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mp_en_viaje personally sunk the idiotic "entrepreneurial idea" trying that in tm as one of his last measures leaving.
mp_en_viaje: as opposed to you know, dead in the water.
mp_en_viaje: and then, of course, gotta count the amusongly strong effects of brainwashing, and carefully curated childhood automatisms. girl who was cutting school to bdsm as a 16yo still has a[n inexplicable] impulse of protest when "underage" sexuality's involved.
mp_en_viaje: it's very much the case, that one wants to fuck 16yos, this one wants to collect guns (he sure as fuck won't use), that other one doesn't like ids this other one doesn't like intel, but in the end, out of a hundred issues each of a hundred "rebels" likes 99 just fine.
asciilifeform: let'em think they are being rid of junk. wouldja argue with an idjit who is selling rembrandt as wallpaper.
mp_en_viaje: approx, "rome's in flames, in tears and in slaughter, for the Caesar knows it worse than even he himself ; the wine in golden goblet and blood upon the stairs, debauchery of wine within, debauched blood without... but such as it is, bizarre and criminal, Nero's the attempt at being original."
spyked: asciilifeform, I am currently downloading (from house mogosanu into slave galley in bucharest) w cca 50MB/s, where the B stands for octets. so defo works as advertised where I am
mp_en_viaje: considering their discernment, they could just as well be persuaded it has something to do with toyota hamburgers.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, the irony -- sick of istanbul greeks, romanians decided to mail order from germany. but because too smart for their own good, and possessed of a completely unwarranted pride, came up with idea to make rule that king sons to be raised as romanians.
asciilifeform: somehow never before saw alive, only dead. ran, as if trying to swim, with those odd things they have that pass for legs.
mp_en_viaje: such as nobody remembers what work is nor anything useful left to be done ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile re the british imperial budget of 1816 was in that year reported to the earl of liverpool as "the immense sum of 14mn sterlin gper annum"
asciilifeform: ~could~ have been built in 1700s, with propeller and lignum vitae. but would've required scaled up vessel, and, as the smaller ones failed -- not built.
asciilifeform: leather sucks as wet seal.
asciilifeform: but it worked approx as well as current-day 'thinking comp'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 17:44 lobbes_field: As such, I'll start poking around at mod_lisp, et al. Will report back
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911562 <-- I will give hunchentoot a second look as well, in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911437 ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: three or four such ladders permit me to intellectually support VERY far reaching organisms, made of "thinking" people. the hard sense of think is this -- will dispose of ~any~ problem. yet the practical sense of think is, "useful as working piece in such organism".
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu , just as asciilifeform , knows what it is to have robot arm go through plate glass and stop inch short of face. in such case the equivalence becomes very obvious.
asciilifeform had old piece on roughly this subj but not quite as effective.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, point is, that the helmputter seems a much better design ~towards the same goals~ as these computer things.
mp_en_viaje: as you say, "so owner dun have to press button as often"
asciilifeform: so owner dun have to press button as often, lol
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 16:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838170 << argentines are literally and without exageration a bunch of soy farmers who pretend FOR NO REASON conceivable, a circumstance of which they are aware AND PRETEND IT DOES NOT MATTER! AT ALL!, pretend they say they're something in the vein of "third power in europe". and that they might have such things as submarines, and so on. it's literally pig going through girls' charm cabinet a
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile by reading through old tomes, „ Alan M. Turing thought about criteria to settle the question of whether Machines Can Think, a question of which we now know that it is about as relevant as the question of whether Submarines Can Swim”
mp_en_viaje: left me with large supply of spares, as i bought 3x the installed inventory, had not yet opportunity to change any.
asciilifeform: aand as such stories often end : coupla yrs later, tried to buy a 2nd, only to find that orig maker has vanished.
asciilifeform: srsly wtf, i wouldn't even have conceived of it as what someone would whine about.
asciilifeform: sodium a+++ lamp, where in edisonic lamp filament sublimates and sputters onto the glass, in sodium lamp the sublimated tungsten ends up going ~right back~ onto filament ( if somehow could be made to go back to exactly same place as came from -- lamp would be in fact eternal. as it is, 10y or so )
mp_en_viaje: i figure if nothing occured since 2017, might as well bury it.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno dood, same as always, pay 3% income tax, get 16% discount on euro-vat for construction materials, have employer at your disposal for w/e purposes you might want to employ for, it's a list.
asciilifeform: hanbot, mp_en_viaje : i assumed the service expired given as i did not go to renew.
