Ademan: I can't wait until the absurd amount of funds on wallstreet join in the price rollercoaster
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the average american owns some bezzle called 401k
mircea_popescu: which he's not allowed to spend on normal nonbezzle items
ozbot: BitBeat: KnCMiner Flips the Scrypt; Sells $2 Million of New Rigs in Four Hours - MoneyBeat - WSJ
Ademan: it's also a sufficient PITA to buy BTC (legally) and the average person *likes* investing in HerpDerp Corp, and are no doubt frightened by there being no CEO of Bitcoin to hate
Shakespeare: of course AltBet.us would have to come first
diametric: theres ltc bombs if i'm not mistaken
kakobrekla: well i guess that is another thing you can build on top of bbet, on the fly exchange
Shakespeare: so you'd be okay with an ATC mirror that simply converted to BitBets?
ozbot: Unqualified Reservations: The Hanson-Moldbug debate
diametric: How is the market cap going to be determined in that bet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61889 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.11950724 = 0.3585 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.619158 = 3.0958 BTC [+] {3}
Ademan: mircea_popescu: is reddit's /u/MPOE-PR legit?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.629622 = 3.1481 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.63010999 = 2.5204 BTC [+] {2}
Ademan: wow, AM1 is actually recovering
Ademan: well, it's been down to 0.4 iirc
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment
ThickAsThieves: "Facebook Security Director Joins Bitcoin Startup Coinbase"
mircea_popescu: robertmcmillan to speak you type in the little box on the bottom and hit enter
kakobrekla: asciilifeform not sure how this correlates , explain ?
robertmcmillan: Hey Mircea. Sorry not used to this UI. How do I DM you?
ThickAsThieves: there's mor ethan one way to design such a thing for bitbet, so i could see a bad design being possible
kakobrekla: but whatever, lets not get into that, someone should at least try to do it though
Ademan: dexX7: yeah, saw that, wasn't gen3 supposed to be out by this month though?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think his idea was just "offer altcoin betting on bitbet, do alt<>btc conversion for your customers transparently"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0035 = 0.1085 BTC [+]
dexX7: Ademan: well, tape-out was scheduled for end of january, but there was no delievery date published to my knowledge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00634444 = 0.1269 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: or, you could just only use the content and outcome of bitbet, and handle your own escrow of alts
Ademan: asciilifeform: RAM for what? SHA256 doesn't need much memory
dexX7: Ademan: additionally there are some who believe there was already a test run with the new chips and a reseller already promoted an am gen3 based miner
kakobrekla: the money flow nao is user->bbet->user, to implement alt you do it user->service->bbet->service->user
Ademan: dexX7: I thought I read an update that stated Q1 back in december
dexX7: that was probably related to the tape out in january
novusordo: one of AM's previous resellers posted something about a new miner, with specs
dexX7: alts are great as testbed
deadweasel: and the admin work of shuffling them around is absurd
Ademan: ideally you'd accept every payment option possible to maximize your potential customers, really
kakobrekla: yes, flapcoin will save bbet like bitcoin saved overstock
Ademan: deadweasel: well show me the shell/BTC exchange so I can convert them to something useful for me and sure!
novusordo: oh cool let me just deposit my shells aaaaaand it's gone
deadweasel: novusordo: you should start cryptoshekels.
Orion__: i have a tiny little problem and i'm in need of an expert
benkay: what's going on Orion__?
novusordo: seems like everyone and their mother has a personal altcoin now
novusordo: i'll create momcoin under a different pseudonym, and give it slightly different properties than cryptoshekels
novusordo: so that i can pump both at the same time
mircea_popescu: novusordo there are people who consider themselves into various technical fields, such as buildingh
mircea_popescu: who go to specialised stores and buy tools on the principle that the tools are useful, and so why not buy some tools.
Ademan: novusordo: and I'll create MILFcoin to compete with momcoin
novusordo: Ademan: i see you're an altcoin design pro
benkay: Ademan: you missed the secret sauce with that one-liner.
benkay: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo: blog updated. look, ma! no bootstrap!
dexX7: what was your blog again, benkay?
benkay: although now the linespacing issue with footnotes is just that much more apparent.
dexX7: kinda minimal design approach hehe
dexX7: shouldn't be one on mpex?
ozbot: S.DICE last 5@0.00311776
benkay: mircea_popescu: may i post a copy of the s.dice contract on my blog?
dexX7: nice, archive.org also archived the prospectus pdfs etc.
ozbot: The Satoshi Dice Contract
benkay: bonus side effect of ripping out the css and js from my site is how much more snappy it is.
benkay: not even gzipping, i'll bet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0008149 = 10.6752 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: it's like a competition to see whose website can look the shittiest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 152 @ 0.0034 = 0.5168 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6200001 BTC [-]
decimation: In 1897, there lived 345 000 Germans in Ukraine, that was 4,2 % of the population. In 1911, there were 419 000 Germans. ... In spite of it, Germans played an important part in the Ukrainian culture life. Until 1914 many professors at Ukrainian universities were Germans.
☟︎ SatoshiJack: Looking for players to test satoshijack.com (Multi-Player Blackjack) No client. Just Browser/HTML5
Ademan: "our custom JS exploit installs our malware for you!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05509978 = 0.1102 BTC [+]
Ademan: antephialtic: the SEC?
antephialtic: if MP thinks he's not breaking any laws, why would he delist it?
Ademan: He can afford a lawyer, maybe his lawyer informed him otherwise :-p
moiety: i sreepy, good mew all, whatever your timezone!
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: do you find it curious that they were willing to accept BTC addresses as identification?
antephialtic: the SEC asked you to identify MPEx shareholders of S.DICE, and was willing to accept Name and address OR btc address
mircea_popescu: you know, just because i ask for x y z doesn't automatically mean i consider all of these "identification"
BCB: SEC has a blockchain parser with you names next to all the addresses.
antephialtic: makes you wonder just how far along they are on deanonymization
mircea_popescu: so far they have problems spelling their domain name and following their own regulation.
diametric: anyone have a particular cheap 5v buck converter module on ebay they've had not burn their homes down?
Ademan: diametric: there's a buck converter that's intended to be a drop in for the 7805 actually, it's a bit pricey though
antephialtic: perhaps the SEC is inept, but there are other agencies in the US government that contract services from non-inept firms to do their dirty work
antephialtic: and the bumpkins at the SEC may have been given access to such a tool built by such a contractor.
diametric: Ademan: really? thats interesting, link?
Ademan: like, $10 pricey, if you want them for prototyping and don't summon too much blue smoke they're probably useful though
diametric: I'm just curious, the easiest ones I've seen have been the ti simpler switcher ones, but they're not at all a dropin for a 7805
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: let this be a lesson (not to you, but to us) on the importance of using techniques such as merge avoidance, coinjoin & coinswap.
[\]: why you gotta be harassing the nice sec lady?
BCB: antephialtic, have you viewed any of the SEC's workproduct pretaining to the pirateat40 case? It's pretty impressive
[\]: mircea_popescu: I forgot you don't play well in the sandbox.
BCB: That would be sexual harrassment
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they actually patent the secret shit too ?
BCB: antephialtic, I'll dig up a link for you.
BCB: antephialtic, that is the motion for summary judgement
diametric: Ademan: i should join that channel, thanks.
[\]: By the end of fiscal year 1991, the number of patent secrecy orders stood at 6,193. Many such orders were imposed on individuals and organizations working without government support. This number shrank for each fiscal year thereafter, until 2002. Since 2002, the number of secrecy orders has grown, with 5,002 secrecy orders in effect at the end of fiscal year 2007.
antephialtic: BCB: you have a link to the original complaint?
diametric: asciilifeform: realistically I'll be using it for 24V -> 5V, and something around 10-15W without any active cooling
BCB: these guys don't fuck around
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i hope they did at least a dozen troll secretions/year
BCB: antephialtic, pretty impressive.
