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asciilifeform: bahaha complete with anthem and tov. c in front covers!
asciilifeform: meanwhile, for incorrigible rotakus strictly, http://manualul.info ( found, naturally, while digging for the orig kindergarten src of http://trilema.com/2018/printul ) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: stand by to slow down ☟︎
lobbes: getting there..
lobbes: well, sounds good to me.
ben_vulpes: lobbes: shared shell alone, i haven't examined the implications of this scheme for rockchips yet
lobbes: and would this be for both shared hosting customers and rockchip (and anything else)?
ben_vulpes: this incentivizes the hunt for long term customers
ben_vulpes: and yes, of the affiliate's recruited set, not of all customers.
ben_vulpes: lobbes: for so long as a customer is paying pizarro is the intention
lobbes: ben_vulpes: Here's my initial q's: 1) Is that in perpetuity? 2) I assume this is a percentage of the revenue of the set of the customers the sales person recruits and not of the entire set of customers?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816417 << looks good to me ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816307 << this is actually a prime thing to have. didja ever publish asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816404 << believe or not, i dun actually have a en<->de .txt . ( the arch-bestseller , v. k. mueller's en<->ru , is errywhere, e.g. http://www.alleng.ru/d/engl/engl150.htm ) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: aand in today's aphorisms, "Licking the power socket will never kill the licking of power sockets, even though it may kill all lickers of power sockets."
ben_vulpes: lobbes, BingoBoingo: thoughts re ^?
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 21:41 phf: some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816385 << that wasn't even unicode, that was her attempt to register a binary dump of her pubkey. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 19:23 asciilifeform: 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816371 << good thing they came up with all this on their own hehe. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:55 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816354 << yes ; outside i guess of context from the old that may help inform the reader as to the new. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: usefully, too, if anyoen wants to keep these they're autosorted by run
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:38 esthlos: but under current behaivor, program won't clean up tempdir when it eggogs
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816338 << possibly do a composite, "time program was called"+gensym. that'll resolve the conflict. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 11:40 spyked: the __attribute__((gnu_inline)) attr is of course very stupid through its lack of portability, but as per https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Inline.html , it seems that the wrecking to this compiling/linking behaviour of inline was done pretty early on (C90).
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816312 << that's a pretty informative find / equiv proof actually. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 10:12 ave1: does anyone have a ru to eng or de translation dictionary as a text file?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816307 << this is actually a prime thing to have. didja ever publish asciilifeform ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 00:01 asciilifeform: by ~that~ measure it was dead 3+y ago , when it turned to openly infecting the stored tarballs
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816296 << yeah. wasn't that some prime lulz (that meanwhile didn't happen / it didn't count, w/e). ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i await a transaction to clear through deedbot, then i shall settle your invoices
ben_vulpes: that is what i am trying to say
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, but you can also talk to ads already posted.
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent 22 hours and 13 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> is there a problem with the invoice ? ( aside from the fact that i forgot the 36 usd fee , in it ) ? how come i'm still waiting ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it doesn't make sense to put delicate items acquired with much suffering like BingoBoingo's cedula immediately into the statists hopper (localbitcoins demands "an ID" to post ads), when one can pick from the sale offers and operate on the side of the transaction where id is not asked for ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's two important advantages of reasoned decisionmaking. first and foremost it gathers your people around you, this is what loyalty is made of, at its best. secondly and more importantly it permits history, which is to say humanity.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:40 mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 05:12 mircea_popescu: document, that's the right move. "here's an amazon page link, https://www.amazon.com/Libre-Computer-ROC-RK3328-CC-Renegade-Ethernet/dp/B078RMQYHS and here's some other provider https://www.loverpi.com/products/libre-computer-board-roc-rk3328-cc on which basis I'm guessing we should get the boards at around 4k total ; here's why i think the chassis costs so much ; here's why alf's delivery run need not include only 1k in airfa
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:09 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-17#357608 << since discarded notion of posting an ad on localbitcoins; but there are plenty of offers to pick from in the ~2.5-3% markup range.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814796 << in context of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814152 it bears pointing out incidentally that you still haven't explained ~why~. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 21:41 phf: some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 18:57 mircea_popescu: unicode is the solution!
phf: some of the unicode indiancandy was spitting cl-unicode doesn't have names for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767678 ☝︎☟︎☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: transliteration code failing, give me a sec
asciilifeform: ^ bot sees it. but try in www browser
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:29 asciilifeform: in other oldies, seiko's 'DPU414' thermal printer, can be had for <fiddybux, and not only prints 80cols x infinity (continuous tape) but knows how to eat rs232 and... print hexdump (up to 19200 baud)
asciilifeform rereads, finds that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767833 link is dead ?! ☝︎
asciilifeform: another funny bit is that i described, in the l0gz, the simple scheme for ~identical gadget, on several occasions.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, the existence of FUCKGOATS raises the bar
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: classiest one to date, afaik
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah << LOL, FBI-otron in the wild!
