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adlai: nice one: https://twitter.com/kenhess/status/537683098453164033
assbot: Senator Tom Coburn agrees that Bitcoin is not legal currency via /ZDNet, /kenhess http://t.co/eSpwmKOHbq
BingoBoingo: adlai: Already dealt with http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/
assbot: Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtfA9n )
adlai: BingoBoingo: look at the specific tweet linked
adlai: this is like me asking mircea_popescu whether the reason that he talks so much about bitcoin is that he actually owns some himself
BingoBoingo: Oh, lol
BingoBoingo: !up thomas_d
thomas_d: hi
thomas_d: xanthyos ?
BingoBoingo: Lol, even the Obama Daughters can't take daddy Obola seriously http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QbNEYid3--/yf6kfgkd6icyznsk3jya.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmxtVZ )
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/
assbot: GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11vLAwt )
decimation: that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world
BingoBoingo: Text from the letter http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/#comment-2412
assbot: GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvNGv )
decimation: s/guarding/guardians/
BingoBoingo: What about Guar Dings.
decimation: lol from the comments: "You obviously hate poor people, the elderly, children, minorities - the list likely goes on and on. Inflation has been at record low levels for many years now, so your scare tactics go nowhere. Bitcoins only allow the greedy rich to evade paying their FAIR SHARE in taxes and the like, and their evil transactions are hidden from those who are tasked with protecting the common folk, like the honorable senator
decimation: from the article. Progress will not be impeded by the haters."
decimation: "fair share"..."progress"... these are religious sentiments
BingoBoingo: For people with free time http://underhandedcrypto.com/rules/
assbot: Rules | Underhanded Crypto Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvY4K )
BingoBoingo: !up OgNasty
kakobrekla: bad time to join cloakless
BingoBoingo: decimation: My favorite part is where nothing the Senator says supports the Author's claim in the way he thinks
decimation: ;;later tell ben_vulpes re: explain "usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes" << Well, I was thinking of the very straightforward sense in which the majority of humans on us territory receive more dollars from usg than give to usg.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: note that these 'payments' are mostly not direct transfers (checks from the treasury). They are mostly things like implicit guarantee to banks that usg will 'force solvency', health 'insurance' (free health care), and 'free' roads.
decimation: One might protest: but they pay taxes too! Except - the eitc rebates much of the tax.
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah the way I read the letter it's pretty clear that the writer flipped the 'crazy bit'
BingoBoingo: decimation: Either that or the lazy bit...
BingoBoingo: Or the "Oh noes, my 401k" bit
decimation: mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement' ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00039487 = 18.2035 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ar--rifle-stolen-from-st-louis-county-police-car/article_81836345-b8b6-5dd5-8efd-b76be291afc7.html
assbot: AR-15 rifle stolen from St. Louis County police car torched by rioters in Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwg4oK )
decimation: BingoBoingo: I like the story about the black folk who protect the white-owned gas station
BingoBoingo: decimation: I thought that story was a gun store, not a gas station
decimation: "One exception - a Conoco gas station and convenience store."
BingoBoingo: Ah, Story
BingoBoingo: 's more boring than I thought
decimation: one wonders why more folks in Ferguson don't have a similar attitude - if for no other reason than the "don't shit where you eat" principle
mircea_popescu: ahh the weather here is so pleasant
decimation: in general, franchise businesses avoid setting up shop in us ghettos for exactly this reason
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well you have to consider North St Louis COunty ghettos aren't THAT compartamentalized. Most people looting weren't hitting where they eat
mod6: decimation: from the other night, this is what sticks out in my mind: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2014#934115 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2014 04:00:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the rats set fire to the lab, what'd you expect they'd burn ? the cages or the files ?
mircea_popescu: Bruce Fenton @brucefenton · 7h7 hours ago @kenhess Do I own Bitcoin? I see your research into me is about as weak as your article.
mircea_popescu: Ken Hess @kenhess · 7h7 hours ago @brucefenton I don't bother researching rancid Twitterati. And I don't care what you believe that you are. Again, do you own any Bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: ahem. how come all poor research is always defended in the same manner,
mircea_popescu: and with the same mannerisms ?
mircea_popescu: relatedly, how would one distinguish ken from tim ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: maybe this ken guy knows mr. flood
decimation: they appear to have a similar attitude toward civilized behavior
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: assbot talks to me now
mircea_popescu: <decimation> that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world << hence http://trilema.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/
assbot: Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwhP5d )
mircea_popescu: what else did you think the something awful interest in bitcoin is and has been powered by, all these years.
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, the progre's relation to bitcoin is fat ugly chick in your class that keeps calling you up and passing you notes in class, dozens of times a day. the content is all about how "women like to be treated" and "what makes a good man", but...
decimation: mircea_popescu: the reaction to bitcoin (by non-bitcoin holders) seems to fall into two camps: 1 - bitcoin sucks because I don't have any or 2. bitcoin sucks so I need to steal some
mircea_popescu: the hope is that you may give a shit.
mod6: haha
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that sums it up nicely
mircea_popescu: <decimation> mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement' << the problem there is that they actually DID work, and should have some money. problem is, in typical tardstalk fashion, they got scammed and having nothing left, are now siding with the scammer.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Number 1 tends to be incredibly popular amongst people who have other things
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah pretty much as mircea just outlined
Vexual: so 10 and twenties have more to worry about?
decimation: "I got scammed so we are gonna scam you"
mircea_popescu: decimation just look at all the glbse fanbois who TO THIS DAY prefer to derp instead of admitting that mpoe-pr was right and they were stupid.
Vexual: surely the scamming wont continue forever, due to satoshi being a wizard
BingoBoingo: Nah, 2 seems more popular amongst people who never had anything except through scams of their own
mircea_popescu: then there was a period of ken slaugther powered nonsense, where the losers made threads about how mpex is teh scientology.
mircea_popescu: and on it will go, for as long as there's something standing the zombies will try to crowd it out while pretending it ain't standing.
BingoBoingo: I think the Ken SLaughter nonsense crowd moved on to GAW apologias, almost to a person
mircea_popescu: the "i want to believe" crowd.
mircea_popescu: the only spawn of democracy, really. they fit with the electoral cycle really well. today, derp goes "i shall make money out of cockroaches, just have to have a pile large enough". they spend a year piling up cockroaches. no money appears, but just in time for...
mircea_popescu: 4 years from now, "different" derp, "i will make money out of frogs"
mircea_popescu: they collect frogs for a while... whatever, if it works free money and if itdoesn't at least it wasn't work.
mircea_popescu: this can keep on for as long as how did it go "evil people refuse to pay their fair share".
decimation: When I read something like that I think of that little rat Marat
mircea_popescu: fuck em, who cares. they can starve chanting whatever they please to chant.
mircea_popescu: "fair share" or "hail mary", same difference.
decimation: at least "hail mary" doesn't generally end with "let's break out dr. guillotine"
mircea_popescu: ;;google "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC"
gribble: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.3580>; CoinPrism to challenge Cloud Mining Giants | Bitcoinist.net: <http://bitcoinist.net/coinprism-to-challenge-cloud-mining-giants/>; CFO – GAW Miners – Bloomfield, CT - Coinality: <https://coinality.com/jobs/cfo-gaw-miners-bloomfield-ct/>
mircea_popescu: dude this is broken somehow.
mircea_popescu: a) none of those pages contains the string and b) as far as i can determine, the only site on the internet containing it is the qntra article.
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22My+law+firm+represents+GAW+Miners,+LLC%22&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << like so.
assbot: "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC" - Google zoeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwkE6k )
mircea_popescu: anyway, nice going you two.
BingoBoingo: Thank you
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: whats the story regarding the hostile ddos bot assbot mentions?
BingoBoingo: !up GrandHierophant
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: hallelujah
ben_vulpes: now to test new bouncer under laptop close and reopen scenario
ben_vulpes: ;;ping
gribble: pong
ben_vulpes: ;;ping
gribble: pong
Vexual: you bought a man phone vuples?
ben_vulpes: getting there, vex. getting there.
ben_vulpes: well a day later and a new emacs/irc toolchain in place
ben_vulpes: for the curious:
Vexual: android?
ben_vulpes: weechat has its own relay protocol, and someone wrote a half-decent emacs mode for it.
ben_vulpes: Vexual: nah, i roll with iphones.
ben_vulpes: !s mortgaged mac
assbot: 3 results for 'mortgaged mac' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mortgaged+mac
Vexual: oh yes, i forget, but i was being facetious anyway
ben_vulpes: we'll see how well it handles long disconnect periods.
ben_vulpes: https://www.refheap.com/94079 << i wanted to make it a bit more functional, eg bind the return string from decryption to a thing but...elisp man.
assbot: anonymous's paste: 94079 ... ( http://bit.ly/1rnFv1d )
ben_vulpes: Vexual: when the "android" "platform" isn't a total shitshow, maybe then.
