mircea_popescu: fluffypony the vc-derps are pretty much one track. they got one solution for all problems, which is proven to not work for any of them, and they';re sticking to it.
mircea_popescu: contact to ground was lost long enough, by the time graham's in outer space derping to himself about hyperbolics...
thestringpuller: Paul Graham literally believes the best startups are ones that don't scale: "When I interviewed Mark Zuckerberg at Startup School, he said that while it was a lot of work creating course lists for each school, doing that made students feel the site was their natural home."
shinohai: pete_dushenski: Nope, worse. My parents became Evangelical Christians. "Jews for Jesus" if you will.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i admit i've only met two of them, a young couple at pre-natal class, perfectly pleasant really. he even wore a tallit around his waist
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: lol hot damn i was *just* about to start writing up that sexting one. well snagged ! i'll be faster net time.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I just got a lot of momentum going these past couple days
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's complicated. but on the balance of it, too much fat makes you fat. which is problematic for the circulatory system
BingoBoingo: Not one big thing, but a bunch of little things that are better recorded than not.
pete_dushenski: "There are roughly 3 trillion trees on Earth — more than seven times the number previously estimated — according to a tally1 by an international team of scientists." << moar upward revisionism, except this kind is more butthurt for climate doomsdayists
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 03:05:07; asciilifeform: trinque: if you are not among the annointed
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ben_vulpes: nobody is doing anything of 'actual worth' and 'much' is such a wishy-washy term that you can set the bar arbitrarily high.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am
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mircea_popescu: i dunno how one could be 17yo, a us citizen, and NOT sms nude pics of themselves to every single usg official in sighh
mircea_popescu: i wish we had had something like this when i was a kid.
BingoBoingo: State court indictments are a pain, typically involve going to actual courthouse or subscribing to expensive service like Westlaw and praying they sent someone to the courthouse already.
mircea_popescu: step A. get list of phone numbers of everyone. step 2. get all the 100+ sluts you know taking nude pics of themselves. step 3. having same send said pics with appropriate text to the 1.
mircea_popescu: 100 * say 10k = 1mn counts for the system to sort through
BingoBoingo: Whatever Obama jacked off a fish on CNN, that's beastiality
mircea_popescu: wouldja stop presenting as fact things you have literally no idea about ?
mircea_popescu: heck, the japanese even deployed them as a military weapon.
mircea_popescu: so yes, we both see that this could readily be done, and we both see it's not done. i wonder in amazement, you posit a "because". i dun think your position's reasonable.
mircea_popescu: and on the balance of evidence, it's more likely the 17 yo in question have serious autism issues. because they similarly can't talk to girls and so forth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? there's a complaint, there'sd proof. what else.
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mircea_popescu: and besides, who cares abnout eiother of these two. you just taker the whole plum book and execute it all.
mircea_popescu: yes, it's probable they'd come up with some sort of "doesn't count", but should be fun to see nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what i question is, the imbecile adolescent population that is not hard at work breaking the society they live in.
mircea_popescu: no fucking idea who'd even want to fuck them, that broken.
mircea_popescu: too much ex post facto in this. kennedy yes, nixon no, clinton yes, petreus no, etc.
mircea_popescu: how come the woman can lose state secrets via inept emailing, and is ok, the guy can't talk to some random socially-acceptable whore
mircea_popescu: i mean it's just as ex post facto as previously, you just hid it under a rug. srsly, "chewed at straps" ? you just call it that retrospectively.
mircea_popescu: we had this with rockefellers in camps, you are barred from using the line ever again.
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mircea_popescu: your argument was to the name, i delivered the name. it's unsalvageable.
mircea_popescu: incidentally - every time they let a woman near secrets it blew up. there's rice. there's nuland. there's clinton. that's almost all of them.
mircea_popescu: you'd think they'd learn women do not belong at state.
mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf it is, you'd expect they be better than men, generally speaking.
mircea_popescu: just going by the "there's more wives with secret children than men at any given point"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which'd work for the usg rather than for alt-mp because why.
mircea_popescu: irl, "physical army" never works for thios purpose. what you get is, at best, private manning
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i assume you're referring to "The Dark Knight Returns".
mircea_popescu: btw, am i the only one that finds it funny that some dude whose name was MANning decided to be a woman ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller isn't batman this derp with a fortress ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: ah I see. more of a cave. always thought superman was the one with teh "fortress"
mircea_popescu: but the point is, as your brain's not "sovereign" in this sense, no computer ever will be, and there goes that line.
mircea_popescu: what " has to be sovereign over own tools of thought" ?
