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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that it's still ~ordered~ from low to high, irrespective of how it happens to have a small cardinal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but only as a "low high headcount".
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
asciilifeform: lol, i was gettin' ready to read a rewritten eulora protocol...
mircea_popescu: sorry about that ; somehow had a bad ' in title.
ben_vulpes: doesn't ring much of a bell
asciilifeform: their 3ring notebook has just a handful of formulae, and they apply, religiously, each one, forever.
mircea_popescu: that's how democratic state stays stable : a) integrating the world but also b) desintegrating the zek mind.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-13 22:23 mircea_popescu: "In 2013, two men from upstate New York were arrested after building a radioactive "death ray" device and plotting to use it against Muslims"
mircea_popescu: nah. just the ~integrated~ ones. see ? the moment they integrate their courage, they a) lose some portions of it and b) become indeed very dangerous.
asciilifeform: rather than plot for 20 yrs to club a guard and steal rifle and etc.
mircea_popescu: bravery, see ? he who dares take gang hookers on a whim, can in principle dare to go steal the nuke keys.
asciilifeform: i saw a film exactly like this once; utter rubbish, where some 'historian' d00d steals 'declaration of independence' from museum
mircea_popescu: this is ~all they see, and therefore they believe it. hey, if you're as cute as a button and don't bow to patriarchy, you can just walk with a hunk of gold from fort knox.
mircea_popescu: ever seen http://trilema.com/2011/bad-teacher/ ? bitch wants new tits and dun wanna suck cock for it, because "that's bad and no http://trilema.com/2013/queers/#selection-135.66-135.84 dame would ever do it". so INSTEAD she breaks into fed vault, steals standardized test a day before it's administered.
mircea_popescu: see, this is to my eyes the principal vulnerability of the whole charade. always it is the case with tripartite stable systems you get a sewing together somewhewre, and so is here. the zeks must, at the same time, be brave enough to steal from pighead and ALSO cowardly enough they'll eagerly participate in samokritika sessions.
mircea_popescu: classical london, the model the us briefly seemed to manage immitating, was the place where all sorts of orcs (such as you know, lenin) went into "exile", because unlike their originating goatfuckistan, london did not give a shit about "politics" and "ideologies". because it had a better one.
mircea_popescu: sure. yet, for illustration : suppose camelfucker (as esltard imagines it) were sent to bomb vhs-america (as orc imagines it). the result ? after weeks of silence, "hey man, why do you want to harm these ppl, they're cool. i put in my greencard application and found a local gf, don't call her a whore she just likes to give head in bathrooms, it's all good"
asciilifeform: the mega-problem is, that it remains to be seen... whether bitcoin actually works. ( consider, in principle, errybody, from the dc folx, to the cheese sellers at the sunday market, ought to be cutting one another's throats for a chance to get some of that sweet coin sent their way. BUT in actuality, they do not! why not ? )
mircea_popescu: this is how the republic corrupts, in that once it's on the table, every man is now compelled to make a choice, and the other choice is incompatible with intelligence.
mircea_popescu: no. not the certain point. every day, every agent opf the empire is confronted with the http://trilema.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/#selection-967.295-971.2 problem. it is why they send people to steal the bitcoin from that "silkworm" tard, then sent more people to steal it from the people they sent to steal if and ended up stealing it ~for thems
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 20:05 mircea_popescu: ie, even if the bank welcomed it (which it doesn't because they're trying to do business not participate in la revolucion), you couldn't in good conscience condone a process that constantly results in you processing stolen money. cuz you're not in that fucking business, and if you'd rather be then go work for the ny families or something.
asciilifeform: now that we reviewed the usg-plankton-thieves triangle , possibly mircea_popescu grasps why asciilifeform disagrees with the moral angle of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816611 : yes , it is problem to accept 'dirty' fiatola, but not from ethical angle, but because we don't have the tank divisions and orbital thermonuke droppers to properly counter a fully-rousted enemy anthill, yet ☝︎
mircea_popescu: transparently, the reason the old man even did the film, and what they tgold him to be in it etc, is because he wanted to put the following phrase out there where i could reach it : "that in a few years, the right wingers will use the narcotics pretext to create an international police state".