Vexual: yeah
ben_vulpes: more likely i'll have moved off of "smart" phones at that point.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00039643 = 12.9434 BTC [+] {2}
mats_cd03: the #1 thing keeping me on android is now the functionality i get with the moto x
mats_cd03: the always on mic, while creepy, is ungodly useful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00039254 = 19.3915 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11854 @ 0.00038826 = 4.6024 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: record lows on teh mpoe
mats_cd03: i wonder if its the 5% private investor unloading shares thats causing this action
mats_cd03: ...or maybe its just a reaction to BTCUSD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89850 @ 0.00039879 = 35.8313 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: btcusd?
ben_vulpes: well you see it hasn't gone up in weeks, WEEKS i tell you!
mats_cd03: mp noted once that share price correlates with fiat price of btc
ben_vulpes: i'll wait for the data on that one
mats_cd03: and that this latest movement might be a delayed reaction
ben_vulpes: or the analysis i should say
ben_vulpes: that said i can construct like 5 narratives to support it
ben_vulpes: this, however, is a good reason to not be a trader.
mats_cd03: i enjoy the rush from trading on the volatility
ben_vulpes: ever tried cocaine?
ben_vulpes: well fuck you, jenkins
ben_vulpes: lol "enable security stuff" button in jenkins immediately locked me out
ben_vulpes sighs, rolls up sleeves
mats_cd03: i dun enjoy the drip from insufflating drugs
ben_vulpes: dissolve it into alcohol, enjoy boner-inducing synergy
thestringpuller: does ti really matter?
ben_vulpes: ahaha well it only appears to lock you out, then it throws up the "no users - surely this http visitor is the prophesiesed admin user!" screen
mats_cd03: my social media is being polluted by social justice warriors
thestringpuller: and this is why I'm playing sim city
mats_cd03: all i got to say is ... you come at the king, you best not miss
thestringpuller: if you cut taxes to 0 everything is ok!
thestringpuller: :D
decimation: mats_cd03: to which king do you refer?
mats_cd03: 5-0
decimation: heh yeah
mats_cd03: the king's men, in this case.
decimation: Think of it in “Lux Aeterna" as moldbug would say. The interesting thing really is to examine this completely artificial crisis - who benefits?
mats_cd03: as seen on my social media https://i.imgur.com/zhCnIBB.jpg << "while you were sleeping BLACK LIVES WERE LIVING A NIGHTMARE"
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjIvfu )
mats_cd03: delicious luls
cazalla: http://www.startupsmart.com.au/technology/rights-to-bitcoincomau-sold-former-owner-cites-possible-malware-isssues/2014112713716.html
assbot: Rights to bitcoin.com.au sold, former owner cites possible malware isssues ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjIR5K )
cazalla: i still stand by the article, it was a policy delete, seems unlikely they would complain against themselves and drop it without any consideration for reselling simply because it is allegly banned from facebook
ben_vulpes: cazalla: which article?
cazalla: ben_vulpes, this one http://qntra.net/2014/11/digital-btc-lose-bitcoin-com-au-by-mistake/
assbot: Digital BTC Lose Bitcoin.com.au By Mistake | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjJbBr )
decimation: cazalla: but he had no idea about the domain or its owner when he paid $A27000 for it
cazalla: plus i spoke to the guy who owned it last year and knew the ABN was expired then, could've dobbed him in and bid on it myself at the time but not something i'd do but super common in .com.au land
cazalla: decimation, it went to the drops, you don't need to know anything about previous owner
mats_cd03: decimation: i don't really care tbh. im armed, and god help anyone who thinks they're a better shot. i know how to kill a four man team breaching my home.
decimation: cazalla: I guess my point is that one might be a little curious before bidding such a sum
cazalla: decimation, i don't really follow
ben_vulpes: cazalla: this got you kicked from twitter?
mats_cd03: i sound like BB after he's had a few.
decimation: cazalla: maybe I'm daft, but in the link you just posted Tsvetnenko said: "“The domain in question was acquired with the possibility of being used for marketing purposes. Unfortunately it was discovered the domain has some serious issues not disclosed by the original vendor, which make it severely restricted in use if not valueless for any purchaser – I’m reserving my rights of recourse in that respect,"
cazalla: ben_vulpes, nah, "violent threats" did of which i didn't even make any
cazalla: decimation, yeah i guess you would say that if you didn't want to go to shareholders and say oh, i fucked up and lost this asset
decimation: so if you take him at his word, he apparently failed to notice the serious issues with the property
cazalla: decimation, the site redirected to localbitcoins forevarr
cazalla: maybe it was hijacked, who knows but you would still let something like that go for free instead of just fixing the issue?
decimation: which of course is much better (in his mind) than simply failing to update it
cazalla: because if people know you can't even secure a domain, pretty unlikely to then give you bitcoins in the wallet you're about to launch eh
decimation: hehe exactly
decimation: in either case, he isn't saying that he fucked up
ben_vulpes: "due diligence"
decimation: just that he fucked up in a slightly fancier way than you allege
decimation: I mean to say "he isn't saying that he didn't fuck up"
decimation: at any rate, I think this is a good sign, you are digging the right dirt
decimation: maybe you can run another story "Tsvetnenko admits to failure of due dilligence; has just discovered the principle of caveat emptor"
ben_vulpes: diligence
ben_vulpes: hate to pedant at you but that one gets up my nose decimation
cazalla: would be a short one
decimation: my damn spell check craps out
ben_vulpes: spell check?
decimation: hehe yeah, hunspell
cazalla: at the end of the day, no-one can disprove what he is now saying as auDA don't release the details of who made the complaint, sure it's possible he did this himself, highly unlikely
ben_vulpes: lol i rely on humspell
ben_vulpes: as in "a human spelled it"
ben_vulpes: :P
decimation: in my past I used to be good at spelling; then I used spell check and wrote code for a decade
ben_vulpes: "i don't need programmers to be *good* spellers, i need them to be *consistent* spellers"
decimation: ben_vulpes: did you get erc and your bouncer server thingy running successfully?
kuzetsa: hello :)
mats_cd03: wb
decimation: revolutionary greetings
kuzetsa: mats_cd03: thanks. I don't talk much on freenode lately O_O
ben_vulpes: decimation: oh yeah
ben_vulpes: decimation: i've been meaning to ask - what is your irc toolchain?
decimation: I just use dumb konversation
kuzetsa: I'm pretty bad at networking in the social interaction sense :(
decimation: it sucks because it doesn't recognize any emacs keybindings
kuzetsa: decimation: isn't that the KDE one?
decimation: yeah
decimation: I'm generally partial to kde when I try to stomach linux desktop 'managers'
kuzetsa: I've used seamonkey's chatzilla before. it's not awful.
decimation: I kinda want to avoid mozilla stuff as much as I can on principle
kuzetsa: even firefox?
decimation: unfortunately firefox is kind of a defacto standard
kuzetsa: I had a bad experience with firefox a few years ago. some greasemonkey stuff was part of my workflow and broke severely several versions in a row
decimation: it leaks memory like crazy and is generally shit code
kuzetsa: performance issues and lack of backward compatibility made me swear off firefox
decimation: plus the way they railroaded brendan eich put them on my 'enemies' list
kuzetsa: but now I'm considering giving the mobile version of firefox a chance on my mobile device one of these gays
kuzetsa: days :
kuzetsa: :/
decimation: heh
mats_cd03: har
fluffypony: I switched back to Safari a few months ago because it has the least battery impact on my MacBook
kuzetsa: my brain did a weird thing there... that's not an easy typo to make. sorry.
fluffypony: and I've grown to like it
decimation: kuzetsa: no but it was unintentionally amusing given my earlier comment
kuzetsa: yeah, I like chrome personally. It's pretty cpu-efficient.
kuzetsa: mhm? which earlier comment?
decimation: about brendan eich
fluffypony: Chrome is nice, but still does ~30% more battery drain than Safari in OS X
kuzetsa: brb, sudden crafving for a bowl of serial
kuzetsa: oh god that's not evven
fluffypony: LOL
kuzetsa: I can't type today
fluffypony: at least you don't need a bowl of parallel
decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison
kuzetsa: what's a brendan eich?
kuzetsa: it almost resembles a name
fluffypony: decimation: pretty much, you're damned either way
decimation: http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/128448-mozilla-ceo-sen-leland-yee-contrast-hysteria/
assbot: Media Lynch Mob Takes Down Mozilla CEO & Ignores Alleged Terrorist Gun-Running Democrat Leland Yee ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjNwF1 )
decimation: he was the ceo of mozilla that was 'lynched' out of office because at one time in the past he gave some money to "pro-prop 8"
decimation: which was a california plebiscite to make gay marriage illegal
decimation: therefore he was a Bad Person
kuzetsa: http://postfoods.com/our-brands/great-grains/raisins,-dates-pecans/ <<< cereal, I just had a brain oopsie
assbot: Great Grains - Raisin, Dates & Pecans Nutrition Information | Post Foods ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjOBwp )
decimation: mozilla is basically a google puppet anyway http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/01/22/so-why-is-google-funding-its-own-competition-in-the-firefox-os/
assbot: So Why Is Google Funding Its Own Competition In The Firefox OS? - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjOLnw )
mats_cd03: !s dead cat bounce
assbot: 5 results for 'dead cat bounce' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=dead+cat+bounce
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 370.79, Best ask: 370.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 371.94, 24 hour volume: 12206.65649767, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 377.96, 24 hour vwap: 370.024814316
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.0003953 = 16.8398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0003953 = 7.3526 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nice assbot pm kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: clear an' to the point. anyone pm you bout it?