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mircea_popescu: by this reasoning, real spies could never be caught dead in drag.
mircea_popescu: sophistry is necessarily positive. i'm merely denying.
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pete_dushenski: "For students seeking to make some extra bucks to pay for tuition, Pornhub may be able to help. The adult video website is offering a $25,000 scholarship to a legal age college student who likes making others happy. "
pete_dushenski: except... "We will not seriously consider anyone if they include explicit material in the video," Pornhub Vice President Corey Price said via email.
trinque: maybe also in part, they're trying to protect the ISIS/Turkey connection
trinque: general attempt to discourage on-the-ground journalism?
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assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:20:02; asciilifeform: one reason why they push fingerprints and similar crap is the 'prima facie' concept
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 00:13:31; shinohai: pete_dushenski: Nope, worse. My parents became Evangelical Christians. "Jews for Jesus" if you will.
phf: seems like they pulled a lot of dylan tracks
ag3nt_zer0: pete_dushenski hmmm working on my end...
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: kinda what I meant about "command structure" in teh logs
trinque: pete_dushenski: I'm yielding to your point here, I think.
trinque: that they have the thought of serving someone or something is some kind of first step
trinque: pete_dushenski: it continues to yield fruit, this tree
pete_dushenski: trinque: was something in particular inspiring this reflection ?
phf: came up when i started trash talking american christians
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 19:47:36; trinque: these gun-toting christians hate socialism, so I like them just fine
trinque: relatedly I am ending my current tour in the pac NW for a time, headed back to TX
trinque: and it's causing me to reflect on what I left behind in TX
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That one's going to take a bit.
pete_dushenski: watch, mircea_popescu will try chengdu for a year then move back to romania.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: got me on dylan now, good job
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: oh man... slow train... I bow
ag3nt_zer0: I have been making it a point to go see dylan every time he comes by the gay area for the last 6-7 years... probably seen him 5-6 times in that stretch
ag3nt_zer0: one time I saw him during his monio league baseball park tour with willie nelson and john mellancamp
ag3nt_zer0: and I just thought that the fact that he had shed his fanbase skin so many times resulted in a nice blend of people - christians, hippies, old school folkies, some rockers haha whatever
ag3nt_zer0: left behnd the detritus and have people there who just are happy he shares his trip with them - honestly
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya
☟︎ ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah it was... mellancamp brought it that night... it was his 14 year old sons bday or something and he brought him out to play bass or something it was a good time
ag3nt_zer0: not a huge mellancamp fan but he works hard up there and he does have some great tunes
phf: trinque: i agree with you though, i'm judging by central pa, northern maryland, which is not necessarily the cities, but still within the sprawl.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:47:49; asciilifeform: is anyone here able to locate M. Greenberger, 'Method in randomness,' Comm. ACM 8 (1965) ?
trinque: phf: could amount to nothing, but that part's not much up to them
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funkenstein_: Re: Method in Randomness <-- well I'd never heard of "deepdyve", where do they find gnomes to work on this kind of bullshit? They gave me 5 minutes to "view" the article (in crippled form) in exchange for a fake email.
phf: “Whoa! It's like Spotify but for academic articles.”
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trinque: ag3nt_zer0: lived there for a time, yep. grew up in the Houston burbs
phf: i don't know understand why everything needs to be made so idiotic. i mean, what is this, making your 50 years of scientific research hip? you know, for the kids.
mircea_popescu: <phf> i don't know understand why everything needs to be made so idiotic. << heh.
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assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:54:44; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya
phf: in other words over ascii's dead body
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 23:18:36; fluffypony: cazalla: it's not even me, Africans don't want Bitcoin because they're quite happy dealing in cash and not paying tax
trinque: did seem like it doesn't follow..
wilbns: also, in kenya, for example bitcoin doesn't provide much utility beyond what m-pesa already does. the current area companies like bitpesa are trying to get traction are in remittances (where one party doesn't have m-pesa because they're outside the country), or by pitching it as a speculative financial instrument or novelty.
funkenstein_: wilbns, uh.. just curious what do you think the point of public coin is?
