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mircea_popescu: phf i saw this too, but what's irking me is WHY.
mircea_popescu: phf of course childish. socialism. that's what it is.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 16:04 phf: i met fare at one of international lisp conference's and i thought he was kind of off, but the kind of work he did on asdf3 precisely corresponds to his personal and writing styles. sort of like a dirty kid that you have to constantly remind to like fucking go wash yourself dude, omg
a111: Logged on 2017-04-08 21:18 phf: like https://common-lisp.net/project/climacs/images/screenshots/old/swine-ss.png
a111: Logged on 2017-04-08 21:20 phf: well, that's the thing, the original backend from clim2 goes all the way back to genera, and it's literally all solid 1-pixel lines, and bulk of the display is text.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-08 21:17 phf: well, fwiw i've no idea if you can make clim non-ugly (i'm not even sure at this point what "ugly" means. you certainly can't trivially make it look the way "people come to expect")
a111: Logged on 2017-04-08 21:18 phf: like https://common-lisp.net/project/climacs/images/screenshots/old/swine-ss.png
ben_vulpes: phf: i would be happy to try living in either of those 'ui's
jurov: phf: that was x-post from #clim? :)
mircea_popescu: phf what's "wasp lifestyle" ? white protestant ?!
asciilifeform: phf: aha, if civilian traffic stops -- goodbye to the car transmitters
asciilifeform: phf: likewise when it operates in msec bursts
asciilifeform: phf: fox hunt when transmitter walks from dc to daylight is a difficult proposition, unless you're in near field (inductive) range already
asciilifeform: phf: naturally pirate, and frequency hop pattern exchanged cryptographically
mircea_popescu: phf lol rly ?
asciilifeform: phf: all of the linked examples thus far, fit this pattern
trinque: (wherein phf gets mad at me re: that's how set theory works and I scratch at my left stump)
asciilifeform: phf: ANYTHING defaulting to martian rather than human units, is unspeakable braindamage
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 16:02 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590416 << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIpev8JXJHQ&t=0m53s
mircea_popescu: phf asciilifeform to make you both feel better : sat i'm going to a "russian rock concert" at this massage parlour slash blinyi restaurant run by a buncha russian chicks.
asciilifeform: finally landed that coveted lighthouse keeper job phf ?
asciilifeform: phf: do you ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-06 00:25 phf: asciilifeform: do you have a set of high dpi (150/200) bitmap fonts for x11 that you use by any chance?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638494 << not one, phf ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: pw is usually trivially reset, with a button. which is why the humane thing to do is to wipe his firmware.
asciilifeform: phf: microshit sponsorship 'grinds slowly but it grinds fine'
mircea_popescu: phf o whoa
Framedragger: phf: ugggghhh. (now i recall you possibly mentioning this in relation to archive.is; i see i see.. that's what they do)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 18:06 Framedragger: quite sure that it's possible to dump dom in selenium but in any case, yes dumping it seems like a prerequisite, like what archive.is does and what phf said above
Framedragger: quite sure that it's possible to dump dom in selenium but in any case, yes dumping it seems like a prerequisite, like what archive.is does and what phf said above ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf provided eg "java runtime fonts" aren't there on top of x11-fonts etc
mircea_popescu: phf> state of the art for blind folx is misserable. << about same as in 1997.
asciilifeform: phf: at some point it invokes the truetype engine, neh
Framedragger: asciilifeform: as phf said, archive.is output does not contain js. just to clarify.
Framedragger: phf: ah, but i meant the initial rendering phase - the 'archive this plz' process itself. but thanks for clarifying yeah
Framedragger: phf: you mean, js rendering done server-side? sorry i got confused i guess
asciilifeform: phf: recall, recent lulznews item, a certain lamestream news www uses 100MB/hr while page open
asciilifeform: phf: this works when it works.
Framedragger: yeah yeah, and i recall discussion about how archive.is does this (phf had some notes), etc.; it's quite icky.
Framedragger knows phf and asn from that list personally and knows for certain that they didn't 'plagiarize' from phuctor. but whatever, if phuctor not cited, it's plagiarism because independent thought not possible, etc.
ben_vulpes: davout, trinque, mod6, mircea_popescu, danielpbarron, diana_coman, phf, jurov ^^
Framedragger: phf: ah, ty!
mircea_popescu: phf advertising cat-v ? o.O
mircea_popescu: phf my hm hasn't returned yet. what conditions are presupposed that anticipate the problem ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 12:28 mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself!
