ezdiy: it profits only the miners, not users
ezdiy: s/profits/benefits/
optimator: i see it as rewarding them for their work on the network
ezdiy: optimator: no, the merkle root should be updated continuously by slush
ezdiy: not when new block arrives
ezdiy: thats just being lazy, to the detriment of users
ezdiy: this is why hasprevblock is separate after all
optimator: it doesn't work that way. The block height is incorporated into the hash function. So you can know what to push unless you know the block you are working on
ezdiy: you, you have to re-verify txes which use same utxos as the txes in newly arrived block
optimator: imagine a queue that you are pushing new txs on. You keep building it up, but when a new block is found the queueu is emptied
ezdiy: but you *dont* have to to verify sigs again
ezdiy: optimator: yes, thats how it works and why slush pushes empty merkle for the mean time
ezdiy: until he re-verifies everything
ezdiy: optimator: this is probably something to be fixed in bitcoind, though :(
ezdiy: so people dont invent crazy hacks to prevent stales
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00068274 = 1.5362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00068122 = 5.8585 BTC [-]
optimator: ezdiy: yes, in bitcoind. It's can be 300 ms to get the new tx list
ezdiy: or much more if youre clever to push lots of utxos which will seek all through 6gb
ezdiy: imagine 1000 utxos, each spaced at 4mb boundary
ezdiy: spinning drives will go crazy :/
ezdiy: not to mention slow ecdsa verify
ezdiy: optimator: the trick is, when new block arrives, you just remove txes which are in it from your mempool (no verify needed, no seeks needed) and recompute merkle
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.54898 BTC [-]
optimator: ezdiy: yeah, maybe. I think you are coming at it from the bitcoind level and I'm coming at it from the json-rpc level
ezdiy: well, i see why its done like its done
ezdiy: because simple flush-and-redo is much simpler to implement
ezdiy: carefully pruning the outdated utxos must be written from scratch :(
optimator: plus you'd have to get the new block because you don't know what txs were included in it
ezdiy: you get new block, and look at inputs of all transactions in there
ezdiy: and just 1:1 compare with your mempool, if possible - the general case is lots of those will be same
ezdiy: the rest must be verified of course
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01512 = 0.756 BTC [+]
optimator: sure - 300 ms to getblock, compare, and recalc
ezdiy: but the ones you found in your mempool are already verified, because you do that whenever they arrive in your mempool
ezdiy: optimator: i think some json api for pools would be in order
ezdiy: getblock is enough, just make it faster/longpoll
benkay: her mircea do you have a link on hand to your piece commenting on monetary sterilization"
benkay: ms warren 'stepping on it'
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0151 = 0.1208 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01512 = 0.2419 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.54898 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves read up the history, we've had some excitement.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm putting it off to string of extremely unlikely coincidences.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.014925 = 0.0448 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 17 seconds
gribble: Current Blocks: 236085 | Current Difficulty: 1.1187257461360792E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 237887 | Next Difficulty In: 1802 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 7 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13424353.8156 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.99683
ThickAsThieves: so i skimmed, but essentially we have a weird empty block, likely malicious intent, and possible fork?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 59 @ 0.01512 = 0.8921 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.014925 = 0.7463 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah there was a 1hr+ pause just as the new bitcoind changed signature rules making it look like a multifork
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i mean it looked fucking weird as all hell for a coupla hours there, but...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 247 @ 0.014925 = 3.6865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 553 @ 0.00295421 = 1.6337 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2898 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pretty much everyone is having trouble with the 8.2 duality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the world is made of probabilities not certainties.
mircea_popescu: i think actual 51% past this point is an impossibility
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reasoning is that basically bitcoin is a sort of morphism on the fiat world, and i am pretty convinced by now that the 51% attack is the local equivalent of the market cornering problem.
mircea_popescu: it apperars possible to do, but only in static representations of reality
mircea_popescu: much like cornering markets appears possible to do in static representations of reality.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.53004, Best ask: 117.94999, Bid-ask spread: 0.41995, Last trade: 117.53002, 24 hour volume: 26422.96173181, 24 hour low: 114.50020, 24 hour high: 118.88000, 24 hour vwap: 117.07249
mircea_popescu: zero impact, for that matter. the lemmings aren't in this channel. they will never know today happened
mircea_popescu: for that matter, they don't trust themselves enough to believe their eyes. if respected people don't say there's a problem, there's no problem.
mircea_popescu: i still need to see someone argue convincingly that goxlag is bad for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: it's horible for gox, and esopecxially so for gox investors. so ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 235 @ 0.014925 = 3.5074 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: right, what io'm sauying is, this is a working prototype
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.522746 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1400 @ 0.000666 = 0.9324 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nope. it'll do exactly the same thing as mtgox lieing about "hacks"
mircea_popescu: listen. suppose you actually have the tech to own yubikeys
mircea_popescu: and let's presume for a moment you have no better use for it than btc.
mircea_popescu: NOW what you do with this ion cannon is steal random 4 btc wallet ?
mircea_popescu: you'd have to be born last night to actually believe this.
mircea_popescu: if indeed this was an attack able to cut through their (braindead) 2fa implementation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.2898 = 4.347 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but it wouldn't be the first website with a broken 2fa implementation.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43551 = 0.871 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> there is only so many times that this can happen without a real effect
mircea_popescu: see, but it'd seem to me you readily argue both ends of this rope.
mircea_popescu: for the simple reason that if anyone ever did most of the us would be so very much less lonely.
mircea_popescu: i have yet to see any indication of such wonder in practice.
optimator: both had their wallet.dat on truecrypt
mircea_popescu: optimator the reason girl said anything/i'm leading some credence to the claim of 2fa is because this isn't the first case i've heard.
optimator: MITM attack, or just bad random seed for 2fa?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.015 = 0.255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: I used a random 64 character ASCII character password from this site for my truecrypt password.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01512 = 0.1966 BTC [+]
optimator: gox has EV cert making MITM seem unlikely
optimator: but I agree I like my own entropy over someone else's - I like my own brand :)
optimator: asciilifeform: no - and it kinda freaks me out. I think SSL cert authentication through a PKI is a gapping hole
optimator: mircea_popescu: it's very interesting - I like the conclusion of the time the wallet was stolen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bitcoind is such a mess it'd be easier to make a million dollars being a janitor.
mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: always funny when people with 85 ltc speak of the masses.
mircea_popescu: "In fact, scratch the social engineering, you don't need to convince someone to run your .exe if you can just run your .exe for them via a Java drive-by attack, and admit it, you've left Java installed for extended periods of time, even if you try to keep it uninstalled normally."
mircea_popescu: "I know I've found this one thing that I just have to download and install Java for, then totally forget or put off uninstalling it afterwards, many a time."
optimator: mircea_popescu: 85 * 3.12 = wealth for the masses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 76 @ 0.01493999 = 1.1354 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 258 @ 0.01494 = 3.8545 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.01512 = 0.4082 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "I figured if I was ever the victim of a wallet stealing program, implementing a dummy in the default location would fool it and upload it, rather than my real one, to the attackers choice, but I was wrong."