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, isn't that it doesn't provide utility, but not to *them*
mats: jesus the hp 16c goes for 200+
☟︎ wilbns: funkenstein_: hey, sorry, i don't understand your question.
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funkenstein_: i mean, if m-pesa already does everything we need, what's the point of using bitcoin?
funkenstein_ expects maths to work rather similarly on any continent
mats: at 200 apiece i think I'll pass for nao
mats: if only there was another cs calculator on the market
mats: pencil it in for s.nsa project #88
mats: I dun see any good android imitations of this concept
mats: guess I'll pencil it in at the bottom of my programming projects
phf: i'm actually confused by that site
mats: >t its heart, this calculator is an emulator of the HP-15C (running on an ARM processor, although a different family from what HP is using in the ARM-based current-production 12C and the 15C Limited Edition), and therefore has largely the same feature set and user interface as a real 15C.
wilbns: funkenstein_: maybe m-pesa could utilize the tech for more efficient settlement of transactions. if someone just wants to send money to grandma or someone else in the next town, though, it's a bit of a hassle to suggest bitcoin. unless one party already has it, then they can sent it to bitpesa and they'll deliver it to the m-pesa number. if neither party has
wilbns: it, you're talking about a minimum of 2-3 days to acquire the BTC, pass KYC/AML, etc. probably could have spent 20-30 minutes to just go to an m-pesa teller.
☟︎ funkenstein_: wilbns, the point is - m-pesa guys can issue as many as they want. it's private and counterfeitable
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wilbns: funkenstein_: yes, but most people on the street don't care as long as their money is worth the same today as it is yesterday and they can still go buy a relative equivalent of whatever with it tomorrow.
funkenstein_: wilbns, if so, this applies as well in switzerland
trinque: the point here isn't to package bitcoin into some easily inserted suppository for everyone
trinque: to the extent that they comprehend what it does, great, use it
mats: lol 18th ID challenge coin for scale
phf: "guys, guys, there's this guy in dc who's going to be real upset"
mats: I think I'll get one, never considered how useful it would be until now
mats: I have heard this, didn't believe it
mats: I've thrown away every coin I ever got.
mats: only memorabilia I have left are my sapper skill books, MREs, a single uniform set, and a buncha kia bracelets
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mats: asciilifeform: memorial bracelet, yes
mats: they're different items
mats: but yes that is what tags are for
mats: some RC dudes would slip one into a boot and wear the other around their necks
phf: "Adjusting your approach trajectory in the event of catastrophic landing processor failure. p. 23 HP-16c manual"
mats: one in the boot in case ied rendered corpse visually unidentifiable l0l
trinque: I guess that doesn't help much with a good IED
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mats: not in the slightest
mats: good ied doesn't kill, anyway, just maims a few dudes
wilbns: mats, you're military?
mats: more expensive to enemy, and now you need four dudes to drag one asshole and all his gear at 2km/hr while in contact
☟︎ wilbns: was in new york a while back and at the airport, there were maybe a couple dozen guys, they all look like they just graduated high school. all w/ manila folders in hand, waiting, heading off to boot camp - all making small talk w/ one another. looked like they didn't know each other very well. was imaging how there lives were going to change and wondering if
wilbns: it would be overall positive or negative
mats: spoiler: peacetime mil blows
trinque: mats: the concussion is pretty bad too right?
trinque: want to say I watched a docu about that
trinque: lemme rephrase "pretty bad", the concussion is a big part of the internal damage
mats: yes, overpressure fucks you up
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phf: asciilifeform: you know if midnight commander has something like su or sudo vfs?
☟︎☟︎ cazalla: soz thestringpuller, looks to be that BingoBoingo got to it first
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mircea_popescu: "While I agree that not everyone is bad, I'll suggest that the number of bad people involved in bitcoin so far exceeds the number of bad people in other organizations that the whole system isn't working. I'm starting to consider whether people were wrong about the "decentralization" issue. Is it possible that decentralization was tried, and it is being proven right now that it simply doesn't work because the system bec
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 04:10:21; wilbns: it, you're talking about a minimum of 2-3 days to acquire the BTC, pass KYC/AML, etc. probably could have spent 20-30 minutes to just go to an m-pesa teller.
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assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 04:47:52; mats: more expensive to enemy, and now you need four dudes to drag one asshole and all his gear at 2km/hr while in contact
mircea_popescu: the way modern warfare works, you don't want planes and regular soldiers. you want missiles and partisans. and you don't aim to kill the enemy, you aim to maim as many as possible and encourage them to keep coming. the situation where US population is up 200mn and US war invalid population is up 50mn is a greater win for isis than the situation where the us population is 0.
