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lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 2 days, 5 hours, and 24 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SSwUv/?raw=true
mod6: I can confirm that approximately ".2" was said to be held in BingoBoingo's custody outside of the deedbot wallet. And I can confirm that I have notes that state that you paid mats .3, and to reduce the amount by .5 total.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 00:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'bigendian box' -- i invested in one of them 'asic emulator' mega-fpga thingies, it so happens to come with 2 ppc cores on board, can double as bigendism test system.
deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2753 << Loper OS - Finite Field Arithmetic. Chapter 12A: Karatsuba Redux. (Part 1 of 2)
asciilifeform: literally erry other ic on the 'ivory 3' board is stock ( save possibly for a GAL or 2 )
Mocky: before leaving for qatar I sold your 2 coins and then my own coin.
Mocky: yes, those 2 turned to cash in person
Mocky: in fairness, absorbed 2 coins choked on third
BingoBoingo: Uruguay may not be rich enought to eat a whole coin, but seems to reliably deliver 500 USD to any given bench within 1-2 hours of arranging delivery
Mocky: right. yeah was close to two months if not 2.
Mocky: I sold my coin for bank-transferolade and I thought I had mitigated the risk but 2 months later transfers got reversed
a111: Logged on 2017-03-01 19:34 asciilifeform: there is no way to practically compute this value without having a copy of the blockchain. and it also ends up being luby-transformable into any one of the 3 old tx if you have the other 2. a kind of perpetual redundancy in the storage .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doesn't it ever strike you as odd that the machine needs ~2~ journals, 1 on top of other ?
asciilifeform: ( even phuctor did! back when it weighed a GB or 2 )
asciilifeform: but yes, new ones you oughta be able to pull with 2 fingers
asciilifeform actually ran 2 printers into the ground since started ffa
deedbot: mircea_popescu paid mocky 0.2
mircea_popescu: !!pay mocky 0.2
a111: Logged on 2018-11-09 21:32 mircea_popescu: !!pay mocky 0.2
mod6: Which I've done a lot of before, but it's pretty unsteady. It gets tired having to look for new work every 6mos to 1 year.... although, I do try to switch mines every 2-3 years.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a fighting-shape mod6 is easily worth 2 or 3 asciilifeform's . i dun suppose you have a qatar to evacuate him to ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-15 15:37 mod6: Well, I take that back, not "all" the difference, but it certainly helped. Now, I've got to be in the fascist-tower daily, with a 2+ hour commute every day. It sucks.
mod6: Well, I take that back, not "all" the difference, but it certainly helped. Now, I've got to be in the fascist-tower daily, with a 2+ hour commute every day. It sucks. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment.
asciilifeform: btw for many yrs i've searched for the obvious simple gadget, a y-shaped thing that'd turn 2 or moar usb sticks into an iron raid. but still not found, dun seem like anybody ever made.
asciilifeform: ideal algo imho would carry at least 5 bit of entropy for erry bit of payload, and in such a way that all bits are 0/1 with exactly 0.5 prob.; and such that flipping one bit of ciphertext flips at least 1/2 of the output bits.
diana_coman: so to keep this fully aligned, I'll regrind the last 2 patches so that the docs changes are carried over as well; as a result: genesis = http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20170317.tar.gz; 1st patch => http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz; 2nd patch => using vtools & keccak instead of sha
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 00:20 mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K.
mod6: 2) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872126 << diana_coman I tried to leave you a note on your blog. But seems that you've based the genesis off of my vtron version 99994K, but there is a newer version: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig Which is denoted as version 99993K. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc thing needs a proper vesa 2.0 vga card, so this makes sense.
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell with naked eye, 'the war' 1) already happened 2) china won 3) at ~0 cost, in the trad chinese style
asciilifeform: i'll admit that i credit 'cincinnatus plowing with own 2 hands' approx as much as i credit king arthur
asciilifeform: phf: right, my current understanding is that presently ~errybody has a kludged vtron, but no one yet posted a 'canonical' variant that's 1) properly genesis'd 2) worx errywhere
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 14:21 asciilifeform: when i started ffa, i did not plan to bake any asm speedups at all. but there's 2 reasons to do it, eventually : one is that on e.g. x86/x64, getting the upper half of a word-sized multiplication, without asm, takes ~four~ MULs plus a buncha additions : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch11/w_mul__adb.htm#95_14
asciilifeform: when i started ffa, i did not plan to bake any asm speedups at all. but there's 2 reasons to do it, eventually : one is that on e.g. x86/x64, getting the upper half of a word-sized multiplication, without asm, takes ~four~ MULs plus a buncha additions : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch11/w_mul__adb.htm#95_14 ☟︎
ave1: In C there are 2 ways: (a) in the asm instruction, (b) in the register variable definition
asciilifeform: ( presently dun look like it's a gpg1-vs-2-ism )
phf: asciilifeform: you can also calm the fuck down, and post your version of gnupg, version 0.3.2, unsigned is fine, and we can figure out what the issue is. i'll look at the diff and see if 0.3.2 can be added to v.py as another file
asciilifeform: my orig worked with 0.3.2 ( which is poured into cement and i have no intention to 'upgrade' wtf lol )
asciilifeform: 0.3.2
deedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/linux-portability-part-2-exploring-musl-ifdefs-or-define-pdp_endian-3412/ << bvt's backtrace - Linux Portability, Part 2: Exploring musl #ifdefs, or #define PDP_ENDIAN 3412
deedbot: bvt paid BingoBoingo invoice 2
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 2 q's: how much pizarro btc were you holding in your deedbot account as of september 7, and how much elsewhere?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:48 mircea_popescu: and in the same vein : if i lose my fucking carkeys, my "prospective plan for carkey finding" doesn't read ANYTHING like "day 1 : look for carkeys ; day 2 : look for carkeys ; day 3 : look for carkeys ; day 4...".
