assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15108 @ 0.0006915 = 10.4472 BTC [+]
jurov: "The first phase of the TrueCrypt audit project, ... covered the driver code, but "Windows drivers are complex beasts"
jurov: and it's easy to miss local elevation of privilege flaws, Forshaw said on Twitter."
assbot: It’s sleazy, it’s totally illegal, and yet it could become the future of retirement - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1jwpVNU )
jurov: anyone going in together? :D
jurov: “This might be the iPhone of retirement products,” says Moshe Milevsky, an associate professor of finance at York University
BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006915 = 3.5958 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: jurov: I could see it. Tontines make some pretty good stories too.
BingoBoingo: In related news, the botanical season of fall started today in the front yard. First leaves on the Sweet Gum tree changed colors in the past three hours.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How's the weather over there?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0006915 = 14.5561 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0006915 = 7.4682 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":376772} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":59335351233.86657} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:43:28; BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.0006915 = 24.894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00068887 = 3.8232 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well there's a popular and derpy for and than... just kinda forgot that niche existed
BingoBoingo in a time before Bitcoin resorted to truecrypt as a "don't you dare spy on my Win Box Dorm neighbors" measure.
assbot: 'Overweight' people seen as 'too fat' to commit crimes, study finds | UK | News | London Evening Standard ... (
http://bit.ly/1FGZbUE )
trinque: damn, that's one hell of an ass-overflow
BingoBoingo: trinque: Reports are the UK has a still worse Obeast infestation than the US
assbot: BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`683 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )
mike_c: srsly, all the more reason to bet no, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00068652 = 20.7672 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: Russia seems to be demonstrating *to the Middle East* that it is cooler head among the external powers.
trinque: it will be a fascinating thing if the US attempt to align the Middle East with itself - via some naive "we'll make them all South Korea and Japan!" notion - results in alignment with Russia, and even more amusing if the thing actually results in some semblance of "peace in the Middle East" down the road
mike_c: I think rubio is warming up for the next one.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: He prolly is. Wants to resurrect the McCain/Romney train since Santorum had to be skipped.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068286 = 12.4963 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: mike_c: The republican nominee field this year is awfully noisy. Rand is falling into his father's pattern, Lizards love Fiorina, and Trump is just a protest vote.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i imagine those people will put more into advertising it than davout ever did, and so will take over.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For a portion of the market, but like many other things at some point they will probably die suddenly
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:24:01; jurov: x.eur is for people who start with btc
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:32:23; ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
mircea_popescu: whatch five fucking minutes from the beginning "Band wagon" with fred astaire to get a fucking idea of what life in america still was, in the 50s.
mircea_popescu: hint : dude travels ON THE TRAIN with a pile of luggage. he tells the porter to take it all and put it in a cab and send it at so and so hotel. because he's a dude in the suit traveling solo and can't be bothered to lift anything heavier than his hat
mircea_popescu: today fucking airlines can't as much as not forever lose your bags, let alone SEND PEOPLE TO PICK THEM UP FROM YOUR FUCKING CAB!!!!
mircea_popescu: (except in turkey, where they do, and for this reason alone the united states should be a subject state of istanbul!)
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit world where i have to have valet slavegirls because everyone in it is an imbecile.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18370 @ 0.00068223 = 12.5326 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:34:09; phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:43:58; phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
mircea_popescu: easily a paragon of womanhood. above any big tits, hips, legs, blabla.
mircea_popescu: can do that, is a woman. can't do that, has shit to learn yet.
mircea_popescu: her fucking ankles aren't even touching. thighs an' that's it.
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mircea_popescu: But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim we wonder if he rode the goat ---- or if the goat rode him!
BingoBoingo: It isn't called "horny goat weed" for nothing
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:04:37; thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
mircea_popescu: and no, i'm not asking what alf means. i know what he means.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:14:50; ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
mircea_popescu: and yes they should rub it in. more every day, that's the only way the worms will get the point.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the one thing the usg does right.
mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: when boys start listening to their moms and acting with "common decency", the one thing they get is their asshole fucked like it were a pussy.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:16:54; ascii_field: and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.
mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.0006915 = 4.0107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.0006915 = 15.1784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 273 @ 0.00466302 = 1.273 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0006884 = 9.1901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12737 @ 0.0006915 = 8.8076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4082 @ 0.0006915 = 2.8227 BTC [+]
assbot: US woman posts #banvegemite rant online because she thinks the spread is racist | Daily Mail Online ... (
http://bit.ly/1jx8pZX )
BingoBoingo: ‘Ever since the 1950s-or whatever-vegemite has been a way to symbolically make white Australians feel superior to Aboriginals by literally eating their f*****g skin in a jar.’
cazalla: hate to admit it, but there is little more i enjoy that butter soaked bread with an inch thick spread of vegemite
punkman: the mech-bull is a stand-in for a sybian right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068651 = 4.5996 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "a woman that can not use her own body to extemporaneously exemplify grace has scant changes to sexual fulfillment".
punkman: chick was pretty good, most derps on youtube try to hold on using only their hands
mircea_popescu: the reason she's so good is because she puts no work into it whatsoever. just absorbs the bull with minimal friction.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be a perfectly fine (if negative) definition of gracefulness, and thus a fine way to measure it.
punkman: plenty of friction between bull and vulva
mircea_popescu: (the reason the thigh gap exists, anatomically, is exactly to provide insulation from work friction as seen there. her cunt's in the air throughout)
mircea_popescu: also the mechanical bull is specifically designed to defeat men, which is to say, humans who use force to compensate for a lack of gracefulness.
mircea_popescu: the thing with using force is that your muscles are dual controlled, there's a fine and a gross motor innervation.
mircea_popescu: as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
mircea_popescu: (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control)
mircea_popescu: and as the rider becomes unable to exercise fine control, he becomes unable to maintain balance.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.0006915 = 6.6695 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo:
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3008 << "The cops do not want you to die—as that brings major heat. They just want to shoot you so that they can feel better about not winning any fights back in high school. Dude, your hoodrat carcass is a pain in the ass to everyone, except for your mamma, who just won the "hatched a got-shot hoodrat" lottery, and will be cashing in on your dumbass."
mircea_popescu: it's not clear that an injured and disabled hoodrat is better.