optimator: ah - the empty-wallet-fake-em-out security measure
mircea_popescu: optimator not sure why people imagine machines locate items by name
mircea_popescu: Used bitcoin-qt and litecoin-qt. For the wallets, those encryption passwords were from memory. The truecrypt password, I always copied and pasted the password from a text file, on a USB drive, inside a password protected winrar file, inside of a password protected winrar file, inside of a password protected winrar file, totaling 3 different password protected rars to reach the .txt file.
dub: I have to run 8 year old java versions
mircea_popescu: i don't think it has anything to do with the 2fa mtgox issue but anyway
dub: several different ones
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ideea is, suppose i pass all my traffic through your controlled relay
dub: almost every ssl cert in this environment is self signed and long epired
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.549899 BTC [+]
dub: you'll find the same thing at most f500's
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5499 = 3.0998 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which barely has correct page protection."
mircea_popescu: "Then running your operating system on the other side of this brand new pile of shit. You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes."
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5499 = 3.0998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.54995 = 4.6499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.54998 = 7.7499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.55 = 31 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.55 = 46.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.59444 = 7.9722 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.5999 = 30.3981 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.67 = 10.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.69 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "TC gives you a false sense of security so its worse than no partition encryption."
mircea_popescu: my impression of the general truecrypt population is that they're not particularly more secure than average
☟︎ assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01494 = 1.494 BTC [+]
optimator: asciilifeform: doesn't it work if you start with the base as the secure OS. Then virtualize your browsing OS, virtualize your bitcoind OS, virtualize your banking OS, but the base is secure
ezdiy: the more the tunnel vision, the more blind spots for obvious stuff
optimator: assuming the base has been compromised, or our you suggesting the base could become compromised through a virtualized OS
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 32 @ 0.01494 = 0.4781 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Edit2: I was finally able to log into my account and found an API key with full rights to everything. I never made one, wtf does this mean?"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01525 = 0.122 BTC [+]
optimator: "If mircea trusts me with BTC I cant be too much of a fuckup." optimator wipes tear
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 105 @ 0.01525 = 1.6013 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, as you say. mtgox does not talk to yubikey, it talks to teh computor.
mircea_popescu: i don't think she actually understood before what sessions are and how they work
optimator: asciilifeform: my vote for best laugh tonight
mircea_popescu: actually tbh the "logged in" concept, rested on supposed sessionization of a stateless protocol is, imo, the most ridiculous idea of mankind to date.
mircea_popescu: female circumcision makes comparatively a lot more sense.
mircea_popescu: i mean when it was originally introduced it was like... fuck this shit, nobody cares, it's for some blog.
optimator: wasn't it all? I mean what could go wrong with a local hosts file?
mircea_popescu: i guess in the competition for "worst idea to date" they're all winners.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.675 BTC [-]
dub: but.. thats where I spend it?
dub: call it bittoken ring
mircea_popescu: ideally your machine would come with a one disk onetimepad
mod6: that'd be pretty cool
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01525 = 0.1983 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the problem quite fundamentally is a pretense to have identity outside of cryptography
mircea_popescu: anything pretending to exist outside of a cryptographic identity is living in a state of sin.
optimator: mircea_popescu: trust, you have to start somewhere
mircea_popescu: optimator no but look, the very notion of identity, ie, the possibility to distinguish X from Adam
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00285 = 2.85 BTC [-]
optimator: mircea_popescu: yes, but all predicated on trust - even WoT has issues scaling
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 124 @ 0.01525 = 1.891 BTC [+]
optimator: the further you are away from x+1 the less trust you can have
optimator: how do I know my banking site is *really* my banking site
mircea_popescu: optimator you exchange keys when you start your relationship
mircea_popescu: you give them yours they give you theirs as part of account opening
mircea_popescu: optimator for some reason i don't see the problem you see ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.0153 = 0.9486 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Participants in the DRM debate implicitly hold the view that the ownership of your operating system, your personal information, and your media is a complex, joint relationship between you, your operating system vendor, the authors of the applications you run, and the owners of any media that pass through that application. Prevailing wisdom is that the way any given software behaves should be jointly determined by all
mircea_popescu: these parties, factoring in all their interests, and that the argument is simply a matter of degree: who should be given how much control, and by what mechanism."
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 188 @ 0.0153 = 2.8764 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01544 = 0.772 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0155 = 0.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01495 = 0.0299 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the chinese may make plaster things which on the surface look like computers
mircea_popescu: and try to inject tyhem into trade as combuders or w/e
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0153 BTC [-]
optimator: following the example... if I want to transfer money via wire to another bank, then my bank establishes a relationship with bank b. I trust the key exchange has worked. Bank b is X+2. For X-n the WoT breaks down
mircea_popescu: optimator if you transfer money via wire you send it to your bank with instructions
mircea_popescu: nobody promoted you to the job of wire central clearance house.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't seem to have much trouble buying a computer
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0153 = 0.1224 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the fact that one can still hack banks to this day is proof enough
optimator: how about firmware signed with their public key. I have to trust they exchanged it with A who exchanged it with B that finally gets to me
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0159 BTC [+]
optimator: What is it does A->B->c->D and c is the bad guy?
mircea_popescu: optimator recently we've had some practical testing of this.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 84 @ 0.0153 = 1.2852 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you can to this day send orders to mpex via proxies no matter how dirty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you read that excellent piece re base vs acid ?
optimator: asciilifeform: please we call it a haircut, don't refer to the customers as chumps
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.0159 = 1.113 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in general commerce has always worked on the basis of reconciliation
optimator: mircea_popescu: I agree your model works, but if, in my example, c does bad stuff - I don't think you can tell. You simple have trusted others in the chain
mircea_popescu: just because you're a shut-in doesn't mean the world can work on your paradigm.