PinkPosixPXE: ;;later tell ben_vulpes sure friend. :P
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: omaygawd im seeing pixies!
PinkPosixPXE: hehe
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: mp noted once that share price correlates with fiat price of btc << actually the private joke at the time was that it doesn't seem to correlate at all (it didn't move during the early mtgox induced runup to 1.2k). so i was kinda tongue-in-cheek referencing that "public knowledge" as it became apparently contradicted by the otherwise who the fuck knows what it's doing s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: that said i can construct like 5 narratives to support it << hey, me too!
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: my social media is being polluted by social justice warriors << the welfare state has succeeded in breeding a new type of cockroach.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: cazalla: this got you kicked from twitter? << twitter is broken in that if you spam it with "complaints" it will autolock accounts. trivial to hassle anyone you feel like, and the powerless generally revel in this sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: course the part where it's like... "you're banned from that shop run by retards you didn't really like or need but visited to support the mentally feeble" doesn't quite breach their consciousness.
mircea_popescu: being mentally feeble and all.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^ i dun think it's working lol
mircea_popescu: cazalla: because if people know you can't even secure a domain, pretty unlikely to then give you bitcoins in the wallet you're about to launch eh <<< don't be ridiculous. "people" would give bitcoin to a boy with no arms that'll hate you if you don't please forward this email to all your fb friends,
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: hate to pedant at you but that one gets up my nose decimation <<< i kinds feel responsible for the dilligence bs.
mircea_popescu: dear world : i apologize for having come up with fucking double l diligence. it's because i can't spel wortha shit. i promise to work harder at it.
mircea_popescu: !up kuzetsa
mircea_popescu: so how goes ?
punkman: double d diligence is better
mircea_popescu: dildo-gence ?
mircea_popescu: decimation: unfortunately firefox is kind of a defacto standard << o srsly ? check it out, and i never used it! ima go to hipster heaven now.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
mircea_popescu: ello toots.
indiancandy1: hi babes
indiancandy1: how are you
mircea_popescu: pretty great actually.
indiancandy1: ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, you know of teh aleks toots - herman simm case ? pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison <<< yeah, isn't chrome basically one of those spammy "toolbars" they had for netscape that sort-of mutated into being its own browser ? ☟︎
kuzetsa: true dildo-gence is very attractive
mircea_popescu: lol
kuzetsa: hey you
kuzetsa: :)
kuzetsa: did ya miss me?
mircea_popescu: mmm...
kuzetsa: hehe
mircea_popescu: ;;rated kuzetsa
gribble: You have not yet rated user kuzetsa
mircea_popescu: but i don't even know you!
kuzetsa: we've talked a couple times months ago
kuzetsa: ... in here
mircea_popescu: yes yes i know i know.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated mod6
gribble: You rated user mod6 on Fri Aug 10 20:47:35 2012, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Trustworthy..
kuzetsa: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user kuzetsa to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kuzetsa&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
kuzetsa: mmm, neat
mircea_popescu: ;;rate mod6 4 The "cave, age, tace" school of thought. Nice work with the Bitcoin Foundation.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate ben_vulpes
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated ben_vulpes
gribble: You rated user ben_vulpes on Sat Feb 1 00:51:50 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: The original Cascadian..
mircea_popescu: ;;rated ben_vulpes 3 Co-chair of Bitcoin Foundation.
gribble: (rated <nick>) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to <nick>, if any.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate ben_vulpes 3 Co-chair of Bitcoin Foundation.
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n6: hey i got some bunk rating with you
n6: im no trader
n6: mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: n6 aha ?
mircea_popescu: n6 i dun recall, what was this aboot ?
n6: friend of mine and me thought we might get on your exchange to check it out a bit, but we failed to do everything right and sent the wrong key but when i can came in irc you gave me trader rank but we never followed through.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: well okay then!
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate n6
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated BingoBoingo
gribble: You rated user BingoBoingo on Tue Mar 25 20:14:18 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: blogger, my ATC investment banker.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BingoBoingo 4 qntra.net second officer. Ran a F.MPIF profit center before that without problems.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated moiety
gribble: You rated user moiety on Sat Jun 14 08:57:36 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Good secretary and logistics mastergirl..
mircea_popescu: ;;rate moiety 1 #b-a ex-secretary.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user moiety has changed from 2 to 1.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated kreal
gribble: You rated user kreal on Tue Jul 26 01:08:44 2011, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: bought 60btc via pp, smooth..
mircea_popescu: the days lol.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated punkman
gribble: You rated user punkman on Sun Oct 26 16:38:08 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: improved on my spec!.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate punkman 3 Head of Serenissima Notarial Services (SNS).
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated cazalla
gribble: You rated user cazalla on Fri Oct 10 19:05:29 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: qntra.net chief editor..
mircea_popescu: ;;rate cazalla 3 Master of the scoop. qntra.net editor a la mode.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 2 to 3.
cazalla: i have scoop of scoops very soon
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kolinko
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate eightyeight
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate bitdragon
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Hasbro
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate comboy
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate ted_stanley
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate teward
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Girlfawkesy
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mircea_popescu: !up wao
ben_vulpes: updating the barony list soon?
mircea_popescu: hey how come you never rated anyone ? didja lose the key or something ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes at conference i imagine.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate b00lcrap
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ben_vulpes: convictions
ben_vulpes: nite!
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate johntraveller
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ben_vulpes: wait hang on one last pun
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated DanielKrawisz
gribble: You rated user DanielKrawisz on Fri Oct 3 00:40:52 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy..
ben_vulpes: what do you call an armed hasid
mircea_popescu: heh, i guess that lasted like almost a full month ?
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate DanielKrawisz
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes an armhasid ?
ben_vulpes: danjewrous
ben_vulpes: lady v has one as well
ben_vulpes: what's the hasid's favorite sidearm
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: a chickra ?
ben_vulpes: the orthoglock
ben_vulpes: (s)
mircea_popescu: uhm.
mircea_popescu: i dun get it ?
ben_vulpes: orthodox
mircea_popescu: ...
ben_vulpes: orthoglocks
mircea_popescu: maybe the vulpes denhold does not readily understan what these buns are.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate sexy_saffron
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ben_vulpes: denhold?
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate bitfoo
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mircea_popescu: you know, like a household.
ben_vulpes: oh den mhm
mircea_popescu: ;;rated the20year
gribble: You rated user the20year on Mon Jul 14 14:12:25 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Hasn't run off yet..
mircea_popescu: ;;rate the20year -1 If you believe him you're stuck crediting a large pile of very improbable things, such as that no one out of dozen low income renters is interested in cashing ~50 bux worth of free BTC, or that buyers somehow materialize on Havelock to buy shares at 2x the going price for a single IPO day.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user the20year has changed from 1 to -1.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Michail1 tell me more re this the20year squatter business ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust the20year1
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user the20year1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=the20year1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year1 | Rated since: never
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust ben_vulpes the20year1
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user the20year1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=the20year1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year1 | Rated since: never
punkman: the20year gave free BTC to tenants?
mircea_popescu: punkman no, i did.
ben_vulpes: lol wrote a post on the guy's scam and never rated him
ben_vulpes: ;;rated the20year
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mircea_popescu: punkman if you recall, i paid nubbins to make some posters for the guy's tenants, redeemable for .1 each. nobody redeemed. since... i dunno, august ? something.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of unredeemed coupons b4.
punkman: oh guess I missed that, thought the20year bought the posters
mircea_popescu: well if he did nubbins has some 'splainin' to do lol.
punkman: heh
mircea_popescu: if you care i can dig up the discussion in teh logs.
ben_vulpes: ;;rate the20year routinely freezes trading of his assets on havelock to "sell" shares at ~2x market rate. utter mystery, explanations inadequate.
gribble: Error: 'routinely' is not a valid integer.
ben_vulpes: ;;rate the20year -1 routinely freezes trading of his assets on havelock to "sell" shares at ~2x market rate. utter mystery, explanations inadequate.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user the20year has been recorded.
ben_vulpes: ;;rate mrstickball -1 in cahoots with the20year
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user mrstickball has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: who is that anyway
ben_vulpes: okay now ams bed
ben_vulpes: "twin brother"?
