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asciilifeform: if there is evidence of usg crafting functioning but diddled parts for a mass-produced machine, slipping'em in, etc. prior to this cribbing, i for one do not know of it
asciilifeform: the typewriter case is interesting, from a history of usg point of view, because it appears to be the turning point for nsa
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: our usg readers may have some trouble with arithmetic, let's help'em
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps usg is desperate for china to become big enough so that usg can surrender to it
decimation: asciilifeform: it kind of surprised me that usg allowed ibm to sell their fab actually
asciilifeform: decimation: there was a scandal that broke not long ago, where it came out that usg is single-handedly keeping a number of fabs (mostly rad-hard stuff) in business
decimation: asciilifeform: the only possibility is that usg is buying vanity products
thestringpuller: can't wait to read on qntra one day: "Gavin Admits to Being USG Agent, Leaves Bitcoin Forever"
asciilifeform: FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' << astroturf and misdirection. regardless of which branch of usg is at the helm (fcc or verizon) - the train will still end up at the same stop: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: hmm, musta been diff boxer. << Twas Tyson, USG bankruptcy laws... pretty hard not to use them. It is what got Trump rich
asciilifeform: there's no usg wot tho << closest thing to a format usg wot may be the infamous 'plum book'
mircea_popescu: there's no usg wot tho, is the problem.
decimation: mircea_popescu: even judges want to feel like they are in the usg wot
mircea_popescu: "i bet you mp wouldn't say the USG gets to make classified filings"
asciilifeform: and as far as 'man on the street' in usa is concerned - the opposite of usg is 'mad max'.
asciilifeform: thing is, unlike soviet 'line', usg does not have a universally (or even widely) subscribed to opposite.
decimation: yeah, they are closest to the money that spews forth from usg
asciilifeform: -this- is where the usg budget actually goes.
decimation: someone has to 'provide' the muscle, buildings, etc in all those third world countries usg mucks with
decimation: lobbyists, lawyers, contractors who 'bill' usg for their services
decimation: asciilifeform: yes but most of those 'usg employees' are not actually on the official payroll
asciilifeform: at this point, virtually anyone living like 'upper middle class' and above in usa, is usg spending personified
asciilifeform: if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example
asciilifeform: but it would be grand to see old 'movers and shakers' of usg row until the end of their days.
decimation: actually the carriers and the entire dod welfare parade is only about 17% of the total usg spending
asciilifeform isn't usg vizier, isn't paid to plan
asciilifeform: usg - has plenty.
decimation: asciilifeform: what does usg have to compel a trade?
asciilifeform: so usg will move to straight command economy.
decimation: well, china is actually a fairly small owner of usg debt
decimation: now, the problem that usg has is that in 30 years, they might not be able to pay for missiles or soldiers
decimation: I don't think china has the balls to start a missile war with usg
decimation: hilariously, the actual hawaiian islands are 100% dependent on usg military, etc for income
asciilifeform: for folks unfamiliar with esr, he has always been an unabashed barnacle who clung to whatever he saw as 'winning' at the moment. so usg did not have to break his kneecaps. he knew exactly when to bend over and lube up.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can only conclude that he is an apple/usg shill.
mircea_popescu: sort of bullshit. whenever you run into it you can be pretty sure you've run into an usg nest, it's like the fox scent and the fox.
asciilifeform: at any rate, usg is winning there - in its traditional objective of creating an open, gangrenous wound (rather than 'winning' in the usual sense of the word)
asciilifeform: per orlov's analysis, kiev is summoning draftees not to fight and win, but to 1) create 'humanitarian' wank in the hope of usg assistance (georgia gambit) 2) forcibly burn bridges for the conscripted men (the idea being, they've fired on the east and 'must' fight to the death)
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah he definitely exhibited that pattern. but my priors tend to 'random derp (maybe mr spam)' rather than 'usg agent'
decimation: asciilifeform: how do you distinguish between 'usg agent' and 'derp who reads your website'?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Perhaps, but it would be very un-USG of the era to not be running trials in parallel with minimal disclosure
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, much of the meth toxixity literature is from 1940's and 1950's when it was prefered USG go pill before being replaced by gentler amphetamines
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if lizardhitler picked the currently usg-'blessed' varieties of dope to zap folks prior to reproductive age, he needs to fire his chemist
asciilifeform: i.e. the 'before and after' faces found in various usg propaganda depict people who not only took $dopeoftheday but were perpetually pickled, smoked everything and anything that burns, contracted every known vd, etc.
mircea_popescu: well, so you can have them post-usg
asciilifeform: as an experiment, i spoke to dave schmidt (actual person, went to his house, bought an ancient machine.) pleasant old man. and asked re: buying docs. he claimed that he was not at liberty to sell, at any price, due to pacts with usg.
asciilifeform: i happen to know with fair degree of certainty that the number one buyer of 'ida' is usg.
asciilifeform: usg limbo
asciilifeform: as a usg appendage, it is for the furnace.
asciilifeform: it's a genuine monopoly, vs. usg derpopoly. as in, there is literally nothing that is fit to so much as lick the product's boots
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to this day there are rumours that the food was 'hidden somewhere' by usg stooges to cause shortages.