BingoBoingo: At the present it is. As the Insurance to pay injured and disabled hoodrats bezzel depletes...
mircea_popescu: "On 23 August 1927, Sacco and Vanzetti were executed; in response, a 24-hour general strike was proclaimed in Buenos Aires, as well as many other capitals of the world. Several days after the executions, Di Giovanni received a letter from Sacco's widow, which thanked him for his work, and informing him that the director of the tobacco firm Combinados had proposed her a contract to produce a cigarette brand named "Sacco
mircea_popescu: & Vanzetti". On 26 November 1927, Di Giovanni and his comrades duly bombed Bernardo Gurevich's tobacco shop Combinados on Rivadavia 2279."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control) << Glycogen and ATP depletion. The nerves fire, but the only muscle movements possible are less precise.
BingoBoingo: Leading too <mircea_popescu> as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
mircea_popescu: and na/k imbalance and a bunch of other chemical issues yes.
punkman: do the argentines still celebrate Sacco and Vanzetti?
mircea_popescu: i doubt there's any argentine under 60 that has any fucking idea wtf brand of sardines that was.
BingoBoingo: na/k imbalance less of an issue unless sweating and the sweat is being separated from the skin.
mircea_popescu: "old school" hipsterism is being a communist nowadays.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00068337 = 19.4077 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: Also... Tesla Motors just unveiled a hatchback...
BingoBoingo: And at 5,400 pounds it outweighs a lot of trucks...
BingoBoingo: It's an electric fucking vehicle with a 550 watt stereo
mircea_popescu: this nonsense of "we wanna be more energy efificent so we're dragging tons of worthless electricity storage around" is getting ever more ridiculous.
BingoBoingo: Seriously might as well have a car with an RTG
mircea_popescu: "why carry two barrels of gasoline around worth 10 mega-fucking-joules
mircea_popescu: when you could achieve the same effect with two and a half tons worth of lithium poison
BingoBoingo: Range is still only 250 miles, but prolly less if you turn up that stereo
punkman: maybe the stereo runs on gasoline
BingoBoingo: They promise though that if it rolls over "It will land on its feet" because... batteries go under drivers ass and the car's body
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many actually remember the important role of the bash function in the development of later crucial bits of infrastructure.
BingoBoingo: On the one plus though it seems that HAD to bring back body on frame construction... I mean seriously... No way they would do something like this as a unibody...
mircea_popescu: it's altogether unclear to me how long we'd have taken to figure out the dpaste deedbot- mechanism if there wasn't this dpaste thing for bashes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00068223 = 12.6213 BTC [-]
deedbot-: imported: 5082594B795298BD62A00F4CAA5C799D12DAF5C6
BingoBoingo: Seriously though tubular titanium frame (carbon fiber shatters and no weight budget for containment, acrylic windshield, 100lb RTG, motor, plastic seat, passenger weight limit. Electricity generated at rest goes into home mains or rave lights. Top speed 25 mph.
BingoBoingo: Goind downhill, kicking the ground Flinstones style occasionaly
punkman: and then you tow it back up the hill with a VW?
BingoBoingo: Nah uphill you go 1/2 mhp, or push it up like a self propelled lawn mower.
BingoBoingo: On the plus side brag that you've had to buy tires more often than you've had to refuel
mircea_popescu: not so unlike bragging that you buy way more tissues than condoms.
BingoBoingo: More the opposites. Condoms cost more than tissues per load expended.
HeySteve: BingoBoingo just agree to build a bomb for some Iranians, take their Plutonium and give them back a shell full of used pinball parts
BingoBoingo: Then again Government Motors sells new Chevy Suburbans for the price of a modest Suburban house because cognitively paying that much for huge vehicle is cognitively less expensive than recognizing one let themselves get huge and doing something about it.
mircea_popescu: I watcher her eat a whole appetizer at a mexican restaurant along with an entree dish and a combo platter as her side. <<< ftr /me does this all the fucking time.
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Wrong isotope. That's plutonium 239. Absolute shit for an RTG, doesn't get hot enough.
mircea_popescu: there are people still walking around who watched me eat TWO full steaks for breakfast in alabama.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You fuck the energy out though, and... walk places...
mircea_popescu: black mamie-type waitress could not fucking believe the skinny white boy finished the first one, it was the size of her bosom.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I mean you have to figure the average reddit-mate gets a parking placard for their Autism and never has to walk more than 40 ft at a time again.
mircea_popescu: you should have seen the fucking disbelief on this middle aged woman i asked for directions yest. she was "you gotta take the colectivo, that's like... very far. it's unthinkably far. it's like... at least 50 blocks".
mircea_popescu: wtf woman, so you walk for a coupla hours. what of it.
mircea_popescu: splendid weather in ba too, like 20 degrees, pleasant sun down here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the city blocks here are reasonably scammy, there's like 10, even 20 to a mile.
BingoBoingo: Last night it was drizzling yet pleasant temperature so went to take a short walk. half a kilometer out started raining hard by no wind or lightening so figured I'd enjoy the sidewalks to myself.
BingoBoingo: Fuck even in small town here only fit 4-8 blocks to the mile.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068223 = 8.255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, in the 4 blocks to the mile world her disbelief'd be a lot more at home, but ba is way denser than that.
mircea_popescu: in fact i did cover the distance (naon 3500 to corrientes ~7k) in about an hour give or take.
mircea_popescu: "When she's done I take her back to my place and initiate foreplay because I have to fucking get swabs if I want optimal prophylactic medical treatment for my dick area."
mircea_popescu: he actually expects sympathy for that pile of nonsense ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously, like peak fucking reddit narcisism.
mircea_popescu: myeah. apparently dad never told him you're supposed to be charitable with women on the first date ?
mircea_popescu: "The smell was far worse mostly sober, but through a lot of "hand"iwork I was able to get three months of doxycycline and bactrim along with fluconazole and a single dose of some weird IV shit and an ointment. "
BingoBoingo: Almost seems like a troll post to see how... Retarded Retardid is...
mircea_popescu: can you even take doxycycline for three months straight ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly, but... imagine c diff and worse would follow.
mircea_popescu: tb courses are six weeks. pneumo courses are four weeks.
BingoBoingo: If that long. At that point they'd use another drug.
mircea_popescu: when sigounrey weaver fucked that alien she didn't get 14 weeks of medicine for it.
BingoBoingo confesses he posted the work of fiction to see how retarded reddit in general is
BingoBoingo: I put together all of their tropes into a horror story.
