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asciilifeform: (this is sovok war machine design philosophy in a paragraph)
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909527 << drop gcc entirely ; drop all c code entirely ; rely on tcc as a scripting language to turn whatever snippets of c into object code that we haven't yet thrown away ; and for quick prototyping, where one's stuck getting a mass of 1mn shitlocs interop with 10k loc's worth of a whole universe ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: aha but if it's a given that driver is a monkey -- then the cab had better have no wheels.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno, as a factual matter i suspect a wouldn't is worth 9k couldn'ts.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 19:19 lobbes: After that, I'm going to start working on re-implementing the auto-bidding functionality (which will also be a vpatch)
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile ustards fucked the model, but this doesn't mean it went away as a model. quite possible the chinos get it, made themselves plausibly-denied federation.
mp_en_viaje: and might i say btw tha tthe new linking log scheeme is a fucking pleasure to use.
asciilifeform: iirc there was even a fella who flew, for yrs, not only w/out ticket, but... as pilot. ( said, 'hi i am pilot', no one asked for diploma for decade+ )
mp_en_viaje: tbh, the whole "border" thing is becoming mostly a joke.
mp_en_viaje: but this was the system then. which is what im saying, the face wank is an upgrade, not a new system
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909502 << you know, last i left the us, 2005ish or so, it was a fucking lulz... so fucking empty, i had to forcibly turn mexicana cab driver around, to get to the guy i had to give whatever paper to. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: a 'couldn't' is worth 9000 'wouldn'ts' eh
a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.
asciilifeform: imho the so-called 'civilized' world ought to have to answer re why it failed to produce a product like this. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 23:52 asciilifeform: in ru there are some decent microscopists ( not the 1 phf went to, but apparently others. ) for instance, very recently found that К1801 ( sovok 'pdp-11' single-chip ) was ~not~ in fact a photoclone of dec's (only the early '80s demo ver was!) but , turns out, entirely indigenous orc design, with coupla x ~fewer~ transistors and yet faster max clock
asciilifeform: incidentally, even a very brief look at the 1801 item confirms the troof of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896836 -- thing defo aint a 'and here is where the ameri-crystal does x' , it's a quite 'fits-in-head' object , very evidently produced from page-long spec of the orig instruction set ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform would luvvv to read 'ffa-style' incarnation of such a work, where the chip is 'built up' from empty space in ~hour-long chunks. but prolly this won't exist until asciilifeform writes 1.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ and before mp asks, yes it's combo of manual typewriter and ink pen, and no it won't in a million years ocr, other than by meat ( and is largely schematics / waveforms anyway ) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma mirror those scans, they dun deserve to live in a shithub
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack , the 1801 docs, pretty interesting document from 'techno-political' pov actually -- there does not exist a description like this (operation AND internals) for any reich cpu ever sold. certainly not as a vendor document under 1 cover (not speaking here of ad-hoc reversed tidbits) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. what you'd want is to 'self-host' (on iron built for the purpose) a lang where a c, ada, etc. compiler is 3000 ln.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 13:59 mp_en_viaje: basically, c (not the code, nor the language -- the UNIVERSE, all encompassing, the mentalities of all they involved, their cultural productions over the decades, the horses they used and the women they mounted -- the whole universe) is a wart upon reason. like a hemorrhoid or something. you take your wart to the doctor, he ties a string tightly around it and well... it falls off eventually.
asciilifeform: c is a pretty sad lang to write anyffin complicated in, ~especially~ a compiler (and c compiler is no exception)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 14:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909401 << whatever else can be said re bolix -- they had the Right Thing pill for this. 'yes you can build a c proggy on this iron; no it won't win you 'speed'.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909527 << currently i suspect that tcc & similar is a mirage; and that an actual serious solution would moar resemble the bolix approach, where you have a proper lisp and a ~compact~ + readable c-to-lisp ~in~ it for use with legacy crapola while-needed ☝︎☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i dun expect to ever get hands on a complete elbrus-2 or etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909541 << the published sores aint especially interesting, aside from archaeological pov ( if you have fpga -- yer product is only as clean as that fpga, and there aint any clean ones gettable ; and if there were, why wouldja want to simulate a pdp11 in it ?? ) ☝︎
PeterL: could one host a bin of the ave1 gnat?