BCB: talk about following the money
novusordo: i'm trying to figure out how to power my raspberry pi on 5V to send up in a balloon soon
novusordo looks at car->usb converter on corner of desk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0034 = 0.1462 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: get 6 zinc-air together you have about 3 ampere-hour in there.
mircea_popescu: can't you get models taht are essentially draw-driven ?
mircea_popescu: ie, they discharge at a given rate, you can alter their actual voltage by the resistence ?
antephialtic: think the SEC is going to learn about the Streisand Effect
antephialtic: I was recently looking into buying a hardware device for GPG signing and everything on the market looks pretty clunky. I stumbled onto the Cardano, and it seemed pretty well suited to my use case
antephialtic: have multiple machines that I want to sign emails from, some of which are not fully in my control (e.g. workstation owned by employer)
mircea_popescu: antephialtic ideally should be available to order late april.
antephialtic: cool, do you have any idea what the pricing will be like?
antephialtic: indeed. as long as the price is not obscene, I am willing to pay for convenience without sacrificing security.
diametric: It saddens me my get in wot is not of one generated with a cardano.
diametric: asciilifeform: I swore you had told me you couldn't before.
mircea_popescu: and even there... reg new key, push assets, good to go.
mircea_popescu: lol if it weren't a security issue i suppose i could make rings for people
mircea_popescu: "Make no mistake that the US gov't already knows the real identity and location of MP."
diametric: I like the ones where you're not actually a person, but a group of individuals pretending to be a guy named Mircea Popescu
novusordo: didn't know about the cardano, interesting
diametric: and of course the one where everyone in this channel is you.
mircea_popescu: diametric that is actually pretty close to the truth of the matter.
mircea_popescu: various people doing my research for me, feeding me links and so on
mircea_popescu: actually come to think of it... i'm like kirk, if the bridge bunnies were actually useful
antephialtic: if you mind me asking, when did you first hear about BTC?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00350002 = 0.1645 BTC [+]
antephialtic: well, good luck with the SEC business. I suspect it will bring you a lot of attention, releasing those emails has definitely already made some waves.
Duffer1: what's the plan if they attempt subpeona?
Mats_cd03: Can "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" be a thing?
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079813 / 0.00080834 / 0.00081619 (2123197 shares, 1,716.28 BTC), 7D: 0.00079084 / 0.00081827 / 0.00089749 (8082472 shares, 6,613.68 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00085022 / 0.0008982 (30740127 shares, 26,136.16 BTC)
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.0008149 BTC [+]
antephialtic: I would actually buy the bitcoin glasses from the newsweek cover
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it doth say there, mpex does comply with legal requests.
mircea_popescu: basically, there's two avenues open. you can make a legal request, or you can make a legal request.
mircea_popescu: to make a friendly request you gotta be friends. the path ot becoming friends is detailed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00366979 = 0.9174 BTC [+] {9}
mircea_popescu: to make a legal request you gotta make that legal request. i wouldn't presume to teach teh sec how to do that.
antephialtic: MP: it would have been way cooler if they had joined the WOT :-(
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 i don't see why not. i thought it already is, but more like "he is satoshi nakamoto"
mircea_popescu: heh i got confused earlier. " you can make a friendly request, or you can make a legal request" is what i meant
benkay: no no it was much better the first way
antephialtic: besides, I don't think MP is the one in trouble here. Voorhees, on the other hand ...
mircea_popescu: but i do imagine it makes administerting justice in the us fucking impossible.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how cops can manage in that sort of poisonous atmosphere
Mats_cd03: if someone makes t shirts with "i am satoshi nakamoto" with a v for vendetta theme or ghost in the shell, i will be your first customer
antephialtic: police treatment in the US is very different depending on race and socioeconomic status
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 700 @ 0.00047503 = 0.3325 BTC [+] {4}
antephialtic: if you are a white guy it is pretty much cheat mode
diametric: antephialtic: if you're upper middle class white guy
antephialtic: if you are black/hispanic you get hassled, constantly
diametric: poor white guys only fare a little bit better
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well cause the us made the mistake of giving the cops squad cars
mircea_popescu: so now they won't ever get out of them if they can help it
joecool: mircea_popescu: the bigger ones moved up to SUVs. more room
benkay: Mats_cd03: google "i am satoshi nakamoto"
antephialtic: actually I have seen quite a few urban cops on segways.
dexX7: says a guy who rides a horse in the desert ;)
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joecool: mircea_popescu: true story, I was actually stopped by a cop multiple times one day because I decided to walk to the next town instead of driving one day, he damanded to know my destination and I refused to provide him with it.
joecool: mircea_popescu: walking in the US is suspicious behavior
antephialtic: In many parts of the US, especially the south, townships are designed such that walking is impractical and everyone must have a car
MisterE: joecool: living in the US is suspicious behavior
joecool: MisterE: of course, though I intend to eventually move out
MisterE: joecool: if you can work remotely don't hesitate
MisterE: I left the US 8-years ago and never looked back best thing I ever did
joecool: MisterE: you're the second one who has told me that now
MisterE: mircea_popescu: no just a few billion thrown at a contractor, its a jobs program
MisterE: joecool: I might have told you once in the past heh
MisterE: I recommend everyone with a head on their shoulders gtfo of US now
joecool: MisterE: did you own a VPN company for awhile?
MisterE: come live here where cost of living is so low
MisterE: you can have western standard of living for a few hudred USD /month
antephialtic: Thailand is quite cheap, yes. Lots of security people there as well
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "This means that the physical machine which hosts the trading engine is not accessible directlyii from the Internet." <<< so if i were to vpn a machine with a private gpg key and send data over the wire (via some computer) I would never have to worry about the keyring being compromised? Or is the most effective way to sign/encrypt/decrypt/verify data on an airgapped machine then marshall it over v
MisterE: I was in land use planning and commercial development permitting
MisterE: antephialtic: yes my 'home base' is Bangkok
MisterE: such crap journalism these days
antephialtic: MisterE: have you ever been to Vang Vieng, Laos?
MisterE: I'm working on an idea to address that mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: "SatoshiDice listed shares on MPEx in August 2012, according to an MPEx-affiliated website."
mircea_popescu: "SatoshiDice.com, according to a copy of the request posted on the website trilema.com."
MisterE: antephialtic: thats how they pronounce it but proper spelling is Vientiane, I have been there several times for visas but can't say I enjoy the place
antephialtic: Vang Vieng is a party location. Went there when I was in college with a few friends. It's like heaven on earth
MisterE: I haven't travelled much in Laos there's not really much there heh
MisterE: oh I believe that, Laos can be lawless
MisterE: thats where TPB guys are chilling out
joecool: mircea_popescu: waiting for newsweek's version
MisterE: also lots of drug gangs and chances for big problems if you wanter off the well worn path without a guide /friend in Laos
MisterE: It would be akin to walking around Can Cun back up away from the beach where the narco mansions are
mircea_popescu: joecool well, maybe they find some old guy named mircea popescu somewhere close to burbank.
MisterE: not for a fat whitey like me :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00374477 = 0.749 BTC [+] {5}
dexX7: spoiler: wired.com posts a story on sd + sec, too
antephialtic: off topic, but it appears MH370 has been found
joecool: mircea_popescu: if you look hard enough you can find any name in the US, someone named their kid Adolf Hitler a couple towns over
antephialtic: "Australia Satellite Imagery Locates Two Objects That Look Like Parts of An Aircraft"
antephialtic: "Australia Prime Minister Says Search Aircraft Dispatched to Area, Expected to Arrive Soon"
antephialtic: this is the WSJ. guessing somewhere in the ocean, however
MisterE: I was sure aliens snatched it out of the air :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00378979 = 0.1516 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7: businessweek also copy pasted "SatochiDice"
Duffer1: You gotta read how they compromised the exchange
dexX7: "Using only the owner’s name, the thief was allegedly able to ..." wow
mircea_popescu: "Rogers Data Centres told the Citizen that it is cooperating with the investigation, but that the security issue is not indicative of larger problems at its company."
mircea_popescu: any hoster that does this, fined 100 btc. fixed flat fee.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00359 = 0.1149 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: so everyone knows not to keep over 100 btc in hot wallets, and so every hoster has a serious incentive to do security.
mircea_popescu: flat fee. you give away a server ? that'll be 100 btc.