ThickAsThieves: TAT.ASICMINER just passed S.MPOE for all time sales volume on BTCT.co
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0159 = 0.4611 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: trust is central to society, and to the continuation of teh species.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01495 = 0.7475 BTC [+]
optimator: ha! idk, i just see it as an issue - maybe just me - sure
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, a relationship of trust isn't a weakpoint per se. it can be a strongpoint.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.016 = 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.01615 = 2.4225 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01615 = 0.4038 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 448 @ 0.01495 = 6.6976 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01615 = 0.3069 BTC [+]
KRS-1: Zzzzzzzzzz somebody do something
KRS-1: I'm about to go back to forex
KRS-1: what was gox volume this time last year
optimator: oh geez, I just got sucked into Tilde’s story
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.674999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.674999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.675 = 3.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.69 = 10.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01615 = 0.0969 BTC [+]
mod6: haha, he probably is
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.01616 = 0.1454 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01616 = 0.1778 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: soon there's goping to be all this us persecuted intellectuals flocking to the russian embassy
mod6: they say that more people have turned in their US passports this year than in any other year in history.
mircea_popescu: rich skilled people leave to asia and the middle east, poor people arive from latin america. "the us is becoming browner"
mod6: from what I've read, it seems like mexican immigration to the U.S has slowed signifigantly in the last few years...
mircea_popescu: well i was taking a more decades average sort of thing
mod6: oh yeah. then for sure.
mircea_popescu: on a yearly basis yeah, immigration isn't what the 80s used to be
mod6: when I lived in Tucson, it was crazy. there were like bodies being found in the desert all the time that had died from exposure.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01616 = 0.3555 BTC [+]
mod6: so they had these volunteer programs that people would participate in to drop off water in the desert where people could find it... and even shoes with maps sewed into the tounges to help people find the way through the desert.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01616 = 0.3555 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4644 = 1.3932 BTC [+]
mod6: when i first moved down there 10 years ago, there wasn't any real border patrol presense, but now? huge.
dub: I should cash out of bfl
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.01619 = 0.7609 BTC [+]
dub: someone talking about paying 45btc for a 4000 range preorder in the auction forum
dub: im wondering what they would pay for a FPGA single with a 1700 (first 24hrs) upgrade order
optimator: dub: at current diff you'd earn 45 btc in 20 days.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01619 = 0.0486 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 97 @ 0.01619 = 1.5704 BTC [+]
dub: meaningless but true
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.69 = 5.07 BTC [+]
optimator: well 45 btc now is a hedge against difficulty increase
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.69 = 11.83 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01619 = 0.0324 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0162 = 0.324 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0162 = 0.0972 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: optimator no, it's a hedge against bfl never delivering it
optimator: I'd like to think they're just incompetent rather than executing the long con
mod6: heh, remember when vrag would battle these guys? i miss that.
mircea_popescu: Disclaimer: I don't know the much about stock/shares, etc and I don't have the ability to program such a complex piece of software – but I believe I can make it happen and think this is currently a good idea. Please critque my idea. I'm open minded about all of it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.654005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.654004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.654 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.69 = 3.38 BTC [+]
mod6: Whatever I can do to help (javascript programmer). << lol
mod6: who styles themselfs as a JS programmer anyway!? eek
mircea_popescu: i think pigeons recalls this exchange some kids were starting about mid 2012
Scrat: JS programmer == I'm a huge faggot please rape my face
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01616 = 0.1131 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01615 = 0.21 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Scrat more like, im 14 and trying to get into this computer stuff.
Scrat: no MP, that's visual basic
mod6: lol but i doubt you run around telling people about it, Scrat
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.69 = 28.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 224 @ 0.0162 = 3.6288 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 250 @ 0.0163 = 4.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0165 = 0.33 BTC [+]
dub: the problem with selling the bfl order
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.69 = 6.76 BTC [+]
dub: suppose I could pay someone to proxy
mircea_popescu: so then dub will have sold his putative inaba product to mnw via usagi
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.69 = 8.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01559999 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I wonder if the btcmc stock DMC owns will ever be worth something
optimator: dub: it seems the better hype to reward factor is on ebay
optimator: i mean 1700 order fpga trade in asic 65 gh/s has a lot of buzz words in it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.017 = 0.561 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 265 @ 0.015 = 3.975 BTC [-]
dub: if MNW buys it I'm shipping with bonus ricin
dub: I don't hink they make ricin from rice
dub: something like ebola would be more fun
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.699999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: lol i was trying to get infront of them orders
mircea_popescu: I made a decision to have a preventive double mastectomy.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.69999 = 16.9999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01644 = 0.0493 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: man, it should be illegal to have a preventative mastectomy
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.003155 = 0.0631 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: punishment, you shall be permanently mounted on a framework where people will fuck you all day long
Diablo-D3: since they cant play with your tits, your ass and cunt will be good enough
BitHub: this beast is going to get to 2btc a share before next div
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: its just not the same thing, really
Diablo-D3: ever feel up a chick with fake tits?
mircea_popescu: sounded more like a weirdo ad than anything, but anyway.
Diablo-D3: you can TELL its not the real thing
Diablo-D3: I have never felt a set of fake tits that felt real
Diablo-D3: they dont feel real, they dont look real
mod6: Diablo-D3 wants tits to authenticate with gribble first
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, the real problem is
Diablo-D3: some chick gets a set of Ds, right?
Diablo-D3: anything bigger than an A needs sag
mircea_popescu: "In neighboring Venezuela, where implants are so popular they are sometimes even given to girls by their parents as a 15th birthday gift or as prizes in fund-raising raffles, there were frissons of anxiety among the many thousands of surgically enhanced women."
Diablo-D3: I am not dating anyone from venezuela
BitHub: i started dating a girl from /girlsgonebitcoin
BitHub: i think it could be love
Chaang-Noi: id date a girl from venz, some of dem be hot
BitHub: she tatto my qr code on the back of her neck
Diablo-D3: I think she just wants you for your money
mod6: lol and wouldn't a QR tat just blur/fade? better to get firstbits maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00068122 = 0.9537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00068121 = 2.5886 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i now as fiber, so much better than dsl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 380 @ 0.01567999 = 5.9584 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 120 @ 0.01568 = 1.8816 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.2705 = 3.5165 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.2704 = 3.5152 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01568 = 0.4704 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0164 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01568 = 0.0941 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01636 = 0.818 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.7 = 15.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.7 = 6.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.003159 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 192 @ 0.00316 = 0.6067 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01629 = 0.4073 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00249 = 0.0125 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: 02:22] <BitHub> lil fun bitcoin facts: Did you know friedcat's 666th post on bitcointalk was confirming that TAT had 666 asicminer shares
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00316 = 0.0253 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00317 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 103 @ 0.00334 = 0.344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 109 @ 0.003385 = 0.369 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.26910001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.003389 = 0.0678 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.016 = 0.272 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 38 @ 0.02 = 0.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 43 @ 0.016 = 0.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.003588 = 0.0144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000666 = 0.0027 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01615 = 0.0808 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.01615 = 0.1454 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.016 = 0.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.699 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01525 = 0.305 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0164 = 0.6396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.003588 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000666 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0164 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4 = 7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0164 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01599999 = 0.032 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0154 = 0.308 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
Namworld: ezdiy, I wouldn't mind some system where non-miners wouldn't need the whole blockchain. But I'm not sure that's even implementable.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
ezdiy: Namworld: thats kinda beside the point :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
Namworld: I suppose if the client was made to accept every X block unsigned transaction where all past inputs to each address are sent as a single output to themselves...