asciilifeform: to a man, they never 'checked out mentally' from usg reich, they still dream, in the end somehow, of miami.
mircea_popescu: and the cost ~to the system~ (because no, NOBODY who speaks english as a primary language PRODUCES anything, nor has, nor will while this lasts) of either kind is very finely equal
asciilifeform: well yes, they play the role of lions and rhinos in a kind of safari park for usg 'threeletters'
mircea_popescu: just, "you can either get three food pellets a day and here's the cage bars, or else two and a half food pellets and we use the special invisible bars for your cage. same cost to us, what's your preference ?"
asciilifeform: the 'i'd rather make 50k as a free man in sunlight, even if running from police, than 500k under fluorescent lights writing usg reports'
asciilifeform: they aren't (all) terrible at maths. simply there is a hidden term in this equation.
asciilifeform: so no, there is not a 'same money', it absolutely is not 'same money' if it has to be earned in a cube and wearing an id badge '9 to 5'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's complicated, for them; all of the examples i've witnessed up close, were simply running from cube hell, and absolutely did not give half a shit at what, exact , cost; and i can't really blame;em
mircea_popescu: the http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/#selection-119.0-119.99 is as much a part of the shitworld they built for themselves as is "herp derp your words can never touch me"
mircea_popescu: exactly a restatement of http://trilema.com/2018/the-retards-handshake/#selection-151.0-187.20
asciilifeform: this was implicit in the 'anarchotyranny' label, which i stole from somebody or other (moldbug?) where it was described how a predator-prey equilibrium is carefully maintained by usg
asciilifeform: the 'they hire somebody to make proper rsa card', it's a 'fried ice' hypothetical, tho. because the cc 'fraud' is a required element of maintaining the konsoomer 'purchasing' circulation the system needs in order to live.
mircea_popescu: and ~this~, this and only this, is why i said and i've been saying that only burning the whole thing down is a feasible approach. because of this.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, to return to your theory : if government somehow decided to hire you to make them a proper card and implemented your design, the other end of the retard empire, "the people themselves" (aka, http://trilema.com/2014/the-definitive-tract-on-sociopathy/#selection-97.245-97.262 ) woul;d not use it because (and this is a direct quote) "it's too much pressure".
mircea_popescu: if what maduro is running there is socialism i'm a woman.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, except they DO KNOW he exists. recently present retard dared say http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815400 as a proxy for "fuck maduro", rather than being there, naked on hands and knees, begging to be allowed into the system. as per http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/#selection-57.0-56.1 and http://trilema.com/2017/in-scams-today-disk-less-terminal-sa-dba-laesquinadelamazmorra/#selection-167.0-175.137 an ☝︎
mircea_popescu: even a child's worth a little money.
mircea_popescu: is there anything worth less in the reich than a fucking woman ?!
mircea_popescu: and not even for money! FOR A WOMAN!!!!
mircea_popescu: their apparently shared expecation is that they can sit in a bar at a table together and drink the same beer.
mircea_popescu: yes, but think! think! rodrigo bonzalez the javascript expert of a shitty apt with not even a working lock in madrid perceived pighead the hard timer as... ALSO!!!! a javascript expert.
a111: Logged on 2015-05-04 13:42 mircea_popescu: and the monkey is going "fuck you bitch" quite literally at the experimenter, whom it (wrongly) perceives as a monkey of the same age and sex.
mircea_popescu: socialism has created a broken world. which takes us right back to the rock'n'roll / soviet state thing from yest : the 1988 problem ~wasn't~ aesthetic. it was that the "responses" provided by "the system" were strictly speaking http://trilema.com/2018/printul/#selection-39.91-39.107
asciilifeform doesn't pretend to have a tight grip on the problem, relying as he does on 'astronomical' observations through a thick fog of crapola
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if this guy meets your definition of "budget model" then i am at a loss for words. how would the putative mob set the hiring standards higher ?
