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asciilifeform: and as of right nao it's the only ~complete~ rsatron we have, i.e. that knows how to bake privkeys
mircea_popescu: but rather, from what i understand, is taking finishing touches re reproducible builds, consisting principally of hunting for "Where does it piss in date or w/e ruining my sigs"
asciilifeform: i'ma prolly have to do ~this~ with own hands, too -- no one yet stood up and said 'i will'
a111: Logged on 2018-12-28 20:35 asciilifeform: diana_coman: sadly i do not know how to 'guarantee perfection'. all i know how to do is to bake maximally 'fits in head' and bank that the folx here will find mistake if it turns out that i made one.
asciilifeform: since we're refreshing chalkboards in war room, i'ma take the chance to summarize current level of ffaism. currently exponentiator is mature ( aside from the consideration where http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-28#1883687 , i.e. it's mature when ~other~ thinkingpeople have fit it into head and concurred ) -- i.e. runs fast enuff for many battlefield applications ☝︎
asciilifeform: if diana_coman is 'stuck on X, cannot move' and it is asciilifeform's X, i'd like to know about it asap.
asciilifeform: right; i'm mapping out which 'known and unknown edges' are mine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not ~just~ on that. also on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878240 and on a larger pile of [not entirely specified, and i suspect not entirely known] edges. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:17 mircea_popescu: so, she'll be doing client work with her own two hands, something i had every intention to avoid ; and we'll be looking at integrating cuntoo on the server side later on. there's some db work in the hopper also, but that's even further on the maturity vine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you have a concrete application in mind, i can spare an hour or 2 to bake
asciilifeform: and yes it worx. you give it a similarity matrix (i.e. 'what differences are important, in the order of their importance' in matrix form) and it produces an alignment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760563 ( napkin-level but working item i posted on prev occasions ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i posted a complete needleman in cl ( also a draft, rather than troo genesis, nobody stood up and said 'i want this' so shelved ) 2y ago, also.
asciilifeform: ( and i currently agree, really one ought not to have bins in vtrees )
asciilifeform: bin differ ? yes. but it was never made to current-day tmsr quality , i shelved it when mircea_popescu said it wasn't particularly useful
asciilifeform: i have wrong link, 1s
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 23:51 phf: asciilifeform: i don't have binary diffing even in prototype form, if you could adaize your needleman-wunsch i could add it to vtools, the way i did with diana_coman's keccak
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:37 mircea_popescu: i do not know, as i sit here, what the conclusion of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881988 discussion was, three weeks later. the man sits among a republic built on a certain methodology, aims to quietly use the exact ~other~ methodology, makes no prior mention of this, candidly references the latter as if it worked notwithstanding how howlingly it failed to work to date, on and on in this vein and at the end of it al
asciilifeform: ( in orig timeline also did not include problem of constant-time keccak, which i presently do not have, and neither anyone else, but is necessary to fill mircea_popescu's spec for the final product )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:22 mircea_popescu: finally, asciilifeform is working on rsa-based ssl-ism replacement (notwithstanding he ~seems to be~ working on any and all wank on the "side" during spare time he doesn't have and all that), which we want so we can finally move bitcoin off sheer cretinity and into cuntoo (and which is principally why we want sane db also, but as i said -- yet immature).
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884612 << fwiw i've ~exhausted the short-term milk of the particular side cow ( there's a disk snapshot & a recipe to post, but after that will be stalled for aeons ) ; ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this about concludes the state of affairs ; i'd like nothing more than corrections, disputations &c by they involved.
mircea_popescu: so, phf : how about you start clearly communicating yourself, beginning with a complete, correct and true to life adnotation of said discussion in your own hand, because this "ima go meditate on things until everyone involved forgot what i was meditating on" isn't a workable approach to intellectual life. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: l i have not the faintest what even came of the long avoided but eventually unavoidable discussion.
mircea_popescu: i do not know, as i sit here, what the conclusion of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881988 discussion was, three weeks later. the man sits among a republic built on a certain methodology, aims to quietly use the exact ~other~ methodology, makes no prior mention of this, candidly references the latter as if it worked notwithstanding how howlingly it failed to work to date, on and on in this vein and at the end of it al ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but really, it serves no one to let me suspect. i should know.
