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asciilifeform: what i don't get is why the thing needs to be a unitary piece of glass
phf: we're on the same page, but purely from entomology perspective, i, for example, don't know how two competing groups of termites behave when joining forces.
phf: well, i'm more interested in mechanics of it all, since i don't believe in lizard hitler. do thugs of both camps meet at the canteen and measure each other up? are they going to embrace mutual scam wholeheartedly? are they going to try and undermine each other in subtle ways? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i just mean the part where "everyone knows the moduli don't factor" "oh look they do"
asciilifeform: i don't know the fella personally, but afaik he has not seppukued
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524440 << yeah okay okay; but i don't know what to tell the guy, what's going on here. "lotsa smart people, it's actually a republic, rewriting the world, slowly. also software" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: actually i don't even believe that can be done.
phf: mircea_popescu: having hard time finding relevant bits, since thread diverged many times. a long standing criticism of dpaste was "all these pastes are going to make log not as useful", when ben_vulpes released his wotpaste there was discussion about expiration and how to mitigate it. fwiw i don't remember where it went from there
mircea_popescu: i don't care.
mircea_popescu: but really, the only message that's worth broadcasting is some variation of "fuck you, you're not good enough and i don't like you."
mircea_popescu: the only thing "i want more than 4096" says is "my crypto is broken". so fix it, don't make the broken longer.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm maybe but i don't think so - i think he lived / spent some time there in the past
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:20 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just to me, any dreams of "global anarchist revolt" *are* lost on me (i'm terribly naive but not *that* naive). personal responsibility and individualism (vague word, i know) are necessary conditions. and.. yeah, i don't have much hope for humanity, given that...
Framedragger: sweet jesus, i don't even.
mircea_popescu: anyway, with your code i don't get your results.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523516 << i don't. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523293 << by the way, i don't think the implication of that discussion can't possibly be understated. for instance, it is a common etatist criticism of "what they call bitcoin" so really, tmsr, that "everyone running a business has an incentive to eventually run so eventually will" sort of thing. ☝︎
phf: i don't really think his message changed, it's just that he started talking about different things. there's the lisper period and then the hackernew/yc/startupschool period. i knew of him, because of the excellent On Lisp book, so i read hackers and painters when it came out, and read that dabblers and blowhards article when it came out, possibly because i thought that hackers and painters was awful (the book literally has low
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just to me, any dreams of "global anarchist revolt" *are* lost on me (i'm terribly naive but not *that* naive). personal responsibility and individualism (vague word, i know) are necessary conditions. and.. yeah, i don't have much hope for humanity, given that... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, to be perfectly clear, i'm not either accusing or suspecting x guy of this, chiefly because i don't imagine he has the resources. nevertheless, phf's objection is much harder to reject than superficially appears.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean.. i agree; i just don't agree that tptacek fits the category. sure, there are analogies, but then there exist analogies with mircea_popescu, too.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: (just ftr i don't think too much of bruce, either)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah that is fair, too, though i maintain that anyone using any such implementation is an irrevocable shithead and phuctor won't do them much good anyway - but maybe it will, i don't know; and phuctor is a needed public service anyway (so i'm not arguing against that, ftr)
Framedragger: nono they do not win; but i don't feel like articulating their shit every time it happens
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523089 << point of frustration acknowledged; however, ftr it *does* irk me when $empire$ does it; i don't point fingers at *that* here because there's a point of exhaustion and tiredness re. the latter (*not* learned helplessness / acceptance, note), and it appears to be sufficiently covered by others here :) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523032 << there is a major difference between scientific speech and political speech. i don't care about the stupid conclusions random nobody arrives at. the moment however he emits judgements of value that happen to contradict mine, i no longer care HOW he arrived at them, merely that he stated them. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't get this nonsensical theory. “Electromagnetic interference from appliances being used by neighbors could propagate through a shared transformer and have an audible effect. That’s not an unreasonable thing.”