ozbot: Ottawa bitcoin exchange defrauded of $100,000 in cyber currency
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62999992 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: you're right, the cardano isn't the holy grail. but teleportation still is. i've edited the article accordingly.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: link fixed, just deleted that last / and it fixed itself. and i thought you'd like the art bit.
bitcoinpete: from citizen: "Canadian Bitcoins is the latest bitcoin exchange to be successfully targeted by thieves. Japanese Mt. Gox was forced out of business last month after hackers successfully infiltrated the exchanges’ security and stole as much as $468 million US worth of bitcoin." karpeles is a hacker now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00081249 = 5.3624 BTC [-] {2}
joecool: the cardano seems ok if you can maintain physical security, it doesn't even try to stop an opportunistic attacker, i really don't see why it shouldn't have at least a simple auth system
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: so what's your internal debate on bitcoin for ccs?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: 21:09:35mircea_popescu:the jury in my head is out on the entire topic of bitcoin-backed ccs
joecool: mircea_popescu: assuming i leave it out by accident to go take a shit or whatever, attacker can sign whatever he wants with it, i will know it happened later on when the signature counter is incremented but who knows what he'll have done by that time with my identity
joecool: mircea_popescu: i figured you'd say as much, it does seem trivial though to echo a string into the device before key generation, have it set a default counter to 3, and require that same string to be passed to the device in order to activate signing function
joecool: mircea_popescu: when counter hits zero cannot sign anything, need to nuke and generate new keys
mircea_popescu: what if you accidentally leave the string in paste buffer or w/e
joecool: mircea_popescu: don't do that?
joecool: mircea_popescu: except the secret is worthless without the token, if someone had that secret they'd still need physical possession of the device
joecool: ie. if you did leave your unlock key on a public computer it wouldn't matter unless the attacker also held your device
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.05697271 = 0.6267 BTC [+] {4}
dexX7: bitcoinpete> from citizen: ... where's that from? labeling historical btc losses in current exchange rate is stupid fud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.057 = 0.342 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: dexX7: from the article you linked, second page
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.057 = 0.399 BTC [+]
dexX7: yea it's ridiculous
bitcoinpete: at least the canadian bitcoins guy had someone to blame, the flexcoin guy was just like "oops, what happened? peace up, a-town down"
joecool: ideally you'd be able to jam a pin in directly on the device to activate it but this increases cost and size substantially
joecool: but it's probably best to never sleep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05800501 = 0.116 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.057501 = 0.115 BTC [-]
joecool: mircea_popescu: i meant a series of numbers not a sewing device
joecool: mircea_popescu: that is not practical while traveling
ozbot: High Security Portable Briefcase Safe by Corporate Travel Safety (Free Shipping) - Travel Safes - Co
joecool: mircea_popescu: bolt cutters to take it and shouldn't be too hard top open in in the right environment after
novusordo: might be inconvenient at times but one rarely gets robbed while relieving oneself
joecool: heh, you're correct a briefcase safe will stop a casual attacker while I take a shit
mircea_popescu: anyway. ima be off for nao, so we can take shits in briefcases later :D
joecool: if it is missing while I am gone, I should be able to revoke the key in the amount of time it takes them to open it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00081333 = 5.368 BTC [+]
MisterE: like they couldnt even likn to the study?
joecool: still doesn't mean I think it's a great idea to ship a product without a convenient simple auth system (easier than carrying around a heavy armored briefcase), but yeah ttyl :P
jcpham: please add no shitting in briefcases to topic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 95 @ 0.00549999 = 0.5225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.0037 = 0.1554 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0037 = 0.1887 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.0037 = 0.5735 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0037 = 0.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081149 = 6.6542 BTC [-]
toffoo: first missed asicminer div today in over a year+
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete hey frere if you need pronouns for me feel free to use my actual handle in the future
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete or, you know, my name.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.093669 = 0.281 BTC [+]
Duffer1: is Goat around? whatever happened to his physical litecoins?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.093669 = 0.6557 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu is it bitcoins pl. noun and Bitcoin proper? or Bitcoins and Bitcoin?
benkay: BingoBoingo: is it bitcoins pl. noun and Bitcoin proper? or Bitcoins and Bitcoin?
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: I thought Smoothie had the physical litecoins
Duffer1: he did, but Goat was going to do his own
BingoBoingo: I tend to thing Bitcoin the thing is proper, bitcoins the unit of the thing not proper
benkay: that's what i'm rolling with.
BingoBoingo: Reading the logs looks like I slept through the Journos
benkay: need to deploy some capital against the design to get it just right, but i've finally ripped out all the modern garbage.
benkay: nubbins` hates it, though.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I killed my backgound image. Might make a more subdued version.
benkay: for good reason, too. while it's now free of the cruft, it lacks any actual aesthetic.
BingoBoingo: Eh, it has aesthetic benkay, the exact aesthetic the designers of the web wanted
benkay: (my colleagues would gasp in shock if they heard me opining about design)
benkay: maybe not, though. i did a complete 180 on my personal image over the past four months as our firm has gained traction.
benkay: went from 'scruffy *nix hacker' to 'well-groomed software shop operator and smug lisp weenie-cum-*nix-hacker'.
benkay: i have too much to do before i mature
BingoBoingo: Next step might be running open Genera in a VM as your primary operating system and depreciating the *nix things
benkay: oh if only i had the time
benkay: they probably won't allow me to make commits on the clock for much longer anyways.
benkay: maturation process etc.
BingoBoingo: Apparently I missed the discussion on US police
benkay: the current trend in behavior is to just toss your two cents in as you read through the logs, directed at the people making interesting comments
benkay: linked 'counterparty selection' again today BingoBoingo.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu For a few years now, Business Week has been a Bloomberg owned concern. Basically just pushing Bloomberg stories a bit shitter and a bit later.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Nice. I'm rather glad I reposted that because the first instance never got any traction.
benkay: what's the rush, anyways.
benkay: slashdot, hacker news, metafilter
benkay: here today, gone tomorrow.
benkay: "traction". silly-con valley horseshit, i say.
BingoBoingo: Eh, I might actually be the only person who likes the new Slashdot beta
BingoBoingo: The OpenBSD saved by MP got roughly 15x the views the Counterparties link did. The two slashdots were a valuable experiment in seeing the crowd's view of Bitcoin as magic savior of geeks versus a functional tool for use.
BingoBoingo: I dunno that there could have been a better way to get that information.
benkay: first principles maybe?
benkay: and slashdot ca. 2014 at that.
BingoBoingo: It's nice, its familiar, and I understand the culture
benkay: i worked for one of the perl greybeards who built and ran the place for a while
benkay: exceptional technical manager
BingoBoingo: The only REAL change in 2014 is now Google's the Big Bad
BingoBoingo: The big underlying theme its whole run though has been people hating an OS by a company primarily concerned with making cruddy dev tools
BingoBoingo: I seriously can't get over how much better your site looks Benkay
benkay: microsoft's dev tools are pretty good is the funny thing about that statement
benkay: their os is utter shite, but their dev tools make it possible for the averagely-intelligenced to participate in the big corporate software development dance.
benkay: i know it sucked before.
BingoBoingo: Well, comfortable they can be. They tend to just shit crap though.
benkay: and i appreciate that you all let me fix it in my own time, with only the occasional gentle suggestions.
BingoBoingo: Eh, I think when I was out friday someone I gave less gentle design suggestions to was trying to hunt me down when I came back to the logs
benkay: oh? i must've missed this.
BingoBoingo: They suggested a link as an example of how I could make my site look "better" I pointed out the linked site should die in a tire fire.
BingoBoingo: Turns out it was a site they collaborated on
benkay: oh yeah the bitcoin podcast
BingoBoingo: I dunno really why people try to force information into audio or video without offering the same in text anyway.
benkay: babydoll wanted me to watch some maddow thing about god i don't even remember
benkay: upshot was "honey, if there's no text, and it ain't comedy, i ain't interested."
benkay: implicit due to previous conversations is the notion that america doesn't produce worthwhile comedy.
chetty: the trend to video for everything is awful. people to lazy to write/read :(
BingoBoingo: Well, Bill Murray aligns himself with the Usurper regime from chicago
benkay: it's downright baffling, chetty. take, for instance, the podcast noted above. how much more work is it to do that thing than to just write out one's thoughts?