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot mrstickball
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mrstickball: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mrstickball | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickball | Rated since: Fri Jul 5 18:09:54 2013
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot the20year
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: Tue Apr 29 11:21:55 2014
mircea_popescu: diametric you know you're leaking ipv6 right ?
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/the-bitcoin-com-au-story-continues/
assbot: The Bitcoin.com.au Story Continues | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn3JqH )
ben_vulpes: perhaps ratpoison could alter its name to confuse the dosser?
mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4
gribble: You rated user BlueMeanie4 on Tue Aug 26 18:09:56 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Marx sez : never trust a capitalist..
mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BlueMeanie4 has changed from 1 to 1.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 -1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BlueMeanie4 has changed from 1 to -1.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's proper-er.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen bgupta
gribble: bgupta was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <bgupta> gobimint making ti really hard to know where to show up and say "I am sparticus!"
mircea_popescu: strangely enough guy hasn't logged into his wot acct since 2011.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated bgupta
gribble: You rated user bgupta on Thu Apr 17 17:47:07 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
fluffypony: wow ratings ratings and moar ratings
mircea_popescu: ;;rate bgupta -1 All outgoing ratings from 2011, someone by this username still chatting. Suspicious to my eye.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bgupta has changed from 1 to -1.
fluffypony: ;;rated cazalla
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mircea_popescu: sorry fluffypony but i wanna have the record of it.
fluffypony: ;;rate cazalla ozzie who writes with passion and awesomeness
gribble: Error: 'ozzie' is not a valid integer.
fluffypony: ;;rate cazalla 1 ozzie who writes with passion and awesomeness
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Jezzz
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate disident
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated diana_coman
gribble: You rated user diana_coman on Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: None.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate diana_coman 2 Made Eulora Windows compile guide ; main engine behind http://trilema.com/2014/the-power-of-the-press-in-english-this-time/#footnote_14_58065
assbot: The power of the press, in English this time. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HHZrRo )
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate wangxinxi
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fluffypony: I miss pankkake
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate DreadKnight
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mircea_popescu: i kinda miss him too!
mircea_popescu: !up psychouroboros
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate grubles
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fluffypony: ;;rated rg
gribble: You rated user rg on Sat Aug 9 17:46:06 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: How far the mighty have fallen. Had no problems dealing with him, but he has subsequently reneged on laosn with a number of people..
fluffypony: can't spellink, apparently
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate dgeats
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fluffypony: ;;rate rg -1 How far the mighty have fallen. Had no problems dealing with him, but he has subsequently reneged on loans with a number of people.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from -1 to -1.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated rg
gribble: You rated user rg on Wed Jan 16 17:32:04 2013, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: from what I understand person no longer has sole control of private key..
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Oleanie
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate MarieLynn
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated wywialm
gribble: You rated user wywialm on Tue Apr 15 11:18:52 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate wywialm 2 Polish econ guy.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated Jamesonwa
gribble: You rated user Jamesonwa on Thu Sep 18 21:55:38 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Voice.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Jamesonwa
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated Xiando
gribble: You rated user Xiando on Fri Oct 10 22:57:56 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Xiando
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mircea_popescu: ;;unrate adlai
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mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=aethero&sign=ANY&type=RECV << lawl o brother.
assbot: Rating Details for User 'aethero' ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI0iBt )
mircea_popescu: full fucking page of -10s, not dented.
mircea_popescu: see kakobrekla ? that's a good total trust!
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1crieg/a_tale_of_money_laundering_and_targetted_scamming/ old drama time.
assbot: A tale of money laundering and targetted scamming : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI0DUH )
mircea_popescu: raving lunacy aside, there IS an excellent reason convicted mobsters in breach of the terms of their parole (vleisides, bfl) been supported by vessenes's pseudo-foundation all through.
punkman: https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/537709222885330945
assbot: Stop calling /kenhess a "paid shill." I think he genuinely thinks poorly of Bitcoin. I wonder if he's willing to debate me on the topic?
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate novusordo
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mircea_popescu: i on the other hand think he genuinely thinks poorly as a process.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kanzure
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cazalla: had to remove bitcoin story, will update soon
mircea_popescu: dun remove stories.
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate herbijudlestoids
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punkman: they found satoshi again http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2nicip/found_this_gem_newsgroups_from_2002/
assbot: Found this gem newsgroups from 2002 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn9AMP )
mircea_popescu: can they find satoshi in the body of a hot chick so i can get behind the find for once ?
mircea_popescu: punkman lmao wtf bs reddit scam crap is that ?!
mircea_popescu: you'd have to be one of these fucktarded kids to think this stands.
mircea_popescu: 500 votes 200 comments heh... i guess that's that.
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;rated errydayimgenerat
gribble: You rated user errydayimgenerat on Thu Mar 15 14:29:52 2012, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: owes on loan, dissapeared..
mircea_popescu: ^ me getting scammed.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i burn a source if i leave it, issue isn't publishing, it's quoting email verbatim, i thought he was ok with but is not, he is going to have his source contact me to clarify things so will be another story
punkman: I got scammed once but then I got my monies back
mircea_popescu: cazalla heh ok but listen, gotta proof these better somehow or something.
mircea_popescu: un-publishin just doesn't work on the internets and is stupid generally.
mircea_popescu: punkman guy was a trannie iirc.
punkman: who?
mircea_popescu: erryday guy
mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kyrio
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fluffypony: ERRDAY
punkman: mircea_popescu: how many BTC was the loan?
mircea_popescu: 3 iirc ?
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: holy shit i'm done!
punkman: spring cleaning eh
mircea_popescu: yeah basically.
mircea_popescu: eventually had a one too many case where someone went "hey, how about x", me pulling a blankl and then they going "but you rated em ?"
mircea_popescu: wots gots be maintained.
n6: are you ever going to bring back blog.b-a? rss site or has qntra replaced that?
mircea_popescu: n6 well peterl was working on scoopbot, areplacement. for unclear reasons it's down 90% of the time.
mircea_popescu: i guess someone should pick up and do it.
RagnarDanneskjol: i will... kind of already working on it actually
mircea_popescu: ah ?
mircea_popescu: well cool then!
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - a sort of log review / b-a blog aggregator thing
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: make a ping endpoint so you don't have to poll the rss
RagnarDanneskjol: oh. ok
punkman: for reference: http://www.weblogs.com/api.html
assbot: Weblogs.com : API ... ( http://bit.ly/1vndaqa )
RagnarDanneskjol: tanks
mircea_popescu: that's not a bad idea, but gotta be able to filter teh wp ddos noob then
cazalla: mircea_popescu> cazalla heh ok but listen, gotta proof these better somehow or something <<< i have the proof, source didn't make clear what he was comfortable with what was published as does not want to be identified
mircea_popescu: cazalla i mean "to proof", like, "to clear" or w/e. you know, making sure it's all ok.
cazalla: or do you mean proof read? yes that needs work too
mircea_popescu: !up Omeo
mircea_popescu: fwiw http://www.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/ is pretty cool.
assbot: Welcome to FMRIB — Functional MRI of the Brain (FMRIB) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI41Pz )
cazalla: are you saying i need my head checked or something
cazalla: i hated having mri's done, my worst fear is that someone sticks me in a cement sewer tube and buries me in the ground while water runs over my face and the pipe slowly fills with water until i drown.. mri bit similar in that cramped and tubular
mircea_popescu: cazalla lol no, guy from thre joined earlier.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60400 @ 0.00040608 = 24.5272 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: btw, do you know how that chinese emperess chick killed the other chick the emperor fucked ?
cazalla: aids? i nfi what you reference
RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.amazon.com/Wu-Chinese-Empress-Schemed-Murdered/dp/0750939613
assbot: Amazon.com: Wu: The Chinese Empress Who Schemed, Seduced and Murdered Her Way to Become a Living God (9780750939614): Jonathan Clements: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnfAVP )
mircea_popescu: cazalla Lu Zhi had some chick buried in the outhouse.
cazalla: alive?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: so she could take a shit on her.
mircea_popescu: "She then had Concubine Qi's limbs chopped off, blinded her by gouging out her eyes, cut off her tongue and locked her in the latrine, and called her a "Human Swine" (人彘). Several days after, Emperor Hui saw the "Human Swine", and after realising that it who the "Human Swine" was, the emperor was so sick of his mother's cruelty that he virtually relinquished his authority and indulged in carnal pleasures."
cazalla: awful, my fear comes from when i was a kid, we use to ride our skateboards down the inside of the water drains, one day they dig a big trench of new but much smaller ones, i decide to climb in, get stuck like bishop in aliens when he wriggles to the other computer to fly the ship, started screaming get me out get me out, not really stuck, just difficult to wriggle backwards
cazalla: well, they say asians are cruel to animals so no surprise there
mircea_popescu: anyway. wu zetian was more of a badass than a raving psychopath.