Namworld: Then every X block, old data could be pruned maybe for balance/transaction signing clients?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.698888 BTC [-]
Namworld: Whatever is done, it would require everyone to update in advance...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.7 = 6.8 BTC [+]
Namworld: and I don't know enough to know what is and what is not implementable
Namworld: Don't the devs are already trying to come up with such a solution anyway?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.651011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4291 = 3.0037 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01599999 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 58 @ 0.0164 = 0.9512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 72 @ 0.01644 = 1.1837 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01659 = 0.4148 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.7 = 5.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.7 = 17 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01599999 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01599999 = 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01667 = 0.1667 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015566 = 0.1557 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068146 = 0.6815 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.670002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.670001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00164999 = 0.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01599999 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01566 = 0.3132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01599999 = 0.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.015447 = 0.3244 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.015447 = 0.0463 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01667 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 177 @ 0.016 = 2.832 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0166 = 0.166 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.01667 = 0.6501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068146 = 2.0103 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 32 @ 0.0156 = 0.4992 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2834 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01667 = 0.2501 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1059 = 0.2118 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5370 @ 0.00068121 = 3.6581 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1862 @ 0.0006804 = 1.2669 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01689 = 0.4223 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.0169 = 2.535 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.748897 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.748898 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7489 = 3.4978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.748985 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.74899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01667 = 0.1334 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2691 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01608999 = 0.1609 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.5 = 15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01608999 = 0.0644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7274 @ 0.00068006 = 4.9468 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.74 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.01608999 = 0.5471 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01608999 = 0.0322 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2691 = 1.0764 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.016999 = 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.01776 = 0.373 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003588 = 0.0179 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01776 = 0.1776 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01685 = 0.2191 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.003588 = 0.0718 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.01776 = 0.1954 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 140 @ 0.01672 = 2.3408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.016305 = 1.0924 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.016305 = 0.6522 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.1501 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 2.15 = 19.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.749 = 5.247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.01608999 = 1.1263 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0162 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 393 @ 0.016305 = 6.4079 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01637 = 1.637 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01644 = 1.644 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01655 = 1.655 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01664 = 0.832 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.82003, Best ask: 118.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06997, Last trade: 118.89000, 24 hour volume: 24707.07845915, 24 hour low: 116.02500, 24 hour high: 119.54900, 24 hour vwap: 117.87356
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01639 = 0.8195 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.01644 = 1.233 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01655 = 1.655 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01659 = 1.659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 125 @ 0.01664 = 2.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.7499 = 6.9996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01669 = 1.669 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.75 = 7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.75 = 7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01669 = 1.669 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7589 = 3.5178 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01662 = 0.831 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01669 = 0.8345 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01657 = 0.8285 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01669 = 0.8345 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01669 = 0.8345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: • Without giving details, we have created a redundant system. The web front end is separated from the server."
kakobrekla: dunno i just skimmed through it and looks wtf.
mircea_popescu: "we won't mention where we got this from, god forbid we actually get some market goodwill"
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01667 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well most ripple looks wtf, at least to my untrained eye./
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01667 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ripple does not seem like it will ever work
Chaang-Noi: maybe i guess if enough people but money and time into it, but they will have to all trust each other, seems risky
Chaang-Noi: esp when we ahve btc, ripple seems like a step backwards to me.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01662 = 0.0831 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: mp, you heard about the newest reptilia lulz?
gribble: Error: This url is not on the whitelist.
Chaang-Noi: seems he was robbede and the hotel overcharged him
mircea_popescu: as in the hotel charged him for the damage to the room
ThickAsThieves: convenient this article promotes Amazon and AMEX coins
Chaang-Noi: i think he just booked shit for 20 people and no one showed up, and then btc went down when he thought it would be 1000
Chaang-Noi: just my guess, i did not fully check out everything
Chaang-Noi: he lol, he seems like a nutter, i dont think he will ever get his supernode network set up if he acts like this
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7589 = 3.5178 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: from his chart it would seems so, as long as you convert it to btc
Chaang-Noi: but you are ging to need about all the rippels evar
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.7589 = 5.2767 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01659 = 0.4148 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1059 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.778 = 5.334 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1059 = 0.2118 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i almost ran into a croc 2 days ago on the fucking highway
Chaang-Noi: but it made me think of that croc on the highway
Chaang-Noi: man its only 8 pm and im tired as fuck
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.77 = 15.93 BTC [-]
Namworld: I shouldn't have sold at .41 I guess...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i like how your recent asset is somehow dominating the older oens
truffles: <Chaang-Noi> man its only 8 pm and im tired as fuck>>>>>>>>>>>> im wide awake
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 18 @ 0.00358 = 0.0644 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.779 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.7795 = 7.118 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 167 @ 0.00358 = 0.5979 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.779999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.779999 = 5.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.78 = 5.34 BTC [+]
Uglux: "The question in any gold rush is who will do better: the people mining, or the people selling the shovels? ASICMiner decided they can do both." ---> this
Chaang-Noi: they are going to do what ever is more profitable
Uglux: "who will be spending 2 BTC on gear that will never in its useful lifetime mine 2 BTC." I wil solo mine with 4 sticks and a rpi for the lulz :)
Uglux: div paid it already :P
Namworld: Which means if mining ever becomes very unprofitable, ASICMINER can just keep selling at a profit to hobbyists...
Namworld: Unless someone really beat them hard time on cost performance
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.01608999 = 0.1126 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.01608999 = 0.2896 BTC [+]
truffles: <mircea_popescu> this is just hobbist having fun.>>> wonder if he means hobbits from Lord of the Rings or Hobbyist
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.223315 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 240 @ 0.00358 = 0.8592 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.000666 = 0.0053 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01628 = 1.628 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01627 = 1.627 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01626 = 1.626 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.01625 = 3.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01649 = 1.649 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01655 = 1.655 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01659 = 0.4148 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.01659 = 1.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.01659 = 1.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01659 = 1.659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.016201 = 1.6201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.01662 = 0.7479 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 105 @ 0.01662 = 1.7451 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01662 = 0.831 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01608999 = 0.0644 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01665 = 0.1166 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01665 = 0.4995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.01608999 = 0.4505 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.4646 = 6.5044 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46474008 = 0.9295 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.46475 = 11.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4646 = 1.3938 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4646 = 0.9292 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 72 @ 0.01629 = 1.1729 BTC [+]
davout: assbot should come in #bitcoin-anal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00067909 = 3.2936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 579 @ 0.00068011 = 0.3938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5071 @ 0.00068146 = 3.4557 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01639 = 0.8195 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00206 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01643 = 0.8215 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.15 = 4.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.764895 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01646 = 0.823 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01646 = 0.823 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: BTCTC totally stalls every time someone makes an order
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76648 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: could i crash the prices if i put in a bunch of Qty 1 orders? ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.766945 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01649 = 0.8245 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76798 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it's very interesting to see the volume difference across these 3 exchanges
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.767489 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01649 = 0.8245 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: also intersting that people are leaving cheaper shares in Butfunder alone
mircea_popescu: it seems ukto's decision to split off didn't work out for him then, i recall it was about at parity with btctc
mircea_popescu: well didn't he make his own chan and everything rather than pipe into assbot ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0165 = 0.825 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i also think that you need two accounts to use BF hurts it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01652 = 0.826 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0165 = 0.825 BTC [-]
ll: i dont use it for that reason
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01652 = 0.826 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76878 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
knotwork_: Anyone know anything about CAvirtex? Like whether anyone has gotten any withdrawals from them lately at all?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.769 = 3.538 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01655 = 0.8275 BTC [+]
knotwork_: My bank xfer is within its days (from friday) but "same day" payza transfers from sat and sun are not at payza yet
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01658 = 0.829 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: so basically, not one publically traded bitcoin exchange has worked out yet
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.769 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01629 = 0.2444 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01658 = 0.829 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01655 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: geez, BTCTC is hanging for like minutes for each order...
kakobrekla: about ipo of some clearing house in panama or some shit
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01661 = 0.8305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.01655 = 0.811 BTC [-]
truffles: because theyre the biggest or safest?