mircea_popescu: ave1 is, i suspect, silently working on gnating things -- which is fine and valuable except for the silently part. there's this tendency of lone wolf scientist to not properly report failures, out of an imaginary saving of time and resources this permits. it must be said that NOTHING could be further from the truth, nothing at all -- there's more to be gained from a properly reported failure to find than out of ten shiny succ ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked is evidently trying, hence feedbot, but evidently having trouble reconciling saeculum, which i'm going to let stand as such on the grounds that he's new -- even though experience shows that as a dubious idea [for all the eg one could possibly need witness how asciilifeform 's still in the swamp, so many years later]. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what ben_vulpes is doing these days, if anything (other than maintaining his logotron, whatever that takes). i would like to hear.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron seems lost in a bucolic paradise slash midwestern parochial nightmare of his own choosing. nothing wrong with this either, and unless i hear any better that will be the conclusion.
mircea_popescu: other than this, mod6 is taking time off, since mid-november. nothing wrong with this, but i'd like to see some conclusions at some point.
mircea_popescu: finally, asciilifeform is working on rsa-based ssl-ism replacement (notwithstanding he ~seems to be~ working on any and all wank on the "side" during spare time he doesn't have and all that), which we want so we can finally move bitcoin off sheer cretinity and into cuntoo (and which is principally why we want sane db also, but as i said -- yet immature). ☟︎
mircea_popescu: other than maintaining the deedbot infrastructure, trinque is working on cuntoo, which is a rather large piece and it taking a [difficult to predict] while is not by itself the end of the world ; but i'd like to see some roadmapping, tentative and subject to change as it may be, lest the effort degenerates.
mircea_popescu: hanbot is working on the mp-wp tree, and manages as she long has a rather largeish wetworks i'm not going to get into the details of.
mircea_popescu: so, she'll be doing client work with her own two hands, something i had every intention to avoid ; and we'll be looking at integrating cuntoo on the server side later on. there's some db work in the hopper also, but that's even further on the maturity vine. ☟︎
diana_coman: I'm all for the talk, certainly
mircea_popescu: yet -- it is not my business ; so i'm just going to count it as such, "working on pizarro" without further inquiry (and with the firm expectation that someone IS doing all that).
diana_coman: fwiw I can't say I saw a surprise so far in any of the april announcements; at most more of a difference of degree at times (i.e. the expected direction/action but to a larger/smaller degree)
mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it can be beat for mod work
asciilifeform: i'm satisfied with my proof that my e.g. mul, div, modexp, actually work.. which is moar than i can say for 'bc'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, i've found myself using ffacalc itself, on many occasions when prev would've used python or bc etc
asciilifeform: further upstack , i read http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884475 and was waiting for mention of free-radical scavengers , e.g. WR-2721 and other variations on the theme, but didn't find.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'd say moar, but mircea_popescu already formulated concisely, in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884378 . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 18:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a strong bias against proggies which try to be 'smart'
asciilifeform: somehow i used python for yrs as an adhoc calculator and had nfi this bomb were there.
mircea_popescu: well, i got other firepits to attend to, but what a great logmorning this has been!
mircea_popescu: i think it converges in B or B+1 by parity
mircea_popescu: no i mean daykin
asciilifeform: all i need nao is the proof that the thing needs F(B) turns of the crank to converge, where B is bitness of operands, and it's battlefield-ready.
asciilifeform: i try to find the goodstuff!
mircea_popescu: did i mention i like your treasure trove finds a lot more these days ?
asciilifeform: ( for some reason did not use the standard name for it, why -- i do not know )
mircea_popescu: lol. eh, i got some of those kitten scratcher things, can drill microholes on the cheap.
asciilifeform: 'for 20kbux, i DRILL OWN HOLE!'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: in moar mundane lulz, asciilifeform , after N-th vivisection of bolixtron, boots it up and finds that it turned into 'ordinary old crapple', i.e. no longer sees the card. thinks 'eh, shit', then -- remembers that it's a fuking '80s machine -- goes, cleans contacts. then finds, box again worx...
asciilifeform: hence why not so much interest, i suspect, in (misnomer, but) 'neutron bomb'
asciilifeform: aha, as i undestand brems gets refracted along same vector as the orig photon
mircea_popescu: i'm totally like one of those old war veterans upon hearing of new weapon
mircea_popescu: drill and polish, i'd say, rather than etch. smoother holes this way\
asciilifeform: asciilifeform bit his elbows raw going 'wai didnt i think'!111
asciilifeform: mysteriously (or i guess not, 'nobody does anyffing any moar'...) item aint (publicly) used for anyffin, afaik.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: only works on specified x-ray, i expect ? not exactly "lens" in the broad sense.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. each hole refracts by fraction of degree. )
asciilifeform: in other olds, apparently i slept through this, but in early 2000s some ru d00d actually built a ~non-grazing~ lens for xray. for pennies, at that. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can i has link to the story in question for completeness btw ?
