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mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation Presents: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-July/000268.html
asciilifeform: neato mod6 !
mod6 waves
shinohai: ty mod6
mod6: you're welcome!
sina: tax lodged, off to get some dumplings and help a friend move stuff
sina: have a good day/evening tmsr
asciilifeform: in other lulz, here's a message to the fine folx throwing 'php 0days' by the bucket at phuctor : snoar
shinohai: lel
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AA47C094752F2F3F452921B9348A20B582CD5EC81B237FB5929CD947B981FBB9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1743...9567 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '59.18.113.26 (ssh-rsa key from 59.18.113.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown KR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AA47C094752F2F3F452921B9348A20B582CD5EC81B237FB5929CD947B981FBB9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1668...2737 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '59.18.113.26 (ssh-rsa key from 59.18.113.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown KR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6E4C26FC75C28240D34DBDB579FE9286E55CABF379E848725A31FF989FEA3224 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1739...7303 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.158.154.90 (ssh-rsa key from 212.158.154.90 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.mx-net.cz. CZ MO 801)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6E4C26FC75C28240D34DBDB579FE9286E55CABF379E848725A31FF989FEA3224 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1715...4253 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.158.154.90 (ssh-rsa key from 212.158.154.90 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.mx-net.cz. CZ MO 801)
asciilifeform: 0 php in'ere. promise.
asciilifeform: i have the barf scrolling on dedicated panel 24/7 and when some is 'new' it catches the eye.
asciilifeform: in other iron, http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15.htm
mircea_popescu: i dont think those folks read anything online. including their own barf. since 2004 or so
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/gRKpz/?raw=true
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2017 Report
shinohai: jeez I was lacking in lulzworthy submissions this month BingoBoingo
shinohai must be losing edge
BingoBoingo: Perhaps month was boring on news front? QNtra is not in fake news business
mircea_popescu: summer eh.
BingoBoingo: And forking isn't such news anymore
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, girlz got a gym membership ; and since it was included they set up nutritionist meeting. why the hell not, right ?
mircea_popescu: "yes it was today but we didn't go" "well we went, but it was like in and out" "yeah"
mircea_popescu: "what happened ?"
mircea_popescu: "nothing happened, the woman was pushing 300 lbs." "i'm not taking any nutritionism advice from THAT."
BingoBoingo: HAMpocrisy!
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/10E6BDFD1FF4DA57C469BA5626B007AB18B45CB7154CD91DC9A4D2FECCCD2E49 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1534...1963 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.209.192.89 (ssh-rsa key from 91.209.192.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (server23.drecomm.nl. NL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/10E6BDFD1FF4DA57C469BA5626B007AB18B45CB7154CD91DC9A4D2FECCCD2E49 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1770...5119 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.209.192.89 (ssh-rsa key from 91.209.192.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (server23.drecomm.nl. NL)
sina: asciilifeform: you should use this new shell https://github.com/mitnk/cicada
asciilifeform: lel
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673312 << https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*0L0vei31AKXnhV3yxjDfJQ.png "experienced traders" "honestly can't believe" (https://medium.com/@MattPrusak/an-ethical-dilemma-is-the-ethereum-bubble-amount-to-pop-3b020a866264) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 07:43 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/the-poofening-ether-huffers-suffer-price-flash-crash-as-opposed-to-more-frequently-covered-service-crash/ << Qntra - The Poofening: Ether Huffers Suffer Price Flash Crash (As Opposed To More Frequently Covered Service Crash)
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai: Poor experienced traderz
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4EAA17432C68EB5CA290AF87451BE59E9E12F433188D144751F2A9AE71A400F9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1621...3109 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '187.115.202.47 (ssh-rsa key from 187.115.202.47 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (187.115.202.47.static.gvt.net.br. BR MG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4EAA17432C68EB5CA290AF87451BE59E9E12F433188D144751F2A9AE71A400F9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1478...7663 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '187.115.202.47 (ssh-rsa key from 187.115.202.47 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (187.115.202.47.static.gvt.net.br. BR MG)
mircea_popescu: hey, teh value of a trader is directly proportional to how many dumbass shit they posted on reddit. totally.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger anyway, appreciate the wisdom of having all that idiotic bubbling consumer behaviour at the outskirts of bitcoin, and the unmitigated power and awesome finesse of actually implementing the wisdom.
