going to have to give "web can now be a thing" a bit more detail
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: !!up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: !~later tell gabriel_laddel so the thing is - you have to rewrite this. there's a lot of very powerful ideas struggling in the mire of very poor (and often rushed) writing. there's no way out, i can't rewrite it for you. while it's starting to emerge into sense it's not yet at the level of development where it can be productively engaged. take but one simple example : "$computation against $uri validate videos were watched".
asciilifeform: not even a stab at gabriel_laddel, but at current hardware drought.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:45 gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560440 < 2.5k usd. Per month, until I bitched about it and it was knocked down to $600/mo - anyways, it isn't about the money, it's about him doing absolutely nothing with it and making a mess that someone will have to clean up.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:33 gabriel_laddel: When my life is less shit I'll be setting up a method by which in-WOT people can get it for free. You all, of course, will be able to sell the same product I am.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell gabriel_laddel this thing is long, ima read it later today.
phf: !~later tell gabriel_laddel fyi a handy hack for doing binary patching of deployed lisp images http://www.nicklevine.org/play/patching-made-easy.html i used a variation of that back when i was doing lisp consulting
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:48 gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560716 < it may be that CLIM itself sucks -- but the implementation is 100% common lisp and is easy enough to mechanically alter if you have problems with it. Should tmsr~ decide to strip whatever features from CLIM and alter the spec, at least we have a codebase and spec to argue about and something working to us
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:40 phf: gabriel_laddel: i wasn't thinking of selling your product, but i wouldn't mind trying to do the deployment on a own hardware
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:32 gabriel_laddel: trinque: I'm just selling them by hand at the moment in the bay area (going to google for a scheme meetup to hawk product here in ~.5 hrs)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:34 gabriel_laddel: I've been charging $200 on top of the price of hardware, but as of today (and an extended navigator that indexes all symbols and their types) - 300
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:30 gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560469 < would you mind reviewing arsttep? I'm shipping it with each machine as part of the manual and would like for others to be able to understand it.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:48 gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560716 < it may be that CLIM itself sucks -- but the implementation is 100% common lisp and is easy enough to mechanically alter if you have problems with it. Should tmsr~ decide to strip whatever features from CLIM and alter the spec, at least we have a codebase and spec to argue about and something working to us
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: !!up gabriel_laddel
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 02:49 asciilifeform: and over what did gabriel_laddel and this d00d quibble over, what was it, < 1k usd ?!
phf: gabriel_laddel: i wasn't thinking of selling your product, but i wouldn't mind trying to do the deployment on a own hardware ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 03:33 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560415 << lol, I'm under the impression that gabriel_laddel trolls logs for highlights with a script, or would've provided better context
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !!up gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: didja bring trinque a vpatch, gabriel_laddel ?
ben_vulpes: !up gabriel_laddel
phf: !~later tell gabriel_laddel have you considered putting ~everything~ masamune into a single tree, prepatched, so that instead of "load X, then load my patch-foo-for-X" you just have everything under single hierarchy exactly the way you expect it to run in production?
trinque: gabriel_laddel can tell me when I can rewrite all my elisp in CL
mircea_popescu: !~later tell gabriel_laddel it's grueling not gruling
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560415 << lol, I'm under the impression that gabriel_laddel trolls logs for highlights with a script, or would've provided better context ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and over what did gabriel_laddel and this d00d quibble over, what was it, < 1k usd ?! ☟︎
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up gabriel_laddel
trinque: !~later tell gabriel_laddel ^
scriba: Logged on 2016-10-19: [23:36:04] <gabriel_laddel> Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again?
scriba: Logged on 2016-10-19: [23:36:04] <gabriel_laddel> Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:10 gabriel_laddel: This, when they already had a complete clim implementation.
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again? << cut the antenna wires with a pair of Kleins or Dykes?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not telling him what to do either; i sometimes rant alongside asciilifeform, but i don't actually think gabriel_laddel should be doing something differently.
phf: gabriel_laddel: franz have been living in frontline foxholes since before you knew what a computer was, i don't think masamune is there yet to judge their methods
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel prolly best to have both your own logger and a 2nd backup. redundancy ftw.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: any idea how many client contracts they survive on?
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you explored clim2? i'm curious what state it's in. i want to at least try and spin it up on ACL to see how bit rotted it is, what it looks like, etc. i vaguely suspect it might be better clim baseline than mcclim
trinque: gabriel_laddel: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/
trinque: gabriel_laddel: offended by postgresql?
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !!up gabriel_laddel
diana_coman: will have a look gabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you make a new pgp key, i will rate you
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: trinque rated gabriel_laddel 1 << mega-helpful clim-splainer
trinque: !!rate gabriel_laddel 1 mega-helpful clim-splainer
trinque: I encounter asciilifeform, phf, or gabriel_laddel tracks semi-frequently :P
jurov: gabriel_laddel on steroids, i guess.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: ahoy!
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Perhaps set up a Climsten bot to ping yourself?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel could possibly just set up a dinger
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
trinque chants clim, clim, clim, in the hopes that gabriel_laddel shall appear
a111: 3092 results for "from:gabriel_laddel", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Agabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: !#s from:gabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in point of fact, gabriel_laddel asked.
trinque: since gabriel_laddel reads logs, the point was, if you're building atop linux, better actually know linux
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it is a very very short list.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
trinque: gabriel_laddel: it does not reproduce the hardware!
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: which you make with own hands, out of mineral ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: they trivially, six time before breakfast, make it ~impossible to reproduce your comp
trinque: gabriel_laddel: I called *your* thing an emacs, figuratively. It is "chinatown", place within a place.
asciilifeform: which the next gabriel_laddel tries to abstract against.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: and then we are stuck with the pile of hack.
asciilifeform: if gabriel_laddel does not care to listen to asciilifeform's observation, it is strictly his own problem. but here it is, for phreeeeee: you cannot abstract against broken software, with other software. or at all.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel dun mind the esteemed lords, they just hate young men for the obvious reason.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: didja sell enough to buy a postbox yet ?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [16:25:37] <gabriel_laddel> It is a revolt against G-d and all that is good and true that there does not exist a platform, even on UNIX that one can buy for lisp development.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you think such a thing is remotely a good idea, and that the crud will not irreparably spill out from under the 'skin', i got a bridge to sell ya.
phf: well, gabriel_laddel doesn't have the patience to grok the system he's hosting on from the user perspective, how's he going to upkeep it from the dev perspective?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you get tired of having to toggle the nic to autocrossover, get out a pair of scissors and make an actual crossover snake
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel ironically, turns out trinque did have a point eh.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: no voodoo here, to turn on the autocrossover you gotta reset the nic. but on sane os this DOES NOT REQUIRE REBOOT omgwtf
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [16:18:08] <gabriel_laddel> just a minute, have rebooted both machines.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: 110-r9