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assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 05:48:38; phf: asciilifeform: you know if midnight commander has something like su or sudo vfs?
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mircea_popescu: to everyone's surprise, usg is the main driver of all things the usg "fights against".
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assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 05:48:38; phf: asciilifeform: you know if midnight commander has something like su or sudo vfs?
shinohai: I thought mc switched you to a terminal and asked for pass when you input sudo commands.
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phf: su/sudo vfs would be handy for copying files between users without having to adjust permissions or escalate to superuser. one pane is user foo, other pane is user bar. doesn't matter if foo's pane is in 700 folder, and if you were to copy, file will be created as belonging to user bar, with his umask applied
funkenstein_: ;;google that's what happens when you call the cops
funkenstein_: nice article thanks jurov. "I'll take Regulatory Capture for 400 millies, Alex"
mircea_popescu: hearn being around makes me not even miss armandi or taaki all that much.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin gotta have a total lolcow at all times lest it collapses into itself.
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jurov: some ppl are allergic to it
ben_vulpes: so java has an asym library, does that shell out to gpg as well?
ben_vulpes: and who's making you keep python and perl on your systems?
ascii_field: because the entire ecosystem of it is a kind of zoo for idiots and their idiocies
trinque: I personally know I'll never have a clear picture of what the VM and the machine underneath are doing *while* writing a program
ben_vulpes: "fits in head" is a realistic goal with python, perl and cpp?
trinque: ben_vulpes: nah but they're smaller
trinque: cpp maybe not so much smaller
trinque: ben_vulpes: and yes this whole thing runs into pragmatism vs pure science, no?
trinque: ben_vulpes: python's probably riddled with holes everywhere somebody wrote a shoddy python c module
funkenstein_: I always considered java to be like "C++ for dummies"
trinque: I'd expect Java is also fucked along that border, among other places
ascii_field: i will neither write nor read java. not even for money.
ascii_field: (strictly for weaponized exploitation - might)
trinque: the "native method interface" thing
ben_vulpes wonders what it must be like to feel so strongly about programming languages
ascii_field: actually it is less about languages and more about the people who used them.
ben_vulpes: "i'll cut stainless, but you keep that piece of shit al off my machines"
☟︎ ascii_field: the language, in this case, is not just a language but an ecosystem with unavoidable exposure to the work of many previous users
trinque: yeah I do get really scared when say leiningen pulls down five hundred java modules of questionable origin, when I've worked in Clojure in the past
trinque: dependency hell like when you install gnome, and get dildoctl shoved up your ass
trinque: there are probably many packages you could all but guarantee are in the vast majority of java projects
ascii_field: the real question is why should i even consider the matter. because i can't really see why i should not also consider flossing my teeth with barbed wire, if considering java.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 17:36:10; ben_vulpes: "i'll cut stainless, but you keep that piece of shit al off my machines"
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: let's get to the matter, if you would like to rewrite 'v' in sed and awk, go ahead. i was not equal to the task.
ascii_field: they are cleaner, more well-defined items than python, yes.
ben_vulpes: the 'dsl' so produced by their use is not in any sense legible, however.
trinque: bash olympics, which somehow reminds me of the BME olympics
ben_vulpes: two 'clean', 'well-defined' items whose use produces code that is illegible.
trinque: python's fine; guy needs some tests is all
trinque: and then you could use the tests to rewrite later
trinque: ben_vulpes: I recommended testing!
ascii_field: trinque: no, ben_vulpes has a point, python sux
ascii_field: trinque: but i was unable to find a suitable replacement for this item.
trinque: I am painfully aware of teh suck of python
trinque: two options I see are ball o' bash or CL
ascii_field: perl was the only serious candidate, and if ben_vulpes would like to attempt a cleaner version (!) in it, i'm all ears.
funkenstein_ admits java was mother tongue, still finds himself translating in head from other languages
ascii_field: as for cl, a unix tool with multi-second startup times is not usable here.
