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assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 06:08:33; ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then again, pirates invented the "honor among thieves" thing which is what we're fundamentally continuating here. "how could there be rule of law otuside of usg ?!?!" "same way there was rule of law in the fucking bahamas"
ascii_field: -avoid all usg crypto standards- - yes
ascii_field: mats: your phrase 'avoid all crypto standards' is very much -not- the inevitable implication of dismissing usg crapolade
asciilifeform: oh and mats, forgot to ask: why have you forgotten about the massive (iirc, 10-20 mil) usg bribe to rsa?
asciilifeform: if the paperwork is missing - it isn't like we have all the usg archives on display!
asciilifeform: which is to say, folks who are acting in the interests of usg but do not consciously know it
asciilifeform: all you have to go on, when answering the question 'usg stooge or not' is - 'by their fruits you will know them'
asciilifeform: thing is, there are not so many good opportunities for crafted vulns, and the usg folks know it. hence they try to cultivate an overall maggoty flavour in software culture at large
asciilifeform: from anywhere in the usg empire.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way the machines are typically used is that usg knows precisely where the truck will be
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Or the golden toilets at the local USG garisons erode
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. people who meet us armed forces socially and people who are willing to write USG SATAN in 5yo guts, provided the 5yo was spawned by a private first class have virtually no overlap.
mircea_popescu: "sorry to tell you sir, you have cancer" "you know who i am ? i am the usg czar for rounded corners" "oh, in that case...umm... it's a skin condition. put some aloe on it."
ascii_modem: except hollywood and 'intellectual property' racket in general is core usg
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065420 << he's not a cunt, he's a typical usg bureaucrat.
mircea_popescu: i'm personally waiting for the credit suisse article about the loss of confidence in swiss banks as a result of them selling out their customers to usg & friends.
mircea_popescu: because whatever, i'm going to hang them anyway, and usg isn't going to hang them no matter what, so that leaves a space in the middle.
mircea_popescu: which pretty much brings us to 2014, when the thing became too expensive to be useful, so it had to run out of usg jurisdiction (went to uk)
ascii_field: jurov: it's one small step to usg prosecuting folks making hardware that doesn't obey magic bit
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants... ☟︎
asciilifeform: it will get $maxint in usg payola.
decimation: usg was not amused
asciilifeform: thing is, there are multiple overlapping fields of fire re: usg vs exchanges. e.g., banks monitor -all- incoming and outgoing flow
asciilifeform: to make a non-usg exchange in usa
decimation: moldbug thought the us would jail exchanges/possessors, but usg lost the initiative on that one
asciilifeform: as i understand, operating with the 'monetary system as storage battery' model (mr mold's ?) usg has two possible (non-exclusive) agendas re: btc: 1) steal charge from the battery 2) blow up the battery
decimation: I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket
asciilifeform: the actual purpose of every usg mil engagement since korea
decimation: asciilifeform: but then usg is stuck with backing dollars with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: but notice that the people who do not suffer from that famous " pathologically difficult attitude toward various important software development philosophy " will not have much problems using usg-nodes anyway
asciilifeform: it is worth asking what usg would be trying to accomplish with fedcoin
decimation: usg could just arrest/seize/forfeit nodes it doesn't like
mircea_popescu: there's a reason usgavin & co pretend like nodes are not important while trying to make them not feasible.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like a usg-run laundromat.
mircea_popescu: in this view of Bitcoin, only Draper has any, or whoever bought it from USG. ☟︎
asciilifeform: usg will readily dispute this claiming they actually DO have title to bitcoin they confiscate << guaranteed.
decimation: re: it's more the principle of the matter. japan wants to assert that japan, and not usg, make japan policy
decimation: when did the crazy fur nazis start making usg border policy?
mircea_popescu: (the usg will readily dispute this claiming they actually DO have title to bitcoin they confiscate, and then create chain of title from there. this argument is illogical).
decimation: outflanking usg from the left is a common pattern worldwide
decimation: asciilifeform: I know that the german chemical industry was also generally transported to usg
pete_dushenski: hm well alexandria may have been replaceable/rediscoverable, but if nazi work goes down with usg, how long do we wait ?
asciilifeform: trinque: amd is not 'angelic', it is simply behind the usg schedule because, elementary, smaller market share
danielpbarron: or uh.. USG guy joins IRC and identifies himself as such
danielpbarron: USG asking MPEx if so-and-so is a customer?
mircea_popescu: but this is exactly it, usg trying to insert itself into the process by "blessing bitcoins"
asciilifeform: perhaps usg sent the cannon fodder to die
mircea_popescu: generally, any friend of the usg is an enemy of the world.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> idea is that they 'have the choice to surrender to usg' and didn't make it << myeah. they gotta be supported.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, the usg doesn't like it. how surprising.