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:19 trinque: his gcc does not build upon musl, so I have not. prodded him a few times about getting his to run on a musl box.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:03 trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there
lobbes: After that, I'm going to start working on re-implementing the auto-bidding functionality (which will also be a vpatch) ☟︎
lobbes: next up on my conveyor is to publish a vpatch for the auctionbot proper, as right now I've only provided the 'command router' it sits on. I aim to have that out by Sunday the latest
BingoBoingo: I lack direct experience in this, though I recall reading a few reports that the Confusious cancer was endemic in conversation among the washed.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 15:42 mircea_popescu: matches well that group of "transsexuals" who evidently enough are so preoccupied with cunt, they just want one of their own. about as "transsexual" as the compulsive gambler who buys himself a slot machine for his "den" is "transeconomic",
BingoBoingo: The lack of a strategy doesn't keep magic casino place on the coast with odd political status from happening.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 04:25 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at this pt i'm not even convinced that there ~is~, or could be, a 'chinese strategy', or 'they want..' -- these folx have not developed a with-what to want , whole edifice reduces to individual party-appointed directors' desire for miami
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a 'miamistan' in the essence is where the brass occupies self primarily with padding foreign acct , buying villas in reich, setting up their spawn to same, etc
BingoBoingo: Maybe shifting more into a Macau-istan
asciilifeform: re: current-day ru -- despite the 'pr' and the appearance of 'uppitiness', it is still a miamistan. the '90s did not actually end there.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 23:52 asciilifeform: in ru there are some decent microscopists ( not the 1 phf went to, but apparently others. ) for instance, very recently found that К1801 ( sovok 'pdp-11' single-chip ) was ~not~ in fact a photoclone of dec's (only the early '80s demo ver was!) but , turns out, entirely indigenous orc design, with coupla x ~fewer~ transistors and yet faster max clock
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 13:22 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909192 << ongoing for a while, hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817349
mp_en_viaje: that's such a particularly satisfying feeling when one's travelling.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 20:26 BingoBoingo: Follow up: Wants to know if anyone is hiring, informed him a couple datacenter places in Sao Paulo appear to be growing fast.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 17:09 PeterL: I run about 10 loads of wash a week, I don't want something that only handles one T-shirt at a time
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909338 << he has a point ; you're still paying the lambda heat no matter what method you're paying it through. 15k is 15k. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: not even limited to marksmanship. it's just a general... look, if you're gonna be the sorta guy who uses rifle, guess who you sleep with at night.
mp_en_viaje: if there's one dood in a hundred in whose case the gun's the weak link in the gun-gunner dipole, it's a wonder.
asciilifeform: nagant is a pleasure to shoot, btw ( if famously underpowered by modern standards )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: when sovok folded , usa market was awash in grade-a 'museum' small arms , for pennies
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:40 PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here
asciilifeform: ( iirc we had thread -- i started with a... cranequin )
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:35 PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909295 << he's got a hydraulic rotating platform, firing gau-8 HE shells. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909282 << at the very least a well documkented failed attempt will provide plenty of most informative tidbits. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not entirely arbitrary, there was a ~massive~ increase in bulk + documented wtf's at 5.0
asciilifeform: ( funny thing, it actually has a debug pin that pisses out microcode index of current microinstruction )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909271 << we picked 4.something as an arbitrary cutoff at some point illo tempore, through a mostly passive schelling / ad hoc agreement procedure. whatever the merits of the actual spot picked -- picking MULTIPLE ones is bad in the sense you get the downside multipled and nothing else. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: AND, with all the experience from ffa, you actually got what you need as a basis to actually make that megaspire work.
mp_en_viaje: alright, well, month's not bad -- by the time you're done with ffa you can start a mega-bolix series.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at least month -- there's a heavy piece i haven't even started yet -- keccak
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 13:59 mp_en_viaje: basically, c (not the code, nor the language -- the UNIVERSE, all encompassing, the mentalities of all they involved, their cultural productions over the decades, the horses they used and the women they mounted -- the whole universe) is a wart upon reason. like a hemorrhoid or something. you take your wart to the doctor, he ties a string tightly around it and well... it falls off eventually.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909401 << whatever else can be said re bolix -- they had the Right Thing pill for this. 'yes you can build a c proggy on this iron; no it won't win you 'speed'.' ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: i confess i had hoped this may solve itself ; but then again c evidently only attracts a certain kind of person. whatever it may be they ~say~, whenever it seems
mp_en_viaje: basically, c (not the code, nor the language -- the UNIVERSE, all encompassing, the mentalities of all they involved, their cultural productions over the decades, the horses they used and the women they mounted -- the whole universe) is a wart upon reason. like a hemorrhoid or something. you take your wart to the doctor, he ties a string tightly around it and well... it falls off eventually. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 19:58 mircea_popescu: bvt, http://archive.is/febOU#selection-255.67-255.135 challenge specifically offers you excellent entry point : there's a bunch of contact details available, what's "me" resolve to as a provision endpoint.