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform strongly suspects that the idea of replacing '2 strong oxen with 1024 chickens' in the ~general case~ is a perpetuum mobile. witness the heathens and their 'cloudism' , it is a circus )
mircea_popescu: dork in question literally thinks he "is helping make the world a better place" by "helping men" "understand" "women". in the sense of "understand" from "you have to understand" in http://trilema.com/2017/mimi-metallurgico-ferito-nellonore/#selection-91.19-95.2 ; and in the sense of "women" from "what pantsuited hilarities all over boston would like to pretend the fillies are and do". very much something of the blood and bone
mircea_popescu: my plan looks like day 1 : look everywhere (no, that ~everywhere~ isn't a manner of speech) while taking breaks to ejaculate profanity and try and think wtf i did ; day 2 : hang all the servants maids etc in the dungeon and gets the hose again until i am satisfied by the account of each one as to how they've not lost my keys for me ; day 3 : get new keys, install webcams, gps trackers and etc."
mircea_popescu: and in the same vein : if i lose my fucking carkeys, my "prospective plan for carkey finding" doesn't read ANYTHING like "day 1 : look for carkeys ; day 2 : look for carkeys ; day 3 : look for carkeys ; day 4...". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 the two prongs of the problem seem to be, principally that you have a lot less time available for this than ~most everyone else, by a factor of 2 or more ; and secondarily that elementary tasks that should take an hour or thereabouts take you multiples, by a factor of 3 or 5 or who knows.
mircea_popescu: !!pay-invoice BingoBoingo 2
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc mod6 has 2 ( 3? 4? ) children, even. but soldiers on.
mod6: for #2: We keep the notes so we know what's going on with all the customer accounts, our ledgers, and general information about on-goings of the business. This is necessary so we don't have to log-spelunk everything. Logs don't work all the time, like right now, the logging for #pizarro is down.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's anyone's experience btw ? cca how long does it take to ~keep current~ with logs on a weekly basis ? << I do anywhere from 2 to nearly 4 hours a day on logs when rabbitholing is factored in
mircea_popescu: at ; 8. 2 hours preparing and publishing some data to give base to future rescue op.
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i still don't know wh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'bigendian box' -- i invested in one of them 'asic emulator' mega-fpga thingies, it so happens to come with 2 ppc cores on board, can double as bigendism test system. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. 2 boxes with opposite endianisms, can speak , via this algo, without any other endian-specific logics )
asciilifeform: formula was, there are 2 possible states, 'as it came' and 'flipped', and at most 1 of these can ever pass checksum
mircea_popescu: because whatever is there extra is padding. so instead of returning 6 correct records and discarding 2 records' worth of padding, you return 8 records, and let the application asking for records figure out that "6" means it needn't process 7 and 8
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's perfectly permissible to define, e.g., subtype foo 1 .. 40 of a 2**5 modular type that lives in 5bits; and catch the out-of-range eggog when reading it
mircea_popescu: !!pay mocky 0.2 ☟︎
diana_coman: that sounds like the "we can haz dinastyyy 2"
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of bvt from 1 to 2 << adatronics
asciilifeform: !!rate bvt 2 adatronics
diana_coman: fwiw those past few days I had to get back to some C/CPP code and there was this funny moment where I read some code adding 2 vars of different types and my mind went instantly eeeek
asciilifeform: there's exactly 2 ways to do it -- the above conversion mechanisms, or the stream (read nqb to see how) . cuz transmutation of data types is a specifically dangerous act, that is deliberately not made easy in ada
asciilifeform: 2) cd ffa/ffacalc ; gnathtml.pl -l1 -f -D -I obj -I ../libffa -I ../libffa/obj -p ffa_calc.adp ffa_calc.adb
asciilifeform: and even then t had to wait for 2 decades for his
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 16:22 mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~" as the something's an undefined symbol.
asciilifeform: ( how exactly to persuade idjit orc king to build semiconductors , when just 2 or 3 oil wells spoodge out moar moolah than entire taiwan ic industry put together )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a completely textbook case, aha, of 'we pulled on the duct tape and after 2 tonnes of pull it comes off'
Mocky: well power of 2 values i see
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was on the defaults. 2 GB rockchip and while not a trilema sized blog, bigger than most on mp-wp
mircea_popescu: 20 bux worth of paypal and 5 grand worth of web 2.0 debug
asciilifeform: there isn't very much remaining, fwiw: 1) evaluation of ave1's gnat (ch12) 2) barrett 3) miller-rabin.