asciilifeform: well i have nfi who formally owned the thing. if it was a public co, as i understand the board can throw out ceo if they decide that they don't like the shape of his nose.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but i don't care. everything the usg says will be used against it in all the ways it can be used against it ; and will not be used for it in any way.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean figured out in any sense but guy de maupassan'ts "animal instinct of peasants"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't dispute that with care, and expert handling, even a stock trabant might, on perfect roads, safely drive 100km/h briefly.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: don't anchor to the numbers... i only brought them up to overcome your lawnmower nonsense
danielpbarron: i don't care what ~she~ thinks
danielpbarron: what I don't get is how the "cool guys" as you put it don't mind that their girls have been "passed around"
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think that's "secret", that's somewhere in the contract that you sign with a visa network, which is separate from bank's contract
mircea_popescu: they mostly don't, and the "i'm not about to use card in foreign skimreader slit" is unescapable policy in plenty of real life situations.
thestringpuller: so you don't leave any cash in banks or like what is the arrangement there is more what I'm inquring about :P
mircea_popescu: "oh but i don't want to run a node" "fu"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-14 18:47 phf: Framedragger: i was saying hawala as an alternative to bitcoin. that was when we were looking closely at the implementation and finding all kinds of insanity. hawala is a system for tracking long term exposure, and you forego collateral because you have "fuck same woman" wot (i suspect there's still collateral involved when exposure is too high). you don't need hawal when you have near instant calls.
mats: danielpbarron: i don't follow this bit about taint only being a thing when used against usg
mats: shinohai: I don't want to read about ethereum or ethereum-likes unless it is about holders being herded into cattle cars and gassed
phf: probably what thestringpuller means is that "we" (he's speaking to a bunch of reddit anons, so i assume it's purely rhetorical) don't have a wot based market.
phf: Framedragger: i was saying hawala as an alternative to bitcoin. that was when we were looking closely at the implementation and finding all kinds of insanity. hawala is a system for tracking long term exposure, and you forego collateral because you have "fuck same woman" wot (i suspect there's still collateral involved when exposure is too high). you don't need hawal when you have near instant calls. ☟︎
danielpbarron: i don't even care for the term universe; it's usually used as a replacement for God, personified and everything ala "the universe did X"
mircea_popescu: on just add and message me..and if you are in Kenya, south Africa, Tanzania,India,Zambia, Ghana, don't add me... Because I can't help you. I can't help you if you are from those country. But if you are in the USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, NIGERIA,Nether land, Poland, and if you are in European and Asia country and so on you can also add me let's talk and I will help you be a member... Once again if you are not serious d
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, "I am here to help you become rich and famous.. If you are not serious in becoming a member please don't even think of adding me or sending me a message because I won't be happy with you.but if you know you are serious and ready to become a member just add me now let's talk and let's get to know each other more better. If you wanna be famous like rihanna, jazzy, Eminem,rick Ross, Lil Wayne, bey once and so
mircea_popescu: i just don't like cooking the barbarian stuff.
mircea_popescu: though in general this is the job of the god damned cook, which is why i don't eat just anywhere.
shinohai: I decided to stuff the whole thing in an .img file so you don't have to reinvent the whole server wheel every time
asciilifeform: thus far i don't even know if mircea_popescu's concept is absolute ('must afford dirigible') or simply 'stay out of bottom 10% of social pyramid' or what.
mircea_popescu: (the agreement i inferred to have with phf as a result of that statement was "it's not even clear what sort of hyperexponential is involved, it grows so fast". we don't have any sort of upper bounds.)
mircea_popescu: i don't see at this point what exactly could happen to graham that'd be on the strength of his public record unwarranted.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 17:48 mircea_popescu: "here's the laws and and if you don't like it, you can leave" "i'll go join the people that'll fuck you up" "o wait you can't leave" "does that mean you admit your laws are dumb ?" "nope" "does that make you a hypocritical idiot ? " "no it doesnt!!1"
mircea_popescu: mno. "i don't see how they did" and "i see how they didn't" are quite widely spaced apart.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever spoke against a hanging, maybe if nice tits invovled or something, but rare enough.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect ~anyone else would afford to do this. period.
mircea_popescu: i dunno the missionary, and don't care to remedy this.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've ever seen this in romania. or for that matter the states.