BingoBoingo: Because reddit is outside the Republic, needs fucked with.
mircea_popescu: dude who're you fooling. this was that pinoy mail order bride wasn't it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18656 @ 0.00068175 = 12.7187 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: It's actually what I think about the Tesla Model X
mircea_popescu: "Bonus: The part where I was turned off by her weight turned her on. I have never felt more sexually vulnerable in my life than in the aftermath, thank god nothing was viral." <<< lolz.
BingoBoingo: Since it wouldn't be wort diluting qntra shares over a derpy hatchback I decided to try writing reddit soup.
mircea_popescu: "Being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness and disease." << this is actually true.
BingoBoingo: I mean even bidets don't have the pressure to get everything down there if one is shitting 'Murican sugah shits
mircea_popescu: clearly b-a was integral to my well rounded practical education.
BingoBoingo: Gotta include known parts of their folklore
mircea_popescu: you know, i think we're watching a meme being born. some nutty reddit comment, probably ALSO from a fake acct,
mircea_popescu: and by next week it's gonna be "fat people are notorious for doing" something no fat person probably ever did before.
BingoBoingo: I wasn't the account with the answer. I started a fire, but not that fire.
BingoBoingo: I mean you gotta figure... If your shit is too sticky for a bidet... The shower offers greater pressure...
BingoBoingo: Then again hose showers aren't really a 'Murican thing
BingoBoingo: -mquin- [Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out
http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ << Prolly a good time for people with near perma-connected bouncers to login and log off because Freenode tracks last login time...
BingoBoingo: And seriously. Is there such a thing as a REAL reddit account?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8092 @ 0.00068077 = 5.5088 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I don't see any Reddit accounts in deedbot
HeySteve: about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose?
BingoBoingo: Namecoin's not exactly a critical piece of infrastructure but it seems to have been shitgnomed
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose? << To get spent from, it is the ultimate verification
BingoBoingo goes to bread hopes everyone was sufficiently triggered
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:25:00; ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2013 02:03:43; mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes."
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2013 20:20:24; mircea_popescu: without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2013 02:25:44; mircea_popescu: my impression of the general truecrypt population is that they're not particularly more secure than average
mircea_popescu: course the 20 yo geniuses involved have nfi of anything so they don't know this either, but whatever.
BingoBoingo had a hypnagogic realization every good internet meme has started with a troll. Also prime numbers ending in 3 where 3 is not preceded by 2 are mauve.
davout: mircea_popescu: tbf i'd probably advertise x.eur a bit more if i didn't have to wait days for x.eur holder statements
mircea_popescu: you never had to wait all that much once you asked for 'em!
davout: the point is i really shouldn't have to ask
davout: i'm not saying it has to be automated
mircea_popescu: i can't in good conscience propose that the contract may be renewed when i've not even heard from you.
mircea_popescu: this may even be ridiculous, but it's still what i'm stuck with.
mircea_popescu: there must be a minimum of attention available. it is perhaps true that if you didn't even have to show up once a mnonth for it you'd have more attention available to promote the thing. it is an unpersuasive theory.
davout: nobody is proposing the contract should be renewed, the contract itself is here, stands and describes the instrument, that's how i read it
davout: "2.3. Settlement. Upon the Settlement Date, which shall be the 15th day of every month at noon GMT,"
davout: "(a) The Exchange will compile a list of all contract holders, identifying their registered GPG signatures and the number of contracts held, encrypt this list and forward it to the Market Maker."
mircea_popescu: you seriously propose that going "oh hai" once a month is too much service here ?
davout: is that what i'm proposing?
mircea_popescu: for instance : last month, the stuff went unrenewed for about two weeks. two weeks during which you didn't complain about the matter. this, not because I didn't notice. i had noticed. i was actually getting ready to announce that the x.eur thing is discontinued.
mircea_popescu: the moral of that experience isn't to complain at me that you weren't around for a while. the moral of that experience is to be around. it is after all your flagship product as far as i can tell. treat it like it were.
mircea_popescu: and yes this includes scheduling your vacations, divorces and funerals around the 15th of the month. it's that important.
davout: what i'm proposing is that the contract is pretty clear, and that me hanging around #b-a and keeping up with it, is important, but nonetheless absolutely orthogonal with it.
davout: if you want to make me requesting x.eur holders list a part of the process that's fine, we'll update the contract
mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so if you're wondering where the X is, as you should be wondering at any point after noon on the 15th, and it occurs to you we've prolly not heard anything from you in weeks, one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc, and one of the better solutions is to fix whatsoever fundamental problems that led to your misallocation of time towards reddit or w/e the fuck. because otherwise the rift this allows is bound to
mircea_popescu: maybe i got special mental needs or something, but to me all this seems obvious.
mircea_popescu: and i still dunno why if im friends with the cto of some company i gotta read from random spamsite about financing events at some company.
mircea_popescu: i can't even follow how or why this seemed like a good idea.
davout: thought i had talked about it in-chan, guess i didn't
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.000685 = 15.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11607 @ 0.00068077 = 7.9017 BTC [-]
davout: mircea_popescu: "one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc" <<< precisely what's been happening
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10520 @ 0.000685 = 7.2062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00068469 = 35.9462 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: davout rly? i had to wait 2 weeks for my x.eur delivery because yoou were.. pouting?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.000685 = 3.3908 BTC [+]
jurov: why else did you wait?
jurov: i have to ask mircea for stuff too... but it's 3-4 days max
jurov: he does not process mpex deposits or withdrawals automatically, must be asked to often
jurov: i ask after 3-4 days max
jurov: and can't understand why would you wait 2 weeks
davout: never waited two weeks
jurov: so what happened? you asked, but he did ntohing?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13704 @ 0.000685 = 9.3872 BTC [+]
davout: i asked for september's settlement holders list on sept 21, and I got it shortly afterwards, and you were delivered shortly after that
davout: that i have to ask, despite the contract clearly saying the exact opposite is something that is apparently obvious to everyone but me
davout: in direct contradiction of 4.1 of said contract, btw
davout: anyway, the fact that deliveries actually occur in much less than two weeks(tm) is what ultimately matters to me
jurov: i think mp was talking about 2.4 d .. that "tacit agreement" means you being around and alive
davout: i read "tacit" as "not requiring being explicit about it" not much more
jurov: time to clarify, i guess
davout: to me, the "davout is dead or unresponsive" case is covered by the "market maker's deposit"-related parts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00068113 = 2.6224 BTC [-]
davout: jurov: i think everyone's thoughts are pretty clear now
funkenstein_: and damn that ICD-10 or whatever AMA idiocy you linked BingoBoingo was an eye opener. Official policy appears to be that top level doctors and surgeons are to be treated like morons.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:10:24; mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.