mircea_popescu: some dumbass spanish redditard, yes, becuause who buys fucktickets from inept pigheads, some dumbass 45yo stackexchanger, expert sexchanger, some fucktard "computer engineer" DARED, not merely to steal the woman of a convicted murderer running a prostitution ring, but then not even go into hiding in fuckbumstan. no, he went with her ~to the fucking police~.
mircea_popescu: n, not two, N! i don't even know HOW HIGH ABOVE A DOZEN!!! girls were... i'm not sure anyone is ready for this... they were rescued by customers.
mircea_popescu: which is how he ended up with my people, i left sleepers to look for legal lulz for my own personal amusement. and it turned out that he ALSO had a large term in italy that neither the spanish nor the romanians even knew about.
mircea_popescu: he spent those 7 years building up a network inside the prison. he then got out, moved to spain, and started what's called "human trafficking". ie, he'd trick idiot girlies into coming over, chained them to a post and soldf fuck tickets.
mircea_popescu: here it is : he was convicted of a murder (the inept rural sort, ie, exactly what you say) many years ago. he got a term which turned to about 7 years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, http://uploads.gazetadecluj.ro/gazcluj/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ion-clamparu.jpg << look at this ugly fuck. knowing he is known as "cap de porc" ie "pighead", tell me what he does for a living ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i do not necessarily disagree with your theory. but let me walk you through a practical anecdote, so we understand the world better together, shall we ?
asciilifeform: 'carding' ~as a concept~ is 100% usg-engineered 'anarchotyranny' -- http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-13#499334 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, even if the bank welcomed it (which it doesn't because they're trying to do business not participate in la revolucion), you couldn't in good conscience condone a process that constantly results in you processing stolen money. cuz you're not in that fucking business, and if you'd rather be then go work for the ny families or something. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now all this withstanding, asciilifeform has a point in the following sense : if you constantly end up with stolen funds, something will ahve to be done about it -- and by you, as a sane fucking person. money transfers don't exist so idle fucktards can sit around on wealth they didn't work for, "oh, i wonder if i should do my homework or read up on carding forums".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, not a matter of soros. a matter of two truckloads of screws vs two piles of "information products".
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of rot and bullshit meanwhile baked into the system, such as, "sepa" (ie, i-can't-believe-it's-not-a-wire eurozone-only ersatz) has a two week recallable period. other banks may have other arrangements. the standard is that the other bank will ask for the money to be sent back "voluntarily" ; the bank may do it and pretend you agreed -- and feel free to take them to court, if your lawyers never met their law
mircea_popescu: the correct approach, of course, is to not merely have an account with a bank outside of nato reich, but to have sufficient legal presence there that you get to the actual bottom of things with the bank (ie, not "retail shop clerk told me some random nonsense he assumed to be the case"), and then only clear transfers once the wire has in fact cleared (a signal most banks don't expose to most customers, because everyone involv
mircea_popescu: the point of concern is that if indeed you are paid with stolen funds, your recourse is very limited (hurr durr, "negrate" guy on web-fake-wot, so what, you invested btc in improving some unalligend bs website ?) and without your own bank account, your ability to evaluate the cost of risk is also very limited (dood hijacks some losers windows-broswer-session, sends you 5k, the bank of the loser sends it, then a week later ask
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 00:10 mircea_popescu: re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813559 : one important palliative measure would be for ben_vulpes to create a strong presence on localbitcoins, if nowhere else. there's people there willing to do wires for you, and you never know when it comes handy in a pinch.
mircea_popescu: re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1813874 ; in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814511 i had my own intel examine it. it turns out that a) fraud is indeed rampant there, and especially for larger ammounts (this is web world, so larger is > 49.95 or so) and b) aged accounts with large trade histories are regularily bought/sold on fraudster forums. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: brb, gotta give a girl some fun
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i forgot to make a title. use your imagination.
