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mircea_popescu: but the discussion here isn't "naive perception of item x as compared to naive perception of item y". that'll be biased by the direct interaction. the discussion is "industrial item x vs y".
mircea_popescu: well depends what you mean and what you're talking about. some people call their http "transactions", and the "road ahead is clear" as they say to next propose mpex css ain't good enough to be nasdaq.
mircea_popescu: in fact specified as opposed to farted code has this property, that you write two programs per spec like that. hence "agile" ie "code is the spec" ie "please shoot me" modernity.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 14:15 phf: part of spec as far as i understand it, that the (fhf mp ...) part is a canonical, but not the only implementation. so yeah you could write optimal version of mp's fhf, but it's not going to speak the same dictionary, and you won't be necessarily able to apply same optimizations to other (fhf ...). (or i guess you can, but require more cleverness than just etc.)
mircea_popescu: and then there's the "screw". as phf sez, nuff said.
phf: i wouldn't call it bitter, at least he didn't think of if* proponents as complete retards.
phf: part of spec as far as i understand it, that the (fhf mp ...) part is a canonical, but not the only implementation. so yeah you could write optimal version of mp's fhf, but it's not going to speak the same dictionary, and you won't be necessarily able to apply same optimizations to other (fhf ...). (or i guess you can, but require more cleverness than just etc.) ☟︎
asciilifeform: one hint -- look at 'screw' as a modular congruence ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ah im sorry, to match as in a set. conjunto fambly should suit you.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a human-accessible time interval that's not human accessible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even doublespend, they were not allocated. therer's such a thing as nonbinding allcoators.
mircea_popescu: there's a space between closure (as an abstract) and settlement (as a practical).
phf: as the fervor increasing there's a general loss of steam. how many misfires can these people afford?
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Trump appointees continue to increase as percentage of people arbitrating rules
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: many fiat stocks showing 123.47 as price << Y no submission?
mircea_popescu: (progressive, as opposed to classic, which doesn't exist because butt still sore)
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: many fiat stocks showing 123.47 as price
asciilifeform: as it is, even crapple pocket comps have standalone sdram.
scriba: ssh banner of 177.234.2.145 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-1.99-HUAWEI-1.5
scriba: ssh banner of 177.234.11.157 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-1.99-HUAWEI-1.5
scriba: ssh banner of 177.234.7.47 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-1.99-DOPRA-1.5
mircea_popescu: and as moisutre in the environment cools, it either rusts on them or else outright freezes
ben_vulpes: oh, as water comes out of the air, pressure drops and makes opening the thing impossible?
mircea_popescu: as i understad, we have it exactly.
asciilifeform: whereas as i understand it, we do not have this.
mircea_popescu: and this should, at least to my superficial mind, work as rsa padding.
mircea_popescu: no. if you have message M, and compute a fhf on it, and give out the M, you used fhf as a hash. if you give out both H and S, you used fhf as a "bit convertor" or w/e, the original M can be extracted, with sweat.
asciilifeform: so idea is to use S as the message, rather than the nominal hash result ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescuhash, as currently written, is a lossy operation
mircea_popescu: so bnasically, fhf as just a m is a hash, as s+m it's a "padding" function
a111: Logged on 2014-03-29 01:53 asciilifeform: encode payload as bits on a grid, and run cellular automaton
asciilifeform: observation is that 'gnarly slow hash with bitwise sliders' is not so much of a pill against theenemy as running on pc hardware suggests
mircea_popescu: as someone who has written 64kb in one sitting, it's ONLY FUCKING FAIR.
mircea_popescu: you're not gonna be remembered as "that guy who spent the whole time touristing" are you.
phf: i think maybe it's worthwhile as an auxiliary exploration. you can run it and it will either confirm what you already understood, but sometimes it'll correct your understanding. either way you have to understand how sampling profiler works (particularly when it comes to sampling freq), to use it effectively
ben_vulpes: and heningerisms: "In this paper we demonstrate a complete break of RSA-1024 as implemented in Libgcrypt." https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/627.pdf
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678507 << "bit-smasher"? came in from ql just fine for me. i only use it as a crutch to beat strings into bit-vectors. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but theoretically this scheme -- while algebraic -- is as strong as the rsa used in the wrapping layer.
asciilifeform: anyway i'll omit steps 4-6 and leave as exercise.
mircea_popescu: kinda badly chosen cutoffs too, i don't specifically care re diff between 40 byte and 70 byte message. make it log on that side and do 16, 128, 1024, 8192 and 65536 byte messages, for 32, 256, 2048 bit hash lengths as a standard of testing.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-01 23:36 sina: if you write a systemd unit file with "User=0day", it launches the process as root. Pottering sez: "not a bug"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678431 << not only does it, but there is not even an interpreter in there as fallback ( see the old sbcl vs cmucl threads ) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: not "unix tool as it may or may not be used in the future"
sina: just as an example of "anything else?" re "depends!"
sina: as an example
sina: same as LuaJIT vs Lua
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> whereas gasoline generator only really works well as a 50kw+ item << Biggest problem with gas for backup genset is doesn't store well
mircea_popescu: you know, "Even asciilifeform " dun work so well here, you're basically living on a satellite as far as most kitchens are concerned.
asciilifeform: ~diesel~ works well as >50kW.
mircea_popescu: whereas gasoline generator only really works well as a 50kw+ item
mircea_popescu: nah, it's about what a serious setup costs. and if you do, might as well get serious.