funkenstein_: like, what would that even mean, "women-centric"? Perhaps that as a man you would move in at your mother-in-law's place and take their name.
funkenstein_: An arrangement that doesn't sound too bad to me, having a house given to you as well as babysitters and cooks
funkenstein_: meanwhile chiefs, warriors, politicos, doctors - still were most always male gender
funkenstein_: houses being passed on to the daughters is the main reason anthropologist use the word "matriarchy"
funkenstein_: anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best
funkenstein_: people don't have to give a shit, nor crack a book. but then bringing it up as if they did give a shit doesn't seem productive does it?
funkenstein_: today i saw "alf" written in small fluorescent green letters on the side of greek orthodox church
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mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best << not obligue at all. see "common decency" comments.
mircea_popescu: and ftr, what i mean by "women-centric" is that the sorts of concerns of women (pain avoidance) are priviledged as societal goals. this is both harmful to society's prospects of survival as it is harmful to ALL individual members, overall, of both sexes.
funkenstein_: aha, perhaps something like a "the world is a loving mother and will take care of you" attitude?
funkenstein_: i heard his father, on his deathbed, said something like "do you think [Wilhelm] has any musical talent?"
mod6: <+funkenstein_> mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial! << yw
punkman: mod6, can haz graph with the 3 patches I sent to ml? curious how that'd look
mod6: I might be able to throw that together. my version should be out for testing in the next week or so though if you just wanna wait. it'll build the whole graph for you with wild patches.
mod6: i'm trying to wrap up all these automated cucumber tests & loose ends on some stuff.
mod6: at this point, what it'll do is build a whole graphviz dotfile and output that to stdout or a file. the only part that it wont do (because you have to install `dot' separately) is for example: `dot -Tsvg <dotfile> > graph.html`
mod6: i guess i could add a method that'll check if dot is installed, and if it is, then will generate the svg html file for you... but *shrug*
mod6: like i said, loose ends :]
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mod6: oh and also, your vpatches won't be added until after the release... so the graph will look a bit different with your 3 vpatches.
mod6: like alf and I were discussing last week - we're going to create a release vpatch that will take all leaf edges and tie them up with a new release vertex.
mod6: then yours will be added after that.
punkman: mod6, release patch means every other patch you had not in release breaks though
punkman: I don't see why it's better than release being a manifest with a patch sequence
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mircea_popescu: o hey, redditard crowd finally catching up to 2013ish mpoe-pr, discovering btcjam is a scam ?
lobbes used to work with a guy that would come into office everyday talking about his btcjam 'investors club'; couldn't talk sense into the guy
mircea_popescu: "The mistake is in thinking this has anything to do with the money. It's said that most at home traders fail, but this is incorrect: they fail at making money, but they are successful at feeling like a trader."
lobbes: ahh yes. This rings a bell
lobbes: that is essentially spot on to his MO. You could tell it was an 'emotional high' for the dude
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mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 14:51:53; mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".
ascii_field: it breaks the 'come to expect' of some folks, likely. but it ~correctly~ displays flow.
mircea_popescu: but the thing you referenced was specifically maryland ?
mircea_popescu: you can't propose x theory is exemplified by y trend when the core of y is different from the elements of x.
ascii_field: i was speaking of overall neg-pr campaign against municipal police in all if usa
mircea_popescu: but blacklivesmatter is a maryland thing, and the "arrest usg twerps" is a "other states than maryland" thing.
ascii_field: btw when usa folk think 'black', generally this means urbanscartissuefolk
mircea_popescu: iirc, the entire "arrest feds" thing was arizona -nm-texas.
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mircea_popescu: the notion that blacks matter in la... get off it. it's all hispanics.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i feel like there is southern black people here, but Georgia is mainly rednecks.
ascii_field: they matter in the sense of keeping poor whites out ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Atlanta has a lot of black folk. But Georgia as a whole is mainly rednecks.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller afaik (mebbe out of date) georgia has the largest black population of the union
mircea_popescu: it not being a terribly populous state, this makes the percent markedly higher than say ny or la
mircea_popescu: doubt anything else is even over 20. maybe mississippi
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:49:18; mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.
thestringpuller: yea it's number 3 but there are more in surrounding states like missipi and LA (the state)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is never about the pop % ! it is about cities
mircea_popescu: eh it's about telling stories. how the heck wouldja infer that "at cia's pleasure" either.
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ascii_field: the real estate racket conscripted these folks to make prime city areas uninhabitable
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that aside, your theory was that the entire black lives matter narrative is somehow "at cia's pleasure" and for the purpose of countering the "arrest feds" movement.
thestringpuller: black people cared more about the death of MLK than JFK...
mircea_popescu: i conflated because it seems to me you're generally just post-dating any event that happened to "cia's will"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if you think about it, 3 mn is not really all that much.
ascii_field: recommended, 'death and life of great american cities' (jacobs)
ascii_field: short version, proto-usg squeezed out poor white catholics, who were slow to 'get with the program', from urban centers, with 'population replacement' gambit where 'housing projects' were built and filled with lumpens
mircea_popescu: what remains here is : a) that the usg is very vulnerable, has always been, and far from a "you can do nothing to us" a top guy is killed every few decades, and the lower agents get popped daily.
ascii_field: fact is, poor whites are virtually absent from urban centers. whether martians removed them, or something else, can be debated. the demographics - not so much
mircea_popescu: and b) that there's scant relation between the raping of the usg in the states as per the marijuana thing ands the raping of the usg in other states as per the blacks thing
ascii_field: ^ among the most hated men alive, but in great health!
mircea_popescu: this is like observing that beggars are absent from the countryside.
ascii_field: re: the dope wars: wake me up when dea agents are packed off to jails for enforcing their laws, and convoyed by state national guard if need be
ascii_field: (will be mega-interesting in d.c., as it has no national guard proper afaik)
mircea_popescu: (something along these lines is the reasonable expectation re the breakup.
ascii_field: those are here at the pleasure of lizard cathedral.