mp_en_viaje: just because the entire "mes" thing turned out to be a single dude who further turned out to be a moron does not immediately resolve the matter of whether tcc can be bent into usable shape ; nor whether it should be confiscated wioth a view towards such bending. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:03 trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there
mp_en_viaje: o heh, i'm a day late.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:03 mircea_popescu: "/* The count field we have in the main struct object is somewhat limited, but should suffice for virtually all cases. If the counted value doesn't fit, re-write a zero. The worst that happens is that we re-count next time -- admittedly non-trivial in that this implies some 2M fdes, but at least we function. */"
a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 14:29 spyked: asciilifeform, unfortunately 2GB (max. supported by motherboard) might still not be enuff. ideally I would plug in ave1 gnat build and use it to build a minimal system, but will prolly have to bootstrap the whole thing on another machine.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909246 << holy shit what the fuck's the point of all the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897508 / http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897508 etc etc shenanigans, if they don't fit in a fucking 2147483648 byteschunk! ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: tho i do find it interesting, that it is difficult ( unlike on von neumann cpu ) to write a fpga filling that 'worx sometimes'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 03:37 mircea_popescu: Mocky, there's a usg-reservation in mexico. there's however also the headquarters of the only military force to humiliate the usg at home to date, they pretty much conquered the old mexican lands well into arizona.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909192 << ongoing for a while, hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817349 ☝︎☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Follow up: Wants to know if anyone is hiring, informed him a couple datacenter places in Sao Paulo appear to be growing fast. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: In other olds becoming news Rodrigo of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-08#1840381 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847576 sent me a message out of the blue inquiring how the business is going. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: I've got a clothing fork on the balcony that holds quite a bit, but denim just doesn't seem to dry completely before dew falls i the night and gets it wet again.
PeterL: I run about 10 loads of wash a week, I don't want something that only handles one T-shirt at a time ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho would still be useful tho, to have a suitcase-sized item that can wash and dry a single shirt..
asciilifeform: granted you need a reasonably thick and airtight pot for this
asciilifeform: but it only takes ~100w for perhaps ~hour to draw a coupla buckets' sized vacuum
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 13:12 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902694 -> I always thought jeans were cowboy stuff, not miner; and at least initially part of the "waiting for the americans" i.e. a tribute to an imagined greatness; how it morphed afterwards into an uniform I have no idea.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-18#1909077 << I always picture arrays going left-to-right or top-to-bottom, like you would see if you tell a computer "for x in my_array: print x" ☝︎
PeterL: yugos are the ones who added a grenade launcher to the end
PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here ☟︎
asciilifeform: dunno where you will see a shiny one, outside of museum
PeterL: well, SKS is a pretty riffle when it is shiny
asciilifeform: where there was a d00d in old-style austrohungarian uniform but with old sovok rifle
BingoBoingo: The old women are upset so they say "bad for children" just like in old country. And new mayor of Montevideo hasn't even been on the job for a whole month.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: lol, is this the usual 'ohnoez, what if a legate from clintonistan sees a dead horse!111' ?
a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.
trinque: his gcc does not build upon musl, so I have not. prodded him a few times about getting his to run on a musl box. ☟︎
trinque: anyhow, my project here was to take a snapshot of a working gentoo musl, i.e. a snapshot of the work of others. I intentally kept myself out of the chain of custody of all deps.
asciilifeform: but seems like oughta be doable for a gentoo
asciilifeform: i was able to bake a musl 'busybox' linux for pogo in '15, but admittedly this was not a gentoo
asciilifeform: ( and that no one had baked a musl stage3 that could be worked from that had <5 ? )
asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand , orig problem is that the stage3 shipped a gcc6 ?
trinque: what I'd *really* like is a binary-reproducible gcc of any stripe, and to create an official image from that, have others duplicate
trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there ☟︎☟︎