mircea_popescu: what was it, "give me an iron whip, an iron hammer and an iron dagger and get lost"
RagnarDanneskjol: yea -she was the only killer empress I could recall
fluffypony: so realistic: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e27_1327440153&t=1
assbot: LiveLeak.com - Bones: Embedding a malware fractal into Bone ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnhuFN )
mircea_popescu: wow is that what i imagine it is ?!
mircea_popescu: such disappoint.
mircea_popescu: anyway, here's what i thought it was : bones are constructed more or less on a micro basis. it is perhaps possible to construct such a bone configuration that if inserted into a human bone it completely destroyes the pattern and creates a never ending always expanding bone mass.
mircea_popescu: similarly to how the "computer always loses" pattern of guessing works for asciilifeform's markov chain simulator,
mircea_popescu: on the theory that bones are built by a markov process of the same type.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like a prion for bones. an insoluble problem made out of shape.
cazalla: xanthyos, we can rebuild your cock!
punkman: another tor mitm story http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2njz9j/blockchaininfo_wallet_robbed/
assbot: Blockchain.info wallet robbed : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnjNJ9 )
cazalla: but andreas worked at blockchain so it's gotta be bulletproof
punkman: and the solution is some kind of bulletproof tor blocking https://github.com/blockchain/Checksum/commit/e478bcc03a081c640dfaac36d3c7a8650d2e0b7b
assbot: Add TOR filter to request blocker · e478bcc · blockchain/Checksum · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnkfHo )
mircea_popescu: lolwut
mircea_popescu: these idiots using blockchain wallets through tor are perhaps the exact opposite of security and anonimity.
mircea_popescu: basically, the only way to make sure ANYONE who cares knows about your shit is doing that. it's more public than facebook.
punkman: some other guy lost 250+ BTC supoosedly
mircea_popescu: i pity the fate of btc stuck with such idiots
mircea_popescu: that;s right : i have more empathy for the god damned coins than for the derps involved.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00041472 = 9.5386 BTC [+]
nubbins`: dat hostile ddos bot
nubbins`: ok so my laptop lost power abruptly and i think my bitcoind VM is hosed
nubbins`: "errors" : "WARNING: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."
punkman: corrupted database?
nubbins`: probably. debug.log is all like:
nubbins`: ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 190b9373da mapTransactions prev not found 1572ba70fe
nubbins`: ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 190b9373da
nubbins`: try, try again, i guess.
punkman: delete the latest blocks
nubbins`: hm, just delele latest blk000*.dat, err..?
punkman: yeah maybe blkindex too
danielpbarron: you didn't keep a backup?
nubbins`: "why would i keep a backup of a partially-downloaded blockchain?", he asked to himself, before muttering that it was probably to prevent things like this from happening
danielpbarron: that's another part of my bitcoind experience worth mentioning: make backups frequently
nubbins`: i actually intended to clone the VM when i got close to block 240k
nubbins`: so i could more-or-less easily check the wedge point
punkman: running the pathced 0.5 thing?
nubbins`: made it to 218k :/
danielpbarron: i had it get corrupted once after a week of running.. never again
nubbins`: not even patched, just stock 0.5.3
nubbins`: anyway looks like that did it punkman, it's checkin em pretty quickly now
nubbins`: i guess now that i've got a cloak, maybe i'll find out if these random power-downs are due to bad RAM or a 0-day
punkman: smooth seas don't make good sailors
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:well if he did nubbins has some 'splainin' to do lol. <<< nope, in fact, i am also mildly perturbed by the fact that i mailed over $4,000 of goods to the guy and we didn't even get a couple measly pictures out of it ☟︎☟︎
nubbins`: remember when he was all "most of our tenants don't have computers"
nubbins`: o.O
nubbins`: a better idea would have been maybe to give 'em to people of influence, but hindsight
punkman: how did the redeeming for 0.1 work btw?
nubbins`: they take a picture of themselves w/ the poster, show it to us
nubbins`: mp gives them money
nubbins`: i think the intention was for a bunch of poor nobodies from ohio to hang out here
punkman: yeah it does sound implausible that nobody has claimed one of those yet
nubbins`: well he got 'em and was all like "can i give one to each of my employees? my kids? etc etc?"
nubbins`: thenewdeal was on my ass so much about giving him a rating for buying a couple posters
nubbins`: imagine, rating someone because they bought an item from you :0
nubbins`: here we go
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833936 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2014 17:37:06; The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I'm going to write up a letter/note and give a poster & instructions to each one of my tenants, then offer a discount if they use BTC to pay for their rent( even if it's a fraction of the rent). But that will only account for 15 of the 50 posters, so I was gonna run a few contests on our FB page (If that's ok with you?) for the remainder
nubbins`: triple facepalm
mircea_popescu: nubbins` due diligence ain't free eh.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> anyway looks like that did it punkman, it's checkin em pretty quickly now << yeah needed a reindex.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> i guess now that i've got a cloak, maybe i'll find out if these random power-downs are due to bad RAM or a 0-day << 99% they're due to transients from your power source.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/King's_Bounty_girls_at_Igromir_2012.jpg << this has got to be the saddest promotion effort.
mircea_popescu: srsly, these are booth babes nao ? and that cheap top sells video games ?
nubbins`: i did get a new battery recently
nubbins`: off-brand, natch
mircea_popescu: lol pete was an apple boi!
danielpbarron: ;;later tell BingoBoingo In a piece appearing on ZDnet today Ken Hess wrote a piece http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/ << he wrote a piece in a piece so I can read it while I read it?
assbot: Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtfA9n )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: kik
adlai: http://www.btcalpha.com/bitbet/ <- nice way to review all the insider info I don't have
assbot: BitBet Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZ9Djd )
adlai: and to whom it may concern... please consider using some website toolkit thingy that'd let me link straight to a specific heading
adlai: gotcha! mike_c ^
mike_c: noted.
jurov: http://what-if.xkcd.com/111/ :)
assbot: All the Money ... ( http://bit.ly/15DuejD )
mircea_popescu: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/11/16/fun-number-apple-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-russian-stock-market/
assbot: Fun Number: Apple Is Now Worth More Than The Entire Russian Stock Market - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/15DusHv )
mircea_popescu: in forbes this month : find out why and wherefore the most overvalued company of all time is "not at all" overvalued, because reasons unstated ; come see how their bezzle is not nearly as good as our bezzle, a fact directly proven by the happenstance that what our numbers show should be possible is directly and observably not possible
mircea_popescu: no wonder everyone in the us needs a college degree. there's no way native intelligence could deal with a tenth of the cognitive dissonance dished out on a daily basis. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Fx'd nao
mircea_popescu: !up younas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00040381 = 9.2271 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://zoltanlnagy.com/
assbot: Zoltan L. Nagy - Actor. Voiceover. Model. ... ( http://bit.ly/15DwCH5 )
mircea_popescu: " After a successful 25 year career in real estate and finance, Zoltan L Nagy has emerged as a versatile and reliable talent landing jobs in commercials, film, TV shows, print ads, industrials, radio & TV hosting and even some small movie roles."
mircea_popescu: o.O
adlai: kakobrekla: "Last block: 10 hours 38 minutes ago (331789)"
kakobrekla: >Last block: just now (331844)
adlai loves when technology advances sufficiently
kakobrekla: like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SXBFkAsJ1Y
assbot: Sateliti - Facebook - (Official video 2014) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/15DxWK7 )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/snow-cold-slow-third-night-of-protests-across-st-louis/article_a2cfa230-b200-5ecb-89f0-483a444bdc5e.html
assbot: Snow, cold slow third night of protests across St. Louis : News ... ( http://bit.ly/15DyVKg )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/federal-officials-investigating-fire-at-church-connected-to-michael-brown/article_e4b41d11-a02d-5956-b396-b67b36302410.html
assbot: Federal officials investigating fire at church connected to Michael Brown family : Lifestyles ... ( http://bit.ly/15DyWOl )
nubbins`: found a copy of 3d studio max r2 (w/ orange parallel port dongle!)
decimation: mircea_popescu: but the business model of stealing ideas from engelbart to built trinkets for those rich in bezzlars is a good one
mircea_popescu: decimation but the externality there is the bezzlars.
decimation: heh yeah
decimation: note that apple has no problem punishing customers
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: basically this is like saying "for as long as the usg prints money , this company can capture about 1.2-1.5% of it"
mircea_popescu: great fucking deal, well done. and a calender left out in the rain can catch some rainwater.
mircea_popescu: if, of course, it rains.
decimation: well if the rain stops everybody is fucked
mircea_popescu: which is exactly why you can't "sell apple and buy all russian paper + 1 ipad for each russian citizen"
mircea_popescu: nobody in his right mind would do this deal, and for that matter who the fuck wants the ipads.
decimation: conde nast would want to push ideas into peoples heads via ipads
decimation: http://usonianhistory.wordpress.com/
assbot: E Pluribus Usoniam | American history in new terms ... ( http://bit.ly/15DAkQS )
BingoBoingo: decimation: I thought Conde Nast was more concerned about stopping the bleeding
mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulziest part was all the inept tardstalk-level shilling, "o noes apple is not overvalued"
mircea_popescu: im sure it isn't. lawl.
decimation: wait, are you using tardstalk to refer to the bitcoin forum or the wall street newspapers
mircea_popescu: yes.