ascii_field: including the hard work of properly terrorizing whites to keep real estate expensive
ascii_field: we are looking at a crafted system, no less than so than a pentium
ascii_field: but through pipes, put there with purpose.
ascii_field: usa is a 'divide and conquer' affair from the very start.
ascii_field: when slaves were set against the 'indentured men'
mircea_popescu: for one thing "usa" did not exist from the very start.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, formulate example of 'usable' hypothesis here ?
mircea_popescu: "usa" was the brand name a few disparate centers of population and of a few slightly more coherent centers of production used for a brief interval between two european wars.
ascii_field is taking 'very start' to refer, as it conventionally did, to the english colonies of 17th and 18th c.
ascii_field: shorthand for 'the lands which became modern usa'
mircea_popescu: there WAS, briefly, a thing called usa. it started cca 1905 and ended cca 1960
mircea_popescu: it was replaced by "the us", but much in the way things changed from the pre-brejnev soviets to the post, it is now a label to distance oneself from.
mircea_popescu: nobody seriously professed a hatred of the usa, or professes a love of the us.
mircea_popescu: pushing a point, but no, even the teeth clenching arabs were in love with the usa.
ascii_field: i suppose this is a technical, mircea_popescuing sense of 'nobody', where million half-imbecile schoolchildren singing the anthem don't count as 'body
mircea_popescu: "According to a 2004 Harris Interactive survey, nearly two out of three Americans (61 percent) are unable to recall all of the words to The Star-Spangled Banner"
ascii_field: this is a passing mark in this day and age.
ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian
☟︎ mircea_popescu even vaguely remembers the rsr anthem, notwithstanding that we DIDNT actually have to do it in school.
mircea_popescu: i mean these ppl do not understand wtf an anthem's supposed to be or what is this toothpaste.
ascii_field: i for one find it to be the only musically bearable one i've ever heard !
ascii_field: i suppose 'different stokes for different folkz'
mircea_popescu: for instance. but there's dozens of perfectly passible ones
mircea_popescu: even their current one (wacth am rhein iirc ?) is good.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2014 00:55:48; asciilifeform: a 'kinder, gentler' tontine, where you don't have to plug your rivals, just help them forget to check their mail
jurov: we are nearing the inevitable stage when everything will be in logs already
jurov: no, talmud is therealbitcoin mailing list
mircea_popescu: btw, since all the cia talk necessarily leads one to thinking of waco :
mircea_popescu: anyone familiar with the antics of the victims there ?
mircea_popescu: like, for instance, the one time that dude vying for power with some other dude DUG UP A CASKET
mircea_popescu: and challenged his opponent to a RESURECTION CONTEST ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it was the very textbook example of usg powershow modus operandi - pick on the borderline retarded, preferably ones who practice voodoo to a degree repugnant to the tvtronic public
ascii_field: polygamy busts were (are?) also popular for this reason
mircea_popescu: oh right. how about the time when "it was decided" only the one schmuck can fuck, and the husbands of the women involved are to be liek you know, celibate now.
mircea_popescu: which i guess describes the us as well as it describes polynesia, sure.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that this nonsense sexual stellarity is all that common in practice.
ascii_field: these were nucleation points for 'militia movement' in the '90s, which was, afaik, five parts usg provocateurship to one part genuine, if imbecilic, organized rebellion - which had to be nuked
mircea_popescu: i do not for a moment believe the ridiculous antics of nutty neoprotestant biggots in rural texas are a nucleation for anything.
ascii_field: we are discussing psychiatric picture, not reality as such
mircea_popescu: you are attempting psychiatry on an undefined, noncorporeal entity ?
mircea_popescu: "After the ceasefire, the Branch Davidians allowed the ATF dead and wounded to be evacuated and held their fire during the ATF retreat."
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is, that the "marginally retarded" (which they were) had the usg agents so badly beaten it was fucking ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: in fact anyone even survived to tell the story because these derps allowed it. could just as well have executed the entire bunch.
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mike_c: yeah.. my available gaming time is down to nil right now. Busy working on a sekrit project.
☟︎ ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if they had massacred the fbi troops, the likely response (according to some sources, it was already in the works at the time) was aerial bombardment until nothing moves
mircea_popescu: the likely response would have been exactly what argentina response is in similar to scale incidents
mircea_popescu: "areal bombardment until nothing is ever mentioned again in the agitprop press"
ascii_field: and when the now-appearently-sovereign little enclave starts minting methcoin, polygamically rogering nomenklature daughters, and sheltering assassins ?
mike_c: bombardment like bombs? seems unlikely they would drop bombs in texas.
ascii_field: mike_c: ever consider what national guard is for ?
mike_c: so this would have been first time ever?
mike_c: national guard is for sending to iraq when they run out of regulars
mike_c: well, cw1 didn't have bombs
mike_c: not aerial ones at least
mircea_popescu: if you're thinking an ailing, falling under its own weight bureaucracy - not even this one in particular, any one - is actually brimming with the virility of youth and ready to escalate until nothing's left you're seriously from a different movie.
mircea_popescu: old men put all their all into their first scream because that's all they got.
mircea_popescu: you scream louder and that's the end of the fucking story.
ascii_field: that bus mats rode in was full of emasculated old men ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, i have had opportunity to try this in the field : when i maneuvered teh demonstrators around the "security cordon", they didn't do anything. they fell back. cuz wtf were they gonna do.
mircea_popescu: this is universal. if the hrt team gets blown to bits, they run off. what fucking "aerial bombardment", you think that's how it goes, someone feels like it one day and that's it, go ?
ascii_field: strong state does not degenerate to a point where you can ask this question.
ascii_field: which is why usg is not considering what part of texas to bomb today.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:02:22; mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly like saying cca 1915 that "you don't expect to ever live to see computers and if you do you'll prolly be on the side of polishing the casings".
mircea_popescu: this is broadly missing the point, because the sides you'd know about pre aren't a good representation of the sides that actually exist post.
ascii_field: i'm not sure there ever were, or could be, more than two sides of the menial labour counter
mircea_popescu: it's more complicated. the benefits that acrue from living in a sane society are not directly apparent in insanity-land. best one could tell the porter of 1950 was way happier than the bill de blasio of 2010.
mircea_popescu: in any case, i know that if it were possible to never ever run into either an idiot or idiot droppings, i'd gladly carry cases for the rest of my lives.
mircea_popescu: i sorta feel about these like i imagine you feel about rats.
ascii_field: i don't really distinguish the quadripedal and bipedal rat
mircea_popescu: According to the FBI, Steve Schneider—Koresh's top aide, who "probably realized he was dealing with a fraud"—shot and killed Koresh and then killed himself with the same gun.