Framedragger: yeah...
mircea_popescu: thanlks god for the magical alien lizard nazis of bitcoin!
shinohai: In other investment SFYL http://archive.is/o4JJf
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-01#1678068 << lulzgold, >> '...price of Ethereum Classic...product of a schism in the blockchain community last year, is not interchangeable with the main Ethereum blockchain. In fact, market commentators have predicted that ETC will more or less die off. While it has the same fundamental technology, ETC has essentially nothing to do with the mass adoption of Ethereum by recent projects (and the formati ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-01 13:25 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673312 << https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*0L0vei31AKXnhV3yxjDfJQ.png "experienced traders" "honestly can't believe" (https://medium.com/@MattPrusak/an-ethical-dilemma-is-the-ethereum-bubble-amount-to-pop-3b020a866264)
asciilifeform: on of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance) — yet the price continues to rise.' didjaknow
asciilifeform: schism!
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-01#1678078 << dun forget to Run Moar Winblowz ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-01 14:18 shinohai: In other investment SFYL http://archive.is/o4JJf
mircea_popescu: the crazy batshit they have to argue. "oh, ethereum is rapemeat but totally worth the money also ethereum never happened also ethereum has nothing to do with the enthusiams, also black chix code, also that doesn't matter, also"
asciilifeform: hey, whole point was 'parallel taiwanization' of bitcoin -- normalize tx reversion, 'buy-only' exchanges with periodic margin call sheepshave, etc
mircea_popescu: yeah, and it worked oh so well lmao
mircea_popescu: mit selling me its ips to pay for the ethereum.
mircea_popescu: vorwarts, soviets@
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu actually buy ips ? aint that rather like buying land in manhattan
mircea_popescu: turns out, when you attempt to taiwanize your master, your master instead taiwanizes you.
asciilifeform: ( or like those legendary trained horses, bought from gypsy, that walk back... )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's complicated.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, back in the day i used to specifically buy "trained whore", "will run back". they... never did.
mircea_popescu: nothing easier than to overestimate the strength of a length of chain. kinda what compsec turns out to be all about all the time also.
asciilifeform: hey, even double agents sometimes 'up valence' and triple
mircea_popescu: in practice, there's no such thing as a disloyal woman. just women who've not yet met anyone worth bothering with in the sea of schmucks.
mircea_popescu: granted, ips are slightly different. but not THAT different.
asciilifeform: i still wonder why ( afaik ! ) there has not been yet an open schism, where usg: 'ip X belongs to Y' but elsewhere 'no, Z'
mircea_popescu: ~because there's still agreement that that'll cost too much.
asciilifeform: soo possibly like the infamous 'nonmilitarization of antarctica' treaties
mircea_popescu: this agreement, much like the http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-111.0-117.724 thirld world head roach, are pretty much the fumes on which the usg runs today
mircea_popescu: wringing it away is worth it in and of itself, that's how you destroy the crown.
mircea_popescu: keep facing it with the easy money now dilemma. they ALWAYS make the same choice, which simplifies the management of their rape significantly.
mircea_popescu: all this bakes in the momentary happenstance that the chinese've not yet run out of things to do. once that happens... "cost is no object" as they say. so there's an absolute cap on it anyway.
asciilifeform: re ips -- microshit still gets what it wants 100% of the time, to date, when demands 'sinkhole this botnet c&c ip'
mircea_popescu: so far
asciilifeform: but usually the conversation is re a dozen or two, rather than blocks
mircea_popescu: the way net works in china, there's no owner for a bunch of blocks, practically.
asciilifeform: the 'sinkhole south america, it is a terrorist continent full of mircea_popescus' axe time moment has not afaik yet come.
mircea_popescu: the whole "private net" a campus is prolly the way of the future. "this is the US 4.4.4.4. argentina got a diff one"
asciilifeform: north kr is pioneer here
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- state dun just go away because we fucked their dumbass ipv6. they'll just you know, same shit, different node.
asciilifeform: the interesting q is why it has not yet happened.
mircea_popescu: zombie gotta has teh braaaainzzz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz stiff and shambling. but expect the shitty isps to start "experimenting" with it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already long time 'experimented', with zapping incoming ports etc
asciilifeform: but always halfhearted
asciilifeform: because, at least as traditionally understood, every isp knows that it is really warez that keeps it alive
mircea_popescu: a drepper shall be born.
asciilifeform: ( or else nobody would shell out for massive bandwidth )
mircea_popescu: by now, it's the govt that keeps alive both isp and otakus using them.
mircea_popescu: so ~moot.
mircea_popescu: if today people started dropping cable subscription en masse, the last mile isps would petition congress and it'd become illegal to do, like electricity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already happened. they simply jacked the price.
asciilifeform: ( of both ! )
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: that's because there's no inflation, happens naturally.
asciilifeform: oblig 'internet of the future' >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208
asciilifeform: it was never clear to me why that particular frog is being boiled as slowly as it is.
mircea_popescu: you drastically overestimate the ability of the enemy, and this appears to you as slowness. think : all they could do, ALL they could do to anoint the obama dork was ows.
