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phf: asciilifeform: but what i'd like to know is why none of you lot commented. << i'm not groking how that's supposed to work with gpg signatures
pete_dushenski: http://dpaste.com/1PHC5RR.txt << my last 1000 lines of debug.log on my own stuck node, if anyone's interested
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437337 << the way i see it, the 'punishment' aspect of vtronics is secondary. the main thing is that ACTUAL PEOPLE, i.e. folks willing to ~take responsibility for their actions~, could find and recognize each other. << i think so too. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437337 << the way i see it, the 'punishment' aspect of vtronics is secondary. the main thing is that ACTUAL PEOPLE, i.e. folks willing to ~take responsibility for their actions~, could find and recognize each other. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437334 << the distance from workable theory to cold iron here is quite short, and eminently bridgeable. if we had the usable theory. which is a problem i was taking a stab at. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437332 << troika will decide!111 ☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> well, the implicit 'i swear with my life to this' - leaves me reluctant to sign anything i did not write 100% of << and who's to say, even if you wrote everything at one layer, that something doesn't fuck you in the butt from a layer below? we don't have computers. never did.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> right now, i expect to sign something half-baked that then crashes on some dirigible and gets me excommunicated << this is a very cogent point ; and i feel rather the same way.
mircea_popescu: jurov> and if your wot peer starts spamming with facebooky comments, just remove him << it's not so simple, really. it's not a sudden and visible thing, just slow slide towards shitworld where you wake up one day and wonder wtf happened. much like irl marriages.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437279 << quaternionic. ☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> this patch has 'all signers: mircea_popescu trinque asciilifeform mod6' << i'll note that this signatures you're referencing are strictly for genesis.vpatch
asciilifeform: http://104.131.72.249/patches/asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected << see, for example.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321452 << obligatory thread ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but what i'd like to know is why none of you lot commented. << compute time on my wetware has been over subscribed lately
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437161 << mega-l0l! which one of you jokers posted. ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5875 << mega-wankatron
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? << This could work -- it's in the vein of the 'BUTTSECKS' flag. Which seems simple enough. And the given topic-'tag' is a decent idea, i.e. 'OOM' or 'Cramer-Shoup' or 'keccak'
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 13:48:22; shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437115 << folks with a crapple box are in for a treat when viewing this link ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'The inaugural release of UbuntuBSD is now available, which the developers have codenamed "Escape From SystemD", and pairs the Ubuntu userspace with the FreeBSD kernel. ' << l0l!
gribble: funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 1 week, 0 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <funkenstein> !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387250.msg14270969#msg14270969 << couple of process pictures from latest poster run
shinohai: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntubsd-first-release <<< I think I threw up a little when I read this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437052 << no copro!111 l0l ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437065 << usaschwitz contains an africa : vast expanse of martian wasteland ~nobody gives half a shit about. it also contains a westerneurope: buncha decayed overcivilized folk with excess money that 'has to be harvested back from them or hyperinflation comes'. each of these prison zones gets abysmal net pipe for own reason. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 07:43:11; mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437059 << fixing the search so it actually behaves sanely (EQUIVALENT TO GREP) would be almost as useful ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437054 <<< logz!1111 >>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336224 << the mega-thread re inqtel (cia-operated hedge fund) ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436918 << now i'll bite, ~where~ uncontroversial ? at mircea_popescu's house ? ☝︎
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`.. << why does everyone labour under the impression that i think about any of this shit while i'm not here?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Царь справедливый и тиран. Не одинаковы бывают. Так хлебопашец и кабан. По-разному поля взрыхляют.' << i found in yellowed vintage volume of transl. of persian poetry to ru, as a kid
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 18:11:44; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435731 < not at all - i think there is some merit in the argument in the sense that bitbet will hardly survive the upset its going through now (which is actually devaluating the asset to be liquidated)
asciilifeform: https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#c5867 << there is what, dozen of these, and i dun think they're all nubbins`..
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which, http://trilema.com/2011/povestea-celor-trei-imparati-smecheri-si-a-celor-trei-negustori-fraieri-fabula-in-versuri-ilustrata/ << about the most insulting to romanian sensibilities thing out there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! << very principled. "no such thing as taint" means that i do not recognize the concept, or any reasoning that relies on it. it very pointedly does not mean i will behave in such a manner as to protect the taint assumptions of third parties but just the opposite.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> iirc gimp once used it, but now has the latter << yea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> hell i'd put it in bios if x86 had any provision for this <<< odd that the bios has provision for any and all retarded shits, including "power saving" but not for defining the buttons.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436666 << elisp , and emacs as a whole , suck donkey balls. it is in many ways a microscopic model of how linux sucks, a turd for which NO replacement is available, so it is kept on life support at all costs . ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436599 << 'us too! if usg can hand out $B to aggressive mediocrities, so can we!111' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436653 << you gotta ~mask~ and flag. what this does is to guarantee that the thing won't be pulled, but at the same time allow other things that might be severable from the dependency to still build. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436602 << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436622 << consider posting? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436625 << afaik there is no provision for this, because retardation ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436624 << not tried yet. but expect this to fail. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436589 << l0l check out the megatonne of censored bit ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436574 << most folks boot off a small (<=128m) ext3 for this reason ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436573 << congrats phf! this makes 2 known hard-sane gentootrons on planet3 now. others here encouraged to replicate. double-encouraged to replicate ~with musl~. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf> ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed << it does, yes, and it IS a very good and useful thing. almost makes me feel bad when mocking linuxen. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://www.internetsociety.org/sites/default/files/04_2_2.pdf << almost ideal case study of WHAT NOT TO DO omfg111111