ThickAsThieves: cuz every reason really, other than not being exemplary
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01661 = 0.8305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01661 = 0.8305 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i guess you could say they are institutionalized at this point
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.01665 = 0.2165 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01665 = 0.4163 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: if they can keep their heads they can continue to make bank
truffles: stressful life, who wants that..
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01665 = 0.4163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01665 = 0.4163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01659 = 1.659 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01659 = 0.2986 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 163 @ 0.01629 = 2.6553 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.01633 = 1.2248 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 425 @ 0.01638 = 6.9615 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 82 @ 0.01659 = 1.3604 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 167 @ 0.01649 = 2.7538 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00329987 = 3.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 515 @ 0.00329988 = 1.6994 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.01842 = 1.4736 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01659 = 0.083 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01659 = 0.0664 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1031 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000721 = 0.0072 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.01659 = 1.0949 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.00072 = 0.0058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8050 @ 0.00307188 = 24.7286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00072 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2849 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2849 = 0.8547 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.764498 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.0007 = 0.014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0007 = 0.007 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.764878 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.0007 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.765 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.767488 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.01659 = 3.318 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00066 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00064 = 0.0128 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01662 = 1.662 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01662 = 0.4155 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.01662 = 0.6814 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01662 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 6 @ 0.00062 = 0.0037 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.0007 = 0.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01659 = 0.3318 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2849 = 1.1396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01659 = 0.1991 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.764897 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01654 = 1.654 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.01649 = 0.4947 BTC [+]
error4733: why no 1 tell me that when its was 0.2btc/30$
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.730011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01649 = 0.0495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01649 = 0.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01659 = 0.0995 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
error4733: miss the perfect trade, sold SD @0.07 and bought AM @0.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 61 @ 0.01659 = 1.012 BTC [+]
error4733: @Namworld: sorry for your lost !! why did you sold btw ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 83 @ 0.01662 = 1.3795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01665 = 0.4163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01665 = 0.4163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.01665 = 0.1499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0075 = 0.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.75 = 8.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 15 @ 0.01 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 46 @ 0.01649 = 0.7585 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.730011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 83 @ 0.011 = 0.913 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01665 = 0.2664 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.01665 = 2.4975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.01667 = 0.6168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 113 @ 0.01667 = 1.8837 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: So, what do you guys think a share of AM will be worth in 4 weeks?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01667 = 0.8335 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I mean market price on exchanges, not a snarky personal value
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000869 = 0.0087 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00087 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 49 @ 0.00091 = 0.0446 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 350 @ 0.000968 = 0.3388 BTC [+]
error4733: depend on news and power release ? i've no share so i not follow
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.01672 = 1.8392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1000 @ 0.00097 = 0.97 BTC [+]
error4733: i read they have 20% of all networks
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.01672 = 0.7691 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 35 @ 0.00099 = 0.0347 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: mostly because AM mining hashrate goals continue to move
error4733: do you thinks they can go up to 20%
jcpham: can't believe i bought asicminer shares so cheap
ThickAsThieves: you'll see people starting to sell of their board seats
jcpham: ThickAsThieves i was thinking 2.5 is dump time
jcpham: 2.2 is a valuation per share i've seen tossed around
error4733: always the same story, i'm too late or not haha
jcpham: surely it's going to fall
error4733: it's already include in the weekly div ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.735 = 5.205 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: if they pay out all the money from blades thats .02 alone
jcpham: friedcat is running one hell of an organization froma fucking forum thread
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.01672 = 0.7357 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01678 = 1.678 BTC [+]
error4733: soo i need 150 week (at actual div) to break even ?
truffles: <jcpham> friedcat is running one hell of an organization froma fucking forum thread>>> sounds like he/she is doing one helluva job
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.01678 = 2.517 BTC [+]
jborkl: error4733 , it is very easy to figure out - about 25000 bitcoins are mined a week / percentage of network AM has / 400,000 shares + hardware sales
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01681 = 0.2522 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: then get even more risky and turn that into compounded APR
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4199 BTC [+]
jborkl: price depends on what people are willing to have as a APR
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+]
jborkl: personally, I like Havelock the best
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i'd sell my AM PT on mpex too, but that's like selling swampland to MP I think
jborkl: well, the last PT was a nightmare - so I do not blame him
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i would guess it most depends on bitfury atm
ThickAsThieves: really there could easily be a private version of BitFury too
mircea_popescu: if indeed the guy can deliver in the petahash range...
ThickAsThieves: someone pointed out that the petahash thing would be a power problem
mircea_popescu: he did risk a lot of money on it tho, and he doesn't really have preorders or even a site
ThickAsThieves: if i were gonna run a scam, i'd have no issue frontng 100btc
mircea_popescu: ya but what's the scam ? it was clear with bfl, what with the website and google ads etc
mircea_popescu: but marketing for what, if he's betting the other side.
ThickAsThieves: Friedcat said he'd ship "test" blades to each board member
ThickAsThieves: I contemplated just buying one now, to 1-up the competition
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46475 = 2.7885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01681 = 0.0504 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01681 = 0.0672 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.016512 = 0.3302 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.01674 = 1.4229 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.01669 = 0.701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.759999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75988 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01669 = 0.3338 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.762498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01674 = 0.2511 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01677 = 1.677 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 78 @ 0.01681 = 1.3112 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01685 = 1.685 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01688 = 1.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75988 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75988 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.017 = 1.139 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01703 = 1.703 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.01715 = 0.8404 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.411004 = 3.288 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.411003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01725 = 1.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01725 = 0.4313 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.01725 = 0.5693 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016251 = 0.0325 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2233 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0175 = 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.01747 = 1.3103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0175 = 0.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0175 = 0.0875 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00357 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.767986 = 7.0719 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2849 = 1.4245 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.0175 = 1.6625 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 73 @ 0.017589 = 1.284 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 230 @ 0.016512 = 3.7978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2849 = 0.8547 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2849 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.017588 = 0.9146 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.746 = 3.492 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.01749 = 1.0494 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01745 = 0.0349 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76797 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.767986 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76797 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 17 @ 0.011 = 0.187 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.735 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.73001 = 6.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.720008 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199697 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1998 = 0.3996 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.016512 = 0.1981 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.2849 = 1.9943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00067632 = 3.0434 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.016512 = 0.6275 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 62 @ 0.01655 = 1.0261 BTC [+]
inhies: Xcoind backend failure in getbalance at 77
illumin: yeah been down for a while
inhies: i was JUST looking at it
inhies: i was gonn buy some TAT
inhies: ThickAsThieves: wanna cut me a deal?