asciilifeform: hanbot: item turned out to be obsoleted by BingoBoingo's work, as i understand. but i'ma let mp tell me how to properly dispose of it (or whether to try an' bring it back to life)
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> as it stands being mayor of some small town somewhere will run you less than what a toyota costs. << And if the Balmers et al run up the cost of mayorship, that is a damned honest signal to the rest of the world that giving away the franchise to all that fall out of a cunt for free is gravely underpricing the franchise.
mp_en_viaje: as it stands being mayor of some small town somewhere will run you less than what a toyota costs. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, dude wants to vote in romania, he can buy it now as well.
diana_coman: well yes, they certainly started as professional though it's not as if they didn't end up political too.
diana_coman: as I'm still digesting the whole thing, I still find that my mind keeps going on to "guild" more than to "political party" ; perhaps I see political party as too limited though I really just need to read more on it first (and admitedly, I doubt there is the guild form as such in Ro, lolz)
mp_en_viaje: i'm not going to break politics just because romanians gatherfed in large groups, did the student thing where everyone dropped a buck and thereby invented some schmuck "just as good as any Mircea come from afar"
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: politics is a very alien thing ; and tbh part of the exercise I see precisely in actually showing what that is as opposed to what it "came to be"; similar to what "afaceri" seems to mean if you look at "afaceristi" and so on
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as i understand they have it already -- for what then need party.
asciilifeform: entirely typical. as far back as i can remember, went exactly like so.
asciilifeform: in re 'coalition governments' as practiced in current europistan
asciilifeform: i confess , try as i might i dun see the point ( in light of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-18#1826391 historical record ) but if mp_en_viaje sees point, who am i to say he oughtn't . ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: (party went to shit, as it happens, but these things happen)
diana_coman: certainly; not as if one's own problems are not generally more than enough to keep one busy.
diana_coman: lacking that, some (generally older but not only) will look up to psd as it (seems to, at least) takes responsibility for their food at least (poisoned as it might be but...);
diana_coman: re ro politics, while my hometown is one in which ~everything is "political" (petrol industry), that part was always more about feathering X's or Y's nest so I wouldn't use that to get an idea of anything; onth re what I see as political, the way the situation in Ro reads to me is that ultimately people are desperately (and beyond i.e. without hope) looking for someone to take responsibility aka a master essentially.
diana_coman: I don't think there is much that in there; different sorts of ridoinculous as far as I can see i.e. the schmuck that found himself with money vs the schmucks that found themselves "writing a newspaper".
mp_en_viaje: very http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891911 flavour to it, as far as i can see. "oh my god, scandalous!!!". wtf, lame club grinding ☝︎
diana_coman: well, one uniform or another; being about as "right" as choosing that uniform over the other
mp_en_viaje: i'm not even sure i could ever get to writing down a list so complete as to have that sorta nothing figure on its own merits on it.
diana_coman: ah, you mean as a sort of practical irl item
mp_en_viaje: but i mean, suppose i feel like redoing http://trilema.com/2010/domnisoare-nude-citind/ (probably in budapest). why no tmake it as Romanian Serene Republic party event, and why not say "it's in budapest because romania sucks".
mp_en_viaje: well, it;s not already included in any practical sense (as it doesn't exist). obv its included in all ideal senses, yes.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: as a sort of tmsr.ro ? or what would the difference be exactly as I don't quite grok in what way a "political party" is not already included in tmsr as it were
spyked: at the very least teh psds are specialized in drawing votes from the general populace. as for xtians, that's (in my very limited experience) where most people who are not completely retarded lie, and they'll cling to that. but that's only as far as I know (which ain't much)
mp_en_viaje: end pensions as a concept, remove personal bankruptcy (replace with prison term), restrict corporations to corporation sole, no more aggregate...
mp_en_viaje: on-407.0-423.497][traditional stupidity], raise awareness among kids as to the losing idiocy of relationships within their age group, familiarize public with domestic and sexual slavery, promote the harem as the correct alternative to "traditional marriage" nonsense, on it goes.
mp_en_viaje: ah, that was an attempt to help out a pre-existing item. (in fairness, romania hasn't had any ideas in 2-3 decades ; as it happens historically the iron guard was ~100% of the romanian modern culture, certainly in the 20th century)
mp_en_viaje: maybe not the written "one" (as fucking if), but defo the factual one as emerged in practice.
mp_en_viaje: ok, so don't use that. just because random plugin was written by tard doesn't invalidate either php as a ... text processor, nor wp plugins as an extension framerowkr for mp-wp
mp_en_viaje: you have this very ineffectual approach to things where you'll try either a very high level thing from first principles (usually, as applied to some extand software) or else a handwritten-on-knee minimalist thing. there's space in between these two, you know.
