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mircea_popescu: so badly managed, teh usg.

decimation: qualcomm is also fairly famous for hustling usg into favoring their CDMA chips over the european gsm alternative

mircea_popescu: while i expect your 90% figure of ee's working for govt is only met if you actually count every us public company as an agency of the usg (a position not exactly undefensible, people still do the same to stuff like gazprom etc, notwithstanding the ru oligarchs actually have a lot more independence than the us "ceo"s of public corps),

decimation: but I was insinuating that these EE's work either has official usg employees or sell products or labor directly to usg

funkenstein_: well if you got some usd in your pocket... i guess you could say you work for the usg

decimation: I would venture to guess that 90% of those remaining 271,000 work directly or indirectly for usg

mircea_popescu: but of intel for intel's own sake, as an independent thing. not of intel for usg-intel, something intel itself could never, ever fix.

mircea_popescu: in fairness, i suppose the burning hatred of usg and its many agencies (such as apple) that informs us is really a very novel thing.

asciilifeform: usg must be assumed to lie unless there is actual reason to suspect it may have told the truth

mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what the usg says, even.

mircea_popescu: it's kinda incredible to me that the entire intellectual production of the usg crowd is limited to merely rehashing points debunked within a week or two of the "controversy".

decimation: ben_vulpes, asciilifeform: http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/iasa/ < usg says that ar civil aviation bureaucracy is rated "1"

decimation: noisy chump falls into the noisy usg chumpatron, news at 11

danielpbarron is still skeptical that there is any demand for USGavincoin

asciilifeform: in usg airport

asciilifeform: davout: the laptop thing is becoming standard in most of the usg world

mircea_popescu: basically the usg is about 15 and has grown up on a gated community. in connecticut.

Adlai: even if you think both of those are tentacles of the same octopusg, they do have independent nervous systems

asciilifeform: re: post office idiocy: i fully expect that before the era of usg is over, 'serenissima' cargo will routinely travel with real-time ir camera (and 'glonass') feed from inside the box.

mircea_popescu: when usg says something, it becomes allegedly, and until and unless it receives our imprimatur, it STAYS allegedly.

mircea_popescu: and this is why "apparently" is not more appropriate. the locus of power is b-a, not usg. when we say something here, fact or no fact, it becomes "apparently", like it or not like it.

danielpbarron: (unless you balance it out with 9x non-promotional material) << there is a ratio specified in the rules?? reddit is like USG training camp

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i'm rather surprised it took them so long to hook up the goldpricedumpatron to btc << You once said, "USG is still trying to find way to put lead into bitcoin bars."

decimation: mircea_popescu: it's common in the us for a usg employee to regard himself as 'apolitical' because he wasn't elected

asciilifeform: phun phakt: usg really did come out with a 'standard' cpu!

decimation: yet he has given his life and his own son in service of usg, and accomplished nothing

decimation: he is now on a krazy korner railing against usg

mircea_popescu: and you know exactly how it'll go : the usg horde will derp their derpage, most idiots of the jwz ilk will "not want to pick the political bone" and so on and so forth.

ascii_field: when usg officials start vanishing from the stage because no longer can pay bills, rather than folks like moiety disappearing from our ranks - then we know, yes, victory

ascii_field: 116mil 'mystery startup' << expect to see $maxint of this. usg will build malicious 'wallets' and other mainstreamadoptatron crap for all-comers

asciilifeform: caveat is that the ancient truce whereby usg would not openly fuck with a church - no longer really holds

asciilifeform: wasn't speaking, note, of whether usians will smoke weed mostly without harassment (they already have for years) - but of whether fed usg specifically will let go of the bludgeon

assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:25:57; asciilifeform: when has usg legalized anything formerly forbidden ?

mircea_popescu: anyway. so teh usg-vc-turdatron is "building prediction markets" and usgavin is "building consensus" among the "core developers" of a meanwhile obsoleted branch of bitcoin core.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047863 << the only one that solved the problem the usg backed "teams" are "working towards" i would presume without reading. ☝︎

asciilifeform: usg assets don't surrender, they keep doing their thing until the stool is kicked and the rope goes taught. or how did it go.

mircea_popescu: "i'm going to pretend like if i find five people that can be bribed, scared or fooled then that's all that was needed to begin with. just, the usg is so ridiculous, toothless and impotent I CANT EVEN SAY WHO THE FUCK THE FIVE WILL BE. hopefully we even find five idiots, or else... whatever, three's enough. one's me, one's me dressed as satoshi, one's me in my wife's panties. win!"

asciilifeform: eventually a 'multicopter' (perhaps usg provocateur-piloted) will be used in some loud, public vandalism (graffiti of $landmark or wtf) and it'll be 'reichstag fire'

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course, but maybe it might make sense USG-ified on a boat

asciilifeform: what will almost certainly be usg-banned quite soon - and banned the way chemistry as a class was, rather than as specific types of small arm were - is flying machines

asciilifeform: usg could and did put down rebellion even in the era when arbitrary hardware was permitted to whoever could afford it

asciilifeform: trinque: it isn't like one could cut through a phalanx of usg stormtroopers and stay legally in the clear simply because the machine is not banned per se

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg-sponsored ($maxint) laser shenanigans traditionally involve chemical (that is, single-shot) machines

BingoBoingo: At the moment I imagine there is no explict ban because USG wants to see what Boeing might buy for them off of a sufficiently advanced crackpot while it is still safe to assume such things are minimally portable.

asciilifeform: when has usg legalized anything formerly forbidden ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reprieve << ahaha lol no. it's the usual 'we'll slip it up your arse later when brouhaha is over and nobody's paying attention' usg business.

ascii_field: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/us/secede-republic-claims-texas-never-joined-us.html << idiots who still imagine that a legalistic pill against usg exists. as described in mircea_popescu's 'sovereign citizens' article.

