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asciilifeform: phf: mircea_popescu and asciilifeform appearently differ on this pt
phf: mircea_popescu: i care about the relationship for the stuff it can produce. i think i'm stuck in circular here. either i have nothing, and then the relationship have no value, but then this conversation is pointless. or else i have something, and the relationship is indeed capable of producing stuff.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 04:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is free to be as 'unpersuaded' as he wants. fact: his machine -- can overrun an array; bolix -- could not; his box -- crashes, cannot be examined or uncrashed (yes) -- bolix -- could; and various other aspects, well covered in teh logz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the interest of saving space, i'ma link to e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738171 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738149 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631545 . ☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 21:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881963 << the question here being, what exact assistence is this to be then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, phf i'ma leave thread alone for today and give folx time to cool .
asciilifeform: in particularly re mircea_popescu's earlier point.
phf: asciilifeform: there was already _one_ conversation, i made my _conclusions_. your adventage is that you can basically just rant in the open, make insulting fucking statements in "general direction" of those bolix whisperers. where's i lose by having this in public record. i told you as much _at the very beginning_. but you clearly shit on my efforts, i mean you have been saying as much in public for a year, so you don't lose anything
phf: asciilifeform: not your _effort_, your _rants_ but more importantly _this very conversation_.
phf: look i told you about the stuff basically as soon as i came back _from a photoshoot_, gigs of photos, need to be sorted through. i communicated as much. the whisperer stuff started way before i had a chance to do anything about it. i mean what the fuck. it's like "i'm the greatest bolix liberator, and everyone else working towards it is an obscurantist and a cunt, unless they blog their shit right now". how am i not supposed to take
phf: not only that, but _immediately_ after your started on the whole whisperer thread
phf: the subject. perhaps i should've made it clear that _knowledge gained this way is yours to keep_. in response i got constant, year long abuse directed _as i believe it was_ at least partially my way about whisperes and conspiracies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: appreciate, asciilifeform would like to avoid 'infection' with the sort of oath phf apparently took with his source
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's criticism is entirely troo, i got nuffin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu i'll be entirely happy if i learn that i dun actually disagree with phf .
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 21:08 mircea_popescu: your management of private communication is ~appaling~.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf only today elaborated re his behind-nazi-lines informant
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did revise to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881923 neh. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apparently i have magical ability to say 9000 times something and not be understood
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to summarize : if phf decides to Do Right Thing and gpg to asciilifeform the goods, then i'ma eat'em and whatever public output will not reveal his informant.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever put yer lunch inside a safe ?
mircea_popescu: and now im in the unenviable position of thinking about nonsense. look here asciilifeform : the man says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881968 and what am i to do ? remember that you're one of the principal idiots who decided to run their pizarro process throgh a encryptospitball, and before that you came up with the brilliancy that was "secret clauses" in pizarro nearly got ben_vulpes beheaded. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notbad.jpg
phf: asciilifeform: wait, what? i said that _our_ approaches _both_ are _0_.
phf: mircea_popescu: i act out of character once, and it's to my disadvantage. i got the original point, i didn't at any point expect that there's a way to avoid it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tho ftr brother faithfully shared with asciilifeform the rare chocolate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your 'how to piss me the fuck off' piece ? this is sorta the beginning and end of asciilifeform's version, were it to be written.
asciilifeform: i aint a hotheaded fella, have patience. picture how e.g. mircea_popescu would react, if somebody promised him item 'next weekend' and then for 13 consecutive months 'next weekend' with no intermediate debug output.
phf: _3600_ _pre-ivory days_
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 23:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe earlier, having concluded a few yrs ago that it is cheaper, easier, moar pleasant, to cut appart 'snap4' emulator (i have a pc build here ~with debug symbols~, comes apart in ida nicely) than to suffer with nitric acid and electron microscope
phf: asciilifeform: you're reading selectively. _i_ was expecting to see dirt yr+ ago, there was none. it was totally a waste of work
asciilifeform: phf: i aint in particular hurry ( possibly unlike mircea_popescu , who wants to emphasize the imho important larger point ). i won't even have time to properly touch the thing until finished ffa. but plz consider what i suggested today.