trinque: was thinking re: the DSL comment
trinque: I think python is a fair choice given the circumstances
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:06:38; asciilifeform: to paraphrase mircea_popescu article, if christ saves in java - let me go straight to hell.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any changes i'd make would produce higher linecounts.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: this is fine if you're adding a useful knob
ben_vulpes is not convinced that brevity is the be all and end all.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: there are two kinds of brevity
ascii_field: where one measures nonwhitespace characters strictly
trinque: nothing particularly pisses me off about v.py
trinque: looks like it's formatted like a guy who likes CL might
ascii_field: speaking of, one useful knob would be sexpr output.
trinque: I don't use classes in python if I can avoid it, nor many other parts of the language
ascii_field: ^ this one is actually necessary and if no one else does it, i will. but can't promise ~when~.
trinque: I could hack on that this weekend
trinque: and maybe do some general tidying
trinque: or if ben_vulpes wants to, sounds fine too
ascii_field: ideally, each 'bubble' would be clickable and contain links to download patch and all signatures
ascii_field: (this would be hosted on a wwwtronic thing similar to turdatron, presumably)
ascii_field: are using older SDK 2.x Cavium Cryptographic
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ascii_field: 'We observed one rather peculiar factorization of a RSA modulus, involving factor 23. What happened was that the public key in the X.509 certificate was corrupted in some (there was a bit flip, according to the server operator), and equation (1) accidentally revealed the factor 23. The corrupted modulus had other small factors, too, and a large composite factor with an unknown factorization.'
ascii_field: ^ guess who and what isn't cited in this paper, l0l
ascii_field: 'Some servers occasionally or consistently produce ServerKeyExchange messages which contain RSA signatures which are zero. Encoding of the number zero varied. In some cases, zero or one bytes were transmitted. Sometimes the length of the signature matched the size of the RSA modulus. The latter suggests that the server implementation may have omitted the copy of the computed signature. This could happen if RSA-CRT
ascii_field: hardening detects a faulty signature, does not write the result to a caller-provided buffer, returns an error.'
thestringpuller: Bitcoin is good for storing wealth in a deflationary, censorship resistant way. It is not very good for mainstream retail usage (yet).
thestringpuller: Yes, Bitcoin will go up in value just by people holding it. That's how commodities work. I don't see anyone "using" gold.
thestringpuller: I could tell as soon as I read the nonsense you post about Blockstream
mats: bitcoin is not deflationary, will never be useful for 'mainstream retail usage', and does not intrinsically 'go up in value just by people holding it'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48936 @ 0.00072438 = 35.4483 BTC [-]
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mats: its all toy store hardware, man
ascii_field: mats: not that it can't fly a frag. sop in donbass.
mats: my boss was a master instructor for the raven, 'military-grade UAS'
mats: piece of shit would fall out of the sky a quarter to third of the time it was flown
ascii_field: mats: what was nominally 'military' about it, other than the cost ?
mats: what qualifies as 'military'? i don't believe the army operates any uas with arms
ascii_field: one example of 'military' feature would be, say, guidance via laser (or something else the opponent can't jam with $5 of components)
mats: interesting features, i guess, might include repeaters, a gimbaled payload (expensive camera and sensors)
ascii_field: or perhaps a little cup in which to stuff a frag with the spoon out
ascii_field: and a solenoid to squeeze it back out on command
mats: as far as i know the army only operates drones to surveill and recon
mats: afaik usn/usaf programs are the ones that kill people via rc
assbot: A Hard Look at Hard Power: Assessing the Defense Capabilities of Key U.S. Allies and Security Partners ... (
http://bit.ly/1Xrlpjp )
mats: doesnt look good for nato
mats: european nato has a pathetic number of aircraft
mats: from the foreword: 'In short, at a time when the United States needs the most help, the prospects for receiving it, with the exception of a few allies, look more worrisome than at any point since perhaps the immediate aftermath of World War II.' - COL (Ret.) Lovelace
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22578 @ 0.00072741 = 16.4235 BTC [+]
assbot: Another Neurodegenerative Disease Linked To Prion Mechanism | September 7, 2015 Issue - Vol. 93 Issue 35 | Chemical & Engineering News ... (
http://bit.ly/1JHUrNb )
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mats: ;;isup log.b-a.link
mats: ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
shinohai: \o/ now if i only had btc to trade with the mermaids!
mircea_popescu: hey, anyone wanna do a sepa paymenbt for me ? coupla k's.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83789 @ 0.00072334 = 60.6079 BTC [-] {2}
mats: coinbr doesn't look up from over here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10061 @ 0.00072266 = 7.2707 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: same here mats coinbr not loading
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo i must point out qntra is in fact satisfying its job as a news site. I get news thgere.