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: Do you have proof that Gavin and some USG mole is trying to implement some attack on bitcoin? What has made you come to this conclusion?
mircea_popescu: unrelated to all of this, a usg mole is proposing to change bitcoin into something unsustainable.
asciilifeform: ebay hunting for usg surplus tech is a national sport.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't buy the malicious usg. thing is purely reactive, and only within the logic of itself.
mircea_popescu: (which incidentally makes me curious, if you get usg advance on promise to deliver and then fail to deliver, do you hjave to repay ? or go to jail ?)
asciilifeform: all that's missing is a usg-operated altcoin to go with it
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for the_scourge from 1 to -2 with note: dear usg, please send better clowns; the cheap ones are growing tiresome.
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge -2 dear usg, please send better clowns; the cheap ones are growing tiresome.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the 'open' in 'opengenera' is an archaic 1980s usg-ism. it simply refers to the fact that a product features industry-standard protocols like tcp/ip and does not require you to buy the entire universe you live in from one particular vendor.
asciilifeform: from low orbit usg junk ?
asciilifeform: because that was the previous usg monopoly.
decimation: eh, I'm not so sure. the implication of that would be that usg is extraordinarily competent
decimation: asciilifeform: yes it's actually an extraordinary admission of usg's capitulation
decimation: apparently nobody in usg gives a shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg does not care (or even encourages, see earlier 'house-buying' postdoc story) about a plebe impersonating another plebe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think this is the best proof possible that current usg does not expect to survive more than a few years into the future anyway.
decimation: or similarly, it is unthinkable that a non-usg-approved-bank would issue credit or bank
asciilifeform: (for n00bs: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 << describes, among other things, the curious fact that within usg, only specially trained gnomes are permitted the privilege of generating keys, for use by all ranks from private to president)
asciilifeform: it would be unthinkable for anyone other than usg to wipe arses, if this were practical.
decimation: but you see in the usa, it is unthinkable that usg wouldn't issue keys
decimation: asciilifeform: right, the banks don't give a shit because 1.) they generally don't get stuck with the bill and 2.) when they do, usg prints them up some bezzlars
asciilifeform: the biggest criminal, usg, makes most of it.
decimation: asciilifeform: the inevitable conclusion is that the banks/usg do not mind criminals making money off the fucktarded system
asciilifeform: usg sees this as a civil service!
decimation: they had 30 years of usg/bezzlar computers locked up and were too retarded to market it
decimation: whatever life python has left is primarily driven by usg academic types
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a little more complicated than this. just like quite a few folks who have never drawn a proper 'federal' paycheque are really members of usg, quite a few folks (tens of millions) in usa are in fact 'policemen' though they do not know it
decimation: even he gave up that prerogative in exchange for friendship with usg, that turned out to not serve him very well
mircea_popescu: <decimation> why would some four star usg general spend time to send 300 emails to some lebanese groupie chick? << i wrote like a billion lines in here. why not ?
decimation: why would some four star usg general spend time to send 300 emails to some lebanese groupie chick?
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/jill-kelley-e-mails-depict-a-striving-tampa-socialite-and-a-smitten-military-brass/2015/02/03/ef8cb06c-a800-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html?hpid=z2 << apparently being a bigshot usg general means you get to handpick 'honorary ambassadors' to serve you meals ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jurov: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-pirate-bay-is-an-fbi-honeypot << that usg agitprop runs this about tpb after a year of studiously ignoring http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ seems the best street cred for current day tpb.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (why? ask them) << usg looking for zero days as well :)
asciilifeform: re: inheritance tax crapolade: the usg elite does not bequeath/inherit via the usual mechanism, but rather by:
mircea_popescu: and i'll take any bet that feudalism as promoted by b-a will take the piss, vinegar and cockroach guts out of any alternative, startingwith the usg
asciilifeform: a leap of conjecture - modern usg began to take shape once the last folks who remembered pre-civilwar usa were gone.
asciilifeform: i can think of at least four separate incidents where usg armies loudly, publicly, beat and often fired on assemblies of veterans
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern usg << more like the birthplace of the central planning element thereof. "we affirm congress has the authority to central plan economic activity"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform door to door shakedowns are incompatible with the present day usg.
trinque: this brings to mind again my (hardly novel) thought that the usg is a shattered sovereign, rather than the absence of one
asciilifeform: which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern usg
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: the basic reason why u.s. tax is generally easy to enforce, is that most u.s. folk who have money are rich specifically in usg-controlled scrip or pseudo-realestate or the like
mircea_popescu: then, should your inheritor sell it when it's $10`000, usg wants further capital gains tax. not on 9k, but on $9990
mircea_popescu: specifically : if you bought 1k btc at $10, and you die when it's $1000, usg wants about 400`000, in usd.
the_scourge: as for it being more expensive... what a retarded thing to say. even for USG
asciilifeform: it's a usg newspeak term that encompasses not only paupers, who have no business in a bank regardless, but also folks resisting bezzle who consciously stay out of bank
asciilifeform: nubbins`: phun phact. usg, incl. all branches of military, love win-ce.
the_scourge: asciilifeform: right, that's probably a stretch too far from reality. but USG and HMT and BoE have been doing the fiat thing for a while now, and that's just one step less crazy