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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812886 << in actual industry ( as opposed to garage dope kitchen ) essential oils are extracted with supercritical co2, rather than petrochem ( i expected that ben_vulpes would know this ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect it will be same dynamic as with the battery-powered nicotine thing
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812888 << tools that ~don'twork , end up unimportant, as they are 'routed around' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812861 << observe how ~all~ farming in usa, was put under 'soft kolhoz' by fdr ( and at exactly same time, and for same reasons, as in old su into 'proper' kolhoz) and nobody alive today remembers any other kind of farming ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812870 << continuing with this, observe that obtaining alcohol is considerably simpler than prime pig or even 'californirast grade' pot ; and yet there is such a thing as a 200 $ bottle of whiskey ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812908 << i suspect possible case of 'never say never'; in usa there are traders in... whiskey securities; and 'arbitrary names' abound (scotch, bourbon, etc) ; possible that in e.g. californistan , old man ethyl will give way to the green leaf as 'primary dope' and same agricultural-financial mechanics will apply to the new as did to the old ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( iirc gentoo on dulap -- and then as supplied to s.mg -- was baked from a stage4 of same vintage )
a111: Logged on 2018-03-02 18:21 mircea_popescu: JUST SO, the bank ~sold~ people bills to itself. if you pay the bank $5, you get in exchange... a bill for $5, that you can give to the bank, as if the bank had sat in your restaurant and ate $5 worth.
BingoBoingo: Well, trinque They might be able to smoke it all day as price goes in the direction it does for robust agricultural commodities
ben_vulpes: and so the bankers will call on margin again and again as the marktomarket value descends.
ben_vulpes: it's entirely saleable as an input to industrial processes in precisely the same manner as nicotine is sprayed on cigarettes
mircea_popescu: outside of the imperial racket supporting it, ganja is worth exactly the same as usg's "intellectual property" or usg's "real estate" : ~0.
trinque: obviously there are other problems. if you want musl, you need ebuilds with musl patches. as it stands on stock gentoo, this means using "layman" which for the musl overlay, eats directly from shithub
trinque: mmmhm. they specifically called out gcc-4.x as excluded from glorious future.
mircea_popescu: anyway, be the details as they may : the original http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809921 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809793 discussion was looking at a trip 3x the size ; downsizing it (which seems unavoidably necessary for OP considerations) has the tucked in advantage that you don't specifically need to refinance, if you don't want to. so prolly should discuss in board what discounts do you expect to see pre and ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: exactly as stated : that some of the usable bipedal mammals will get a serial id ; the unusable will get nothing. there's no birthright to the lordship.
fromdeedbot: lol.. I have looked a lot into estomia e-citizen program as well
mircea_popescu: not so much as a prerequisite as a filter. reading helps you figure out if it's for you.
mircea_popescu: might as well pick a better nick.
fromdeedbot: hah, that’s good advice. noted…. As far as what to express specifically, I’m not sure exactly yet, but this has always interested me and I have waited long enpough
fromdeedbot: i would like to start as low level as i can without overdoing it
mircea_popescu: and this is also why ~nobody of any consequence reads any of them. i'd rather read engelbert humperdinck's introduction to greek philosophy. at least he sings, which, unrelated as it may be, IS WAY THE FUCK MORE THAN ANY OF THESE IDLE FUCKTARDS EVER DID. or will ever do.
mircea_popescu: the world will be either authoritarian or totalitarian ; and only one of those is livable (though to people living through its early dissolution phases, it seems altogether as if things are improving -- much like the case may be that preteen orphans may subjectively perceive their first few hours with their new status actually liberating. then dinner time comes, and wel... the unbearable sadness of solitude sneaks in. somehow
mircea_popescu: and that's what ultimately killed "music" (as particularly understood in the 1950-1980 interval) for schelling point-ness : the realisation that the only possible conclusion is cobain's ; and hence all the emo / goth / etc bs, tiptoeing around old man charon's boat.
mircea_popescu: ll be a condensate of hot topic and assorted politrucking, but it will be there, as a matter of course.
mircea_popescu: but seriously now, so there's 10k, maybe 50k inept kids in this vertical. do you realise that's less than the average vampire stories franchise gets ? and do you understand they are EXACTLY as useful / capable / potent / whatever objective measure of capacity to alter reality ?
mircea_popescu: and as far as "search traffic" is concerned, 99.x% of it is http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/cockworship-5.gif and so following.
asciilifeform: product of the seekrecy cult , which was every bit as bullheadedly idiotic as in usa
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812579 << it doesn't. however mythical beasts do not need to physiologically add up and live. on other hand, ~socialism-flavoured~ ( or with just about any other flavour, shinto-flavoured or confucius-flavored worx just as well.. ) fuhrerprinzip -- does work. ☝︎
asciilifeform: by the time of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757902 incident, whole edifice was more or less thoroughly hollowed out and had approx as much genuine 'leftism' left inside, as the stuffed heads in a hunting lodge have meat ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i guess. though i suspect it's a sad life to play the transvestite as only avenue to getting laid.