inhies: fwiw, the api still appears to be up
inhies: i am but not for any real quantity :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [+]
inhies: i never got my code done for the btctc api
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.01655 = 1.0427 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01655 = 3.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1059 = 0.9531 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.01655 = 0.6289 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.01649 = 0.6266 BTC [-]
Ukto: btw, i am not sure about 'splitting off'
Ukto: I have had the bitfunder channel since well, Bitfunder launched
Ukto: I had a bot made for this channel primarily to handle peoples requests, was told no, so stuck it in bitfunder. not really "splitting off"
ThickAsThieves: but I really would like to see reliable Bitfunder trades firing in here
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.01842 = 0.3684 BTC [+]
inhies: its not like its hard to do :(
inhies: but apparently assbot's owner doesnt wanna do
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.01848 = 0.0739 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01849 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: implementing assbot is 2 min of work, ask anybody who has done it
inhies: i mean adding bitfunder to it
inhies: instead of having a second bot in here
inhies: is there soemting i could do?
inhies: kakobrekla: you said theres a spec for assbot. is there some way i could parse the trade data and send it to assbot ?
Ukto: i dont have time to setup that stuff atm
Ukto: I have biger things than adding support for a channel of another 30 users
Ukto: Anyone here who does NOT CURRENTLY USE BITFUNDER, would you activly trade on and use bitfunder if it was streaming in irc?
Ukto: if i get more than 30 users say yes
Ukto: then i will dedicated all the time needed to it
Ukto: but seeing as half the channel actively uses bf already
Ukto: i dont trhink its a real issue
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.0169 = 1.0647 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i learn of awesome channel that will let me stream my trades there
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.00304 = 0.1003 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0169 = 0.0338 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01735 = 0.0347 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017351 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.764999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.765 = 10.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.7676 = 19.4436 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76797 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.767999 = 19.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1059 = 1.059 BTC [+]
inhies: i would like to see it here
inhies: but im also in #bitfunder so its not a deal breaker
inhies: and i can always run my own ticker in a terinal window
kakobrekla: sure give me a signed statement from ukto that he approves you sending in data in his name and you can implement it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01655 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 16 @ 0.01649 = 0.2638 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01649 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01667 = 2.5005 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01729 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4646 = 3.7168 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 99 @ 0.01729 = 1.7117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0028 = 0.0056 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00068157 = 4.6347 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.0166 = 0.5976 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0165 = 1.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 77 @ 0.01629 = 1.2543 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01629 = 0.0652 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017355 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01719 = 0.1031 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17297 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01719 = 0.1719 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.01699 = 1.4442 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01719 = 0.0344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.749999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.75 = 33.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.05 BTC [-]
error4733: yes, gozzila come to ask private key
jborkl: I logged into Dwolla and can verify that is most likely accurate
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.75 = 5.25 BTC [+]
jborkl: They have been removed from Dwolla
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.01709 = 0.6152 BTC [-]
jborkl: I logged into my Dwolla account and I am not a retard, it is not available right now. signed me
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01709 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 118.54999, Best ask: 118.56000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01001, Last trade: 118.56000, 24 hour volume: 26615.66637578, 24 hour low: 116.02500, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 118.48201
benkay: idiot faucet's dunzo though
Diablo-D3: [03:33:29] <mircea_popescu> they were raided in japan a few weeks ago too
jborkl: They are gone from the system, it says User no longer available
benkay: and that wasn't a hoax?
Diablo-D3: sounds like more wall street bullshit
gribble: The answer is a resounding no.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.01709 = 1.1963 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 yeah. let me tell you a story about wallstreet.
jborkl: The user to send to could not be found.
mircea_popescu: mtgox thinks mpex is "illegal". mtgox thinks it is legal.
mircea_popescu: coinbase thinks "it is bringing bitcoin to wallstreet"
benkay: then the easy spigot goes away
inhies: dwolla says user 812-649-1010 not found
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: except coinbase doesnt actually exist
Diablo-D3: and I wish people would quit talking about it
error4733: correct me but dwolla is for small amount ? with the fee etc..
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.01709 = 0.9229 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: its just another scam like bfl and bitcoinica
jborkl: you could send $5000 a time for 25 cents
error4733: k, i'm not US based so, not very aware about dwolla
error4733: backfire related to coinbase case ?
iz: that's what i first thought also
iz: part of coinbase's lawyers doing their thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.1499 = 6.4497 BTC [+]
benkay: that would be some good lawyering
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.0167 = 0.6012 BTC [+]
jborkl: coinlab, we made a website and added a gox quote to it, that is $75 million now
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.01699 = 0.5437 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01699 = 0.3228 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: so if I wanted to sell 480btc, how would I do it?
jborkl: well, they did have to buy a domain name for 4.99 i guess
Diablo-D3: I dont trust these companies with AML/KYC
Diablo-D3: they havent proven they are properly storing the data securely as per the law
Diablo-D3: its very easy to securely store data, why have they not proven they are
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.01687999 = 0.1857 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I think this is probably why I had my modship removed on the forums
Diablo-D3: they got tired of me pointing out problems
Diablo-D3: like, I cleaned up tbe BFL mess no one else was willing to do, and everyone who was in on the scam got pissy
DeaDTerra: I can sell for 1.68, I just want to sell these 30
Diablo-D3: I told people bitcoinica wasnt safe, and people got pissy and then never apologized to me
DeaDTerra: buying a new computer so cashing out some BTC
Diablo-D3: I told people GLBSE wasnt safe after what nefario tried to do to DMC, and people didnt listen
truffles: not hard to tell btc isnt safe
Diablo-D3: Im seriously considering just cashing in all my btc and leaving
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: Im tired of fucktards trying to fuck me over.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.51001, Best ask: 114.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 114.51001, 24 hour volume: 38002.45117133, 24 hour low: 114.42057, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 117.75825
Diablo-D3: I dont trust mtgox to properly secure it because mtgox refuses to prove it is properly secured
Diablo-D3: mtgox also cannot be touched under US laws, ie, I cannot sue them for a breach of security
Diablo-D3: I dont know why ANYONE does business with mtgox
Diablo-D3: truffles: in the US and EU, you MUST secure customer data
Diablo-D3: if you get caught not doing that, you are fined out your ass
Diablo-D3: up to the point, small businesses go bankrupt
Diablo-D3: truffles: nope, you cant pay them off
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01687999 = 0.422 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: the US has even fined companies like BoA for losing customer data
gribble: MtGox lag is 39.868904 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0798968372215 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
benkay: "you" can't pay them off, truffles
benkay: massive corporations can, though.
benkay: that's not corruption, that's compliance :)
benkay: "we are too big to fail and too incompetent to implement this. how much do we have to pay?