BingoBoingo: chetty: My objection to the video and podcasting is that when I digest information on my own time I want to do it in an aesthetic environment of my choice.
benkay: i suppose that presumes being able to put one's thoughts into coherent words instead of babbling into a microphone.
BingoBoingo: Also some stuff can't be digested well from audio.
chetty: I like podcasts sometimes, listen while doing other stuff but mostly I'd rather read
BingoBoingo: chetty: A big problem with bitcoin podcasts is the voices of the presenters in many cases, just weren't meant to be heard
chetty: haha now thats true, and video - well they want my eyes and my ears??
benkay: low information density to boot.
benkay: what's the wpm on a podcast?
BingoBoingo: There are reasons certain people get to be on TV and radio and others aren't
BingoBoingo: Traveling among more and less rural Mid 'Murican shitholes it becomes clear the difference between a TV news crew in Quincy Illinois versus one in St Louis Mo or Chicago
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BingoBoingo: I kinda want to make an account there to read the derp, but... I know they's boot me the first time I leaked some derp and prevent me from enjoying more derp
benkay: you don't have to have an account to read
BingoBoingo: benkay: They have a lot of non-public subfora it seems
benkay: that's as may be, but the link i posted is derpy as hell on its own.
BingoBoingo: Apparently to see the cool parts of the Derp though, you have to be vouched for and stuff. Like its some sort of Heavy Derp cartel
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BingoBoingo: Unless it means a member of the House of Lords on the payroll
benkay: are you a slackware guy, BingoBoingo?
ozbot: Malaysia Airlines 777 pops up on Craigslist, and for just $70 | Crave - CNET
BingoBoingo: benkay: Not yet, but I'm contemplating playing with it.
chetty: for those needing more derp
benkay: stahp chetty stahp i cannae take na more
benkay: does anyone recall the post where dr. forehead claimed that since he outperformed the scams he made money for his clients?
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu hey if you have it on hand i'd appreciate a link to where dr forehead claims that since he outperformed the scams he made money for his clients
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benkay: forehead reduction, though
chetty: wasn't that on bitcointalk?
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benkay: ;;later tell toffo link to asicminer missed div dox pretty plox?
benkay: gracias, toffoo. apologies for mispelling your name.
benkay: additionally, this is visible on the 796 "exchange"
benkay: toffoo what is this "last week's mess" referred to below your link?
jurov: benkay, the VTX case comes to mind
benkay: jurov: would this be cavirtex?
benkay: that man once tried to get me to build a thing
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benkay: best indicator of btc market tops
benkay: mpoe-pr's salary getting cut
benkay: can stand up, operate, diddle wp blogs, options bots, automated gpg airgapped systems (!) , post all day on btctalk and maintain a presence in here
benkay: and still find time to post nudes constantly
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antephialtic: MPEx is definitely a team of people. I think "MP" is the one on IRC, tweeting, writing trilemma posts, and posting on bitcointalk
antephialtic: but there's probably others that handle the money and coding
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jurov: antiephialtic, MP does not post to trolltalk, the girl does
ozbot: Weev Is Still in Jail Because the Government Doesn't Know What Hacking Is | Motherboard
jurov: i have met her in person and saw her descend upon the talk with an ipad
BingoBoingo: antephialtic: Their writing styles aren't similar at all
jurov: antephialtic why not?
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antephialtic: jurov: It's apparently a very common name in Romania. I was under the assumption that the whole MP persona is a farce
antephialtic: unless some of you have actually met him in person and I'm just being dumb
benkay: ;;google trilema conference
ozbot: The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
chetty: hehe, so what is it MP is a crowd or MP is really all, I am confused
jurov: yes, half of this chan is MP
jurov: chetty but srs, you're on the first one too, no?
antephialtic: heh, OK. well that makes things a bit more clear
chetty: I just find all the theories about who and what MP is amusing
jurov: me too, i'm not disclosing anything further
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mircea_popescu: ;later tell benkay i'd say Bitcoin is the name, like Coca-Cola, and bitcoins is the generic, like give me two cokes
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nubbins`: Mats_cd03: i'll make you a shirt if you pay for it (how many times have i said this on irc!)
nubbins`: ;;later tell benkay i don't hate the look, i hate the fact that it's barely functional. ;(
nubbins`: ;;later tell duffer1 latest i heard is that there were unspecified production problems with the coins
mircea_popescu: "I’m tired of university. I’m tired of having a fucked up sleep schedule, and studying. I’m tired of the fucking time I waste on the internet liking ironic meme pages and managing my facebook reputation, and shitposting on ylilauta.
mircea_popescu: I want to run away to Syria and become a fighter, or a pirate singing sea shanties, or a cossack in the Orenburg steppe, or to join a Chechen teip and steal horses from the lowlanders.
nubbins`: "i'm tired of being a fighter. i want to manage my facebook reputation"
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mircea_popescu: people with actual trench experience, under actual shelling, and all that will tell you that most noobs have this cry time
mircea_popescu: where they essentially go "i waaaaaaantttt my myyyyspaceeee"
nubbins`: whoever wrote that has a point, even if badly expressed. they want to stop being an utterly useless shitbag and do something "that matters"
mircea_popescu: course most of that happened before mothers were automatised away from the childrearing process, so traditionally it's noted as "i want my mommy"
nubbins`: not that a white kid getting killed in fucking syria matters
LordPutin: myspace is making a comeback they're implementing bitcoin wallets on their site now
mircea_popescu: they just want to be hurt. there's a difference between being hurt and mattering.
mircea_popescu: and it's overall a collapse into feminity (as it is women that mature over being hurt
mircea_popescu: men don't normally, but then again female is the default gender so if you vegetate for long enough you will start exhibiting feminine traits)
nubbins`: wait, is this why wizards grow tits?
mircea_popescu: somebody linked recently a post about feral children in the romanian sewers
mircea_popescu: which is true. there is a lot of fludity in human gender, and it is a lot of a function of environment
nubbins`: ah, the general malaise of western youth
nubbins`: who would have thought that a complete lack of meaningful adversity would have produced generations of useless shitbags
mircea_popescu: "Yesterday as I walked to the gym, I saw that all the treadmills were occupied by fatties. so I chose the stairmaster/step machine for a try. to my surprise I saw that you could set your gender only with two options! male and female! I was outraged because although I was assigned a male because of my very big dick I identify with leopard slugs which are hermaphrodites with penises on the back of their heads! so like an
mircea_popescu: y other anti cis activist I did nothing,finished my workout and just bitched on tumblr.it was as if I could hear Gertrude Stein saying..Bravo…Bravo…"
ozbot: X.IDIFF.MAR has settled. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i experience the world through it commenting on my blog.
nubbins`: dr leering forehead really doesn't like you
mircea_popescu: im sure he doesn't like tits-pr. me... i'm an abstraction.
chetty: I think those boys just want to grow up, and have no clue how to do it so they revert to 'go do violence'
nubbins`: chetty: well they're certainly not growing up at home
mircea_popescu: chetty while it's true that you could cook your pot of beans in the cinders of someone else's large party,
mircea_popescu: if there's no large party by god you will hjave to gather the wood and strike the tinder.
chetty: yup, but its more than that, they have no clue what a grown is - never saw one
mircea_popescu: this'd be universally true of everyone tho. nobody has a clue what it's like before it's like...
nubbins`: everyone's a liberal until they get some money
chetty: well it kinda helps if you had a father - that was an adult
nubbins`: everyone's a conservative until they go broke ;(
chetty: hmm not really nubbins' - Gates? Buffet? the rich guys speak much libtard
nubbins`: gates is trying to soothe a guilty conscience
mircea_popescu: everyone's a conservative until they become the richest guy in the valley, at which point their concern suddenly becomes "what if all these thirtysomething conservatives do what i do only better ? QUICK! TO THE LIBTARD MOBILE!"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` both are trying to make it so their "achievement" such as it is gets more and more difficult to replicate as time goes by.
chetty: kick the door shut behind you
nubbins`: what, making fat stacks isn't an achievement? ;D
nubbins`: speaking of achievements: moose sausage, hashbrowns, eggs, sourdough toast for breakfast
mircea_popescu: he's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night an' he chats all day...