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0FRFKNG.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 2 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: it's a thing, amateur dude dabbling in finance.
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/alleged-plot-included-bombing-gateway-arch-killing-st-louis-county/article_69ddd938-e763-55c1-9c1c-3306725f941e.html
assbot: Alleged plot included bombing Gateway Arch, killing St. Louis County prosecutor : News ... ( http://bit.ly/15DAWGf )
BingoBoingo: ^ FBI once again sold them what they thought was a bomb
BingoBoingo: "The men wanted to acquire two more bombs, the sources said, but could not afford to do it until one suspect’s girlfriend’s Electronic Benefit Transfer card was replenished."
decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently usg isn't paying off the masses in bezzlars sufficiently
BingoBoingo: Apparently not.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: a decade ago, unscrupled salesmen sold some mentally slow old people 12 organs and 50 year's supply of toilet paper.
mircea_popescu: these days, unscrupled "fbi agents" sell mentally slow people "terrorism".
mircea_popescu: whatever pays the rent, i guess ?
decimation: well, I doubt being an fbi agent pays much rent honestly
mircea_popescu: how fortunate i'm not the judge this shit ends up in front of
mircea_popescu: first case in three centuries where the state ends up prosecuted for bringing a case.
decimation: http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.com/fbi-agent-salary.html
assbot: FBI Agent Salary | FBI Pay ... ( http://bit.ly/1FvfdwN )
decimation: join fbi - you could make $90k!
mircea_popescu: dude look! he could afford to buy like 1-2k prime asados!
mircea_popescu: o but wait... they don't exist where he lives.
mircea_popescu: hm. well... better save up buy an ipad then, turn it in for his share of the russian stock market later,
mircea_popescu: at the great conversion in the sky.
decimation: heh
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-com-au-lost-by-mistake/#comment-2465
assbot: Bitcoin.com.au Lost By Mistake | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FvfOOY )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.com/salary-for-jobs-in-homeland-security.html kinda lulzy
assbot: Salary for Jobs in Homeland Security & DHS Job Outlook ... ( http://bit.ly/15DCuQq )
decimation: so you gotta wonder what they think in wall st. when some $90k a year 'bigshot' walks in and presumes to tell them how to conduct business
mircea_popescu: "Cyber Security Specialist" << note how it's all round numbers ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that;s right : i have more empathy for the god damned coins than for the derps involved. << this.
mircea_popescu: "Godaddy sucks and it is a nightmare to register and transfer names using them." << doh.
decimation: anyone who has more than 18 mo. experience as a 'cyber security specialist' and has skills can easily clear over $100k
mircea_popescu: more than a doctor ?
mircea_popescu: poor md suckers, putting in 7 years
mircea_popescu: if only they weren't so retarded, and could learn the 18 month scriptkiddie thang.
decimation: mds in the us are basically insurance bureaucrats
mircea_popescu: wait, and hs "specialists" are james bond ?
decimation: they would like to think so. also bureaucrats
asciilifeform: nubbins`: 3d studio max r2 << 3d studio for msdos, last release - was the last really good proggy of that kind. i still use it now and again.
nubbins`: i tried picking up blender a few years ago but realized i just don't have the patience
nubbins`: i have a FOAF who's really into 3d modelling, did some work on the hive queen in ender's game
asciilifeform: 100k << who the fuck cares about this number. the only number worth caring about: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2014#924743 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2014 03:25:52; assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 01:35:27; asciilifeform: rephrase, if you like, as 'unit of discretionary income per unit of lost free time.'
nubbins`: hopefully better than a 1:1 ratio
decimation: asciilifeform: what kind of salary do you think a decent skript kiddie could fetch in your area?
jurov: http://iamsteve.in/2014/11/27/facebooks-real-name-policy-is-back/ faceboox doxing
assbot: Facebook’s Real Name Policy is Back | iamsteve.in – angry.scot ... ( http://bit.ly/15DEIPM )
asciilifeform: decimation: how on earth would i know? elect him president, 400k usd.
decimation: heh
mircea_popescu: ;;ud foaf
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FOAF | FOAF. Friend Of A Friend The way all good stories start ;). I heard from a FOAF that there's these twins named Lemonjello and Orangejello. Yeah, this pharmacist ...
adlai: ;;ud swim
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swim | S.W.I.M.. Acronym meaning: Someone Who Isn't Me But general use indicates that it is indeed the same person. S.W.I.M. decided to walk his dog today.
decimation: mircea_popescu: do you use opera?
nubbins`: for context, there's probably a thousand posts on drug forums that go something like "SWIM took a large dose of 25I-NBOMe and is feeling severe heart palpitations, and wonders if they should call 911"
nubbins`: or "a FOAF has been making honey oil and doesn't know why it's green instead of brown"
nubbins`: my favourites were always "i had a dream the other night..."
decimation: nubbins`: hey I have a question - is there somewhere in north america where one can order custom calendars?
decimation: as in, I supply the pdf or whatever and they send the printed result
decimation: all of the sites I have found seem to want you to 'build the calendar with their web 2.0 warez!'
nubbins`: "i had a dream last night where i made a solution of 1.0 g 5-benzyloxyindole in 20 mL Et2O, cooled it to 0 °C, vigorously stirred it, and treated it with 0.6 g oxalyl chloride in 10 mL Et2O, added dropwise, over the course of 0.5 h. my dream self wondered if a yellowish precipitate was normal. any thoughts?"
nubbins`: decimation almost assuredly.
nubbins`: try Staples, or your locally-owned independent copy shop
decimation: yeah that's a good idea, I guess a local printer would be a good start
nubbins`: it's just a stack of digital prints with two staples
decimation: well, yeah or the ring binding
nubbins`: oh, those too, yeah. not so common, but most copy shops can ring-bind as well
nubbins`: coil-bind, i guess
mats_cd03: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 369.54, Best ask: 369.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 369.75, 24 hour volume: 8754.46591541, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 369.344469208
kakobrekla: loot the container in far cry 4 - get 'Cryptocurrency Drive'
PinkPosixPXE: ;;later tell ben_vulpes Hey there, prune_manifest.sh done for you and mod6 to review. Feel free to use/modify as needed, or let me know if you want me to make any changes. (if you decide to use it). Dpaste is not preserving my paste, so here's a gist: https://gist.github.com/thelinuxgirl/738cda58f5c85946b1a5
assbot: Prune differences between file manifests in bitcoin src dirs. Edit the "bitcoin" and "chicken" paths to suit your environment. ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5ye84 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PinkPosixPXE: ok turkey cleaning time, bbiab! just msg me or leave me a tell if you have any questions, or need anything.
Anduck: is the deeds site up?
jurov: down
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
indiancandy1: babe
indiancandy1: why i keep gettin kicked out
kakobrekla: get cloaked
indiancandy1: :(
indiancandy1: how
kakobrekla: read the assbot message
indiancandy1: nthin about cloak
kakobrekla has been trying to warn people about lack or misuse of cloaks for the last day
kakobrekla: got about 10 or so fixed
indiancandy1: huh
Anduck: misuse = ?
indiancandy1: im so confused
indiancandy1: what you on about
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell michail1 you left a rating on http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=the20year&sign=ANY&type=RECV
assbot: Rating Details for User 'the20year' ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5AfBg )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Anduck: kakobrekla: what's there to be warned about not being cloaked?
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you go in #freenode ask for a cloak, then you login first then join chan
kakobrekla: go ahead, join uncloaked. just wait i sec so i bring down ratpoison
kakobrekla: 1 sec
mircea_popescu: !up Ginux
indiancandy1: sounds like hard wok
indiancandy1: can you do it for me
mircea_popescu: lol
diametric: i haven't been able to locate any freenode staff today or yesterday.
mircea_popescu: anyway. what've you been busy with ?
Anduck: kakobrekla: so..?
indiancandy1: shit internet
indiancandy1: thats what
indiancandy1: im in india
mircea_popescu: heh
indiancandy1: gettin fucking depressed
diametric: i'm actually quite curious how the ddos is taking place, my server show absolutely no abnormal traffic.
kakobrekla is taking most of the hit
Anduck: kakobrekla: my host is anduck.net, so what do you do with this info?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla publish logs will you ?
diametric: i'm even ssh'd into my server when i get booted off freenode
Anduck: ip 62.210.90.95 ☟︎
indiancandy1: yea it keeps telling me
indiancandy1: it doesnt recognize me
indiancandy1: :(
kakobrekla: Anduck tell that to the ddoser - not me.