Diablo-D3: higher? they're the third largest bank in the world.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01688 = 0.422 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: (citi, chase are 1 and 2, hsbc is 4)
truffles: i wasnt really following the whole chat though
Diablo-D3: citi and chase iirc have both also paid fines
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.51000, Best ask: 113.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 113.00000, 24 hour volume: 43011.94624705, 24 hour low: 112.71496, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 117.29708
Diablo-D3: the government takes those fines very seriously
gribble: There are currently 28530.865 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 3058167.41481 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
truffles: if u believe govt does what its supposed to then yea
benkay: they take their fines unrelatedly to whatever they're notionally supposed to do
benkay: what they're supposed to do has nothing to do with what they actually do
gribble: MtGox lag is 75.984144 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.152271373815 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01688 = 2.532 BTC [+]
benkay: any bitcoin news at all and the gox engine shits itself
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.2233 = 0.4466 BTC [-]
truffles: well if there were good alternatives maybe it wouldnt grind to a halt
benkay: that's a pretty trivial conclusion...
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.017 = 0.714 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.223316 = 0.8933 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01709 = 0.2393 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.017189 = 0.8938 BTC [+]
benkay: toplogically identical to "if fewer people traded on gox it wouldn't have the lag problems it does"
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 82 @ 0.01719 = 1.4096 BTC [+]
benkay: if the traffic went elsewhere the lag would decrease
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.017289 = 1.3831 BTC [+]
benkay: i forgot how much i'd have to explain for this to be a worthwhile conversation for a second
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01729 = 1.729 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+]
truffles: as someone looking at the btc shenangians its just wow
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.66337, Best ask: 111.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.32663, Last trade: 111.99000, 24 hour volume: 53895.50132168, 24 hour low: 109.42198, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 116.04770
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.017349 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.238 = 0.476 BTC [+]
truffles: clearly satoshi nakamoto needs to come back to fix everything
truffles: yep knew what they were in for
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0173 = 0.519 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 77 @ 0.0173 = 1.3321 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.749999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.75 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.01725 = 0.897 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.01725 = 0.828 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 93 @ 0.0173 = 1.6089 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 112 @ 0.017348 = 1.943 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.017349 = 0.8328 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.017349 = 0.5031 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.017355 = 0.3124 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.700001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.017348 = 0.0347 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.73989 BTC [+]
dub: I think this is the problem
dub: <jgarzik> Current BTC balance: ~630
dub: <BlueMatt> Balance: 31.30259848 BTC
dub: <sipa> Current BTC balance: ~200
dub: dev team has no incentive to unfuck bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.73999 BTC [+]
jborkl: Garzik has had a Avalon since January - I do not think he is poor
kakobrekla: i thought they had at least 10 times that.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.737 BTC [-]
mod6: (13:35) < dub> <BlueMatt> Balance: 31.30259848 BTC << lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.017122 = 0.0514 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.85002, Best ask: 112.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11998, Last trade: 112.97000, 24 hour volume: 63165.98317902, 24 hour low: 109.42198, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 115.68728
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.737 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.017122 = 0.0856 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.670523 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00357 = 0.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0168 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.80001, Best ask: 116.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 115.80001, 24 hour volume: 68069.54565023, 24 hour low: 109.42198, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 115.60158
mircea_popescu: best proof that mtgox doesn't really matter one could imagine.
benkay: the money hasn't run out on gox yet
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.016603 = 0.4151 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 284 @ 0.0164 = 4.6576 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 16 @ 0.01630001 = 0.2608 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.68 BTC [+]
taub: but it made a spike down
taub: it seems big because it was so slow recently
gribble: There are currently 34961656 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19541810.9541 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.5149 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.64002 = 3.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.601 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0166 = 0.0332 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0165 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.016251 = 0.4063 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01625 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016249 = 0.0325 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.0162 = 1.0368 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 284 @ 0.0166 = 4.7144 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 2.23 = 8.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.0164 = 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 211 @ 0.016587 = 3.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0165 = 0.231 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016 = 0.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01679 = 0.084 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.015601 = 0.156 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0156 = 0.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.560001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0151 = 0.1812 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.551 = 7.755 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0165 = 0.1485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 58 @ 1.55 = 89.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0164 = 1.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01600001 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1000 @ 0.016 = 16 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0156 = 0.78 BTC [-]
taub: what you think bout that homeland security deal?
taub: well there's still plain wire
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.016789 = 0.1679 BTC [+]
dub: bitcoin is for trrsts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0165 = 0.033 BTC [+]
bgupta: My take on Gox news, is that gox was a grey currency market for USD -> BTC. Predicting as a result of DHS trying to stop currency conversion, that the market will bifurcate, into regulated exchanges and balck exchange. My sense if history is anything to go on, that prices will be better on black exchanges.. and will eventually make up much of the volume.
dub: in the interim, $2 coins
bgupta: Actually no $2 coins. The reality is that those who US folks with stakes in btc are the lucky ones who got in before it got a lot harder.
dub: Willdude123: you call the hookers, I'll get some blow
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation:
http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ Willdude123: It's just it'd make more sense to use enwp.org
jurov: The sauna WAS the "security room" of the conference...I DID NOT leave my computer + the keys + 2 factor auth there for the reason that I was stupid, but for the reason that it was designated to be the MOST SECURE place, with higher rating than the hotel room..
jborkl: there are only so many places to hide your Yubikey in the Sauna
jborkl: Hey guys, lets play hide the Yubikey OK, not gay or anything this is for national security
mircea_popescu: seeing how you're stuck predicting things months after they happened already or some shit.
Willdude123: Is 0.0165 a bit too much to bit for an ASICminer share?
jurov: apparently. oh and as a result he decided promptly to: "I will not do anything."
jurov: Willdude123, leave it at "yes".
ll: usually on wednesdays yeah
bgupta: Not gonna say I didn't see it coming… as I did and deliberately decided to be on the correct side of history. If more than one person came to the same conclusion at different points in time, more power to em.
mircea_popescu: jurov so basically his way of becoming relevant in BTC is claiming he used to have bitcoins at some point before the sauna.
jurov: no he's the first one to use bitcoins in sauna
jurov: and to use sauna as security room
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone even heard of the steamy security room before.
mircea_popescu: sauna darkroom yes. sauna security room is like sauna fridge room
jborkl: So I guess with his $9 mill, he could not afford a body gurad?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.017 = 0.51 BTC [-]
Willdude123: Will higher divs mean higher demand so a higher share price?
jurov: Willdude123: theoretically yes, but satoshidice disproved it several times
Willdude123: So what happened to the bitcoins in the sauna?