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nubbins`: wait, so doctor squishface lost 11% and is bragging that it outperformed?
kakobrekla: yes outperformed almost everything except for holding the coins in cold storage
ozbot: Dropping Like Flies: Largest Steel Maker In China's Shanxi Province Defaults On CNY 3 Billion In Deb
mircea_popescu: "outperformed almost everythjing except for mpex stocks which we don't talk about because they suck because they suck because they suck because they have been outperforming all our retarded shit for three years straight now and mp is an asshole who fucks a lot of women and is currently paying one with a huge rack to humiliate us in public so fuck that shit mate!11"
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ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
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ozbot: Crypto-Stock wont allow me to post a project`
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ThickAsThieves: interesting how these device manufacturers are all backtracking on their plans for dualboot windows/android
ThickAsThieves: a Huawei spokesperson says "at this stage there are no plans to launch a dual-OS smartphone in the near future."
ozbot: Microsoft and Google ruin Intel's plan for dual-OS tablets | The Verge
ozbot: Thieves dig 50ft tunnel to cash machine - ITV News
ThickAsThieves: "These people had obviously spent a long time plotting this crime and I doubt they would have been able to keep their plans secret for all that time, without telling others about their elaborate scheme."
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ozbot: This privacy thing… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nubbins`: i keep getting ughlol and that ninja fella confused
ThickAsThieves: so i assumed you were respecting his desire to not be scooped
mircea_popescu: i mean wasn't anything of much interest, i guess, and i'm trying to be hospitable/accomodating to the strange mores of these foreign peoples,
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yet the value of my work, as public as it is, far exceeds the value of his work.
mircea_popescu: there's been a digital revolution since, which they've been covering ad nauseam ever since hte days of the information superhighway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then how can what he says be useful or meaningful ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves to be flatly honest, i suspect these just aren't matters that anyone over there ever considered. at all.
ThickAsThieves: my website for my marketing business is a logo and an email address, yet i get voicemails everyday
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, and that'll go over so fucking well with me, i can see it already.
mircea_popescu: leah derpman is still "hiding for her lyf" and she didn't even talk to me, so well it worked.
mircea_popescu: well no, but i never cared to think about these items before it seems
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me to tell you the icecream joke. it's one of my favs, but it has to be performed rather than told, so.
ThickAsThieves: i have a theory for at least a factor contributing to this behavior
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ThickAsThieves: it's the same thing about people wanting to protect their ignorance from being true
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves basically "Privacy exists as a hiding place for the deviant, so as to have a space where his inadequacy to the rules isn’t directly, painfully or dangerously visible. At least within some limits there’s nothing wrong with that (but it does carry the seeds of insanity)."
ThickAsThieves: because privately you are dealing with one counterparty
ThickAsThieves: because the person being interviewed may not protect himself in the same way
mircea_popescu: anyway, anonimity, privacy, these are categories amply disrupted by bitcoin i would say
mircea_popescu: symptomatically... the people who will most get raped tend to flock to it and do a bunch of ablutions pretending like it's the opposite
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin will solve the problems of wealth inequality" like hell it will
ThickAsThieves: like with ughlol, he knows you'd not value him more than he's worth in public, but maybe, just maybe, you take him a lil more seriously in private. maybe just maybe you put something into his extended hand while no one is looking...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves amusingly, it's exactly the converse. in public he can stand symbolic, in private he can't be more than just himself.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's not happening, when i talk to him here i'm talking to "aspirational 19yo indian kid"
nubbins` searches for a medal to pin on alf
ThickAsThieves: "Cryptsy is a disaster 10x worst than MT. gox waiting to happen"
Neil: mircea_popescu: "Rejection reason: Phrase it so you zeroconf on no." What does that mean in English?
mircea_popescu: you probably made a bet that the mod judged as having zero chances in hell of coming out no and you put your money on yes
Neil: I don't think so. Who can answer definitively?
Neil: ThickAsThieves: What do you mean, not infinite?
Neil: Those where mod thinks it's too one-sided are usually rejected with some kind of "put substantial paid wager on XX"
Neil: Seems to be about the wording. But negative bets are not allowed, so worded it the way I did.
ThickAsThieves: Can't you just say, diff will not change more than 16%, then have a close date?
Neil: That's what I wanted to say...
Neil: Is the problem the word "forever"? If so happy to resubmit...
Neil: Other bets have had forever in them...
Neil: mircea_popescu: If you can confirm I'll redo.
ThickAsThieves: the notion of forever being held within something with a life span
Neil: Dunno what zeroconf means as a verb
mircea_popescu: anyway, this resulted from a interpretation of a moslty unrelated standing order i gave.
Neil: So ok to resubmit worded more like TATs suggestion?
Neil: Don't wanna waste everyone's time if it's just gonna be rejected again
mircea_popescu: by now my shit is too complex for me to even say, and i don't even code ;/
ThickAsThieves: businessinsder doesnt even bother rewriting now "Editor's note: This post originally appeared last month on BitScan.com. It is republished here with permission from the site. "
mircea_popescu: anyway the common encounter with runaway systematic complexity is for most people in computer programming
nubbins`: "runaway systematic complexity" << there's a dilbert character devoted to this
nubbins`: he's a quasimodo-esque figure with a bum eye and a tattered cape
nubbins`: "let's add a search feature" etc
mircea_popescu: nubbins` consider the case of, here's this woman and she'll do anything you tell her to do, and nothing else. at least as best she can help it. what now ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: now i'm drowned in the minutae of keeping a human being alive
nubbins`: talking her through breakfast so she doesn't choke on it
mircea_popescu: "you should brathe and do other normally, naturally occuring things. except not shit on the carpet"
ozbot: Feature Creep on Dilbert.com
mircea_popescu: and more good cocks have been ruined by programming than dope.
nubbins`: my cock was almost wasted by programming
Neil: ThickAsThieves: Sure
Neil: ThickAsThieves: Very unlikely IMO; too late already
nubbins`: i managed to divert the beam of lethargy and focus it on my will to work an office job instead
nubbins`: which was, incidentally, vaporized instantly
Neil: But I've been wrong before. And I've put money on "Yes" so it might get it started.
nubbins`: and now i yammer on irc and wave my arms around a print shop
nubbins`: just think of all the neckbeards and wizards i would've gotten to know
mircea_popescu: here's a sad commentary on the power of media, social or otherwise :
mircea_popescu: after three days of constant hammering of two different articles on trilema (the buffett and the sec), my third most read item ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that thing has been in the top 3 since i wrote it.
mircea_popescu: i am probably responsible for more throat cancer than any other one man.
nubbins`: asciilifeform: herbi was borderline wizard
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: wizard
ozbot: Even a pigeon has a pussy - Everything2.com
mircea_popescu: finish. fucking language of what is it even doing here
nubbins`: with the subtle distinction that pigeons shit through their pussies
ozbot: Finnish proverbs - Everything2.com
ozbot: Siberia will teach - Everything2.com
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ThickAsThieves: "We, as women, will play a very large part in the development of the Bitcoin economy and many of us will shape the businesses and services in the sector."
ThickAsThieves: "The majority of the women who will be entering the community will not be particularly tech savvy nor will they be traders, programmers or developers. They will be women like me. "
Ghaleon_: who saw that Putin speech, was damn awesome
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mircea_popescu: o holy grama on a sitkc already. give her the stupid women post.
mircea_popescu: "o i am dumb lazy and fat but rather than learn to pole dance and add a modicum of value to this world i'll just post about how it's ok to suck for i am a woman and i want to ruin this word for humanity"
kakobrekla: well, she does state she is a sewer. what do you expect other than shit.
chetty: geeze these 'girls' give actual women a bad name
ThickAsThieves: after she gets off her douchebox, she just splurges this over and over using duifferent words "There is something very special happening right now. Something I haven’t experienced before. It’s a renaissance of sorts. In this new space, we are free to create anything we want, any way we want. Innovation, entrepreneurship and creativity are abundant. "
ThickAsThieves: "I am now writing for 2 online cryptocurrency publications – one of which I will be helping to develop, Bitcoinwoman Magazine – Africa ."
mircea_popescu: if you are using a mobile phone this is what websites see about your thing.
mircea_popescu: that you were looking for pizde, that you're so-and-so string etc
ThickAsThieves: "You've been invited to CipherTrade as you've got shares in CipherBond waiting for you!