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, mircea_popescu rides in ~same auto as asciilifeform even nao, runs on ~same batteries..
mircea_popescu: no power, no pumps (i live up on a hillside) and so i had the girls... fery water. from the pool, with ex-paper baskets repurposed as sacas, up the fucking stairs. ☟︎
sina: also: Complete break of RSA-1024 as implemented in Libgcrypt https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/627.pdf, "And 13% of RSA-2048 keys. Whoopsie!", "The new bit is showing that LtR sliding windows are a Very Bad Choice for modular exponentiation. Very nice."
sina: if you write a systemd unit file with "User=0day", it launches the process as root. Pottering sez: "not a bug" ☟︎
sina: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 << "systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day"
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, good party = no less than 60 females per 100, no loser/dork males present, good music not too loudly and some public fucking.
mircea_popescu: as far as the theory goes, at least. in practice, the preference was very much there, she was quite popular in the basescu years.
asciilifeform: ( probably the norm in usa also, otherwise it is difficult to explain why a colonel is paid ~same as a programmer )
mircea_popescu: you drastically overestimate the ability of the enemy, and this appears to you as slowness. think : all they could do, ALL they could do to anoint the obama dork was ows.
asciilifeform: it was never clear to me why that particular frog is being boiled as slowly as it is.
asciilifeform: because, at least as traditionally understood, every isp knows that it is really warez that keeps it alive
mircea_popescu: all this bakes in the momentary happenstance that the chinese've not yet run out of things to do. once that happens... "cost is no object" as they say. so there's an absolute cap on it anyway.
mircea_popescu: in practice, there's no such thing as a disloyal woman. just women who've not yet met anyone worth bothering with in the sea of schmucks.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 07:43 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/the-poofening-ether-huffers-suffer-price-flash-crash-as-opposed-to-more-frequently-covered-service-crash/ << Qntra - The Poofening: Ether Huffers Suffer Price Flash Crash (As Opposed To More Frequently Covered Service Crash)
mircea_popescu: as a woman ?
mircea_popescu: except brazil has more industrial base than ~all of europe, and that "per capita" is bullshit as half the country lives on a dollar a day.
mircea_popescu: ~the entire raison d'etre of portugal altogether is as "that place where black chicks from africa go to learn portuguese before being shipped to work in brazil brothels."
sina: I think at this point, given countries like Portugal which have decriminalised a lot of drugstuff, it's clear the lines for drugs is just as arbitrary
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may -- the notion that a drawing can be at issue is not only just as stupid as usual, but also crits. now you don't even have any sort of available "i really believe this crap" defense.
sina: we def got the wilting heat in summer, and little scorpions as you approach the equator
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677338 << hey we're a Commonwealth country so I can't blame you for thinking such but we aren't as bad as the UK on this front! :P ☝︎
mircea_popescu is sick of "famous people" like of crab apples. let them sit in some other latrine with their "oh i lost my pgp key 20 years ago" zimmerman and their "i dedicate my life to raising impudent street urchins as if they were white people" bernstein and their "oh hi, rng ?" koch and their "o btw, i lied about that laptop" rms everything else.
asciilifeform: ( or as rebaked by mircea_popescu , http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 20:37 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677344 << use of some specific datastructures (e.g. - and yes uni didn't cover yes - yes, shame on me - hashrings). as well as coding style (yes).
mircea_popescu: and so this was a learning experience for you, because semaphores as a concept ?
Framedragger: i don't mean easy as in lazy, i mean that there was no point for the historical bad to be so clumsy
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677344 << use of some specific datastructures (e.g. - and yes uni didn't cover yes - yes, shame on me - hashrings). as well as coding style (yes). ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ecl is a 'black art' incidentally. for instance, it runs 'backwards' voltagewise, with ground-as-positive, and needs negative supply ☟︎
trinque: can go into the sty, but avoid fondness for shit as a coping mechanism
mircea_popescu: a leg is as good as a twat for a blind bad
mircea_popescu: lot of adders as good as a multer for a blind bat naimean ?
mircea_popescu: (as an aside, i don't expect any of these fucktards, gilmore, bernstein, whatever, even remotely give enough of a shit about anything not tittlating their anal orifices, BUT! it'd help me fucking immensely if they actually were in, because of sybil considerations. but they dun wanna, becausew why should the world not stink.)
asciilifeform: 'The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.' also him
asciilifeform: as in, 3 orders of magnitude slower than others.
mircea_popescu: this sounds like engineer problem, really. make the multer same speed as adder.
asciilifeform: so adder, multer, etc, etc all exist simply as devices that hang from 1 set of wires. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in fact, no medicine yet devised bestows endless life as a young man ; and yet i can say sulfmetoxazole better for gonorhea than cough syrup.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
asciilifeform: '50k bullets', if useful at all, are only so as 'fleet in being' -- 'damocle's sword could Smite You Any Day Of The Week' etc
asciilifeform: ( all items breakable by particular $0day are to be treated as 'one device' )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 09:07 sina: once long ago, I ran a tor hidden service that allowed anyone to execute any command they liked on it, as a deanonymisation challenge
mircea_popescu: honestly, i expect the unix "Shell" is very much "poor man's ai". specifically "we can't get it to laugh at your jokes or suck your cock, but here's the best we can do, it's almost as if you're talking to it"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know this is strangely how "artificial intelligence" as well as "quantum computing" work out ?
asciilifeform: which is a comical pit of usgology, not a single item in the 'toolbox' actually works as described, or is based on anything other than wishful thinking
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re "how many activities" -- it's not so clear to me, and moreover the consensus of hardware farmers (as opposed to coders) is that there's not much reason this absolutely should be the case, other than, to quote, "largely a lack of originality in the types of commands executed".
asciilifeform: trinque: that was the original application as i saw it, btw
trinque: I'm curious about asciilifeform's 64bit DOS as a network-edge device.
mircea_popescu: sina sounds interesting as a prototype at any rate.
sina: once long ago, I ran a tor hidden service that allowed anyone to execute any command they liked on it, as a deanonymisation challenge ☟︎