mircea_popescu: i guess one doesn't strictly speaking need it for trophycase/tchotchkecase/whatever, give the slavegirls something to do, dust it biweekly. however books get infected.
asciilifeform: ( they're ~ungettable in usa. today i haven't any glass. tho i do have air scrubbers, like in museums.. )
asciilifeform: i remember when i first saw a bookcase without glass doors. 'barbarism'
mircea_popescu: fucking "localized keyboards". that's what i fucking need in the 90s, "let's make computers useful and accessible to the bureaucracy!" "imagine mp, vast fields of fat minnesota cows derping on the computer all day long!"
mircea_popescu: what, i ask you, WHAT is a worse stain than having spent a minute on the needs of the poor ? they're fucking poor for a reason! step on their faces, there's rich people that you could be helping instead.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 19:24 stratum: Right now, for the billions, I think it is probably better than nothing, just like easily popped household locks.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 13:21 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: all the race horses are dead. and we race , if you will, while dragging the carcasses around. so i prefer to go with the smallest when possible.
asciilifeform: feels hefty and nearly 'bakelite', like a solid 1980s periph. i can see why phf picked it up.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 05:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674891 << i've been using that one for a while, with a https://www.amazon.com/CST2545-L-Trac-Wired-Performance-Trackball/dp/B00EEFK5QQ trackball in the middle. i'm pretty happy with that setup. i've figured out how to get the firmware out of the controller, so i'm hoping to customize some of the keys (that are otherwise useless)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: all the race horses are dead. and we race , if you will, while dragging the carcasses around. so i prefer to go with the smallest when possible. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possibly i said this before, but i am not fond of arm -- it is horrendously ugly, complex, single-vendored ( the multi-vendoritude is an illusion, they all use same british turd mask ) . i picked it as 'best horse in glue factory' for the application, is all.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 12:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884340 << point. i suspect that a good chunk of the interest in old irons is driven by the sheer unfathomable depth of retardation of 'modern' comp
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884340 << point. i suspect that a good chunk of the interest in old irons is driven by the sheer unfathomable depth of retardation of 'modern' comp ☝︎☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883981 << I'll give it some attention this weekend. ☝︎
asciilifeform: when i first went to look for the thing, found that there's a whole underworld of vintage crapple people ( and 'amiga' etc ) , most of'em moved to using these things.
asciilifeform: phf i expect these will work in your 'xl' also.
asciilifeform: i'ma post complete recipe laters.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 01:15 asciilifeform: it aint that much good without the iron, but i would like the thing publicly gettable, given as i also baked a 'scsi2sd' config that eats the thing
asciilifeform: 'golden age' of usenet may have ended in '93, before i even got hands on it, but 'silver age' imho ended ~decade later. ( when usenet more or less disappeared entirely )
asciilifeform: apparently there were even multiple versions of the thing, i had nfi.
mircea_popescu: i dunno anyone actually bothered.
asciilifeform: i fughet what it was called
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: i guess would work.
asciilifeform: i suppose that'd work ( tho still no crypto )
asciilifeform: i.e. receiver puts up ftp ?
asciilifeform: a reasonably-mechanized process for distributing warez to one's l1/l2 might be useful, but i haven't yet devised one that dun break in annoying ways in the field.
asciilifeform: i have a half-written bot that takes a deedbot-style gpg wot decrypt and puts out a single-use emulated ftp login thing. but it is not alive, because gnarly in practice ( if single-shot, resumes dunwork; and no crypto, and prolly this is solvable but i dun have currently the time budget for massaging it )
asciilifeform: i mean on serving end.
mircea_popescu: when realised that i do not like the "community" enough to pump 1k/mo into it or anything.
asciilifeform: it aint that much good without the iron, but i would like the thing publicly gettable, given as i also baked a 'scsi2sd' config that eats the thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: i ask because i have a 9GB disk image from that bolix 'macivory' ( recorded using the 'alpha' from earlier thrd ) but am reluctant to simply put on dulap, soaking up bw for errybody