mircea_popescu: did that look to you like it's capable of boiling frogs any faster ?
mircea_popescu: and it also degrades, pantsuit hilarity got no ows of her own.
asciilifeform: tru
mircea_popescu: all she got was a buncha black hos giving her a lap dance, once.
mircea_popescu: that's basically bottle service, can have any day of the week
mircea_popescu: and speaking of this, it's not JUST ows. the "gamergate" bs is also exactly the same thing -- "leaderless" because the actual leadership is both too pussyfied to actually step in front of the troops, and too fucking stupid to even sort out ideological difficulties and so make such stepping theoretically meaningful.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the imbecile redditard, who we shall name isis agora fuckhead for no apparent reason except obviously why, ACTUALLY BELIEVEs that it's all the rage and highly fashionable to be part of leaderless "spontaneous movements".
asciilifeform: this might be attributing too much reasoned thought to the fungal mass
mircea_popescu: any half drunk habitual rapist "soldier" throughout history could have summoned enoujgh sense, in the depths of his stupor, adding up five moments of clarity worth ten minutes dispersed over six weeks to figure out that "hey, the fact our so called army has nobody marching in front speaks poorly of its chances or human quality"
asciilifeform: is 'belief' actually involved, or just smooth musculature movement ?
mircea_popescu: yet these "measures of all things" exemplars of pure humanity, that honestly believe their heads are capable of any lifting, if they "just had the facts" hurr durr lol lol snort, nevertheless can't see far enough ahead to realise they're "leaderless" because their leaders are out and out bullshit, and for no other reason.
asciilifeform: and incidentally idiot peasants routinely joined up with 'movements' with ~0 leadership, got slaughtered
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform da fuck even knows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so they did, yes. OURDEMOCRACY is older than calvin.
mircea_popescu: (who, ironically, didn't speak too highly of it, either.)
asciilifeform: older than spartacus
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-21#1672909 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-21 14:25 mircea_popescu: and speaking of black chix code : https://www.google.com/search?q=Elena+Istode&tbm=isch
asciilifeform: wassat?
mircea_popescu: ro chick, secret service general no less, spent a decade organizing these "leaderless" bullshits in ro.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/35PKK claims '59106 ron' per y.
asciilifeform: that's, what, 500bux ?
asciilifeform: mega-general
mircea_popescu: about 20k
asciilifeform: i could see 20k for general of... mali
asciilifeform: but ro ?
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you. socialist state is poor and hopeless.
asciilifeform reconsiders changing professions to general of ro !!1111
mircea_popescu: why ?
asciilifeform: pay's shite
mircea_popescu: o, that's your criteria ?
asciilifeform: ( there was a 1990s gag shirt -- 'have you RECONSIDERED a career in computer programming' )
asciilifeform: phunphakt : american general makes not so much moar, see, e.g,. http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp
mircea_popescu: unlike the us general, ro chick made plenty.
mircea_popescu: i'd guess about 3-5mn during her tenure.
asciilifeform: carl force - style ?
asciilifeform: ( probably the norm in usa also, otherwise it is difficult to explain why a colonel is paid ~same as a programmer )
mircea_popescu: just about. who doesn't want to be friends with a hot blondy with brains ?
mircea_popescu: she can have whatever she wants, why the hell not. who else ? who'd you be saving it for, your own kids ?
mircea_popescu: meritocracy, let the kids starve.
asciilifeform: lolsaving
asciilifeform: they still have that o're there don't they.
mircea_popescu: well, here used in the general sense, "if elena asks for a car and you don't give it to her, you're saving it. wtf you;'re saving it for ?"
mircea_popescu: general sense lol. epic.
asciilifeform: lol this is like that Framedragger chix
asciilifeform: i am unaware of why this one is so great.
mircea_popescu: whatever, blondy.
asciilifeform: i'd rather roll up the money an' smoke it.
mircea_popescu: really ?
asciilifeform: theoretically.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this'd be why you dun have a network then.
asciilifeform: perhaps.
mircea_popescu: you understand that if you smoke it you're gifting it to mugurel yes ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, which is why i am not sitting here and smoking benjies
asciilifeform: but ~in preference~ to giving it to some rando quasihuman
asciilifeform: -- would.
mircea_popescu: what sense does that make ? the central bank is just a faceless distillate of all the population.
mircea_popescu: this one at least understands she's supposed to be naked.
asciilifeform: oh did she ?
mircea_popescu: well, hence all the bathing suit pix
asciilifeform: i didn't see any naked ones. but then again did not dig.
mircea_popescu: show me hilarity's. (no, not from now, from back when she didn't understand but should have understood.)
asciilifeform: these are prolly kept next to the launch codes and the rsa pill, lol.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: point being : the "i'd give it to the soviet comissar rather than to this woman" preference ain't supported.