Anduck: i don't see why people should be pushed to use cloak or how to mis-use it. you can't really misuse it if you use sasl
Anduck: well, you've been ddossed because you werent cloaked?
kakobrekla: idk are you playin or fuckin retarded?
Anduck: i am trying to find out the same about you, it is...
mircea_popescu: !down Anduck
Anduck: normally one doesn't get dossed =)
mircea_popescu: srsly, fucktard keeps on talking.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot anduck
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012
mircea_popescu: blergh.
kakobrekla: here, i cleared the way for you.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Anduck -1 random idiot, keeps waking up talking.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Anduck has been recorded.
kakobrekla: join cloakless, Anduck .
indiancandy1: grrr
indiancandy1: so anyways
danielpbarron: ;;rated Anduck
gribble: You rated user Anduck on Thu Aug 14 13:39:36 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/08/14#l1408037518 and this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/23#l1406132751.
indiancandy1: what are yoou doing
kakobrekla: well Anduck ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron heh.
mircea_popescu: lot of shady things eh ?
Anduck: kakobrekla: yes?
indiancandy1: please
kakobrekla: do you want the experience or not?
indiancandy1: include me
indiancandy1: inthe conv
Anduck: kakobrekla: ohh, sec
indiancandy1: lol
indiancandy1: im so bored
mircea_popescu: say something interesting then!
indiancandy1: duno
indiancandy1: start conv with me
indiancandy1: plz
diametric: sigh.. the staff keep ignoring my request for an unaffiliated.
kakobrekla: hrm
mircea_popescu: diametric it usually takes a while.
diametric: i'm still intrigued with how it's happening.
Anduck: kakobrekla: by 'experience' you mean you would try dossing me?
mircea_popescu: guy wrote some buggy script, i guess ?
kakobrekla: Anduck 'me' ?
kakobrekla: and 'try' ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for #b-a irc, an idea would be to have moderation for joins/parts.
Anduck: just answer and dont be smartass
Anduck: ._.
Anduck: correct me if i'm wrong but you dont have be an asshat
kakobrekla: but i am smart and ass.
diametric: i'm connected to my bounce server when the "ddos" happens, but i don't see any unusual packets coming into it, nor do is my connection to my server from my house impacted in anyway, but i do get booted off freenode.
Anduck: so, the 'experience' would be you trying to dos me?
mircea_popescu: diametric maybe you're not logging what needs to be logging ?
diametric: i mean the peak throughput i've had sustained for any period of time has been 100k/s
mircea_popescu: could be synflood or w/e.
kakobrekla: Anduck no.
diametric: mircea_popescu: possibly
diametric: but i'd still see tons of packets on the interface coming in
kakobrekla: Anduck why on earth would _I_ ddos ?
mircea_popescu: diametric guy's a kid in a basement. if it's going to be something it's going to be some sort of very cheap, high leverage, poor control something. syn, wordpress pignbacks, stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: he's not about to fill anyone's pipe.
Anduck: kakobrekla: indeed. why would someone dos some random people at irc
kakobrekla: and yet it happens!
diametric: mircea_popescu: yeah i figured, but the interesting part to me is that it only interrupts my connection to freenode. nothing else.
diametric: and thats what makes it suspicious to me
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mebbe if you ignore it it goes away, and the room average iq jumps a coupla points.
kakobrekla: diametric i can saturate a gbps line with it.
mircea_popescu: diametric you logging port 8001 ?
Anduck: and mircea_popescu ofc you do shady things, you know what i mean.
Anduck: :)
diametric: I'm not looking at any particular ports, i'm just looking at the raw interface stats
Anduck: you may call it 'doing business' to say FAQ is ToS etc.
Anduck: most poeple call it shady shit
diametric: kakobrekla: oh yeah. i worked for the isp that hosted riaa's website when napster was shutdown, i'm all too familiar with ddosing =)
kakobrekla: aha
diametric: we actually fired riaa as a customer
kakobrekla: heh
kakobrekla: too much trouble?
Anduck: obviouslyt
indiancandy1: grrrrrrrrrr
Anduck: ddossing is pita when it's well done
kakobrekla: !up Diablo-D3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68000 @ 0.00039442 = 26.8206 BTC [-] {4}
Diablo-D3 runs a host that deals with ddos mitgation
Diablo-D3: ddos is such lol.
Anduck: Diablo-D3: btw are you a regular in this channel?
diametric: hmm i'm curious.
indiancandy1: hisa fake
indiancandy1: lol
mircea_popescu: mebbe it doesn't have ipv6 ? lol
indiancandy1: im goin no 1 likes me
indiancandy1: i hate u
mircea_popescu: try a 4 quad address.
mircea_popescu: later indiancandy1
indiancandy1: kisss
Diablo-D3: Anduck: yes.
Anduck: damn
Diablo-D3: except I refuse to go through this whole identify to assbot shit
Diablo-D3: because its bullshit
kakobrekla: https://exelion.net < this is diablo?
assbot: Exelion | Dedicated Server Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5DpFf )
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: yes.
diametric: mircea_popescu: thats what i thought but i have been getting booted off freenode an abnormal amount of times. maybe it's shitty ipv6 freenode servers and entirely coincidental.
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: the website sucks, we alllll know.
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: never outsource website design.
diametric: i'll still get a cloak anyway because why not
kakobrekla: so what can you take?
mircea_popescu: this is going to be lulzy.
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: 100gbit, though no one has been stupid enough to try yet
kakobrekla: you can do 100gbit traffic or 100gbit mitigation?
Diablo-D3: mitigation
kakobrekla: with what
Diablo-D3: a custom system
kakobrekla: cans and strings?
diametric: lol
Diablo-D3: cans, strings, and not as many DSPs as I had hoped.
kakobrekla: always on thing?
Diablo-D3: yeah
kakobrekla: bring me up a test instance for a couple of days?
Diablo-D3: Honestly, I need to setup a lightning rod box.
Diablo-D3: somewhere in the realm of too lazy, though.
kakobrekla: !down Diablo-D3
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3792 @ 0.00124991 = 4.7397 BTC [+] {7}
Anduck: lol
Anduck: is this !up !down thing actually useful or is it just a way to troll / annoy people?
Anduck: which one is weighted more
mircea_popescu: typical.
mircea_popescu: anyway : another job on the job board - who wants to take https://github.com/mikexstudios/qwebirc and run it on a box somewhere, except NOT leaking out the IP of the user ?
assbot: mikexstudios/qwebirc · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5EKfe )
Anduck: mircea_popescu: i could test it =)
kakobrekla: sounds like a job for Diablo-D3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00038809 = 18.5895 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: mircea_popescu: why this mikex version?
jurov: is it paid?
mircea_popescu: punkman random one i happened ot pick.
jurov: also, how would it prevent getting banned?
jurov: i had similar service, ended up k-lined
jurov: and freenode staff said if I publish unique whois per user it may help
jurov: however, the users were ephemeral, so i just blocked irc altogether
mircea_popescu: worth a shot.
kakobrekla: wait doesnt kiwi have a solution to this?
mircea_popescu: i've been looking for reasons to ditch freenode for like a year.
punkman: many networks auto-cloak everyone
mircea_popescu: yeah. sane ones, that weren't made in 1995.
diametric: i actually enjoyed the wild west nature of efnet back in the 90s.
jurov: kiwiirc publishes "gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.84.X.Y.Z
Anduck: here we go.
Anduck: Anducktesting: = qwebirc.anduck.net
mircea_popescu: jesus sitting in the safe confines of over here one readily forgets just how fucktarded teh outside world is.
mircea_popescu: anyway, bbl.
Anduck: maybe it's just you.
Anduck: lol
diametric: huzzah i have been cloaked.
diametric: also theres a guy with magical powers in #freenode that can reverse hashes.
Anduck: hashes like?
Anduck: if you hex-encode ip, it's... encoded
diametric: well, mp proposed hashing webchat ips as a solution to prevent abuse.
diametric: but someone pointed out that all it would take is someone to reverse the hash.
Anduck: you can'
diametric: i lol'd hard.
Anduck: meh, enter too close
jurov: only if you hash it with secret salt
Anduck: !up Anducktesting
jurov: sha256(ip) alone can be bruteforced easily
diametric: of course
jurov: is freenode prone to accept such solution?
punkman: I remember seeing mibbit or whatever with such a solution
jurov: that ips are obfuscated, but stable
punkman: been a while though, maybe freenode changed policy?