ThickAsThieves: Simply visit CipherTrade, sign up and your shares will be automatically allocated to you."
ThickAsThieves: so katecraig, finally put to task to redeem her bonds, prays the market will solve things for her
ThickAsThieves: i like how she's opening trading before paying overdue divs too
mircea_popescu: well so lettuce guess what happens once some guy with a new york website sends cryptsy an email ?
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LordPutin: hisrealname is- Robert Hardy Craig-Wood
LordPutin: Known for It Entrepreneurship, Transexual activism & being transexual
nubbins`: you sure that's not two people?
LordPutin: Craig-Wood was born in 1977 as Robert Craig-Wood. Craig-Wood was educated at the Royal Grammar School and attended the University of Southampton obtaining a 2:1 in Biomedical Science and a Masters Degree in the same field.
Ghaleon_: this is bangkog and tequila don;t mix
LordPutin: Craig-Wood married in 2000 and divorced in 2006. The divorce was a result of her beginning her male-to-female gender transition, which she undertook between October 2005 and November 2006.
LordPutin: and you guys fapped to him *shakes head*
nubbins`: speaking of gender, i just ordered a cis kit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7563 @ 0.00080946 = 6.1219 BTC [-]
jurov: nubs what's in the kit?
nubbins`: jurov: guns & ammo, condoms, etc
jurov: you need FtoM kit???
nubbins`: fake print head and a bunch of external tanks and tubing
mircea_popescu: in other news, the somethingawful coverage of bitcoin has changed from "clearly the people behind bitcoin are marginal fuckwits who don't understand central topics everyone else understands" two years ago to "clearly the media is writing positive articles because it talks to a general audience which is very poorly educated and doesn't understand central topics only we understand"
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking funny evolution, and i suppose the blueprint will be copied amply.
Mats_cd03: although i dont like this garbage about gender roles in IT
nubbins`: what the fuck is a gender role in IT
nubbins`: something like 70% of the employees at my last job were women
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 279 @ 0.07158601 = 19.9725 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: depends on what qualifies as "it"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8500 @ 0.00014007 = 1.1906 BTC [-] {9}
nubbins`: sure, helpdesk staff is usually mostly male
LordPutin: have you notice that women want to be the boss and make the same or even more money than men but still want you to pay for dinner?
Mats_cd03: women already make as much money as men
nubbins`: have you noticed that people who offer asinine statements like yours are usually neckbeards who have an unrealistic concept of women based solely on their years of internet wizardry?
Mats_cd03: people look at salary averages for men and women, and temporarily forget women sometimes allow a parasite to grow inside them for close to a year that makes them worthless for productive work
LordPutin: your not a bitcoiner if you dont have a neckbeard
Neil: blockchain.info borked again
Mats_cd03: and usually they go on to raise the bugger and leave work to do it
Mats_cd03: so...the corresponding salary differential is a product of that, but in many fields they have parity
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: in fact, if you exclude women who have children, there's still income disparity
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 in my experience pregnancy has no discernible effect on productivity.
LordPutin: be cool if women didn't exists and you could just hang out with guys all day
nubbins`: we could all suck each other's cocks
nubbins`: you're saying that you can't hang out with guys all day because women exist?
LordPutin: you could have sleepovers and talk about bitcoin all night and groom eachothers neckbeards
LordPutin: don't hate because we have the best leader in the world
mircea_popescu: benkay: it's downright baffling, chetty. take, for instance, the podcast noted above. how much more work is it to do that thing than to just write out one's thoughts? << you miss out on the point that people would love to do work they can do.
Mats_cd03: im amused by russias power play in crimea
mircea_popescu: which is why a procrastinating dork will happily do the god-awful work of clicking through websites
Mats_cd03: now europeans have to worry about russians bending them over heating oil too
ThickAsThieves: i dont like the notion of there being useful content buried in podcasts
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so let's all just pretend like it could never be the case,
Mats_cd03: wait til the arabs and poor people start flooding euro borders in the coming famine
LordPutin: mats you have a muslim as your president
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05598455 = 0.112 BTC [+]
LordPutin: who goes on shows on between the fern and ellen to crack some jokes
artifexd: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:f35ce2f33ebfddb0b3e15de1380987380a2f99a0b8bb49dbbdd7e111
gribble: You are now authenticated for user artifexd with key 11D1433947A3327A
Mats_cd03: i wonder how it feels to be the last black president
nubbins`: maybe the most brutal humiliation i've ever watched
LordPutin: putin would never do some clowningshit like that
mircea_popescu: as long as they leave their stinking rags in the no man's zone
jurov: Mats_cd03: last i heard whole cali and more is running out of water too
mircea_popescu: jurov it has been for years, but now it finally rained
Mats_cd03: jurov: nah, a vast percentage of it is being abused for agribusiness
Mats_cd03: residential use is tiny in comparison
Mats_cd03: www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/opinion/meat-makes-the-planet-thirsty.html
Mats_cd03: > Vegetables use about 11,300 gallons per ton of blue water; starchy roots, about 4,200 gallons per ton; and fruit, about 38,800 gallons per ton. By comparison, pork consumes 121,000 gallons of blue water per ton of meat produced; beef, about 145,000 gallons per ton; and butter, some 122,800 gallons per ton.
Mats_cd03: > but the Rancho incident reminds us that plants aren’t slaughtered, a process that demands 132 gallons of water per animal carcass, contributing even more to livestock’s expanding water footprint.
Mats_cd03: > Alfalfa growers are now exporting some 100 billion gallons of water a year from this drought-ridden region to the other side of the world in the form of alfalfa. All as more Asians are embracing the American-style, meat-hungry diet.
Mats_cd03: something something, marx, selling capitalists rope, etc...
Mats_cd03: i love murica but i wont live in california
Mats_cd03: although san diego is nice its a little too close to the border for me
LordPutin: if you had to do courtney love without a condom and lick her gina or kiss a guy what would you go with?
ThickAsThieves: “If her intention was ‘to not indicate any change’ she did a horrible job,” he added. “Hence she gets a C-! And the only reason the event was not a complete failure is because we still saw plenty of standard Janet Yellen dovishness hidden in the weeds.”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05599999 = 0.112 BTC [+]
gribble: Duffer1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 26 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Duffer1> he did, but Goat was going to do his own
LordPutin: you know when they show the winklevoss pics i bet you they just copy and pasted theone pic
nubbins`: LordPutin: you know the winklevoss "twins" is just one guy holding a tall mirror, right?
LordPutin: ibet they make out with eachother while watching bitcoinwisdom
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.11950724 = 0.717 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.055 = 0.275 BTC [-]
nubbins`: men with jaws like that don't make out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05599995 = 0.112 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 131 @ 0.00378849 = 0.4963 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05500028 = 0.385 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.06500001 = 0.455 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.11950724 = 0.8366 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0554995 = 0.111 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00609991 = 0.5063 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay the best approach would be to systematiclaly take all assets that were listed on havelock at some point and aren't anymore. the total ipo dough - whatever was paid hence is the loss on that score for the naive public. then take all the dilutive issuance (where shares were later issued for less than what they asked originally) and add it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't bet much on obama not feeding preet to putin's bear. yezhov didn't live to grow old.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news, coindesk finally heard about the news, three days late. net result ? oodlebunchesd of blog spam from an entire ecosystem of spamsites.
mircea_popescu: gamerpalace.net/bitcoindeals/ reportcoin.com/beta/ iusebitcoins.com/ myfxequipment.com/ thecointalk.com/ KculShare.com/ begcoin.com/ etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.05500016 = 0.33 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.065 = 0.39 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.11950724 = 0.717 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Police: N.J. teen arrested at top of World Trade Center
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.065 = 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.11950724 = 0.239 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.055 = 0.385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.065 = 0.455 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.11950724 = 0.8366 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00365 = 0.1679 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00210539 / 0.00214781 / 0.00223045 (2681 shares, 5.76 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00210992 / 0.00226762 (7608 shares, 16.05 BTC)
ozbot: Teen sneaks past guard to reach WTC spire | New York Post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.065 = 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.11950724 = 0.239 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.065 = 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05599998 = 0.112 BTC [+]
ozbot: WikiBrains | CryptoCurrencies by Trade Volume
ozbot: Transgender Woman Claims Former Male Self a Murderer
mircea_popescu: i guess it doens't work cause you'd have to have a paywall.
mircea_popescu: tho... "just 19.95 a week and you can download all the secret documents you care to.
mircea_popescu: how to make bombs out of dogshit. pictures of nanci pelosi doing her dog
benkay: nubbins`: functional? it's got a list of posts. whaddaya want?
