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mircea_popescu: well, i do think to some degree your patch should be restated, but not in the sense of replacing it altogether
mod6: right right. but I think i put in some spaces in my code there for alignment. just saying, i'll stick to using four.
mircea_popescu: how are ~you~ going to do anything about it ? i set my machine to show them any way i want.
mod6: re: your comment about tabs of width 2 or 4; going forward, I'll use width 4.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i insist we must do the "by file touched" rather than "by lines touched" thing.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is also msvc widgetry. ☟︎
mod6: i would agree there, but on the basis that the comments are accurate in a technical sense. nothing worse than misleading comments or documentation, as we've recently discussed.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> specifically, imagine a future in which every line of code has 100 lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison) << I never thought of it this way.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i often wonder, do these folks also have two-metre-wide toilet in the house, so as to not miss ? << i lel'd
mod6: thanks for all of your comments this morning. I appreciate everyone taking a look at this one.
mircea_popescu: i don't particularly mind commented-out line tests.
mod6: yah, i better remove those.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm misreading this, but atm if neither high nor low is picked the code does spit out a sig neh ?
mod6: oh i totally agree. its just an old wart.
mod6: also, about http://dpaste.com/26VKRQG : I left the original code in Sign(...) in the } else { case because i thought it be necessary to have a default. if we don't have one, it forces the user to pick -highs -lows every single time they execute.
mod6: oh hmm. i think i put in some spaces in there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know ;/
mircea_popescu: mod6 you didn't do it because it wasn't in your code, it only appeared once i snipped a bunch
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/26VKRQG << re: There is no reason to test for both highS and lowS being set, because this is tested in init.cpp already, ... << For some reason I had it in my head that since this gets set in util.h/.cpp that both may become set at some point post execution if someone does something funny.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i'm heavily in favour of the 'fix only the lines we touch' school of thought. the whole point of pedigreed-vintage trb is that the totality of the changes we made is apparent to the naked eye.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> if (fHighS && (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)) <+asciilifeform> generally i like to avoid hastening ulcers if possible << yeah, i dont know why I didn't do this to begin with. Heheh.
mod6: Sorry about the spaces in there where I put in my changes, I can and will fix that for my changes. And yeah, I think post-release it may not be a bad idea to do a one-time-cleanup of all of that.
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, i deeply regret not having had the sense of s/ /\t/g back when i made the original genesis commit. but... who knew the future then, and sopmehow being true to source, providing untouched water seemed more important. heck, maybe it was, and the only reason i get to regret doing it is having done it, which keeps me from the more bitter regret of having done it.
asciilifeform: i included this because i have 10,001 copies of the tree and every single one is different and wtf
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a problem - i should have the source.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:53:23; mircea_popescu: blergh, i don't have the source.
asciilifeform: generally i like to avoid hastening ulcers if possible
mircea_popescu: technically mod6's variant, i only removed some spurious tails. but i think you're right.
mircea_popescu: ah. well i fixed the file i touched.
mircea_popescu: that's what i did.
asciilifeform: the way this kind of thing is traditionally handled, where i worked, is that you fix the lines you touch.
mircea_popescu: and i can't be the only one.
mircea_popescu: in honesty, without any exaggeration, i would estimate the barrier to contribution that whitespace-for-tab puts in front of me is actually larger than the barrier blindness put in front of chetty.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how i'd in any sense seriously do anything with bs
asciilifeform: because reading patches is serious work, i personally do not even have all that much time and energy these days, and other folks less still. i try to conserve it.
asciilifeform: fwiw i've deliberately refrained from munging whitespace or even fixing the asinine { } convention used in trb
asciilifeform: ty. i might actually have the stamina to read that one.
mircea_popescu: look, i can't use fucking space allignment. for one thing on some systems i need it 2space and on others 4.
mircea_popescu: i know ;/
mircea_popescu: <copypaste> i've even seen "security patches" where the patch was to make the stack bigger, even though the stack was the right size to begin with << mitigation amirite.
asciilifeform: i'd happily see the whole shebang reformatted, but this would destroy v-ability ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i often wonder, do these folks also have two-metre-wide toilet in the house, so as to not miss ?
asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i worked with a fella like that
copypaste: i've even seen "security patches" where the patch was to make the stack bigger, even though the stack was the right size to begin with
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kind of thing is pestilentially common in 1) microshit 2) folks who grew up on it. 'i'll leave a massive space on the stack so not to overflow because i can't count and also can't trust myself to put it in heap and remember to free()'
copypaste: i'll take a guess, seems like it's a signature, and 10k bytes is the expected length
mircea_popescu: blergh, i don't have the source. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 i take it back. it'll have to do, can't be introducing case now.