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 03:23 phf: well, since asciilifeform's not here "let them eat nagant! wake me up when less stupid people!"
mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it wasn't hot enough to melt concrete phf.
mircea_popescu: phf they pretend to be millennials. in point of fact are apes.
mircea_popescu: phf that argentina is essentially a scam. it never existed ; much like vhs america never existed.
asciilifeform: phf: that's whole planet. with possible exception of japan -- country of nursing home.
asciilifeform: phf: yeah -- my mechanic is from buenos aires, and excellent conversation
asciilifeform: phf: it left a pretty good-looking corpse, phf
mircea_popescu: phf and if you don't keep the machine online, you don't.
mircea_popescu: phf it's either predict or expose itself. there's no third.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this idea doesn't scale the way phf wants it to scale.
mircea_popescu: phf and then keeps patching ? forever ? from behind the grave ?
mircea_popescu: phf the rub is that you're stuck with infinity on one end. you really can't tell in advance what i'll want your compiler to do.
asciilifeform: phf: the basic theorem involved in breaking out of a thompsonism is specificity-of-diddling.
mircea_popescu: phf the premise ("1 item can be compromised") is true ; this however is not a ~systematic~ concern. the reason it isn't a systematic concern has everything to do with the imaginary concept of "the hash with checksum". suppose 1) a hash function existed which 2) contained a secret which 3) allowed the possessor to distiguish possible inputs into two classes and then on the basis of the result know whether the input that led to
asciilifeform: i will add to phf's summary -- if the problem afflicted ~strictly~ compilers, it would be quite easy to solve -- write bootstrap in asm. but there is no rule that it has to affect strictly compiler. could just as easily be - say - the ~loader~.
trinque: phf: that problem is introduced *by* the urge to write your compiler in its own language, neh?
mircea_popescu: phf oh sorry.
mircea_popescu: phf this is elementarily false. i don't have full control over eg female biology, enjoy full control over my slavegirls.
mircea_popescu: phf now now. don't squirm away. let's have the discussion. what exactly IS the concern.
trinque: answer's trivially yes, but size of the thing isn't moot. or do I misrepresent phf?
mircea_popescu: phf but will it necessarily be infected ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile you, catchingwind of this, go into your thomspon shrine, say abracadabra and now my kernel is infected with phf-rat ?
mircea_popescu: phf state it ?
mircea_popescu: if i come up with random "will you phf guarantee to me that if i swab her cheek on so and so date there won't be a spermatozoid in the microscope field", you'll just shrug.
mircea_popescu: phf which is my point. trust is not binary. yes you trust her, but many things she thinks you care about you don't, and even more you care in different contexts and to different levels than she imagines.
asciilifeform: phf: the need to 'trust the foundry' evaporates under the 'SOLELY fpga fabric' model of computation. we had the thread.
mircea_popescu: phf do you trust your girlfriend ?
mircea_popescu: phf but could be musl'd neh ?
asciilifeform: phf: the reason why i have not attempted the contemplated exercise, nor seriously encouraged others to do so, is that you are right -- c and unix MUST die.
asciilifeform: phf: we had at least one thread re subj. basic idea that anyone who claims to understand a million-line proggy, is a liar.
mircea_popescu: phf delve ?
mircea_popescu: phf i think hes' right though. we're not going to be solving shit.
mircea_popescu: phf the "need gcc and userland utils" you mean ?
asciilifeform: phf: problems that cannot be solved, are to be properly compartmentalized -- consider a house with a toilet, vs one where the occupants shit where they stand.
mircea_popescu: phf this is sane, imo. exposes all the dirty hacks which "in kindergarten" etc.
asciilifeform: phf: in my experience if something 'includes both', it really expects you to use binary crapola at ~some~ point.
asciilifeform: phf: pretty sure it stowed binary packages in there
asciilifeform: and yes, phf nails it, nobody 'vendored' sources.
ben_vulpes: phf: bin and not src?
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, but still, we have some experience with the neat trb building process. it can be done.
asciilifeform: phf: which is why a serious answer is to go 'full biosphere'
asciilifeform: phf: exactly
asciilifeform: phf: and i have found, that quite often -- they do not
asciilifeform: phf, ben_vulpes , shinohai , trinque , anybody ever saw a box like this ?
asciilifeform: phf: the 'make bsd with vtronic portagetron' thing looks slightly more appealing every day
asciilifeform: phf: hey, they 'deprecated' flymake (that works with all sane compilers past and future) in favour of 'flycheck' liquishit
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 22:14 phf: i suspect saifedean is pitching various audiences to create a buzz for his upcoming book, because the way he opened seemed like a cold call. "normies" "bezzle this bezzle that" every phrase felt like it was lifted from a "wake up sheeple" video with that matrix soundtrack
mircea_popescu: phf evidently not. he wasted a coupla years of his life, now in 2017 is in same position as he was in 2014. but it's ok, he's unwilling to review this, so he'll die as he lived.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 03:13 phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
mod6: <+phf> "are you boys up to no good? -- no, mam" << haha. I think she thinks we're doing great things, and have a just cause.
mircea_popescu: phf is this the "i thought you were smoking" ?
ben_vulpes: phf: implying!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-lordship-list-fourth-year/ << asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , bingoboingo , danielpbarron , davout , diana_coman , hanbot , mike_c , mircea_popescu , mod6 , phf , trinque