trinque: really depends on whether it's a "throw switch first and ask questions later" or "if somebody whines, you have $duration to tell user to stop"
trinque: "(b) la infracción a los derechos de propiedad intelectual e industrial" << so no seedboxen eh? ☟︎
asciilifeform: lobbes: he posted it a while back
lobbes: trinque's got a point re: marketing materials. Also, can I get a copy of the service agreement pizarro has with dc (en español is fine)? The primary selling point for the shared hosting is going to be "host whatever you want", but it obviously cannot be "anything" so salesperson needs to know the edges
trinque: first thing a salesman is going to ask for is marketing material. website with list of offered services would be a good start.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816417 << Sounds like a sweet deal ☝︎
trinque: well that, and it requires installing a bunch of required libs neh?
trinque: this before I gave up and put a nintendo^wwindows machine on my toiletnet
Mocky: shinohai, thanks re: mims warez. I found similar, already a 3rd of the way thru. a book hand printed in mechanical pencil... remarkable
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816456 <-- hey, neat archeologgy! may I persuade you to reflow the preformatted content somehow (replace pre with blockquote or something else)? it's a pita to read long log lines on 80 column setups. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:20 spyked: asciilifeform: http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2015/02/hc-85.jpg (though mine was a HC 90 I think). Romanian ZX Spectrum clone, similar to many others discussed here
spyked: but sure, not at all a coincidence, since I got my first http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774876 in 1992. ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816441 <-- this is golden! /me stumbles upon http://manualul.info/Alg_X_1989/ , looks at ToC: "elemente de prelucrare automată a datelor --> câteva instrucțiuni ale limbajului BASIC". and to think, this was wahahay before the days of "everyone and their dog has computer in their pocket" and "teach all kidz computer science"! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the fucktards apparently can't reconstruct a mbr ; and who needs jfs anyway.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 23:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816404 << believe or not, i dun actually have a en<->de .txt . ( the arch-bestseller , v. k. mueller's en<->ru , is errywhere, e.g. http://www.alleng.ru/d/engl/engl150.htm )
mircea_popescu: it's so fucking broken a conceit as to be strictly incompatible with thought.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, all these fucktards derping about "regulators". it is strictly impossible to have anything intelligent or meaningful to say if it includes the word "regulator" ; EXACTLY in the way it was impossible to say anything intelligent if your verbiage included "phlogiston" a century ago, or geocentrism six centuries ago and so following.
mircea_popescu: and there is such a thing as a "bride's shame" plant too. so yes, the proposed conceit was that girls impregnated out of wedlock had taken as stroll through a flowery meadow and well... it caught.
mircea_popescu: ro custom actually was, for a long time, to give flower names to kids of unknown parentage.
mircea_popescu: lol. actually, that's simply a bastard.
Mocky: a fi copil din flori`to be born on the wrong side of the blanket
mircea_popescu: this paradigm readily explains the soviet state - "rock and roll" relationship, and moreover that historical accident had a lot to do with why alphabet even ~exists~ today. otherwise, on the naked strength of imaginary "advertising revenue" google is worth ~dozen stackexchanges/slashdots/sourceforges. but, generals always fight last year's war, and so here we are, "bayesian lesswisdom". ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's not a "general purpose" item.
Mocky: not finish, but did actually take a stab at some ro articles, via google translate. ha ha so much for google's ai, translate's not worth a damn
a111: Logged on 2015-05-01 17:16 mircea_popescu: the path from the current FOSS, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine
mircea_popescu: mod6, ah, sure. can't say i've thought about it much nor have an oppinion. just a set of magic numbers afaik.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, that was a pretty good read.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there.
ben_vulpes: not urgent by any means, possibly even a good switch-cover.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:30 asciilifeform: ( folx-on-the-periphery-of-l1 : might be a good use of coupla hrs to dredge the logs for 'why ada' material that could point n00bz to, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682480 )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the item is fulla all sorts of references, subversions, wordplay etcetera. "ana are mere" is a locus in ro vernacular even today, for instance.
asciilifeform: quite a bit like asciilifeform's homeworld.