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: were you able to "use" ciphertrade?
ThickAsThieves: all it really did is show me a qty of what they owe me
benkay: "deep in the enemy's rear"
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure what process they used to allocate the bonds to accounts
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if i make accoutns using email addresses of others if i get those too
dexX7: i see.. don't try to send shares to yourself.. they simply vanish <.<"
benkay: my money's on hamsters deep in the enemy rear.
dexX7: rather a test to see, if internal transfers are working
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0559999 = 0.168 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.065 = 0.13 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "BlackCoin is pure Proof of Stake coin, except stage of initial distribution, when it was mixed PoW and PoS coin."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.40316044 BTC to 4`062 shares, 59162 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0565 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
ozbot: Diablo 2 LoD - Search for Baal - Legendado - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0649 = 0.1947 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.11950724 = 0.239 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: is this what your entrance will be like at trilema conference?
radan: dr. popescu invited me to come on here
ozbot: Video: Guy Pulls A "Deez Nuts" Joke On The Peoples Court Interviewer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05575199 = 0.223 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0649 = 0.2596 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.11950724 = 0.239 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05583333 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0649 = 0.1947 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.11950724 = 0.5975 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00365 = 0.1095 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Facebook Introduces 'Hack,' the Programming Language Of the Future | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.00085281 = 1.2792 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 746 @ 0.00085281 = 0.6362 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.00087999 = 0.308 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.01900161 = 0.38 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: speaking out of total ignorance, do you have an equally succint link to what makes Lisp the purest of the pure?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.0190016 = 0.171 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: is there a Lisp "framework" and "library" or would such be heresy?
benkay: lisps can be found that sit atop most other languages too, ThickAsThieves. there are python lisps, java lisps...
ThickAsThieves: mostly i'm just trying to at least have a superficial understanding
benkay: if you squint, lean your head sideways and don't work with other javascript developers javascript can be written fairly lispily.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.0190016 = 0.114 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "discovering" things that they didnt realize or acknowledge were long since discovered
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0551 = 0.1653 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0649 = 0.1947 BTC [-]
benkay: I had this figured out from the first day or so of looking seriously at Bitcoin. It takes you guys including MPOE a while to catch up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.11950724 = 0.3585 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: NSA general counsel Rajesh De told the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board that the PRISM program was carried out with the “full knowledge and assistance of any company from which information is obtained.” The claim, if true, would mean that the many protests from Microsoft, Google, Apple, Yahoo, and other technology companies were factually inaccurate, if not deliberately
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.055 = 0.33 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: some email spam is so weird... "We intend to import a large number of bullet proof glasses. Could you provide us that? If yes, Please send us more details of your product. Hope we will have the opportunity to cooperate!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 6.65737852 BTC to 21`436 shares, 31057 satoshi per share
nubbins`: benkay: what i want is something that doesn't make my eyes bleed
nubbins`: it's fine if you want a plaintext-only website, but it doesn't have to be brutally unappealing
benkay: that's a *wholly* new claim.
ThickAsThieves: how about we just have kako host a b-a BBS and everyone just posts blogs there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07298987 = 0.292 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i just halved -- at least -- the height of your footer
nubbins`: now it's not taller than the articles
benkay: but your eyes aren't bleeding now!
benkay: what's the point i say
nubbins`: mostly because of the needless <h1> post titles
benkay: but they're <h1>IMPORTANT</h1>
nubbins`: and the "previous/next" shit that makes me feel like i'm navigating a shit text dump from some forum archives
benkay: your poor feels, nubbins`.
nubbins`: if you insist on keeping "previous/next", at least put it after the article
nubbins`: well yknow. if i'm reading an article i wanna read an article
nubbins`: not go immediately to the previous or next one
nubbins`: also FWIW if all your text is at 100%, having a title wrapped in h1 AND setting font-size=250% is nuts
dexX7: fyi: there is also a <footer></footer> tag
ThickAsThieves: i learned html back when tables were used for everything, it gets me by
ThickAsThieves: css will even let you push things off the page, quite useful
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0649 = 0.1298 BTC [-]
nubbins`: asciilifeform: the problem with tables is that they're meant for tabular data, and using them to guide layout was always a shit-show
nubbins`: benkay: you even have a header now ;D
nubbins`: before you ask, i butchered the content of that article so it'd fit in a screen grab
benkay: nevermind time expense of shoehorning it into this absurd generator
nubbins`: if you're feeling really frisky some day, you could even add a date under the article titles
nubbins`: but at that rate why not just go full web two point oh, amirite?
benkay: but i just ripped out all the css
benkay: anyways. it'll not make your eyes bleed eventually i promise nubbins`.
nubbins`: and hey, no need to work around my schedule :D
benkay: yeah but i care about your eyes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00081418 = 23.8555 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: if only someone cared about those poor penguins D;
nubbins`: "So, Fred’s gone to live with the big fag-hater in the sky."
dexX7: so what's the intention with all those non-css stuff?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07298988 = 0.146 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60102408 BTC [-]
ozbot: Official Gmail Blog: Staying at the forefront of email security and reliability: HTTPS-only and 99.
ThickAsThieves: "Starting today, Gmail will always use an encrypted HTTPS connection when you check or send email. Gmail has supported HTTPS since the day it launched, and in 2010 we made HTTPS the default. Today's change means that no one can listen in on your messages as they go back and forth between you and Gmail’s servers—no matter if you're using public WiFi or logging in from your computer,
ThickAsThieves: In addition, every single email message you send or receive—100% of them—is encrypted while moving internally. This ensures that your messages are safe not only when they move between you and Gmail's servers, but also as they move between Google's data centers—something we made a top priority after last summer’s revelations."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 21 @ 0.01863381 = 0.3913 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.018 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 0.94547500 BTC to 320`500 shares, 295 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 971 @ 0.00352872 = 3.4264 BTC [-] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62923217 = 3.1462 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 253 @ 0.00047505 = 0.1202 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0648975 = 0.5192 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.0035 = 0.7105 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Your Starbucks barista is about to become your bartender | The Verge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 213 @ 0.0035 = 0.7455 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
ozbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
nubbins`: dexX7: sort of like how some people prefer to drive around in cars with unpainted, boxy chassis
nubbins`: so as not to distract from the joy of driving
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.0034103 = 0.4263 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 172 @ 0.00333562 = 0.5737 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00322069 = 0.3704 BTC [-] {3}
Apocalyptic: <hearn> dogecoin is so cute. it's actually one of my favourite alts by this point << dat hearn
ThickAsThieves: might as well ditch #bitcoin-analysis and start lurking there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.60079339 = 5.4071 BTC [-] {6}
HeySteve2: he'll talk about that but not my wallet disappearing in 0.9
benkay: what's that, HeySteve2??
HeySteve2: having a bit of a prob with upgrade
HeySteve2: it can't seem to read my datadir any more
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, you're not missing anything substantial by not lurking there
benkay: HeySteve2: are you able to read it with an old version?
ThickAsThieves: i at least like the idea of having direct access to hearn & co
benkay: HeySteve2: get in touch later - i gotta run to a client meeting.