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha yeah, that is SO VERY TOTALLY what happened.
mircea_popescu: magda realised she's dealing with a fraud so she killed herself and her kids. logic!
ascii_field: 'I asked a professor for help with a problem. He talked to me for a bit and then said “You’re having trouble with this problem because you don’t know anything and you’re not working very hard.”' << win
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:42:57; mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.
mircea_popescu: your proposed "not pashtun" is not equal to my actual position! nor even very similar.
ascii_field: roughly, 'unable to be herded by police like cattle' ?
ascii_field: or is there some problem with this heuristic
ascii_field: wrote the little bit about 'extracting your will cock from its scabbard' etc
ascii_field: he also had 'there are pigs... such as you, the reader... then there are jackals, who will eat your carcass when the collapse comes... and there are - or were, human beings. you have almost certainly never met one and never will, reader.' (translation mine)
mircea_popescu: it's really not that rare. just uncommon to be speaking english.
ascii_field: 'The police major—perhaps in mind of the nationwide spate of police killings by thugs—decided to speak to this loitering person. The content of the conversation is not yet known. The cop did tell the idiot to show his hands. The idiot refused to show his empty hands. The cop shot him in the leg—I bet that shit hurt! The major then took off his own belt and used it as a tourniquet and the last I heard the boy bl
ascii_field: under was in stable condition. The major is on administrative leave.' << as far as i can tell, it was the 'rats' who escalated from clubs and knives to pistols, over ~50 yrs., in the police-vs-rats warz
ascii_field: at one point, it was understood (at least by urbanites) in usa that killing a cop means the electric chair first and questions later.
ascii_field: it is interesting to watch old films and see things like people going quietly to police station when asked, politely !
ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs!
mircea_popescu: it used to be latin, affero, where it meant to bring (ferry comes from the same fero root). it moved into french, where it meant to take over. it then slowly moved into a more figurative "to give oneself the airs of an office one does not yet have", at which point it moved into english, "to give oneself airs".
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mats: the movfuscator talk is good, although i think you've already looked at the writeup
mats: the wmi talk covered some stuff i haven't seen before
mats: fun fact: an 'Untrusted' process can use a bug in COM impersonation with WMI to escalate to 'High Integrity'
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ascii_field: thestringpuller: 'Since 2001-09-11, great stocks of (unclassified) information have been purged from US government sites. Various fellow travelers (see below) maintain partial archives. Relevant conference proceedings (high-density physics, etc) get snapped up on used book sites quickly.' << learn ru.
ascii_field: 'My recommendations are to follow The Making of the Atomic Bomb and The Los Alamos Primer (see "Books", below) with a few nuclear engineering and physics texts, at which point you'll be well-equipped to daydream about your own neutron initiator ideas and radical implosion symmetries. ' << without exception engl. language material is crawling with deliberate and potentially lethal disinfo, on this and many other subjects.
thestringpuller: "Don't be afraid to search through Russian papers; once you need to (you'll know when), they're sufficiently mathematically dense that you can follow along. The words are mainly just transitions anyway."
ascii_field: don't use the engl. translations of these, either.
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ascii_field: ^ plausibility: approximately zero; money: $millions
ascii_field: addendum now has film of the sc4mz0r burning his skin with what is - bet your arse - a hot nichrome wire
☟︎ ascii_field: for bonus revulsion, picture what this tool would ~smell~ like if it were physically possible and worked.
ascii_field: when i see something like this, i cannot help but wonder if 'kickstarter' is a straight money laundry for siphoning stolen cc#
jurov: well.. laser depilation is a thing
ascii_field: jurov: read the link. if you can stomach it.
jurov: yes i saw it, funny
mircea_popescu: yes dude, most of the "investments" are that. "oops we lost the money". right.
ascii_field: there are a few indie computer games etc. sprinkled in for legitimacy
ascii_field: (what is it called when honest folks end up doing this duty for a chumpatron..)
ascii_field: i confess, i lack the full vocabulary to describe adequately a scamatron of this complexity.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: why, do you suppose, the passers-by look so glum ?
mircea_popescu: you have no idea how clueless people in the streets of a quaint european town are.
ascii_field: is there no bus for them to end up under ?
thestringpuller: "We haven't seen you log in awhile, can we help you with KYC? We miss you!"
mircea_popescu: hey pete_dushenski, what do you do in your spare time ?
mircea_popescu: by which i mean, when you're not here/writing on your blog etc.
mats: payment processing networks are rolling out updates for 'emv' support at midnight in usa
ascii_field: 'Starting Thursday, merchants will be held fully liable for any losses due to credit card fraud if they are not geared up for the new, more secure, chip cards. And consumers will need to change their habit of swiping their credit cards to pay: Instead, they "dip" their new cards into terminals and leave them there until the transaction is complete. That is, if the retailer they're shopping at has the necessary equipment.'
ascii_field: 2) the new cards are BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE for www purchases and equally scammable
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...
☟︎ mats: if you have plans to buy things with your credit card tomorrow, should prob do it today, processing networks will be intermittently down
mircea_popescu: here's the thing in my head : b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency. and you might be just the asshole to do that, if you swing that way. do you swing that way ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pr agency, l0l! isn't that what moiety starved doing ?
mircea_popescu: she starved doing the very scared of bombs secretary brit girl.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu how do you imagine this agency working ?
mircea_popescu: and the process of her starvation was that she starved on her own devices, b-a got her a place to stay and then she ran off.
ascii_field: iirc pete_dushenski even sleeps ad libitum
ascii_field: just the man for a 'Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.'
