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a111: Logged on 2019-03-06 23:08 asciilifeform: if
these were available, could stand up a logger in 10min or so..
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 08:45 mp_en_viaje: is
the situation basically
that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger
that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with
trinque,
that's lacking what, web bindings ? and
then spyked was working on one
that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ?
mp_en_viaje: started all sorts of "side projects" ridiculousness, from hangouts or w/e
to
the above mentioned "gifee"
mp_en_viaje: i believe google stopped
trying cca 2005-2007 or so.
spyked: re. ai/ml, supposedly google uses
that (and it also crawls
trilema.com), but it's useless most of
the
time. i recall wasting hours finding some particular piece via google,
then discovering it by manually crawling or via logs
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:59 mp_en_viaje: if only
there were somehow possible
to make a
trilema compiler,
that'd
then shit out
the AST for it...
mp_en_viaje: wth is
this bullshit, anyway! left
to own devices how about we just driftwood forever into nothingness! when i discovered a problem with mp-wp, at night in fucking minsk, i was also ~publishing~ a solution
the next fucking morning, what
the everloving fuck already.
mp_en_viaje: after which ima simply start banning loggers in channel ; and i'll have a very dim oppinion of everyone involved -- for very good cause! ; and i guess
then have someone else make a proper logger, which will become mandatory because i'm not authorizing new ones until
the old one fucks up.
mp_en_viaje: i guess ~optionally~ next-day service for any asking lord, in lieu of actual publishing -- which is a cop-out i will close my eyes upon for a limited
time in
the future. but in general, if you're not willing
to share code within
the l1, you have no business here at all.
mp_en_viaje: code you are in fact using,
that is who you ARE, stop pretending.
mp_en_viaje: irrespective of what "i am supposed
to do", what i'm going
to do is
this : ima give everyone a ~short~ interval
to bring
their log stacks up
to speed, meaning ~absolutely~ a complete and ready
to use v-tree (even if it's just one genesis, like idiots)
that
they can send any asking lord -- and i don't give a flying fuck how "proud" you are of
the code you're using, you're what you do not what you say, or what you imagine yourself you wish
to be.
that
mp_en_viaje: if i have a lord on
the record asking for service
TWO WEEKS AGO and bupkiss, what am i supposed
to do ?
tell
them "sorry,
this is
the republic we don't have fish at..." like in
the old joke ?!
mp_en_viaje: it's one
thing
to "not want
to publish your code" ; not particularly respectable, at all, but whatever. if you do
that, however, YOU MUST PROVIDE
THE SERVICE. if you don't publish
the code (even by
the very modest yet perfectly acceptable standard of shipping an encrypted bundle
to
the asking lord) and you don't provide
the service,
then what
the fuck are you doing ?
diana_coman: spyked: but you have something working, namely whatever you are using for #eulora logs, right? why not publish
that?
spyked: initial item
that sent me out on wwwistics was
the image pastebin
that mp_en_viaje suggested
spyked: granted, I never set out
to publish a logger www, but given
the constant need and lack, I'll add it
to my list
spyked: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman: from my side,
the infrastructure isn't ready,
that is,
the www server and possibly other pieces
that I don't know about yet
mp_en_viaje: is
the situation basically
that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger
that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with
trinque,
that's lacking what, web bindings ? and
then spyked was working on one
that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-07-11 14:19 diana_coman: ben_vulpes can I have #ossasepia logged
too please?
mp_en_viaje: JIT stack over here at
the republican forum! now all you gotta do is orchestrate it!
mp_en_viaje: or rather, it's
the ~only possible future~ for
the "workman" of marx and ziggler, sure as fuck
the republic ain't about
to give
them "jobs"
to "write about immigration".
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in imperial news, i was re-reading 2016 and holy hell do
three years make it obvious :
the empire drones have optimized computing into "computing", whith a very obvious end goal of... making up more jobs!
mp_en_viaje: in short, i believe
the ai-childrens' books are already written, just about. now if someone could just please get pregnant with an ai and deliver it
to some sort of
term, why...
that'd be
tits.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 17:41 asciilifeform: ( if you have ~any correlation in
the independent bitstreams , you won't converge .
the academiderps
tried
to get around
this by using constructed prng's, had
the expected result -- buncha dead
trees and 0 working devices )
mp_en_viaje: similar datasets might of course be constructed deliberately ("take all research paper in x field organized by etvos number or refcount or some metric"), but
then
they are... wrong! you end up constructing a dataset on some kind or manner of "global warming", which makes it exactly like "vampire fiction" or any other popcultural category, an exercise in kitsch fiction, meaning your ai
will not work, for f
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: but for
the other, infinitely more important point -- of structure.
this is natively digital, it wasn't digitized, it never existed in any other form.
this shows, and not just because it links itself and it footnotes itself and structures itself deliberately in countless ways.
mp_en_viaje: for one
thing,
the sheer volume -- larger
things can be collected, but
then
they'd have
to be of much lower coherence, something like "the gutenberg database of english literature" ; while similarily coherent
things also exist (tho i'd argue it's still a "5, 3, 7, 2 and 4 are similar
to 179" sort of similarity) but
then
they'd have
to be much, much
tinier.
mp_en_viaje: upon meditation, i do not believe
there exists
throughout
the history of human culture a better dataset
to
train "ai"/"machine learning" upon.
mp_en_viaje: if only
there were somehow possible
to make a
trilema compiler,
that'd
then shit out
the AST for it...
