asciilifeform: apropos of nuffin at all, asciilifeform observes that on the street where he lives , + weather inescapably means the background sounds of the day are ~hourly 'ding' of dropped wrenches
asciilifeform: but with imaginary bulldozer, many succumbed to 'hey what could it cost'
asciilifeform: very rarely anyone goes 'perl' with actual physical bulldozer as in naggum's gedanken exp because actual bulldozer costs actual dough, and eats fuel which ditto, and produces immediately palpable mess
asciilifeform: grr can't find in o(1). but the unifying thread is, when tools of the 'soft' variety appears, all sortsa folx, not even necessarily stupid, became afflicted with the erroneous notion that they have '0 cost' because coad dun have mass and can be cribbed gratis
asciilifeform: you dun have those rubber-coated haemostats ?
asciilifeform: ( dun errybody own bag of classic surgical toolz ?? )
asciilifeform: i thought that's what haemostat is for!111
asciilifeform: i suspect errybody else also has 'that 1 use..'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in asciilifeform's planet vise-grip is used for exactly 1 thing ( when working on ancient auto engine, to clamp the old dead hood lift piston in place... )
asciilifeform: also unlike e.g. rms, asciilifeform even washes, even tho washing dun even directly bake any ffa...
asciilifeform: only in same way as whiskey distinct from beer
asciilifeform: i dunno whether organism ever fully recovers from perl. but been 'dry' for decade nao...
asciilifeform at one pt actually ~was~ 1 of the people naggum wrote about, who 'reached for perl like goebbels for pistol when heard word 'culture'' . then one day realized what it was doing to his brain and ~quit~ , like BingoBoingo quit drink, and never touched since
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892453 << today 'mythical', but in '98 or when it was he wrote , was in fact troo specifically starring perl. (today other crapola, and moar fragmented so not immediately pointable to as 'hey, perl' )☝︎
asciilifeform: sad thing is that most of'em never got snapshotted.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu had these ultra-compact pieces that i suspect would penetrate the biofilm of all sortsa thick heathens today, if they were still on the main pg
asciilifeform: 'They're sucking the blood out of the fiction, at 3$ an hour, and there wasn't enough fiction to go around to begin with. And since you are paying today for tomorrow's fiction, darn straight you want your rightful slice of it. '
asciilifeform was aboutta say 'hah, i threw out my last i686' but turns out nope, here's 1 runnin' still
asciilifeform: re still relevant for implementing linked programs and data compactly....'
asciilifeform: 'Implementing muLisp for the Intel 8086 was more challenging because the 1-megabyte address space was segmented into 64-kilobyte segments. The MS-DOS operating system reserved 360 kilobytes of that address space for its purposes, leaving 640 kilobytes for implementing and using muLisp. Awkward segmented architecture is becoming less common as memory costs decline. However, techniques for overcoming the limitations of short pointers a
asciilifeform: i dun imagine the colibri & ocelots changed much since then
asciilifeform: back when asciilifeform was spending his days putting robot arm through glass doors etc☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr i quite like the ancient pre-trilema, if you still have whole thing somewhere would be pretty great to read it off proper www, rather than usg's archive
asciilifeform: i dunno re palm, but there was (and remains sold!) a 68k thing that runs on the ti calculator
asciilifeform: ( this one also existed for cp/m and z80 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at least 4, there was a '-83' also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sadly 'mu' aint all that helpful for writing a hand-carved lisp -- it's in 16bit asm and has the segmentation bullshit intimately baked into it
asciilifeform: have that 1 somewhere also, but will have to be pulled from optical disk if someone wants it specifically