asciilifeform: theoretically i'd rather have 1 pedal instead of 2, but emacs aint stable/uncrashable enuff for me to comfortably move in
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would not use phrase 'very fine' but it ~isn't~ elementarily botched, is all. there's 2^256 outs, 1 per in.
bvt: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/linux-portability-part-2-exploring-musl-ifdefs-or-define-pdp_endian-3412/
mircea_popescu: ideally also has compatibility layer, which allows it to import gpg 2.0 and 1.4 style keys (and converts them to republican format), verify gpg 2.0 and 1.4 sigs and decrypt gpg 2.0 and 1.4 messages (but not encrypt to them).
a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 19:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, how about this : let K being the key n bits long (say 512), and let f(x) = 2 * K[0] * x ^ n + 3 * K[1] * x ^ n-1 + 5 * K[2] * x ^ n-2 + 7 * K[3] * x ^ n-3 + 11 * K[4] * x ^ n-4 +...+ 3643 * K[n-2] * x ^ 2 + 3659 * K[n-1] * x + 3659. f(x) will produce a pile of bits, this pile is cut in half and xored together, the result is cut in half again. one such half is returned as the prng output ; the other such half
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?" "<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: nope. couldn't" "<mircea_popescu> sooo! what portion of this do you dispute ?" "<asciilifeform> that 'could have then' "
mircea_popescu: as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?
mircea_popescu: im not attached to serpent in any way other than in the following sense you're well fucking advised to pay attention to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here to make money. 2. s.mg is also trying, but as a fucking distant second, to be a "good" corporation, however that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about this, not in any deep sense, if the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
asciilifeform: lappy that sits plugged in mains socket for 8h while owner sleeps and then good for day or 2, is imho possible; just gotta ditch x86..
mod6: Speaking of hockey... played in another game. Wasn't nearly as out-of-shape as last time. No goals though, but 2 assists, 7 SOG, 1 Hit.
asciilifeform: hm trinque is Mocky currently in the deedbot rotation ? i missed his last 2 posts apparently
asciilifeform: so for bit 0 of w, h21 ^ f21 ^ d21 ^ a21 ^ 1 == w0, and if you want that w0 they gotta sum to same thing mod-2 , no matter what. but for the ~last~ bit of W, you have 79 whole slots ! that still only gotta add up to same thing mod-2 ! many more variants .
asciilifeform: btw if it aint obvious -- the denser the horiz. path across the pic, the ~easier~ it is to find alt-solutions to that line of the expansion (i.e. rearrangements of the input key that yield the same mod-2 summation when multiplied with that row of the matrix )
asciilifeform: it's funny, if only to me -- if author wanted to make the keyspace == 2**256, all he would have had to do is to drop a copy of the 256bit key into the expansion. but i can already picture the fatlogic, 'oh noez, that wouldn't do, will leak key via plaintext cuz not whitened'
asciilifeform: you will want a way to make use of 2+ fg (iirc you already have 2 on ea. machine)
asciilifeform: and you dun have to hardcoad it; simply replace Output(X, Y) := Rotate_Left(Input(X,Y), ( (T+1)*(T+2)/2) mod Z_Length); with Output(X, Y) := Rotate_Left(Input(X,Y), ( (T+1)*(T+2)/2) and (2**Keccak_L - 1));
asciilifeform: Keccak_L: constant := 6; Z_Length: constant := 2**Keccak_L; << so it's 64
asciilifeform: for instance, i have here 2 FG units i flew ~back~ from pizarro, they had been pawed by randos when ben_vulpes had his customs debacle. in so far as i can tell , they have orig firmware still, and by erry possible test they are virginal, but even i cannot say whether they're 'still FG' or not !
asciilifeform: really, 1) flatten the tree 2) group the constants together 3) xor the constants into one 4) eliminate duplicate terms
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, how about this : let K being the key n bits long (say 512), and let f(x) = 2 * K[0] * x ^ n + 3 * K[1] * x ^ n-1 + 5 * K[2] * x ^ n-2 + 7 * K[3] * x ^ n-3 + 11 * K[4] * x ^ n-4 +...+ 3643 * K[n-2] * x ^ 2 + 3659 * K[n-1] * x + 3659. f(x) will produce a pile of bits, this pile is cut in half and xored together, the result is cut in half again. one such half is returned as the prng output ; the other such half ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, we agree on the result but not on the formula, lol; your formula says e(2)=p(2) xor k(1)*p(1) xor k(2)*p(2) xor k(3)*p(3) xor k(4)*p(4) right?
asciilifeform: rsa & c-s (the latter, really a narrowed elgamal) are the only 2 oasis i know to exist in that desert.
asciilifeform: ( in the | 2^512 )