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski a pr agency is in this day and age a very simple affair, but somewhat time consuming. in principle, it can be reduced to a lone dude with an internet connection and two lists. one, longer, of useful social media derps. the sort that are willing to do the hard work of upvoting, derping on reddit, etc. the other, sadly shorter, of actual important people can talk to directly. like say "all newspaper column
mircea_popescu: building these is not particularly difficult,. but it takes time. more importantly, it takes determination. and the sort of attitude of the guy that hey, the managers don't wanna see, but since the phone is here...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: can't resist the question, what is the point of having the first of the lists ?
mircea_popescu: you know, like reddit all agreed that XT is gonna take over.
ascii_field was under the impression that this is a waste of time
ascii_field: at least as per mircea_popescutronic theory
mircea_popescu: depends for whom. why allow the pinoys to make this money ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i believe i grok the first list - straightforward enough really, compile those on 'social media' on 'our side' and focus their energies accordingly - it's the second list i'm less clear about.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski arrington's success, you have to understand, is very little more than this. it's not a difficult recipe to read or follow. it just takes the hard worker to execute.
mircea_popescu: one could argue that jobs genius is altogether not much above this either.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no, it's more like, spend all your time on fiverr and craigslist and wherever the hungry congregate, spend a little money buying their ample time.
mircea_popescu: nobody gives a shit about extant social media accounts. their value is not even a fractrion of the work they put in
ascii_field: notice how dog sleds exist, but not rat sleds.
mircea_popescu: what you want is shannonizing meatrobots, capable of pouring out more nonsense. they're cheaper than the electric type, as of yet.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field every circus worth its name has a flea sled.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 15:09:25; ascii_field: ferguson, for instance, is not in md.
ascii_field: flea sled is great so long as it is not expected to go anywhere in particular.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, i figured he had me when he said that :p
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu and #2 is a list of journalists who may require quotes from time to time, which i would then provide directly or send them here to ask b-a directly ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as to the 2nd list : you want to build raport with those people. make a habit of taking one to lunch every week, if at all possible.
mircea_popescu: (very fucking possible, they travel on starvation budgets)
pete_dushenski: not to put too fine a point on it, but when and how is 'finance' or 'tech' journalist coming to buttfuck edmonton ? afaik they stay at home, work in nyc, or go to 'conpherences'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu but that's really just a practical matter, there are other ways to build rapport. the bigger question is 'why a pr agency' and 'why now?'
pete_dushenski: it's surely more than just a make work project for me in your mind
pete_dushenski: don't wait until you're falling from plane to build parachute ?
mircea_popescu: that stuff. and besides, YOU travel now and again don't you ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i certainly traveled plenty pre-monstre, though this will be decidedly diminished for at least 6-12 months. also, such trips only once coincided with a conpherence. going forward, as most traveling i do is personal touristing, these are unlikely to coincide again.
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pete_dushenski: furthermore, the expense of just taking trips to conpherenes seems prohibitive
mircea_popescu: besides, i wouldn't expect this to get anywhere within 12 months. if it does within 36 i'll be impressed.
pete_dushenski: if 36 months is mp='impressed', then 48='so-so' and longer than that is 'pete wasn't the right man for the job'
ascii_field wonders what interesting things may become part of the picture once enemy can no longer pretend to live in parallel '#b-a never existed' world
mircea_popescu: haha time doesn't scale. but anyway, for it to exist in three years you'll be spending a lot of time on it throughout
mircea_popescu: this is one of those things "anyone" could do except anyone is a socially awkward fuck and anyone lacks the focus and discipline for doing thigns more complex than microwaving.
pete_dushenski: this may well be the right kind of b-a 'contribution' for me, given that i can't code worth a damn.
pete_dushenski: ima mull it over and research a little further into this 'pr' business
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the only true drawback is that unlike real estate, this is a constant maintenance racket. everything you have at any point won't be useful in 5 years, or even 3. things move too fast. so its not one of those "do this right once it's done forever" stories like alf likes. it's more of a "hold this lamp up".
pete_dushenski: i quite enjoy my time for reading, writing, etc... hmm.
mircea_popescu: you don't have the same options once you're in a retirement home.
pete_dushenski: and ftr i'm nowhere near as speedy at these enjoyable activities as mp
mircea_popescu: i'm not speedy, i'm just existing on multiple planes at the same time is all.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu's advice is good except in the cases of folks who don't expect to live to retire
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ascii_field: 'To keep America's enemies from running up the score further, Obama will have to take more expansive military actions and increase defense spending. Perhaps Obama will come to realize this truth before he leaves office, as Jimmy Carter did in his last year. '
ascii_field: i.e. cheap shilling for 'lockheed', 'raytheon', et al.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 15:47:03; *: ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'increase defense spending' in usa is dog whistle for 'moar f35 plz'
ascii_field: considering that, without exception, it - and similar - is where the money goes.
ascii_field: not to buy new boots for trigger-pullers, no.
mircea_popescu: they do a sort of curated "pro-am" blog network. claim 3k new articles a day.
ascii_field: l0l raytheon ad actually visible on this www !
mircea_popescu: it's a sort of wikipedia meets that old women selling pots thing, i forget what it's called.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a good model for it's market (middle america!!11), that enchanted fargo where meryl streep still falls in love with clint eastwood every late summer.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the depth of the contempt that the herders show for this particular variety of sheep is astonishing imho
ascii_field: e.g., 'How Not to Make Planned Parenthood Squirm'
ascii_field: or, 'What happens to schools in case of a shutdown?'
ascii_field: ^ anyone with half a neuron in usa knows that schools have nothing directly to do with the fed. gov.
ascii_field: but this site is not angled at folks having this half a neuron or more
ascii_field: and in this way is ~entirely~ typical for 'right wing usa'
ascii_field: in the british world, 'daily mail' plays same role.
mircea_popescu tends to remember obama goons trying to "close down parks" because hey.
mircea_popescu: apparently trees standing also have something to do with the inept government.
ascii_field: this is at least partly engineered for the purpose of reminding the more uppity members of the public that 'if you want to oppose transgendered studies scholarships, fine, but you will do so in the company of people who believe that cancer is caused by demons'
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu another 'pr' pregunta : how do you see it being funded given that there's more than just time required ?
ascii_field: similarly, it is made clear that if you wish to oppose some particular usgism, you can do so in the company of impotent flat-earther twerps to your heart's content
ascii_field: it is what 'fox news', for instance, is made for.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you get clients, work on their projects. like anyone else.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's like "water's own weight will keep the water up".