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly, i should run an ad campaign here. "Be smart, don't fuck Argentines."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519864 << i don't think it was ever contemplated in these here logs as anything but symptom. ☝︎
danielpbarron: trinque, I don't think there is any mention of bigfoot in The Bible
asciilifeform: 'So she returned to the state disability office and told them this. Their response was, "Oh, I guess that's new. Okay, no problem, we'll assign you a different ID number." My cousin's kid was like "WTF?" and asked them why they would reassign her a number rather than reassign, or better yet freeze, the SSN thief's account. Their response was that they don't get involved in those legal issues, their job is just to provide the benefit
mircea_popescu: i suspect this may be a case of "you may not use that tool here" being taken for "i don't like that tool". it was a domain problem most likely, but do link ?
mircea_popescu: i don't care about the consumer.
mircea_popescu: "|I don't see why anyone would insist on a way to do things that does not solves the real problem, but rather solve an ancilliary problem that is a problem only because someone is very stubborn." << the political ineptidude of these people.
phf: mircea_popescu: that point is consistently being driven home. in fact i got to talk lisp to a bunch of random people and had a very visceral experience of the gap. hathayogapradipika says to keep your yoga secret, i.e. don't be a incomprehensible myst. but sometimes i still get carried away. ~some~ people grok me though, even when i start speaking internal experiences.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't take it all the way to the cave, i believe that one can tap into shared mythic space which has more to do with human condition than it does with humanless abstract. but for how often i'm misunderstood, i suspect that socratic method is much more effective.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519202 << it's kind of a pun, i think of systems design as landscape traversal. i think there are frequently paths, as is the case here, that hit multiple design goals and have lower overall complexity, better than a seemingly direct path, that has a hidden high complexity. abstract discussions about ideological goals, that don't take into account design space traversal can be resolved by actual taking ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't have the 2012 ones yet
mircea_popescu: i don't dispute your goals ; merely your very inept methodology.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can we table this discussion for the time being? I understand what it is that you're getting at, but you don't have (and nor will you have) a clear picture of exactly what it is that I'm doing.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: it is not yet clear as I don't know enough about the kernel to know if I can do away with the whole "user space" thing.
phf: gabriel_laddel: you're saying that mcclim has FFI to cairo/freetype/opengl, i don't think that's true, care to link to relevant code
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know why gabriel_laddel is saying what he's saying. truetype has already been rewritten in lisp, and that's what mcclim uses for fancy truetype rendering. it's expensive as hell, and equally pointless.
gabriel_laddel: don't worry about it, I'm taking care of it
phf: asciilifeform: i don't actually know about that one :o
a111: Logged on 2016-08-11 15:11 phf: i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console"
phf: i don't think it's the same beast as openpgpjs, since the later does seem to support keys
phf: i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console" ☟︎
thestringpuller: i've never used opengpg.js but most of those things have some kind of "demo" version so you don't have to touch the code yourself without gloves
mircea_popescu: likely, but as i've never needed to i don't have it at the ready.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: (really bitch, it's "win-win" ?) << this, as it happens, it what specifically set off my bullshit alarm. i don't disagree that technology means doing more with less, nor with the place of religion in filling the materialistic voids created by modernity.
ben_vulpes: plus i don't know that i have the energy to disabuse another twenty something of a lifetime of miseducation again
ben_vulpes: yeah although i don't actually have a mistress
mircea_popescu: oh oh that. i don't care what they do.
mircea_popescu: but i ... don't. for honests.
mircea_popescu: except... i don't.
mircea_popescu: i so deeply don't give a shit WHY some failure failed.
ben_vulpes: i don't take shit on anyone's word anymore
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ? << good question. i think you might just be able to armor.
mircea_popescu: and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ?
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, why not just use gpg armor ? wtf uu
hanbot: so in V99995 testing, it'd seem the asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig is "invalid", i imagine 'cause of something to do with stan's old key? and deedbot only spits the current, which i have. i don't see the old one on btcalpha either, anyone have an idea fo' me? ☟︎
davout: lol no i don't chew tea! but when i don't smoke, i'm much more sensitive to coffee and drink tea instead
mircea_popescu: for the other thing, how do i make sure i don't burn this item, since apparently the same needle responds to 3 unrelated things ?
mircea_popescu: consequently i don't give them to solve problems they're not there to solve.
mircea_popescu: and on the other score : the weak and the ignorant are mad and have no excuse. i don't mean no excuse to mistake. i mean no excuse to be.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've seen a woman over 50 that wasn't over 30bmi in my entire time among teh muslims, actually.
mircea_popescu: i'd say futa = deeply sexualized female, with monstrously large male genitals that violate basic physics (chiefly in that they can disappear under clothes, and don't need blood to function)
covertress: sorry, idk the dynamics of this feifdom and don't know who 'ranks'... but, fair warning.. im gonna call it like i see it