Anduck: mircea_popescu: you trying to silence me here :x :)
Anduck: i love your negrating and !down
jurov: http://decal.sdf.org/spotfedsonline/Uncloaking-IP-Addresses-on-IRC.pdf << may be interesting but incredibly hideous design
ben_vulpes: ;;ping
gribble: pong
fluffypony: eugh, "reverse" the hash
fluffypony: someone shoot that person for being a moron
Anduck: well, damn
Anduck: if you hash the ip, it's trivial to get the ip. unless salt is used
fluffypony: it's trivial to brute-force or use rainbow tables
fluffypony: but that's not "reversing" it
Anduck: well, duh
fluffypony: besides, this is a trivial problem - all IRC servers in a network need to be in-sync (services etc.), so just sync up a table of IP -> random string key-value pairs
jurov: syncing 3e9 strings is trivial problem?
fluffypony: jurov: no more complex than keeping nickserv+chanserv+memoserv+operserv in sync
fluffypony: besides, this is why DHTs exist
jurov: oh you mean that for freenode replacement?
kakobrekla: everybodys cloaking is broked
kakobrekla: :\
jurov: i never had any
kakobrekla: (perhaps even mine, havent tested it)
jurov: fortunately
fluffypony: jurov: yeah I meant on the IRC network level
kakobrekla: this was kinda funny from earlier; http://dpaste.com/26CTWKT.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xMvFCX )
kakobrekla saved a soul from endless loop
mod6: ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE Thanks for coming up with that in short-order! I took a look, check PM.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: phew
ben_vulpes: !up Squidward
ben_vulpes: Squidward: get a cloak
Squidward: how?
ben_vulpes: join #freenode, ask for one
ben_vulpes: amusingly, it's faster and more robust to tail ~/.bitcoin/debug.log than it is to actually query getblockcount on 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: wd boys
ben_vulpes: tail -n 20 ~/.bitcoin/debug.log | grep height
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.0003862 = 4.1517 BTC [-]
Anduck: ben_vulpes: guess which one is more accurate in case problems show up
ben_vulpes: Anduck: debug.log?
Anduck: nope. :)
ben_vulpes: well grepping the debug log is going to show other things i suppose
ben_vulpes: i'd hope that getblockcount would return the height of the verified chain...
adlai: where'd the -assets go!?
Anduck: hell
adlai: oh derp, i was scrolled up
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot adlai
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adlai | Rated since: Sat Oct 11 10:15:58 2014
adlai: ben_vulpes: thru you
ben_vulpes: myeah i guess
adlai is not sane btw
ben_vulpes raises one...single...eyebrow
ben_vulpes: you're a common lisp programmer. sanity would be too much to ask.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.93, Best ask: 368.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 368.99, 24 hour volume: 7610.99576218, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 369.972949579
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/c8YFF9F.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1uZqDWB )
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> amusingly, it's faster and more robust to tail ~/.bitcoin/debug.log than it is to actually query getblockcount on 0.5.3 <<< +1
kakobrekla: for newbs http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets/cloak
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets:cloak [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1uZrRB1 )
kakobrekla: pls to check
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE thanks you're a gem
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: "I would like to claim as my own… the theory of comparative superpower collapse" - dmitri orlov << I get that he's perceptive about the present, but has he not read any history from more than 100 years ago!?
ben_vulpes: !up yhwh_
adlai: shouldn't yhwh always be voiced?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49450 @ 0.00038095 = 18.838 BTC [-]
adlai: ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/25_notes-on-increasing-the-maximum-bitcoin-block-size-or-why-it-aint-happenin.html#fn.5 << you can have the entire blockchain without most old transactions, since the block header commits to the merkle root of the block, not the entire thing
assbot: Notes on Increasing the Maximum Bitcoin Block Size (or, "Why it ain't happenin'") ... ( http://bit.ly/126wjSL )
ben_vulpes: i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's not a real blockchain unless it has all of the transactions.
ben_vulpes: adlai:
ben_vulpes: http://atreus.technomancy.us/ << perhaps the solution to the "portable computing" problem is not a laptop per se, but more modularized infrastrucutre.
assbot: Atreus Keyboard Kit ... ( http://bit.ly/126wPzZ )
adlai: you don't need every transaction
ben_vulpes: infrastructure*
ben_vulpes: a thing that "computes" a thing that "displays" a thing that "accepts inputs"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45480 @ 0.00037666 = 17.1305 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: ben_vulpes: section 7 "Reclaiming Disk Space" in the whitepaper explains this, and also suggests that this issue long predates and is unrelated to block size
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.91, Best ask: 369.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.72000, Last trade: 369.63, 24 hour volume: 6647.47662568, 24 hour low: 363.39, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 370.675073401
ben_vulpes: adlai: i see what you're getting at but i don't know that i buy it.
adlai: what is there to buy?
adlai: whether you keep provably irrelevant merkle branches is more of an afterthought that an individual node can do on its own
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "California Quake 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/766/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.29655018 BTC. Current weight: 50,730.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: atreus keyboard << from what i can see here - a turd.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer?
diametric: so even cloaked I'm getting randomly booted off freenode. I think my disconnects are entirely coincidental and unrelated to any join ddos, since I can't find any evidence of the latter.
kakobrekla: not impossible
decimation: diametric: I don't see any join/leave logs from you in the past few minutes
decimation: asciilifeform: there is also an art to packing the keys on a keyboard to just the right density
diametric: decimation: happened about 30 minutes ago, i was afk until now, but i could see the bouncer informing me it was booted from freenode.
diametric: decimation: pretty much whats been happening for the last few days
decimation: diametric: ah yeah I see those, but your cloak is good from here
diametric: yeah, i don't think i was ever being ddos, i think its just a coincidence.
decimation: are you using port 7000/sasl?
decimation: that seems to help me
diametric: i'm connecting over ipv6, port 6697
diametric: i configured sasl on my bouncer, but i'm not sure its working
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00030027 = 12.7014 BTC [-]
diametric: anyone have a recommendation on a vps provider that accepts bitcoin and isn't a scam?
kakobrekla: no such thing
thestringpuller: mpoe at record lows
thestringpuller: happy thanksgiving!
kakobrekla: oh
kakobrekla: vultr takes btc
kakobrekla: they are a spinoff of some serial company
kakobrekla has been abusing their shit with bitcoinds
kakobrekla: ;;later tell diametric vultr takes btc
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mats_cd03: the evaporation of my mpoe shares continues
kakobrekla updates his nav with s.mpoe @ 0
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.00899999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall before Mar 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1058/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.88145999 BTC. Current weight: 65,246.
diametric: okay i figured out what was up with my connection, I think anyway.
diametric: the particular ipv6 freenode server i was connecting to I was getting like ~15% packet loss on. I picked another server from the round-robin AAAA records for chat.freenode.net, no packet loss now.
diametric: So the server running at 2610:150:4b0f::: is fucked up badly.
decimation: heh
decimation: Must be some crap network port or something
decimation: diametric: do you actually have ipv6 routed to your host or do you use a gateway?
diametric: decimation: its routed to my host
decimation: neat
diametric: --- 2610:150:4b0f:: ping statistics ---
diametric: 15 packets transmitted, 5 received, 66% packet loss, time 14072ms
diametric: yeah that host is really fucked
diametric: looks like thats morgan.freenode.net
diametric: i'm tempted to go drive around now and look at the idiots waiting in lines for black friday midnight sales.
thestringpuller: silly americans
punkman: http://www.bitcoinblackfriday.com/
assbot: Bitcoin Black Friday ... ( http://bit.ly/1xNomdW )
jurov: http://imgur.com/gO5Sx6m ^ likely seen it already
jurov: assbot gone?
jurov: !up fivezerotwo
jurov: assbot prolly ignores imgur
jurov: fivezerotwo are you ddosing that poor creature?
kakobrekla: nah
fivezerotwo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/
fivezerotwo: lol
fivezerotwo: so this is why you don't put everything in one basket
kakobrekla: highlight the funny line will ya?
fivezerotwo: ;;isdown trilema.com
gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
fivezerotwo: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
fivezerotwo: well, it isn't ^^
fivezerotwo: http://check-host.net/check-report/50ef7d
fivezerotwo: http://check-host.net/check-report/50ef7e
danielpbarron stabs fivezerotwo
mircea_popescu: !down fivezerotwo
kakobrekla: log is up?
mircea_popescu: somebody may sometime care, somewhere.
mircea_popescu: this isn't really any of it.
kakobrekla: scammer that dude.
jurov: log's fine from here
jurov: http://rt.com/usa/209199-reddit-black-friday-walmart/ << lol rt's take
jurov: The attached image is an ominous depiction of a massive Walmart retail shop with throngs of would-be shoppers waiting outside with American flags in the evening rain as dark clouds roll in.
mircea_popescu: lol people love to herd. you should see teh argentines, it's like their favourite passtime, form a queue.
mircea_popescu: adlai: you don't need every transaction << you're an expert now ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diametric: decimation: pretty much whats been happening for the last few days << freenode (and irc generally) isn't exactly a paragon of predictable behaviour
mircea_popescu: diametric: anyone have a recommendation on a vps provider that accepts bitcoin and isn't a scam? << nope. this is an oft recurring problem, nobody wants to make one already. for what, a year ? three ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i need my trilema fix
thestringpuller: !up fivezerotwo
mircea_popescu: oh wow, mpoe under 40 huh.
fivezerotwo: heh