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 20:52:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436543 << there is no provision for anything of the kind in trb, beyond the barbaric expedient of a tx which throws exception during processing simply not being stored ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 20:51:53; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> interestingly, it was among those NEVER exposed directly to the net, fed -connect directly from zoolag << that IS interesting. wut ?!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436542 << aha just sat there, hanging. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> if already nigga rigged, might as well duct tape the whole thing << that's actually not even the worst solution.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> interestingly, it was among those NEVER exposed directly to the net, fed -connect directly from zoolag << that IS interesting. wut ?! ☟︎
thestringpuller: fuck. i guess I'll just add watchdog and if logs don't have `ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED` in the last 60 minutes `kill -9 <pid>; ./startrb.sh`
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436484 << neat! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436500 << shortening doesn't work. not if the material is any good to begin with, and author 'left out the parts people skip' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436490 << you won't see this unless oom ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436494 << the idiocy of single-threaded block verification. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436488 << this is an OOM condition. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436450 << adlai awake? or is he still digesting that kg of lsd. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: and since when does that thing exist in engl?! << http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486655369 has a bunch of nifty looking books in "customers who bought"
asciilifeform: http://www.math.umt.edu/tmme/vol11no3/Egenhoff_10.pdf << jewishproblemz
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they're 20somethings who seriously party dressed. << In the US, the hamplanet hazard means 20 somethings gotta party dressed lest people get triggered of ham-raped
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:34:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436264 << really the problem is that it adds unwarranted complexity. so now we have more bits, yay. do they do anything ? notrly. well if you're going to hire a fortune teller, hire the cheapest not the best. but this aside - the problem you raise is very much a problem, and altogether this thing will have to be worked on moar.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436289 << originally when i wrote this down some months ago on paper i had a very 'cheap fortuneteller', 4 bits ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:29:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436219 << not at all, i think it's a step in the right direction. i think it also needs more thinking/discussion, but anyway.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436287 << the thing is not meant to be adopted as is (for one thing, there is no ready orifice for it to climb into atm) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:24:35; mircea_popescu: "The latter act conveys very little useful information, and no permanent sealed record remains of the effort taken to actually understand the patch. This is a Bad Thing" << the thing with this asciilifeform is that on the surface i feel very moved by the notion ; but upon examination it seems to devolve into a sort of enumerating badness ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436285 << enumerating ~belief~ ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436279 << recent units are actually ~addressable~ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436273 << your internal mp is actually, after years of practice, getting pretty good. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436264 << really the problem is that it adds unwarranted complexity. so now we have more bits, yay. do they do anything ? notrly. well if you're going to hire a fortune teller, hire the cheapest not the best. but this aside - the problem you raise is very much a problem, and altogether this thing will have to be worked on moar. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436219 << not at all, i think it's a step in the right direction. i think it also needs more thinking/discussion, but anyway. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "The latter act conveys very little useful information, and no permanent sealed record remains of the effort taken to actually understand the patch. This is a Bad Thing" << the thing with this asciilifeform is that on the surface i feel very moved by the notion ; but upon examination it seems to devolve into a sort of enumerating badness ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 18:11:44; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435731 < not at all - i think there is some merit in the argument in the sense that bitbet will hardly survive the upset its going through now (which is actually devaluating the asset to be liquidated)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436209 << the other view being that proving that we can do something no one else can or could do will on the contrary, make this asset as well as all other assets more valuable. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436207 << is it me or is phf slowly catching up on republican humor ☝︎
trinque: asciilifeform │ he also says 'intellectualizing is evil, fuck a turnip today for good health' << l0l
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436249 << this is not really intended to function on its own, beyond 'only press +trust-sealed patches' ☝︎
trinque: Not only are there times when one would like to seal a payload with a caveat of one kind or another, but presently we have no means of conveying disapproval – other than by refraining from sealing. << check it out, a wrath bit
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435802 < generally in favour - perhaps the 'actual assets' need a more tight spec? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 04:21:00; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432214 << mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: this was all very rude and uncalled for, my apologies
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435731 < not at all - i think there is some merit in the argument in the sense that bitbet will hardly survive the upset its going through now (which is actually devaluating the asset to be liquidated) ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: <10W without disk
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> PeterL: he suggested (i still can't tell if seriously!) to plug them in ~series~ << no dude. he said "see if your isp is willing to give you a c block / upgrade your connection. buy a coupla bridges of 32 or 64, make a high voltage rectifier thingee, and power a bunch of boxes" then you went all crazy about how series omaygerd! and i spent the rest of the interval poking fun at it. this is an exact para
mircea_popescu: jurov> actually, that would neatly solve the mystery of cascading failure of his raid setup << fu georg!
mircea_popescu: PeterL> maybe it is just my lack of electrical engineering knowledge, but it sounds like mircea_popescu and asciilifeform are saying to do the same thing, but won't agree with each other? << you have nfi how often this happens.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform i think his plan to fight some derps doing black magic is not to squarely ignore them, but to DO THINGS to anti-magic their magic. << Oh it's not a plan. It's noise
BingoBoingo: <jurov> was a while to get used to it. i wonder how was BingoBoingo keeping track of his nickname when it was different every time << nicknames attach to bars. If bar isn't frequented enough "hey you" workz
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435940 <<< fair'nuff ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435838 << classical telco. but the batteries were IN PARALLEL ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435837 << student exercise - prove that the 10 (usa) or 20 (eu) pogo garland will necessarily explode if they all enter cpu halt mode. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435987 << would somebody explain this to me ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435981 << i will not say that this is impossible, but i would actually like to watch somebody do it ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 14:43:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435825 << you ever saw someone do the verify thing with old style signatures ?