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BingoBoingo: At the moment I imagine there is no explict ban because USG wants to see what Boeing might buy for them off of a sufficiently advanced crackpot while it is still safe to assume such things are minimally portable.
asciilifeform: when has usg legalized anything formerly forbidden ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reprieve << ahaha lol no. it's the usual 'we'll slip it up your arse later when brouhaha is over and nobody's paying attention' usg business.
ascii_field: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/us/secede-republic-claims-texas-never-joined-us.html << idiots who still imagine that a legalistic pill against usg exists. as described in mircea_popescu's 'sovereign citizens' article.
asciilifeform: lol re: usg spending $maxint to extract apple symmetric key from cpu
mircea_popescu: these are 2nd degree. then the town he lives in goes to shit, because no servants can be found, so smart people leave and usg moves in.
mircea_popescu: mike_c see, the way i've observed this to work is like this : 1) usg makes imbecile law ; 2) society is aghast ; 3) teenaged muppets make bold claim that jives with societal expectation, blatantly in contradiction with usg policy.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:31:55; mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.
ascii_field: 'you were a usg academic? hope you like picking fruit.'
ascii_field: surprised that usg hasn't funded them yet.
ascii_field: it'll be narrowed so that usg has the only effective exploitatron for it, yes.
ascii_field: even paraded by usg muppets in the state-controlled media as 't3rr0r1s7 f1n4nc3!!!111!!1111'
mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron. ☟︎
ascii_field: unlike the linked usg honeypot.
danielpbarron: I interacted with Jillian C. York in January 2012 about how twitter was filtering tweets about Jesus from the "top tweet" search (saw her name in that article about USG funded "internet privacy") >> https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/155721935785959424
mircea_popescu: "no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing." <<< lol wait, wut ? da usg stoolie programme ?
pete_dushenski: usg'ers !
decimation: well, when you are trading on the wholly-owned 'usd-coin' platform, it's easy to be scared when usg decides to tinker with various model parameters mid-flight
pete_dushenski: they're usg through and through
asciilifeform: jurisdiction limits don't confuse americans at all in application to -other- (vassal or non-usg jurisdiction) places
asciilifeform: (vs the usg fiction)
mircea_popescu: heh gotta love the "usg could do shit" muppetry on qntra.
decimation: so at 20% rate, usg pays $3.6 trillion in interest per year. current annual tax revenue is $3.1 trillion
decimation: not only will usg be paying all of its tax revenue to debtors, the fed's $4.5 trillion worth of 3% mortgages won't look so good
decimation: the problem is, if you raise rates to the 18% per annum that real estate prices in new york imply, you quickly find that usg is paying all its tax to debtors
decimation: all this is because usg released a report that said that 30k more people 'have jobs' and wages were flat
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 21:25:02; asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich'
asciilifeform: if two dukedoms over someone makes clitoris stu, expect nobody to care << the whole notion that someone must care, is a bizarre creation of the patients in usg asylum
mircea_popescu: it's not magically sprung up by the end. expect a good half of usg to just lay down and die, just like that.
asciilifeform: usg doesn't need 'the land' (again ru-1917 thinking pattern) for much. only the gas wells, etc., industry, fields, slaves
asciilifeform: (most likely whatever the largest and nearest usg fragment is)
asciilifeform: was, iirc, designed specially for usg
asciilifeform: iirc most of the famous stockpile is '.40', a caliber unpopular outside of usg afaik
mircea_popescu: usg survival plan once shtf ? "well...we got the largest stores of ammo of anyone...so..."
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone put together the "usg will target ammunition rather than small arms" with the "various agencies bought and stored millions of rounds at the beginning of this decade" to come to a "usg will ban ammunition period" thing yet ?
asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich' ☟︎
asciilifeform: jurov: the loose set of all banks that play ball with usg, all locales where there isn't an icbm battery between you and usg, etc
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 17:54:22; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it was clear to anyone who gives a fuck that usg would target ammunition, rather than small arms per se, when it 'gets serious'
mircea_popescu: at its core, the "optimal retrospective investment" problem is a nude and rude proposition to replace the action imperative ("mouse must escape or die in the act of trying") with an imaginary junk. ("it could have been"). this is not substantially different from what the usg does when it invents a new name for the homeless and pretends to have "resolved the problem".
pete_dushenski: and since osama is basically the usg's religious messiah, come to save it from internal destruction by providing an external enemy, why not make a whole church service around him
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ? << a good reason to use usg mailservers and own your keys
mircea_popescu: anyway, the onus is not on observers to explain the usg. the usg made some claims, which were in due time proven false.
asciilifeform: modern usg has many advantages in bullshit production over predecessors
mircea_popescu: "USG - Army Of One, And They're All Retarded"
mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't know there exists material more intellectually objectionable than the shit pouring out of the usg.
asciilifeform: if somebody wants to dig up the warning from 1920s (mentioned briefly in the modern usg one) would be interesting to read.
thestringpuller: winning bidder says, "Oh i received coins." with gun at head in background from USG suit and tie
mircea_popescu: no better time to turn usg agents into camwhores.
decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/how-a-25-year-old-investor-spurred-lumber-liquidators-plunge < apparently the new investing hotness is to short a company and then throw it into the usg woodchipper
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's alive for the purpose of usg stooges being able to 'talk about bitcoin' without mentioning #b-a ever
BingoBoingo wonders why USG won't consider cost effective ISIS solutions
decimation: BingoBoingo: this is roughly why usg is still in business
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last i checked usg will enlist just about anyone under fifty or so
decimation: well, morgan and his other monopoly friends thought they could 'endow' their bailout wealth to usg via the federal reserve
mircea_popescu: the buffett-rich, the people who are not merely willing to go on the record stating "i am representative of richness, i couldn't exist outside of usg, therefore usg is EVERYTHING", but actually believe it.
decimation: asciilifeform: pounding a wedge between usg and its ability print bezzlars is the proper route of resistance
asciilifeform: usg still controls, de-facto, the factory, and can thus set price
asciilifeform: picture if usg tomorrow said 'we don't care, go buy a cannon if you want, like it's 1780 again'
decimation: asciilifeform: but I agree with your point. ultimately any resistance to usg is going to be economic
asciilifeform is an armchair general only, but doesn't see the military advantage of usg against subjects as consisting solely or even largely of superior small arms. what, rebel army won't break the law against modifying trigger of semi weapons to auto? rather, advantage of usg is same as in the time of hammurabi - soldiers are fed by the palace so they needn't 'waste' time on honest work; are resupplied so they needn't look for what
decimation: mircea_popescu: didn't you make the point about how the guns we are allowed to keep are of little threat to usg anyway?
decimation: I suspect the real reason that usg makes it difficult is because a suppressed small arm has real utility against usg
decimation: you can buy them in the us, if they are legal in your state and you submit many forms to usg
asciilifeform: one could make two or three mental leaps and suppose that his work is for getting ammo banned by usg quicker
mircea_popescu: <decimation> it's all a game of who can pass the liability to usg the most directly <<< quite.
decimation: it's all a game of who can pass the liability to usg the most directly
decimation: who nobody purchases except for usg
asciilifeform: PeterL: it's ugly as sin, and originally usg-promulgated, but that doesn't change the facts.
decimation: it's hard to say, because who can divine the intent of usg?
mircea_popescu: the usg essentially consists of this : "instead of doing anything, why not sit on your ass and ruminate the future ?"
asciilifeform: i see them as fellating usg actively, plain and simple
mircea_popescu: puts every single usg drone in a very uncomfortable position.
mircea_popescu: decimation nope. understand : when usg wants to impress me it's stuck prosecuting derps like shrem.
asciilifeform: very similar to what's used in usg dod
danielpbarron: i mean, USG or b-a in charge either way this all gets destroyed ultimately ; but i think i'd rather have b-a in charge if there is a choice
danielpbarron: the USG is surely wicked in that it enforces laws that are counter to The Bible
decimation: everything usg does has a civil servant with an agenda behind it
asciilifeform: decimation: how many usg employees that were once dealing in official secrets would come up entirely clean if their belongings were searched ? as in, not even a 'post-it note'
asciilifeform: plenty of ppc in usg proprietary machinery
ben_vulpes: im not saying the *usg* has to hold the roads and rails.
ben_vulpes: so they baked "free usg thermorecal exams" into the protocol
mircea_popescu: Political collapse will be resisted, and the way it will be resisted is by starting as many wars as possible, to produce a vast backdrop of failure to serve as a rationale for all sorts of “emergency measures,” << i said this a number of times, but it bears repeating : if this happens every usg employee, past or present, hangs by his guts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, others: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-collapse-leads-to-war.html << on the subject of usg's habit of losing wars
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2015#1038626 << here's the scoop on that : the usg agencies have finally gave up on Strategy of Pretense v2.0 and are moving to buy. Which explains why someone figured giving coinbase millions makes sense. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't much of the discussion in this channel based on the assumption that usg is going to fall apart?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2015 18:23:10; ascii_field: humans-in-the-loop is what -every single person nailed by usg so far- had in common.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's either a usg-controlled semi-scam, or doomed to be suppressed
mircea_popescu: cazalla the "usg mpex" comment was chiefly because there's no conceivable need a webwallet operator could have for even 1mn.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: they're trying for a usg mpex. << More like Reddit MPEX
mircea_popescu: basically, they're trying for a usg mpex. which... hey, fine, have fun trying.
mircea_popescu: but back to the story : if your call on the y fellow is correct, he makes for an absoluely perfect model of "chemistry usg".
asciilifeform: the way al saw his situation, there are precisely two choices for him - usg and its apparatchiks, and the world of unfiltered and unfundable idiot alchemists, astrologers, 'phree energy' imbeciles, and other usenet denizens which he spent all of the '90s recreationally hunting for sport
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the foibles of al slightly differently. more as a failure to intellectually detach from usg
asciilifeform: for some reason the theft of several examples of these curios by usg from sunken submarine is still considered a deep secret in usa
asciilifeform: spam like a pro, usg.
asciilifeform: lol, virtually undisguised usg muppetronics
ben_vulpes: a) it's all usg "tin woman" crap
decimation: the purpose of the game would be to 'sink' hours of the otherwise idle usg employees
decimation: maybe someone should make a bitbet for the date of the appearance of an official usg 'game'
asciilifeform: gets small pension from usg, lives alone in tiny flat, eats little