asciilifeform: lol 'giving up' when isp (and credit card co) pipe it to usg in milliseconds when subscriber pays
decimation: yeah I guess that's the idea, but it seems dubious that usg will tolerate such behavior
asciilifeform: idea is that they 'have the choice to surrender to usg' and didn't make it
decimation: apparently tucows is on usg's shitlist because it won't play ball
asciilifeform: verizomcast is doomed to play 'bad cop' to the 'good cop' of usgnet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i remember correctly, usg is on record saying they lack the ability to input a printed gpg privkey.
asciilifeform: well there, certainly. but i'd argue that usg implicitly takes ownership of the wild things here
mircea_popescu: cisco was caught working with usg, lost 90% of sales in onequarter.
mircea_popescu: and some other day, usg.
mircea_popescu: the plan is of course to use it extensively on anyone related to usg, starting with the press, starting with idiot whores a la leah goodman and idiot venues a la newsweek
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 00:58:04; asciilifeform: possibly the most dangerous animal to be in the lands of usg (and au, as i understand, is a kind of target practice range for usg idiocies) is the fella with just enough to be worth skinning, but three or four zeroes short of mircea_popescu-esque atomic dirigible where he can hit back
asciilifeform: usg pours $maxint into optical logic, but nothing is publicly known re: what, if anything, ever came of it
mircea_popescu: "Progress in computer hardware has followed an amazingly steady curve in the last few decades [17]." << by now moore';s law is currency in trading for everyine, from usgavin to vince whoever.
asciilifeform: 'consensus' is a beloved usg-ism >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-11-2014#926290 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not my fault usg is into necrophillia.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: if the usg charlatans want to create a fork with incompatible tx validation rules, they are welcome to.
asciilifeform: possibly the most dangerous animal to be in the lands of usg (and au, as i understand, is a kind of target practice range for usg idiocies) is the fella with just enough to be worth skinning, but three or four zeroes short of mircea_popescu-esque atomic dirigible where he can hit back ☟︎
ascii_field: chetty: there is a confounding factor: that much of su was bought up at fire-sale by usg operatives
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the only reason we know about him is the gigantic crew of usg photographers and a usg planetary mediachumatron ready to endlessly reprint the photo
ascii_field: my model is more of a hypothesis re: what tools usg will pick up when the usual ones (magick away the universe with idiot media tricks) begin to fail
ascii_field: used here as illustration that the imminent demise of usg and the broader zombie civilization that created it, does not separate ulbricht's arse from anthill
mircea_popescu: people mostly don't believe the usg statements in the case of ulbricht. what when they're actually made up ?
ascii_field: see, the rectoanalyzer will not be used by conventional 'daylight' usg, no
mircea_popescu: every anything you propose costs the usg way more than it costs you.
mircea_popescu: your ideas work in this situation where the usg is "the universe" and the guy it torments just a guy.
mircea_popescu: ie, the same usg that gets killed with the weapons it made and gave away.
ascii_field: same folks who make the rest of the usg toybox
ascii_field: i won't pontificate on whether the past century of usg work on tortures, dope, etc. came to anything, but this is more or less the kind of situation it was all ultimately waiting for, to try.
ben_vulpes: i'm kind of horrified at the notion that aws will outlive the usg.
asciilifeform: in the usg sense
mircea_popescu: strange that anyone would even for a single second propose the usg even exists as a going concern,
decimation: usg is all about illusioning every problem away
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/public_access/ < apparently usg will require some level of public access to usg-funded research papers
asciilifeform: mats: on top of that is the mega-lol where winblows uac is the only usg-blessed 'security boundary' mechanism...
asciilifeform: 'sympathy', 'support', esp. of the usg-sponsored very tangible/financial variety is on tap, no questions asked. imagine if insurance worked this way - how many houses would still remain standing ?
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.gmu.edu/~zduric/cs803/Simmons.pdf << unrelated but interesting from historical standpoint re: usg and practical use of rsa
BingoBoingo: decimation> usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine << Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the cartels innovated that themselves
decimation: usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine
mircea_popescu: nobody has so far taken a strong "fuck you, and red hat, and the usg" stance. it is likely they never will,
ascii_field: one of the greatest films about essence of usg
ascii_field: but as i gather, the usg-elite consciously walks this line - unlimited debauchery in private, idiot paper-pushing in public
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it is not a secret to anyone except the completely imbecile "experts" the usg has historically and continues to "use" in it's quest to build itself as a bitcoin power independent from mpex.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rage-of-cultural-elites.html << (guest article) mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rage-of-cultural-elites.html << [guest article] mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
mircea_popescu: epic. the usg, inflating EVERYTHING.
asciilifeform: obvious usg altcoin is obvious
asciilifeform: decimation: barring some quite perverse retroactive usg shenanigans (never say 'never.' it happened in ru) gpl stuff is staying gpl
mircea_popescu: exactly what it is. backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the usg, in the shape of little bits of paper issued by Department of Harvard, The Stanford Agency scl etc.
decimation: nasa et.al. spend money on usg think tanks to try to come up with a protocol that will magically switch between store-and-forward and low-latency as the channel permits