mircea_popescu: dude and he explained it to me once already. i'm like fixated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379490 << may i suggest either sticking with the "comprehensible" in which case say -hiDER -loDER or else go for shortness (i don't think you should) and call it -hs -ls ? this "highs" "lows" thing is worst of both worlds. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379483 << this reminds me of that "i'll be sober in the morning - you'll still be ugly" line. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 03:56:07; mod6: dear lord, i've had like 9 crackers with cheddar today and like 3 mtdews.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379446 << lol i wonder what'd be left of reddit if kids actually had to show up in school. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-01-2016#1378739 << yeah. and as i wait, so does the play wait. the itches i get aren't in any sense in my body, for i wash. they're in the body politic, all. ☝︎
copypaste: hahaha. yes i know what you mean.
copypaste: i'm 3'1"
copypaste: i have a high BMI, but only because my spine collapsed due to my condition which takes many inches off my height. but even then BMI is only 31. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "Jonathan Toomim:2016-01-20 07:30:02:oh darn, i already sold my bitcoin to pay for electricity a few days ago..."
BingoBoingo: same age https://i.imgur.com/Hokvwn5.jpg
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/X4uNtS.gif
punkman: "The Uber driver was too good of a person and decided to take a cash settlement instead of pressing charges. In his words, "...she was crying (and) said (she) was sorry for everything." I don't want to disclose the amount the driver was paid, but can say he could only use the money to pay his cellphone bill and maybeee his cable bill."
mod6: yeah, but i guess thats to be expected since these three are supposed to all be high-s.
mod6: dear lord, i've had like 9 crackers with cheddar today and like 3 mtdews. ☟︎
mod6: hey waddya know, i've got a block before btc.blockr.io
mircea_popescu: i can't see it anywhere. it never propagated past your next hop odds are.
mod6: i got another tx dropped on the floor. im also 2 blocks behind, so not sure if it cares.
mod6: i guess this is funny because back when I first started writing code, a hundred million internet years ago, i liked the first way better.
mod6: thanks for asking. i just went through my high-S enforcement code by hand, and i know for sure that I have an error in there. about to fix it and try that out.
mod6: no i haven't yet.
pete_dushenski: tbh i like yours the best. but i might just be partial to that gen because i sold a couple of 'em in my day even ;)
mod6: i guess im just happy that i have windows that roll up and heat. that old shitter that i got for free (basically) was pretty cold driving down the freeway at 65mph when it's -25 F.
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 19:27:41; mod6: no heat in the suburban, made appt. to have it fixed. showed up this am like "ok do your thing..". They said, "oh, can you pick it up tomorrow? we're busy...". Like wtf. It's literally like a 15 minute job. How do I know? Because I just did it myself instead and if I exclude the drive time to pick up and buy the part itself, ~15 minutes.
mod6: i need chalk board
shinohai: If it comes back with a version of "Bitcoin Classic XT" I'm done.
shinohai: But - needless distraction for I am sure you need to concentrate the real effort on this S value problem. >.>
shinohai: yup. still shows 9.99.99 in start and when I do getinfo
shinohai: Also mod6 re: version strings, placing flags first had zero effect so I probably did something wrong. :/ ☟︎
mod6: so anyway, i *think* that one is correct.
mod6: i need separate sets of eyes to review this logic part here for low-s:
shinohai: heh I need to verify
mod6: <+hanbot> eh, can't complain. got a sunburn, acquired another deskbox...speaking of which i'ma want to test trinque's makefile bonanza soon, may be firing derpquestions. << cool! i need some sunshine myself.
hanbot: eh, can't complain. got a sunburn, acquired another deskbox...speaking of which i'ma want to test trinque's makefile bonanza soon, may be firing derpquestions.
ascii_butugychag: which i don't.
ascii_butugychag: i even would like it, if i liked being in cars.
ascii_butugychag: but this is lunacy, i will build own car right after i build own woman.
ascii_butugychag: hell, i'd buy a soviet motor
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i think these pre-date the zamac thing
ascii_butugychag: and why the fuck would i buy a new one?!
ascii_butugychag: i linked to the motor.
mircea_popescu: well i guess there's that.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, i sure as fuck wouldn't use li ion
ascii_butugychag: actually i will point out, re: earlier observation, that the battery and motor are worth, using the free market (ebay) metric, 10k max
ascii_butugychag: dafuq would i do with such a thing l0l
mircea_popescu: "After working with Kevin for a few weeks, I was able to find a car that met my needs in Pasadena, California."
mod6: and a blaze stocking cap. nothing else i have in the jacket/hat department is warm enough for dec/jan/feb
mod6: if not wearing a suit (basically, weekends) i wear this coat: http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Mount%27N-Prairie-Buck-Soft-Parka---Naked-North-Blaze/0000000036897?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping%2Bsearch&utm_campaign=google%2Bproduct%20search&gslfah&gclid=CJrjq9y4ucoCFQesaQod8UgMTQ
mod6: it used to be that, i'm told.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> no fucking hunter in the history of hunting wore anything but green and olive drab << i wear blaze
mircea_popescu: i loved fallout, but really hated "tactics" and stopped bothering.