asciilifeform: and i dun hold it against mircea_popescu , then or nao, it's a talent, this , holding folx to account re their 'i'ma X'.
asciilifeform: phf: we currently have FG not the least bit because in '16, mircea_popescu said to asciilifeform 'you are wasting my time, where is product' so asciilifeform took little vacation and , magic!, there it was. i dun regret this. consider maybe also vacation ?
asciilifeform: ( and 99% of the case, is proving the case, ergo why i did not try an' ask mircea_popescu to buy box, cut it himself, etc )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 15:12 mircea_popescu: to write about divinity interestingly, one needs to be aware of a ~shitload~ more stuff than is available at oklahoma public library, is the thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to expand on the 'why even do this' item, from asciilifeform's pov it's entirely a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881419 case ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: so the principle is that any obligation outside of the republic is not only invalid, but actually anti republic? there can be no compromise on this point.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed dirt is just dirt, prior to excavating troy from it.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 19:15 mircea_popescu: and more generally, if it's a "oh, #trilema is item #608 on my list of 1850 vaguely maybe interesting items i found on the internet, among which i read to pass the time waiting for the bus or w/e" sorta affair forget about it altogether, there's 0 interest in supporting that kinda imbecility/pluralism/skepticism.
phf: mircea_popescu: i made that point in logs multiple times, having had a chance to look at a variety "gold chests"
asciilifeform: which is what mircea_popescu was referring to re 'dots'.
phf: mircea_popescu: what do you mean?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actual mechanical pinballtrons are rare nao, the last maker closed doors ~decade ago iirc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, the arcade machine people .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: puzzlers like those, make e.g. bolix look trivial ( consider, bolix physically exists and is sitting in asciilifeform's tortureroom , whereas beria et al's docs were afaik carefully burned ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea iirc i did say 'cannot resolve w/out timemachine' heh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not visible yet ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/19/a-week-in-tmsr-26-november-2-december-2018/#selection-105.764-105.817 << actually, a major bomb was dropped there, wherein long standing trb-immunity was revoked.
Mocky: fuck you mircea_popescu !
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ie, do they object money was flowing into trump or that it was flowing out of trump ? << US folks set these things up and set the to keep warm. If the kids don't fuck him at the end of life thing gets filled and kid gets to draw a salary and "philanderanthropist" job title on their CV
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so hypothesis then is that it was ablative coating on rocket of actual trumpfoundation?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that link was re lsd, where http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828187 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they object that he ( like other moneyed folx , and exactly like clitler et al ) tried to create tax fort for his heirs. nao heirs will get 0, and pantsuit 100%.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 16:47 diana_coman: awww, Mocky
mircea_popescu: diana_coman welcome to the horror of all time : a lot of shit to summarize, specifically driven by and existing specifically because previous efforts at summarizing.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman and yet google "built ai" which "won at go".
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "in there" where ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you're very likely right, i expect a major stone on nicole's back was precisely this : man re-reading has to reconstruct a cognitive structure. cost of this is 0 for man who's been reading and has it pre-built ; cost is small for man who lost it, but was there and knows how to build it. cost is immense for man that tries to learn how to build at the same time as building.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 18:57 mircea_popescu: which i stand behind, ftr ; and it is also what informs the "if they had any sense -- they'd be here" stance. the fact that rando can't cut through fetlife to find the meat / can't cut through internet to find trilema / can't cut through femstate to find bitcoin / can't cut through pantsuitism to find republic etc specifically means that rando is dull, ie, not smart.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ah, that makes sense, yes
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty detailed summaries!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/19/a-week-in-tmsr-26-november-2-december-2018/#selection-203.342-203.479
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 21:42 asciilifeform: 'John Mallery @jcmallery_cyber 25 Dec 2017 Declinism is a psyop of adversaries...it was spread before during the Vietnam war.' << ahahahaha gold
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 16:22 mircea_popescu: very much in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-14#795515 : NONE, and i mean it : not a single FUCKING ONE of these "government-sponsored oligarchs" have a penny to their name. every single one "powerful" of the democracy-socialism, be they a senator, a general, a "famous person", a "journalist", WHATHEVER they may be, made out, at all. not like bandits, not like anythings, they're as poor as church mice.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this. << This is. I'm setting up mp-wp for a lead danielpbarron directed to us.