asciilifeform: lol re: usg spending $maxint to extract apple symmetric key from cpu

mircea_popescu: these are 2nd degree. then the town he lives in goes to shit, because no servants can be found, so smart people leave and usg moves in.

mircea_popescu: mike_c see, the way i've observed this to work is like this : 1) usg makes imbecile law ; 2) society is aghast ; 3) teenaged muppets make bold claim that jives with societal expectation, blatantly in contradiction with usg policy.

assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:31:55; mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.

ascii_field: 'you were a usg academic? hope you like picking fruit.'

ascii_field: surprised that usg hasn't funded them yet.

ascii_field: it'll be narrowed so that usg has the only effective exploitatron for it, yes.

ascii_field: even paraded by usg muppets in the state-controlled media as 't3rr0r1s7 f1n4nc3!!!111!!1111'

mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron. ☟︎

ascii_field: unlike the linked usg honeypot.

danielpbarron: I interacted with Jillian C. York in January 2012 about how twitter was filtering tweets about Jesus from the "top tweet" search (saw her name in that article about USG funded "internet privacy") >> https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/155721935785959424

mircea_popescu: "no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing." <<< lol wait, wut ? da usg stoolie programme ?

decimation: mircea_popescu: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm " When she first recorded a deer eating nestlings, she wondered if they would eat eggs, too. She incorporated the help of a captive deer at the research center to find out. "We presented it [captive deer] with a few quail eggs -- just to see what it would do -- and it munched them right up."

pete_dushenski: usg'ers !

decimation: well, when you are trading on the wholly-owned 'usd-coin' platform, it's easy to be scared when usg decides to tinker with various model parameters mid-flight

pete_dushenski: they're usg through and through

asciilifeform: jurisdiction limits don't confuse americans at all in application to -other- (vassal or non-usg jurisdiction) places

asciilifeform: (vs the usg fiction)

mircea_popescu: heh gotta love the "usg could do shit" muppetry on qntra.

decimation: so at 20% rate, usg pays $3.6 trillion in interest per year. current annual tax revenue is $3.1 trillion

decimation: not only will usg be paying all of its tax revenue to debtors, the fed's $4.5 trillion worth of 3% mortgages won't look so good

decimation: the problem is, if you raise rates to the 18% per annum that real estate prices in new york imply, you quickly find that usg is paying all its tax to debtors

decimation: all this is because usg released a report that said that 30k more people 'have jobs' and wages were flat

assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:25:02; asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich'

asciilifeform: if two dukedoms over someone makes clitoris stu, expect nobody to care << the whole notion that someone must care, is a bizarre creation of the patients in usg asylum

mircea_popescu: it's not magically sprung up by the end. expect a good half of usg to just lay down and die, just like that.

asciilifeform: usg doesn't need 'the land' (again ru-1917 thinking pattern) for much. only the gas wells, etc., industry, fields, slaves

asciilifeform: (most likely whatever the largest and nearest usg fragment is)

asciilifeform: was, iirc, designed specially for usg

asciilifeform: iirc most of the famous stockpile is '.40', a caliber unpopular outside of usg afaik

mircea_popescu: usg survival plan once shtf ? "well...we got the largest stores of ammo of anyone...so..."

mircea_popescu: btw, anyone put together the "usg will target ammunition rather than small arms" with the "various agencies bought and stored millions of rounds at the beginning of this decade" to come to a "usg will ban ammunition period" thing yet ?

asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich' ☟︎

asciilifeform: jurov: the loose set of all banks that play ball with usg, all locales where there isn't an icbm battery between you and usg, etc

assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 17:54:22; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it was clear to anyone who gives a fuck that usg would target ammunition, rather than small arms per se, when it 'gets serious'

mircea_popescu: at its core, the "optimal retrospective investment" problem is a nude and rude proposition to replace the action imperative ("mouse must escape or die in the act of trying") with an imaginary junk. ("it could have been"). this is not substantially different from what the usg does when it invents a new name for the homeless and pretends to have "resolved the problem".

pete_dushenski: and since osama is basically the usg's religious messiah, come to save it from internal destruction by providing an external enemy, why not make a whole church service around him

ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ? << a good reason to use usg mailservers and own your keys

mircea_popescu: anyway, the onus is not on observers to explain the usg. the usg made some claims, which were in due time proven false.

asciilifeform: modern usg has many advantages in bullshit production over predecessors

mircea_popescu: "USG - Army Of One, And They're All Retarded"

mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't know there exists material more intellectually objectionable than the shit pouring out of the usg.

asciilifeform: if somebody wants to dig up the warning from 1920s (mentioned briefly in the modern usg one) would be interesting to read.

thestringpuller: winning bidder says, "Oh i received coins." with gun at head in background from USG suit and tie

mircea_popescu: no better time to turn usg agents into camwhores.

decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/how-a-25-year-old-investor-spurred-lumber-liquidators-plunge < apparently the new investing hotness is to short a company and then throw it into the usg woodchipper

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's alive for the purpose of usg stooges being able to 'talk about bitcoin' without mentioning #b-a ever

BingoBoingo wonders why USG won't consider cost effective ISIS solutions

decimation: BingoBoingo: this is roughly why usg is still in business

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last i checked usg will enlist just about anyone under fifty or so

decimation: well, morgan and his other monopoly friends thought they could 'endow' their bailout wealth to usg via the federal reserve

mircea_popescu: the buffett-rich, the people who are not merely willing to go on the record stating "i am representative of richness, i couldn't exist outside of usg, therefore usg is EVERYTHING", but actually believe it.

decimation: asciilifeform: pounding a wedge between usg and its ability print bezzlars is the proper route of resistance