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: what
the fujck will i do with
this disaster,
the constant problem of "
fuck me, now i can't find it" is one part ;
the other part's
that well... even when i
think i know exactly what i want, an ever growing possibility is
that in fact i don't,
there's a better option i'm just not
thinking of.
mp_en_viaje: y discussion ;
though im pretty sure i've used other reference points in discussions where
this'd have workded better.
mp_en_viaje: nfi how she escaped
the normal fate of
these, but anyways.
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje:
The operation succeeded.
mp_en_viaje: hink I just
took a guess?
This isn't
the first
time
this game has been played,
there've been over 100 generations of Guess What Happens Next and it is
the exact same answer every single
time. All of
this has happened before and it will happen again."
mp_en_viaje: "You're
thinking, "I don't want
to hear about how everything is interpretable
through
the artificial paradigm of narrative structure--" as if it was me and not your god who made it
this way, as if I was better able
to invent a convenient fiction
that happened
to apply
to you rather
than describe a process
that's been used for millennia. You
think you're
the first? You
think no one but you has lived your life? Do you
think you are so unique? Do you
t mp_en_viaje: keks. remember back when flying a flag meant something ? back in
the days of
richard cobden an'
the 4 night parliament debate on
the 2nd opium war ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 06:12
trinque: nah, I'm
told my head wasn't as squashy as
they often are
BingoBoingo: Congrat bvt. Comment summarizing
the 2016 convo
mp_en_viaje: got any juice
to be sucked, and
that'll be
that.
mp_en_viaje: In any case,
the 2016 premonition did come
true : we do in fact now have a decent working statement of what
the problem'd be with "the form of christianity you were importing
there" : by its fruits we know it as a silly concoction of pointless waste, producing nothing, good for nothing [of
this world], entirely meaningless and pointedly indistinguishable from "postmodern art" or whatever other diseases of
the overfed. It'll suck you dry while you've
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 22:35 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron at
the very least
the devil can't
testify. who cares what
the usg
thinks you've done, nobody's liable
to ask it, nor may it likely acquire a voice without losing itself.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 22:27 mircea_popescu: i suspect much more serious sticking points will come
the other way. specifically, i suspect
tmsr
to be a larger intellectual force
than whosoever darwin fish is, as a
temporal rather
than spiritual matter. consequently,
the sticking point will not be inferences from him limiting us, but inferences from us driving him up
the wall. for instance, obvious possible sticking point being
that in
tmsr doctrine, it is a sin
to engage
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 05:55 mircea_popescu: so your plan for
the ~rest of your life is
to sit on a patch of dirt in ok and basically wait ?
mp_en_viaje: because i'm such a carefully innovative and polishedly expressive fellow, i never fucking use
the same words for anything, for my sins.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 19:07 mircea_popescu:
trinque, "go
to church" doesn't begin
to describe it. here's
the story as condensed by intel :
mp_en_viaje: except, of course, none of
the words match
mp_en_viaje: yes, but no. it was quite in
the format, "by its poisonous fruits will we know
this church was actually devil's work" or somesuch.
mp_en_viaje: so somewhere i
told dpb
that
the false nature of his church
thingee will become evident in
time,
through its poisonous fruits, in
the shape of its complete sterility. but, of course, cant fucking find
this anymore. anyone have it /
diana_coman: in
the patch (it's p2.vpatch in
there), it's clear
that
the hashes are
the same for
the file so it IS
the same file.
diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made a simple
test with moving one file
to a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
bvt: hello. i'll be
traveling
this week,
the end result is supposed
to be a working
trb node; i don't expect
that any other productive work will be done otherwise. bvt_away is
the account
that i may switch
to during
this
time.
mp_en_viaje: or, i suppose, from
the other perspective, it's a wonder minsk people haven't
taken over
the literary world yet.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, holy shit adnotating
tlp's fucking addictive
trinque: feh, ok.
time
to ditch
the singaporean box.
diana_coman: with many
thanks
to BingoBoingo for his prompt and faultless service
BingoBoingo: Feel free
to use whatever
tools you want
to backup
the database
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'm not familiar with crontab, but your db user has full privileges on
the mp-wp blog's database