jborkl: Lol, that guy is such a asshat
mod6: hahaha, jacko is wacko
jborkl: Well, he is a donator and hero member
mod6: omg that guy needs to stfu
dub: im still stuck wtfing at "which in a 5-star hotel means that you run out of water in 2 hours, followed by evacuation since you are not in a position to run a supernode without water, and risk a danger of breakdown"
jborkl: Well , bitcoind on his laptop needs a lot of attention
dub: I think this dude is a supertroll
mod6: yeah, i've got nothin
mod6: its just crazy talk
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6002 BTC [+]
dub: I've actually never come across a fin that wasnt a fucktard
optimator: it looks like he deleted his post asking for asylum
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i thought running water was mandatory for 2 star classification.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.6 = 11.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00065 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.016011 = 0.1601 BTC [-]
optimator: from memory: the country should be natural, 20-30 celcius, organic food, and room for 5-20
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01601 BTC [-]
optimator: Doesn't Romania fit that description?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.015999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0155 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01521 = 0.3042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0152 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: which country doesn't have room for 20 people ? tuvalu ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0151 = 0.1208 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0151 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.560001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
optimator: i think that last search explains a lot
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016504 = 0.033 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016788 = 0.0336 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.016788 = 0.2015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0164 = 0.0984 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0164 = 0.0984 BTC [-]
jurov: that's easy to approve if you don't need to cash out
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.016788 = 0.0336 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1033 = 0.3099 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.016788 = 0.4029 BTC [+]
jurov: today just got email from my llc consultant that they want to consider me as financial service and bank
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1031 = 0.9279 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1031 = 0.5155 BTC [-]
jurov: have yet to research what does that mean
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 100 @ 0.103 = 10.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "I have pretty many coins and I store them with pretty many precautions. By many, I mean that it takes me an approximately 16 hours of my prime work time to do it, and it also does not happen without a considerable monetary cost."
mircea_popescu: it takes him 16 hours of labour to go through the sauna ?
mircea_popescu: I had planned for an overkill in all respects, so my organization worked pretty well because of the extra capacity, even after the hotel turned hostile after the CEO refused to acknowledge that they had blown it (and he still lives in his denial afaik).
jurov: yea, am saying since quite some time
mircea_popescu: "Certainly it was not the hotel staff, they just left the door open in the middle of the night for anyone to walk in. Which is pretty lame considering that they had turned down my plea to have a 24-hour guard,"
dub: we need this guy in -trollbox statte
mircea_popescu: It is happening - organizations are being paralyzed in front of our very eyes, unable to even tell me, how exactly I should pay their bill (of 10,000 EUR), and in which order I can deduct the amount compromised, lost or stolen (up to 10,000,000 EUR) because of their criminal negligence.
ThickAsThieves: My Gox account: Your wallet: 0.00009999 BTC, $11.89085
mircea_popescu: tbh while it'd be great if this was a display of sheer skill coming from a stable individual
mircea_popescu: Now they are holding hostage to some of my and my family's personal items, causing a great annoyance to us (with no offsetting gain to them), and reducing our ability to proceed with the investigation (as I need to buy new suits to keep me supplied, and constantly write here, both with the time I could more profitably use for my bitcoin accounting)
mircea_popescu: have billed my credit card unauthorized to the value of 3,000 EUR, and the several silk suits in Manor Hotel Suite #30 act as a countertestimony to their wishful thinking that nothing would ever have happened.
dub: tbh, if I was anywhere near this clown I'd have robbed him too
ThickAsThieves: hehe just saying i have 9999 satoshis and $12 stuck in Gox
dub: ThickAsThieves: you're Willdude123 rich
mircea_popescu: dub i wouldn't have, but i'd have ordered someone do it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.016679 = 0.1668 BTC [-]
dub: [17:43] --- Willdude123 [~george1@wikipedia/W-D] has joined #bitcoin-assets
dub: [17:44] <Willdude123> Just bought 0.02 ASICM shares.
ThickAsThieves: my mom is being a total bitch about this $12 stuck in Gox
mircea_popescu: "This fiasco happened in the atmosphere of relaxedness without the lightest malice from my part - quite the contrary - everybody who was there can prove my dedication towards making this thing the best in their lives. I don't think the organizations of evil can do any better, if even the organizations of good (such as Vuoristo-Yhtiöt and their Haikko Manor) fail to remain operative when the reality hits them too hard."
jurov: CIA is mentioned earlier
dub: this is paraniod schizo stuff
ThickAsThieves: i wonder sometimes if reptilia is just trolling this channel mainly
dub: 'the doorknobs are out to get me'
jurov: why would he do it?
mircea_popescu: dude. mpoe-pr was right ?! the girls in the pic were in fact hotel stafdf ?
ThickAsThieves: i cant even grasp what the guys is even pretending to do
Willdude123: ThickAsThieves:Are you the founder of ASICM?
Scrat: ThickAsThieves is antonio banderas irl
Willdude123: Well, you show annoyance at your mum so I guess you're under 18.
assbot: Shit, you aint even old enough to smoke.
mircea_popescu: Willdude123 he's married or something ; he runs the TAT pt's on asicminer.
dub: he's married.. to your mom
dub: bitches don't know about my bitcoinz
kakobrekla: my mom is coinowner for over a year now ;)
kakobrekla: this insults are not up to par with -assets cmon try harder
mircea_popescu: so basically his complaint boils down to this : the hotel charged him more than he imagined will be charged ; the staff cleanned the sauna.
mircea_popescu: this would be the prima facie reality upon which his complex and convoluted icing is then placed.
kakobrekla: pay the bill with btc, cc or silver pottery
ThickAsThieves: dub pm's me once a week asking if i'm buying shares, then silence. I think he's just keeping tabs on me.
ThickAsThieves: [17:26] <ThickAsThieves> how many you looking to unload?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if he's not on by the time you respond you just get a freenode notice.
dub: ThickAsThieves: I'm -R now :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 35 @ 0.0015 = 0.0525 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i just figured he was unsure if he actually wanted to sell
dub: !ticker bc ASICMINER-PT
assbot: I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
dub: !ticker bt ASICMINER-PT
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.522746 / 1.66735 / 1.78 (521 shares, 868.7 BTC), 7D: 1.24 / 1.48112 / 1.78 (3486 shares, 5163.2 BTC), 30D: 0.79 / 1.30057 / 1.78 (8684 shares, 11294.1 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 365 @ 0.0015 = 0.5475 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00068707 = 0.6871 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.016679 = 0.3169 BTC [-]
KRS-1: is this the beginning of the bear
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.016679 = 0.5004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.016679 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4646 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.016679 = 0.4837 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.449 = 4.041 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.90000, Best ask: 111.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 111.90000, 24 hour volume: 84762.14601332, 24 hour low: 109.42198, 24 hour high: 119.80002, 24 hour vwap: 115.01980
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.23 = 4.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01668 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01668 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4491 = 2.2455 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01668 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01668 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.016679 = 0.6838 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.449 = 2.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00068606 = 0.1372 BTC [-]