asciilifeform: dispensed because folx in the driver's seat are, as a rule , never so dumb as to actually drink the 'left' hokum. it is a lure.
asciilifeform: this was a lunacy dangled as a lure for idjits ('abolish rank in army!' 'abolish money') and dispensed with more or less immediately during ru civil war .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people -- read. ( and to some extent even in modern ru, this survives, it is actually possible to stay afloat economically there as a non-crown-anointed - i.e. not-'bestsellerlist' writer, even today )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, not really ; in the early gosplan days they even had competition, as alf aptly pointed out during some previous discussion.
mircea_popescu: the soviets of russia, much like the soviets of america, very insistently alfabetized the herd ; but lacked the electronic means to plug them in, all they had was electric. and as a result, "people's radio theatre"
ben_vulpes: perhaps i misconcieve of the industrial processes, and could benefit from experience, but i labor under the apprehension that there was "teh one su car, designed by su factory" whereas american product is "ten stanford cucks who think the exact same way writing the exact same banking app that chase will release as a feature in two years, written by their peers who took salaries instead of grahams
mircea_popescu: they seem indistinguishable to me, "marxism-leninism" or "awareness, eco-friendliness, blabla" serving as a specific sort of distance-only schelling points -- ie they only work at a distance.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 20:33 mircea_popescu: i dun recall EVER hearing "carolina is the suck" in local drawl ; but people from ohio will literally ask you "what, and you came here ?!" as if they can't conceive anyone who isn't born there being found there even momentarily.
asciilifeform: shops ? dun make me laugh. they have nfi re inventory of $thing-nobody-bought-in-20yrs even if you walk in. AND they automagically list 'orderable online only' in same catalogue as what is physically present.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall EVER hearing "carolina is the suck" in local drawl ; but people from ohio will literally ask you "what, and you came here ?!" as if they can't conceive anyone who isn't born there being found there even momentarily. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes, incidentally, i've noticed the people's subjective reported dissatisfaction is one of the best proxies for local suckitude. ~100% of romanians agreed that romania sucks, 1988, and as a result romania went from ~gabon to ~austria in 30 years. meanwhile columbia people agreed with themselves "they love their country", and columbia went from columbia to columbia in the interval. nicaragua idem.
phf: yeah, dakar rally for trucks is a european take on monster truck rally thing, not as larger than life over the top, but taps the same kind of feelings
asciilifeform: 'The "electrum dot com" scheme is taking that attack further: the scammers have managed to take control of the dot com domain, and they have developed a website with a slightly different design and logo. The authors have been claiming that they are developing a legitimate fork of the Electrum project, and that they are trying to improve user experience. The owners of "electrum dot com" went as far as to claim that they are "currently
mircea_popescu: also very large cacti count as "wooden" in this sense. but i mean gimme a break, yes wood is supposed to float, but not in acetone ffs.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the comments in heathen pits the last coupla times were so predictable, as to be imho complete snoar. but who knows.
mircea_popescu: i mean, that nut with the "mac on cheese on pizza awesum!" is actually adventurous and far sighted with reference to her peer group. sad as that may sound.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, odds are very much no women cooking in his life. it is universally my experience esl girls do not even conceptuialize such a miracle as "make your own food" is possible.
asciilifeform: but otherwise as-described.
asciilifeform: not as if the idjit who dropped it into the cement, had to pay
danielpbarron: Victims include developers at big companies such as Microsoft, Facebook, Eventbrite, and a bunch of Neet employees (probably used the same weak tool) << Guy thinks "neet" is a company?
asciilifeform: errywhere they turn into 'space for lease' (never gets filled, as prices are deliberately kept at lunar heights to keep rent up for remaining tenants)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 21:10 mircea_popescu: as it's not acctually correctly designed it 1) creates false sense of security ; 2) creates unnecessary byzantinism and "can't pop the hood on this"
asciilifeform: also the term 'self signature' as used in kochiana/rfc2440/4880 world , is misleading : if all that were signed were a modulus, one could trivially produce 'self sig' for any modulus/exponent that satisfy the rsa equation, incl. ones generated on the spot. 'self sig' in gpg world is simply attempt to tie commentstrings to keys.
mircea_popescu: my only concern here is whether this actually invalidates the e, N, comment republican format, as a rsa key format.
mircea_popescu: te as a thing-in-itself.
mircea_popescu: but it goes to show what seems to me actually an intrinsic failure of the ssh key format : the fact that it isn't self-signed (rather more generally, the fact that it "segwits" the metadata, having the whole authority mechanism separated from the actual key [and generally implemented as "this key has authority because $user emailed it to me"]) makes it very vulnerable to any failure outside of itself, and impossible to evalua
mircea_popescu: as you know, plenty of them have, as proven by recent publishments.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:44 asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most extant ssh pubkeys ( as scanned in the wild ) carry no comment.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812151 << iirc we had the thread; nonprime exponent is cryptologically equivalent to using the smallest prime factor of same as the exponent; the bits set in excess of this, simply help timing/radio/DPA attack to succeed ☝︎
asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control. ☟︎
diana_coman: so much weird in that set re key generation; many seem to have e=35 which sounds like one step further from "we like 37" (so why not 35, it's a number just as good as 37!)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, phuctor acts as a de facto ssh to gpg bridge now, can download the gpg style keys.