shinohai: heh I get "under maintenance" page on my direct ip, and endless load from vpn
trinque: endless load over here re: coinbr
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> great, but why? << this is a complex point and would require some more indepth discussion to do it justice. in summary to my eyes it is an early attempt by the microsoft citatel to parlay compatibility problems of early linux into a "here, we've strangled it" usg solution. it failed to work irl, and the failure of java is torvalds' chief merit in this world. using it today is not unlike using ripple. you'r
☟︎ mircea_popescu: e a ridiculously quaint figure stuck on the long sunk battleships of the past.
mircea_popescu: sorta like being an uk citizen. seriously, in 2015 ? why not be a hittite while you're doing anachronisms.
mircea_popescu: sure, one can pretend that "well, it's a country." if one wants to. but for foreigners, no, it isn't. it was an empire and now it's nothing. not even a hole.
mircea_popescu: t we use ecc ? or pki ? they're "perfectly functional solutions" that "other people" have "come to expect" blablabla.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and nobody can make me. << gotta love republican thought!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44284 @ 0.00072755 = 32.2188 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: apparently. is a paste by kako above, i have my own copy too
mircea_popescu: "El periodista Daniel Colina informó por medio de su cuenta en la red social Twitter informó que el Banco de Venezuela ubicada en La Castellana fue robado el pasado 10 de agosto en horas de la noche, los maleantes solo se llevaron las impresoras y televisores del lugar."
mircea_popescu: (robbed bank in venezuela, thieves took printers and tvs)
mircea_popescu: them rays are strong today, better do less global warming for bitcoin mining!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75400 @ 0.00072266 = 54.4886 BTC [-]
trinque: my car was smashed-n-grabbed two nights ago, stole that 4u I picked up and some other computers, guitars, etc
☟︎ ascii_modem: they took their sweet time, installing that splice...
mircea_popescu: this is how a bank looks in the united states of america now. and in the future.
mircea_popescu: "Sin impresora para trámites agencia del Banco de Venezuela La Castellana tras robo ocurrido hace 8 días."
mircea_popescu: takes 8+ days to replace stolen printers in venezuela, takes 8+ minutes to do a splicing in us.net, etc.
mircea_popescu: eulora was also unreachable across teh atlantic apparently.
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> the language is the lexicon << this is beyond naive and absolutely never the case.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i never ever spoke any russian, with anyone, pre b-a, because no, russian is not "the vocabulary", but principally the set of historical russians. between tolstoy and hruschev not so much to pick.
ascii_modem: sorta what i tried to explain to ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: and i suspect pretty strongly that the interest in romanian such as it is is because ~I~ speak it, here as well as in my harem and anywhere else genuine interest exists for this particular item in the "crappy language pack".
mircea_popescu: in short, without "acest articol are avantajul aliteralitatii alaturi", romanian doesn't even aliterate. at all.
shinohai: trinque: if you are like me, stealing a man's guitar is akin to stealing his woman
ascii_modem: 'ru i will learn only because... it was spoke by lenin'
trinque: shinohai: the acoustic had sentimental value, dad bought it for me.
trinque: but whatever, enjoy crackheads
trinque: wtf are they going to do with a storage server anyway
shinohai: Porque la guitarra me toqua, no al reves
ascii_modem: usually they steal first, ask questions later
mircea_popescu: "hey, what's that big ipad thing ?" "i dunno man, some older version. worth some scratch fo sho"
trinque: yeah, clearly had a truck/van, smashed back window, grabbed all
trinque: hope the 4u fell on someone, fucker was heavy
trinque: on the plus side, less to unpack later; I wasn't going to bring furniture anyway, so these were mostly toys stolen
shinohai: trinque: got serial #'s on that ?
trinque: ahaha, well if they plug anything in... I have my ways
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem if they break into his car and thereby lose a hand in the explosion he's going to jail.
trinque: nothing explosive unfortunately
trinque: mircea_popescu: sad state of affairs
mircea_popescu: one of the most fucktarded things the brits gifted the world.
trinque: reasonable's you smash a man's car and that's the end of you
trinque: place in town fixed same day in two hours; I was impressed
mircea_popescu: (but in the original context it made a lot of sense. you really don't want to lose an arm because you innocently wandered into what you thought was a shop. because the patrimonial dispute thereby ensuing can be fixed, but the arm can not be reattached.)
mircea_popescu: owing to a population 1/20 as large, kept in check by a deeply patriarchical society.
trinque: bum wanders into my lawn; he doesn't necessarily deserve to be shot
trinque: stealing half my posessions seems it oughta come with a price though
mircea_popescu: yes, it does, but this should not corrupt our understanding of history, politics, or legal matters.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem if women had thermite up their ass which blew up every time someone grabbed it, ~I~ wouldn't have any arms.