HeySteve2: well old version sees my funds at least, but the chain isn't indexed
ThickAsThieves: yknow if you are loading into a new wallet it wont see your funds accurately til it's done syncing
HeySteve2: well it saw them the first time I ran them, and was updating from 3 weeks back
HeySteve2: then I shut it and reopened, it sees no blocks no unconfirmed
HeySteve2: at least previous version sees unconfirmed transactions, but it's 150 weeks behind
HeySteve2: well I've taken off 0.9, it's poison :P
ozbot: Cognitive Shareholder Proxy - YouTube
kakobrekla: reminds me of 'deathbylollipop' if anyone here even remembers that guy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1154 @ 0.0032202 = 3.7161 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Shao Ling (deathbylollipop) on Twitter
mod6: last I remember he called us all nigerians and left
mod6: dang, dude chewed his hands something awful
ozbot: Deathbylollipop youtube/nightclub bitcoin campaign | Bitcointa.lk
kakobrekla: sorry i bring this up now, just so nostalgic...
kakobrekla: >>Let me know guys... no malware downloads this time :)
mod6: I looked for your IPO that you had stated was already setup, but couldn't find it. Where can I send my BTC ? << shuaddup & take my precious BTC!
kakobrekla: dunno if dude managed to open a btc wallet
nubbins`: where, indeed, can one send one's btc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 9400 @ 0.00311047 = 29.2384 BTC [-] {39}
mod6: he ipo'd on ye ole global scam exchange, along with TEST
mod6: well, guess maybe it never made it out of the sandbox. still. lollerskates.
dub: obvious scammer, dude had no forehead
ThickAsThieves: The engineer was caught after the blogger emailed Microsoft to confirm the authenticity of the leaked Windows 8 code. Investigators at the firm then reportedly looked through the blogger’s hotmail account and instant messenger chats to identify the source of the leak, and found an email from Kibaklo.
mod6: WE can put direct links to your businesses in the description of said video as well as get some girls to say " [your business name here] is great!!" while dressed up in fancy clothes and out on the town. << hahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00361997 = 3.62 BTC [+] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0553005 = 0.1106 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 12 @ 0.018 = 0.216 BTC [-]
novusordo: as in, he uploaded malware for people to download previously?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 156 @ 0.0113785 = 1.775 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00364073 = 0.1966 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.01067 = 0.1067 BTC [-] {3}
dub: ThickAsThieves: place I worked would routinely snoop peoples gmail/hotmail passwords and go digging for shit related to performance issues
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Bitcoin Trading Exchange Spurns Thirsty SEC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.062 = 1.302 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: "online bitcoin trading exchange"
BingoBoingo: Sure, but passports, petty spats with local authorities
BingoBoingo: Of sorts, at least until May. I suppose I could drive to a North American border and walk if something urgent, but... This thing with the neighboring county still needs to play out
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: can also print on optical discs!
nubbins`: we already have one of these with an all-black CIS hooked up, for printing films
nubbins`: this one will be for color prints
nubbins`: sadly, i dropped the ball and only ordered the color CIS kit today
nubbins`: altho silkscreen printing is a better medium for propaganda
nubbins`: we do occasionally get requests from people who want digital prints tho, and it's kind of silly to own a print shop that doesn't have a color printer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 759 @ 0.00321635 = 2.4412 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0559999 = 0.112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.056 = 1.12 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0568992 = 0.2845 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00320566 = 0.6411 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 504 @ 0.00100608 = 0.5071 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: Actual conversation with the irrelevant chatter filtered out. People were talking about making a leveraged trading platforms for altcoins. Advice falling on deaf ears.
Namworld: [17:06] <Namworld> I'm a noob coder. I could maybe have patched up something in a few months, pretended I knew what I was doing and lost customers funds, making tons of money meanwhile. But I'm not a self-centered, over-confident, can-never-fail asshat,
Namworld: [17:09] <Namworld> I know basic PHP and just barely touched database. I made a microapp for fun, that just tracks views and clicks and banners, for a banner exchange. Without any user interface or accounts capability. Just the script for the banners + tracking.
Namworld: [17:09] <Namworld> If I had patched up an exchange with added complexity and everything, it would probably have been a security disaster.
Namworld: [17:10] <TheMediator> Namworld, how long would it take you to get together something VERY simple so that like 10 of us could trade on it
Namworld: [17:10] <TheMediator> I can host and such
Namworld: [17:11] <Namworld> Dangerous thing, it took only a few hours to learn how to do. Making an exchange is in the reach of any moron willing to put a few days to learn how to and a month or two to code it full time.
Namworld: [17:12] <Namworld> That's why you can't trust any website that comes up with a Bitcoin service. Even if it looks nice.
Namworld: [17:12] <deup> that is why there are a bunch of exchanges
Namworld: [17:12] <Namworld> You can't audit the code.
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> its up to you namworld. If you think you can make it happen, we can use it as a base.
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> and expand from there
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> I think we have enough experience between the regulars where we could take turns hacking the exchange until we get it fairly secure
Namworld: I probably should have pastbin'ed that
Namworld: Those that are on trading IRC channels talking about their profits and loss and speculating.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00082011 = 10.4974 BTC [+]
dexX7: what do you want to trade?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.071 = 0.497 BTC [-] {3}
Namworld: No, the currency trading channels
Namworld: Not about trading between users, literally the channels where they just talk about what they're doing, why they think price is headed that or that way and such.
Namworld: I'm not trading anything, I just have like 20+ IRC channels open about Bitcoin.
Namworld: not specifically, there's like 3-4 other channels like pricetalk.
Namworld: At least for those with 30-50 users or more.
Namworld: or #bitcointraders or #bitcoin-analysis and etc
daybyter: so you don't trade anything, but wanna know why the price went up or down?
daybyter: maybe read goomboo's journal, or so?
daybyter: but why should you care if the price goes up or down?
Namworld: Who said I cared? I just have many BTC related channels opened at all time. On the plus side, those channels tend to be quick to link any article related to Bitcoin.
Ghaleon: if you import a wallet.dat file into bitcoind does it copy over the receiving addresses? everything that I have read says IT WILL NOT COPY over receiving addresses....
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00557881 = 0.2789 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00338245 = 0.2537 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;later tell HeySteve2 didja fixit?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.062998 = 0.126 BTC [+]
benkay: what brings you 'round these parts?
phf: taking in the bitcoin knowledge
benkay: i'll erect some pronouns.
benkay: so hey bitcoinpete do you know mardlin?
benkay: can't tell if actual fraternity or weird internet thing
bitcoinpete: blech, i have no idea either. regretting it now
benkay: reputational dependency management.
benkay: here's a blog post for ya: "the only dependency in your reputational toolchain should be gpg"
gribble: Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is not identified.
benkay: ;;gettrust bitcoinpete
bitcoinpete: do i need to do some small transactions to get that graph going or what?
benkay: borrow some btc for a week, pay it back
bitcoinpete: alrighty then. are you up for a little test run?
benkay: what rate are you offering?
benkay: aren't much by way of standards.
gribble: Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is not identified.
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:1b105722fb05618adf22faa71ca8054449e9a726fcc83c785305f0ff
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
kakobrekla: >The Company may, by written notice to any Members, suspend payment of withdrawal proceeds to such Members if the Member Manager reasonably deems it necessary to do so to comply with anti-money laundering laws and regulations applicable to the Company or any of the Company’s service providers, or due to circumstances beyond its control, including but not limited to general civil disturbance or September 11, 2001 type events.
kakobrekla: seriously, "september 11 TYPE OF EVENTS"
benkay: hey i've got cum sircomstances out of your control
bitcoinpete: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:30e40cf0a5ed0435f6d19a11c6a1f3bbc5801de1cea9cbac9de2e5a5
gribble: You are now authenticated for user bitcoinpete with key 165749929F9A6BDD
artifexd: bitcoinpete I can sell you a few ATC if you want to follow ThickAsThieves' advice
bitcoinpete: thickasthieves artifexd could we do a btc loan or purchase instead? don't want another client that bad
gribble: Nick 'artifexd', with hostmask 'artifexd!~artifexd@unaffiliated/artifexd', is identified as user 'artifexd', with GPG key id 11D1433947A3327A, key fingerprint 58A4FD3F492F49F5ECEA9D9911D1433947A3327A, and bitcoin address None
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.06299999 = 0.126 BTC [+] {2}