asciilifeform: point was rather ' i can't see diff b/w here and commissar, same faceless face '
asciilifeform: *her
mircea_popescu: but this one at least understands (even if only spottily applies) that she's supposed to be naked. the other ones generally do not. this one is thereby above average and therefore the preference.
asciilifeform can picture.
mircea_popescu: as far as the theory goes, at least. in practice, the preference was very much there, she was quite popular in the basescu years.
mircea_popescu: i dunno anyone who'd turn down her rsvp.
asciilifeform: reminds me of that time asciilifeform went to a party and it was full of nsa colonels
asciilifeform: ( 0 chix )
asciilifeform: mega-snoar
mircea_popescu: honestly, i don't recall ever going to a good party states-side.
mircea_popescu: then again, i wasn't on the west coast ; nor do i have much patience for the flip flop and smoked out crowd.
asciilifeform not on west coast, and also does not
mircea_popescu: course our scoring criteria may diverge.
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, good party = no less than 60 females per 100, no loser/dork males present, good music not too loudly and some public fucking.
mircea_popescu: i think that about covers it.
mircea_popescu: oh, and good music = nothing after 2000, no electronica etc crapolade, none of the boy band nkotb idiocy, no faggots (michael, bowie, whatever nonsense with hats).
mircea_popescu: that also should just about cover it.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1516AE8196AC0C480EFDAFD40057777D7097D858A5DC3A58A35E0171ADC9942B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1380...5417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.184.54.202 (ssh-rsa key from 91.184.54.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (202.54.184.91.unassigned.as34225.net. NL NH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1516AE8196AC0C480EFDAFD40057777D7097D858A5DC3A58A35E0171ADC9942B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1608...3899 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.184.54.202 (ssh-rsa key from 91.184.54.202 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (202.54.184.91.unassigned.as34225.net. NL NH)
asciilifeform: oh holyfuq google nao has a 'report inappropriate predictions'
asciilifeform: 'hateful / sexually explicit / violent / dangerous and harmful activity / other' form
mircea_popescu: predictions ?
asciilifeform: in civilian wwwtrons with js, it offers 'predictions' when you type in the search box
asciilifeform: for maybe 7yrs now
asciilifeform: these are - or until recently were - mechanically derived from popular search phrases
mircea_popescu: ah ah
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> oh, and good music = nothing after 2000, no electronica etc crapolade, none of the boy band nkotb idiocy, no faggots (michael, bowie, whatever nonsense with hats). << Celebrate Victory with 10 Years of Van Halen!!!
mircea_popescu: ew
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2445.53, vol: 8083.60796697 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2404.804, vol: 3581.20542 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2368.3, vol: 12581.59897166 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2625.498525, vol: 4688.50560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2433.181, vol: 4603.92317997 | Volume-weighted last average: 2435.67290717
BingoBoingo: Not ew, just another struggle to achieve victory over! Or in program-talk "Another opportunity to work your program"
ben_vulpes: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evdd84/10-rich-families-are-paying-their-dollar30000-preschool-tuition-in-bitcoin << let the fleecing begin!
diana_coman: " luxury preschool " lmao
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if dell and microshit can pseudo-accept btc ( via usgpay ) wai not these.
asciilifeform: '...opened up a Coinbase account for merchants that allows the school to accept cryptocurrency payments from families and automatically convert them into US dollars...'
asciilifeform: no-scheme-too-idiotic to get usd-rich imbeciles used to usgbase 'wallets', cross-contamination of btcsavingsaddrs and usgspendingaddrs, etc.
ben_vulpes: what is this cross-contamination?
sina: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 << "systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day"
sina: if you write a systemd unit file with "User=0day", it launches the process as root. Pottering sez: "not a bug"
sina: twitter quote from @i0n1c: "Ohh the irony that boot sectors are writable in Windows to support anti virus software" reply from @WeldPond: "'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,'"
sina: also: Complete break of RSA-1024 as implemented in Libgcrypt https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/627.pdf, "And 13% of RSA-2048 keys. Whoopsie!", "The new bit is showing that LtR sliding windows are a Very Bad Choice for modular exponentiation. Very nice."
sina: weed is legalised in Nevada
sina: some interesting reading here, https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/06/27/hijacking-bitcoin-routing-attacks-on-cryptocurrencies/
sina: nothing further to report
asciilifeform: sina: the israeli d00dz with the microphone had this 3y ago
sina: which this?
sina: RSA one?
asciilifeform: and nao bernstein, henninger ( this is what, 3rd paper since she was attached to him ) 'unhappened and rehappened' it
asciilifeform: yes rsa
asciilifeform: Run Moar Nonconstanttime Bignum
asciilifeform: (tm)(r)