asciilifeform: rright but mp_en_viaje orig. made it sound as if fux were a recent discovery, like vlsi, lol
mp_en_viaje: nevertheless, large objects are discrete, no quantum mechanics applies. as a factual matter, ~nobody had any fucking sex until we came around and taught teens to shave the bush etc, late 80s.
mp_en_viaje: it's easy to play along and pretend, "oh, there's all these people getting their dick sucked nowadays, it's almost as if mine's sucked too", electron-cloud sorta reasoning.
lobbes_field: As for extending, it seems that the bot went down with 12 hours left, so I could easily extend it another 12
PeterL: asciilifeform: what would haldling correctly look like? it just declares the last bid it saw as the winner, or extend the auction based on the time it missed?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-07 14:37 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol, cluj is on same parallel as asciilifeform's homeworld. what 'snowy north' .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol, cluj is on same parallel as asciilifeform's homeworld. what 'snowy north' . ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Possible, but this artifact is roughly as culturally embedded as the estufa electrica is across the river.
BingoBoingo: When I came down here business class was at least twice as expensive as economy.
asciilifeform: and same as before, no 1 crate may weigh > 45kg.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loox same as before, 'Overweight and oversize baggage for international flights' 33-45kg 200 usd ea.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: While you plan your next run down here make sure to re-review Copa's baggage policies. They seem to be shifting as these things do. http://archive.is/mU9FX
lobbes_field: As such, I'll start poking around at mod_lisp, et al. Will report back ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: well, have industry so as to extract it. your theory is experimentally weak, romania had lots of oil, had no industry under blue "ourdemcoracy" 1900 version, then had industry under red socialist democracy 1950s version, now they're fucking it up to get back to blue version, etc.
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, current-day brazil is a petromiamistan, rather like current ru (picture if ru were moved to equator, for extra tropical-stupidity radiation damage ..) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 14:47 asciilifeform: first gotta fully describe the atrocity, so as it is not repeated in future. mp_en_viaje recall that shoemaker-era defunkt public toilet in timis 3 blocks from 'kaufland' ?
mp_en_viaje: meaning, updates may be slow to propagate, but consider -- new trilema article takes 15 mins to make it to rss, and as far as any rss reader is concerned, it
mp_en_viaje: but there's also the c) of "use the fucking filesystem as an interface", X dumps to file and Y reads from file
asciilifeform: 'hunchentoot' etc. are almost always run 'behind' apache as it is ( so static files serve up faster )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's been tried, 'cl as script lang', bog slow cuz bringing it up ( cl on x86 is moar or less halfbaked lispm emulator ) takes time.
mp_en_viaje: have lisp run as a scripting language (which is to say, inferior, kiddy fare) inside adult programs.
asciilifeform: first gotta fully describe the atrocity, so as it is not repeated in future. mp_en_viaje recall that shoemaker-era defunkt public toilet in timis 3 blocks from 'kaufland' ? ☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910659 <-- come to think of it, there's no reason to limit pastebin to images. could do text files as well and extend to other formats as needed ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-05#1911289 << more to it if you're eaten... nature doesn't belive in multiple designs, an esophagus is just as warm, soft an' juicy as a vagina. ☝︎
danielpbarron: just as bad as in CT
danielpbarron: no, we meet in eachother's houses for church and we don't register any of them as such
asciilifeform: didja have it Officially proclaimed as a church ?
asciilifeform: let's illustrate. 'umi yukaba', jp naval anthem, '37 and on. 'if i go to sea / i shall be a washed up corpse. / if i go to the mountains / a corpse i shall be in the grass / but as i die for the emperor / i will have no regret ' roughly.
mp_en_viaje: as the old adage goes, the problem with suicides is that the ones that manage are the only ones you actually want to have failed.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2013/margaritas-ante-porcos-as-it-were/#selection-429.31-429.108 << afaik the best statement of the situation.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:35 asciilifeform: that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flag and loyalty-parades ... Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and as a
a111: Logged on 2019-05-05 20:29 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it wouldn't be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo.
mp_en_viaje: "Rudy Ray Moore, known as "Dolemite", is well known for having used the term in his comedic performances. While Signifyin(g) is the term coined by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. to represent a black vernacular, the idea stems from the thoughts of Ferdinand De Saussure and the process of signifying—"the association between words and the ideas they indicate."[4] Gates states, "'Signification,' in Standard English, denotes the meaning that a term c
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it wouldn't be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: all knowing (as the cultural process) is in the end a trapdoor function of some kind and no more.
mp_en_viaje: anyways. as an anthropological fact males are significantly more sexually conservative and significantly less sexually informed than females.
mp_en_viaje: had he arrived on a bike, or asked for peanuts, well... it'd have not worked out as well.