☟︎ trinque: eh can't just come out blasting; say the guy's looking for his dumb toddler that wandered onto your porch
mircea_popescu: (this event actually happened. splendid ass, /me grabs it, woman turns unamused and asks me what i'm doing, i retort that i'm innocently grabbing your ass, she says don't do that and i say alright.)
mircea_popescu: and yes, much like the "don't thermite" thing, this worked fine in a world 1/50 as small and very deeply patriarchical.
mircea_popescu: but in the us of today this is not feasible, for the same reason email spam is a thing
mircea_popescu: poor girl'd have holes through her butt, finger shaped, and collapse out of sheer exhaust of turning and saying "doin't do that" fifty million times.
ascii_modem: note the difference b/w thermiting a stolen box remotely, and minefield
mircea_popescu: as a kid, /me fambly had a neighbour. one day mom's cooking and i'm computing in other room. door was unlocked (most of my life i lived in a world where locks were not really useful). neighbour blasts in, goes past mom, into room, has a wrench, approaches heating element decidedly
ascii_modem: in usa - both jail. but there is a difference.
mircea_popescu: then he turns to me and goes "what the fuck have you done to it ?!?!"
trinque: shinohai: yeah I have pictures of the relevant stickers with all that, but don't give a siht
mircea_popescu: and im lioke what and he's like it's fixed and then is like "oooooh"
mircea_popescu: trinque coupla hundred are certainly cheaper than shooting some derp.
shinohai: I'm quite sad for you trinque because a similar situation occurred to me. Losing an instrument to someone that loves music as I do is akin to losing a limb.
trinque: eh I don't cry over that shit
trinque: just commenting on the scum about
mircea_popescu: shinohai i think unlike most music lovers, he knows he stinks.
trinque: yeah I'm total shit on the guitar
trinque: just chords and having fun, is all it was for
mircea_popescu: nothing about womenz and panties in there whatsoever. i'm sure.
shinohai: Music is the ambrosia of the soul and all that. When one is drunk, one rarely cares if it is fine wine or swag.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ^ guess who and what isn't cited in this paper, l0l << omfg that is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 22:09:22; mircea_popescu: ascii_modem if women had thermite up their ass which blew up every time someone grabbed it, ~I~ wouldn't have any arms.
mircea_popescu: <mats> bitcoin is not deflationary, will never be useful for 'mainstream retail usage', and does not intrinsically 'go up in value just by people holding it' << the first point is true in the objective. it is however "relatively deflationary" in the sense that to the rocket, all things seem to be sinking ; 2 is an obscure point of the future but seems likely correct ; 3. is outright false. willingness to hold === value
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 14:16:12; assbot: Logged on 10-12-2014 00:51:50; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the friability of this thing, whereby i did something, i didn't observe the expected result, and don't know what to do is driving me fucking bonkers.
trinque: I'm still waiting on being able to switch out of "digest" mode
mircea_popescu: to doubleckeck here : email to the address, had a plaintext as 1st attachment and detached sig as 2nd attachment/
trinque: mircea_popescu: could be; not sure
xinxiwang: did the authentication process change?
mircea_popescu: trinque hm it might have been the armored detached sig o.O
mircea_popescu: ok, for the record : sent it with no body, and with a clearsigned body ; the latter with .asc armored signature and with .sig binary signature. still nothing there.
trinque: huh, maybe the ML's just busted
mircea_popescu: the "with clearsigned body and .sig signature" version is exact replica of the single email i successfully sent to date, back in the days of the V patch.
trinque: as far as I recall that's right
mircea_popescu: i estimate currently this sort of thing is 99% why we don't get more work submitted.
trinque: maybe becomes a function of the web page viewer for V ?
trinque: or do you mean replacing mailman with another mail thing that works better
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. all i know atm is this does not in fact work as is
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