lobbes: But, once I learn to properly represent www as ASTs we can have the beginnings of a proper republican archive
lobbes sacrificed an old lappy as the proverbial 'public toilet'; loaded to the hilt with js-crapolade
lobbes: mircea_popescu: aye, but try that out for yerself; comes back as 0 bytes
ben_vulpes: esthlos: yeah, that's what i did and i think asciilifeform as well
asciilifeform: yea loox like old crapola with rubbish added as pill for idsen
asciilifeform did not immediately recognize any of the $lusers ; but did not look very closely as of yet
mircea_popescu: the one thing pantsuit kept saying early on was "oh, everyone is mp". this is not coincidental -- as far as the lost are concerned, we are literally all tulpas in one single solitary dood's head. because that's what comes out of their b&w camera when they try and photograph copper sulphate : the exact same dull gray as if ground granite.
mircea_popescu: looky here, and read this thrice and understand it thoroughly : the "no identity outside of wot" / "all sybil heads are sybil heads" works EVERYWHERE, not just where you realise it does. the circumstance that the sybil is talking to ~you~ does not get to a) corroborate with the fact that you have a strong idea of the self and therefore b) result in any practical effect. as far as they are concerned, we're all exactly equal an
asciilifeform: i have nfi if same orc% as rest of usa or not
asciilifeform: ( it is grinding out as we speak )
BingoBoingo: As as humid as it is here, I don't want mushrooms growing inside me. It's a river valley so everyone is assumed to be carrying histoplasmosis
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i sure as fuck won't sift through GB of spam to read strangermail
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i grasp the idea, they'll be denying even as the 'shower' door slams and the zyklon hisses
mircea_popescu: it'll be denied. and the denial will "stick" in the sense luke skywalker really has a "laser sword", for as long as you stay in battlestar galactica universe or w/e the scientology fanfic was. because, for better or worse, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: As long as your coins sit in an address that starts with the number 1 and you control the keys your are safe
BingoBoingo: steel: The way weird brokenshit like segwit and other turds that live in addresses that start with 3 work is that real nodes see them as "spend to any"
mircea_popescu: this is an absolute certainty. the only part up in the air is when, but absolutely, everything the power rangers do will get reverted, as a matter of course.
mircea_popescu: but if he reads the log as indicated, it's all discussed in therew.
mircea_popescu: trinque, i suppose his (intuitive, unexamined) idea is that the item's reversible and will get reversed (as it is, and will) and doesn't know how it'd work in practice.
steel: everywhere as in, scammy exchanges
steel: Now I am forced to buy Segwits being sold as Bitcoin
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/as-us-opioid-fad-continues-constipation-med-overdoses-now-a-thing/ << Qntra - As US Opioid Fad Continues Constipation Med Overdoses Now A Thing
asciilifeform: ( as in, oom-while-free-mem-exists. i suspect fragging )
asciilifeform: spyked: feel free to make a chan and test your bot, so long as i do not have to do anything
spyked: and of course, thing can advertise rss via pm as well. but I'll only post public details about the bot as soon as I'm fairly confident that it won't shatter upon douchebag's first attempt to exploit it.
mircea_popescu: eh, ssd disks aren't that expensive. this doubles as an effective ssd tester bed.
esthlos: mine does as well
esthlos: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-version-2/ << I'm using tabs as 4 spaces, and I see the code as <80 col. what's your set up?
pete_dushenski: as there increasingly are even today, i suppose
pete_dushenski: couldn't find this in the logs (so apologies if it's a repost) but holy shit is usg.btc scraping the bottom of the barrel if fatso karpeles is being resurrected as "cto" of privateinternetaccess (vpn) http://archive.is/XusOQ
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/acid-attacks-growing-as-a-cornerstone-of-new-ingsoc-culture/ << Qntra - Acid Attacks Growing As A Cornerstone of New Ingsoc Culture
mircea_popescu: anyway, re confession, the "I think it essential that I inform the investigation of a series of new facts concerning my moral-personal dissoluteness. I mean my longtime vice of homosexuality." part is, at the very least, truthful as far as anyone knows (and corroborated, histortically)
asciilifeform: 'Why do the anticommunist "scholars", both in Russia and the West, ignore all this evidence? Why do they continue to promote the false notions that no conspiracies existed and that Stalin, not Ezhov, decided to execute hundreds of thousands of innocent people? The only possible explanation is that they do this for ideological reasons alone. The truth, as established by an examination of the primary source evidence, would make Stalin
BingoBoingo: And to top it all off, as much as my walking speed has slowed today, THEY STILL WON'T STOP STOPPING ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ask god when your time comes, who they were. just as soon he's done with explaining turbulent flow he'll explain history to you, too.
asciilifeform: i suspect that if had had been slightly smarter, along the axis contemplated here, he would prolly be remembered as just another purged d00d, along with tuhachevsky