asciilifeform: phf: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_peek_back.jpg , goes with the earlier
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 20:13 mircea_popescu: it's not even clever, it's the necessary and evident approach. which yes, is better than clever.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881556 << there may be a way to use the floor(2^k / M) ~quotient~ to determine the E . but i'ma leave this alone until end of series, it won't make a superlinear diff in the runtime ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: became 'foxconn' iirc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this particular item is stamped '91. ver. 1 came out in '86.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a reason i wrote the thing that way, with 'what's the minimum for rsa modexp without ANY accelerations', and only then with
asciilifeform: phf: i fear that it'll take an entire weekend to go through the pics ( plux i wanna redo whole thing with a tripod and macro lens, and the latter i gotta find ) , but to whet appetite, have a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_peek.jpg
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu or anybody else finds a 'clever' in ffa, plox to ping asciilifeform asap so it can be burned out with hot irons.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 19:50 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881357 << you know, it occurs to me that for someone who was http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816553 taped out, you got a lot of moolah to imperially throw about, stripper parties with special-ordered cross-coast stripper, whatnot.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 19:25 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i kinda went away with the same suspicion.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1802755 << did you walk that db yet btw ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 17:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, asciilifeform is not usually the 'Пастернака не читал, но осуждаю'(tm)(r) type. so yes tried to read.
asciilifeform: FZ_Measure as it currently exists, will undershoot the actual value for some inputs.
asciilifeform: it oughta be Index := W_Mux(Index + b, Index, W_ZeroP(W)); .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on rereading, i fear that my orig algo is actually ~wrong~
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 14:51 mircea_popescu: the exact same thing applies universally and throiughout. the world works a certain way, and it will continue to do so. if you build a blog on the strength of being interesting, you will destroy it with crap ; and if you build a reputation on being sane, you will destroy it with insanity. and so on. at no point is your "conviction" at issue (nor is it interesting, nor important). what's at issue is ~reality~, and reality does
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 07:29 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron do you have a bunch of readers interested in the quotes you figure, or what's the thinking ?
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/14b_peek.html << sneak preview of subj
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma add the above massaged ver to the mailbag sect of 14b.
asciilifeform: btw, FZ_Measure only happens 1nce during a modexp, and is around 0.01% of the cpu cost. but i'd still like to have the simplest mechanism.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 16:31 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it gotta crank Index forward. but nao that i think about it, could be equiv. : Index := Index + W_ZeroP(W) .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881459 << err, W_NZeroP ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 16:09 mircea_popescu: (i was also going to use the reference thing, but it dun fucking work, i end up with http://www.loper-os.org/#selection-5115.22-5115.37 useless junk
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881458 << this is known bug in my ver of mircea_popescu's script, i'ma fix it , but 1st priority is ffaism currently ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you mean
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it gotta crank Index forward. but nao that i think about it, could be equiv. : Index := Index + W_ZeroP(W) . ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Wouldn't it be (very marginally) cheaper to simply do what you did before, ie Index := W_Mux(b, Index, W_ZeroP(W)); ?
mircea_popescu: > Index := W_Mux(Index + 1, Index, W_ZeroP(W));
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this thing looks exactrly like argentina "comicon". bunch of braindead orcs, wtf. << Just about. Would be improved ~500% simply by moving it to the Kibon Pavilion or any number of other venuesfor beach proximity
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall yer http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 observation ? imho the christians divided by 0 when they nixed their ( whatever its problems at the time ) structure of authority. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835417 , orig via a mircea_popescu piece ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i find fascinating the parallel b/w ameri-christianity and items like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881006 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you oughta see the 'theology' pushed by some of the moar 'advanced' ameri-church folx. where jizzus... spoke english