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mircea_popescu: in general any company is better than usg company by now, and consequently this approach, if it ever was seriously entertained, fails.
ascii_field: the designated zoo of impotence is a dead end.
ascii_field: it is same usg, but a special holding pen therein.
ascii_field: lipsticked up to be somehow superficially 'opposition'
jurov: in other news, it may turn out my recent mental stupor was primarily not due to allergy, but lithium deficiency
jurov: started taking a mineral water for this, seems to have improved, will see
jurov: i'm as sceptical as anyone. but it wa desperate
jurov: it was pointedly not a zinc, i was taking that one for some time
mircea_popescu: general population is usually zinc deprived, and as a result most infections are drastically ameliorated by a little zinc intake
mircea_popescu: obama now appoints his own ambassadors, senate rubberstamp too expensive.
pete_dushenski: #7: Cocoa and Chocolate (Cocoa Powder) << maybe *this* is why i've been craving hot chocolate the last month or so.
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ascii_field: eh, jimmy carter 'practiced diplomacy without a license' for decades.
mircea_popescu: "Until last night when the Free Beacon contacted the State Department to inquire about the discrepancy, McGurk’s official biography on the State Department website also falsely credited McGurk with the rank of ambassador."
pete_dushenski: why don't kids want to play this popular usian sport ? injuries.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah that started last year.
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pete_dushenski: i guess compared to being on your phone twixting your assistant prof, anything is dangerous
thestringpuller: the lifespan of a football player's career is fairly small
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller exactly that. and when they're done, they're done like dinner
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The sport really isn't for rich kids from Maplewood anyways.
thestringpuller: I would expect the midwest to have baseball as the top sport.
phf: mircea_popescu: you know it was just b-a of the 1800s. << i think of b-a as more of a stonemasone guild, then a fraternity. maybe in a couple of hundred years when b-a has hereditary wot ratings and ceremonial pgp keys that are not otherwise used for anything. the way i read that joke is that one has the trappings and the other has a trowel that is used for its direct purpose.
mircea_popescu: i dun think i'd encourage any kid to play "professional" school sports. they don't get paid (no, 'scholarship' is not pay like coupons are not refunds) ; b) it's really fucking unhealthy. i mean being in shape is one thing. being "an athlete" is about as unhealthy as being a diabethic.
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu has it. and for sporty types, last i checked, there ~were~ sports that don't guarantee braindamage
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: unhealthy mentally maybe, but all the athletes I know are physically fit like no other.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu being 'an athelete' is indeed a dangerous and unhealthful proposition.
ascii_field: i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller you ~look~ vigorous and strong, but are as fragile as they come.
ascii_field: not a real sport unless brain leaks from ears, nose.
pete_dushenski: 'can do X excellently but can't tie shoelaces w/o tearing acl'
mircea_popescu: trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth.
mircea_popescu: then pete_dushenski can take as his first project promoting the jobs board :D
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller give them a decade until all the hair bone cracks and microtorn ligaments start acting up
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu (jobs board) that! (scars of 'athleticism') that again!
pete_dushenski: then again, there aren't many avenues for teaching mental toughness and discipline outside of sports in north america
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu maybe for contact sports. But the runners are like one step from being a robot.
mircea_popescu: they're still pushing it too hard. not as dangerous in running, sure. but school performance is running the 100meters in fifteen seconds, not trying for eight.
pete_dushenski: well it's our first date afternoon/evening, both free from le petit monstre, so i'm off. cheers !!
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes. << It's a tournament, or more a lottery market deal. It's for the poor kids to fight for the chance to make all the money they'll be able to for four years after the drop out of college in teir senior year
BingoBoingo: Then they build a mythology about how Maximum Concussion Sport is the epitome of Opportunity and the chance to earn your own social justice.
phf: ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs! << aha "На Севере, на его участках лесных Пеле и Мыке, Вае и Ветрянке, заключенные при перегоне (заключенные ведь не ходят, их «гоняют», это официальный словарь) требовали связать руки за спиной, чтоб конвой не м
phf: подвергались смертельной опасности. «Убитых при попытке к бегству» было очень много."
BingoBoingo: The big problem with American Football is that it is actually a combat sport, but a polite consensus has developed around not referring to it as such
mircea_popescu: lafond has a pretty good point re the "yo mamma's gonna cash out on being the mother of a got-shot".
mircea_popescu: this is like that except with less shot. technically a step up
BingoBoingo: At least boxing was more honest about the crippling yourself for others amusement there. If you work hard enough and get good enough your head doesn't get hit as much. American football hitting your head against things is kinda mandatory.
BingoBoingo: Recently they've been introducing new rules to football to penalize you from hitting otherpeople's heads in certain ways, but hitting your head is still mandatory.
mircea_popescu: the head being actually a more advantageous place to be hit in than the liver, yeah you get hit.
trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth. << indeed! I estimate having something usable by the end of next weekend
mircea_popescu: btw, you ever saw that incredible fight where romania's best boxer was totally gutted ?
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trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein sadly, new parser ripped up your last deed. happily, the part it ingested included the signature. I've since sent the whole thing back through, and it should pop out shortly.
trinque: I will keep the torn-off signature up there under block 376696.
trinque: it seems that ply parsers are one-shot, or I've missed something. So far my observation is that if you call parse successively on the same parser object, it misbehaves
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ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing
punkman: trinque: well you can't get nested structures by parsing the same string twice, it's gotta go in the grammar?
trinque: punkman: grammar wasn't the problem, as I did not change it to fix his deed
trinque: just started instantiating whatever ply object it is every time I go to parse
trinque: seems stupid, yet I don't have the time currently to discover why
trinque: grammar's just looking for headers, footers, and whatever
BingoBoingo: * ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing << Oh just highlighting the other aspect, something not meaningful which people are directed to rage about instead of their cattle pen
ascii_field: phun phakt: i was once told, by a reliable source, that RAND corp., in its glory days, would NOT hire any man who confessed to taking an interest in football.
BingoBoingo: In its glory days football was not the monster it is at present
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cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids
☟︎ mats: vidya games are how i got into programming
mats: skywing (ken johnson, guy that patented 'aslr') reversed the battle.net login protocol, and i used his documentation to write a chat client so i didn't have to keep starcraft open to maintain ops in a channel
☟︎ cazalla: yeah but for every one of you mats there is a million hamplanets playing cod, much better to be outside playing football (sure, watching is boring, but playing?)
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mats: folks that've read 'Uninformed' might recognize ken from his RE work on patchguard
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assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 22:14:53; cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such << Pretty much
BingoBoingo: Though former footballers often fall into the spiritual poverty of hamplanetary orbit after their "career" ends