asciilifeform: 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah ☟︎
asciilifeform: from comments, mar. 28, 2018 'I purchased one and am very happy with it. While I too have the dice, it is so time consuming, and this is so much quicker and simple. I have had no issues with the unit and plan on purchasing another.'
asciilifeform: no photos of device interior / shields, at least where i could immediately find. preprocessor seems to ( surprised? ) whiten.
asciilifeform: somewhat to asciilifeform's surprise, the schematic is on the ( lulzy in 9000 ways ) linked www ; and even seems to use FG-like johnson noise source
spyked: I'm pretty sure that happens with functions qualified as static. but the inline qualifier might cause the compiler to eliminate those definitions.
spyked: ah. my intuition was that static inline might increase the size by leaving unused definitions in every .o file generated from the respective .c that imported the header.
phf: spyked: you kind of have a choice between #define equivalent inline, which is going to be actual inline and increase the binary size, or else i don't think it really matters. supposedly the annotation makes the calls "faster", but the notion of faster is very vague. i suspect it's essentially an equivalent of "register" keyword: things are maybe sometimes reshuffled to make things maybe sometimes faster
spyked: but this is easy to verify with readelf -s | grep inlined_func
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816308 << is there any need for that alternative? from my research static inline is one of the few behavioral commonalities between c99 and pre-c99. it also supposedly works across different compilers, etc.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816325 <-- it's not needed, at least not in the case of vtools. it may have been worth it if it had reduced binary size, but from my experiment it makes no difference. gcc seems to remove the definitions of static-inlined functions (after inlining them), but I don't really know if it does that in general. ☝︎
phf: diana_coman: ty
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely? ☝︎☟︎
phf: ccl has a fancy system, based on hacked up gcc, for generating ffi mappings (called interfaces), which you then can use with (use-interface-dir :foo) (#_foobar ...)
esthlos: gotta run for a bit, thanks for the info phf
esthlos: is that a reader macro for system calls?
phf: clozure doesn't need to, #_mkdtemp
esthlos: may just have to get dirty with the ffi
phf: sbcl has both own ffi, and there's also SB-UNIX:SB-MKSTEMP
phf: cffi is compatibility layer to native ffis (a rather dodgy one too)
esthlos: phf, I assume by ffi you mean a call to run-program, not a use of cffi?
phf: true, i'd still just go for an ffi to mkstemp. you're dealing with a unix substrate, might as well use unix tooling. otherwise you have to juggle file-probe, create-directory, but restart if there's exception, etc.
esthlos: but under current behaivor, program won't clean up tempdir when it eggogs ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 19:32 asciilifeform: funnily enuff, if working rng were standard on pc, 128bits from it would give unique-gensym ( the supposed problem , according to the gcc nitwits, with mktemp , is collision ) without O(N) searching ( as in mkstemp) with probability ~1
asciilifeform: ( if you need a heavy-duty gensym, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790082 works and is easy to implement ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's a temp dir, should live for, what, a few seconds
asciilifeform: why does it need to work cross-invocations tho
esthlos: phf: was about to mention that
phf: asciilifeform: that's not going to work cross-invocations though. gensym is incremental across the instance, so same invocations should produce roughly same gensym numbers
esthlos: anyone have a good idea for generating unique identifiers for v's gpg keyring name? I just spent a painful hour debugging because CL's #'get-universal-time is only precise to the second
phf: i'm alive by the way, will start catching up on the mother of logs
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 11:35 spyked: in other oddities: http://archive.is/9haFQ <-- potential alternative to http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_fixes_static_tohex#L8 (also see: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786600 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790868 and others). ftr, it didn't do much for me. or, to be more precise:
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816308 << is there any need for that alternative? from my research static inline is one of the few behavioral commonalities between c99 and pre-c99. it also supposedly works across different compilers, etc. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: trinque: yeah, I think it's gonna rain here today too.
trinque: doing just fine. watching the rain come down.
mod6: Mornin' TMSR~
spyked: it might also in a way be interesting to report how I stumbled upon this: I tried to recompile gnupg-1.4.10 on my broken debian system and got the same "multiple definition" linking errors as in vtools' case (though I *did* use gcc<5). so I dug and found the usual kochs "fixing" things to compile gnupg on newer gccs. ☟︎
spyked: (or that might be C99, actually)
spyked: the __attribute__((gnu_inline)) attr is of course very stupid through its lack of portability, but as per https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Inline.html , it seems that the wrecking to this compiling/linking behaviour of inline was done pretty early on (C90). ☟︎
spyked: 1. pressed latest vtools; 2. changed all "static inline" to "extern inline __attribute__((gnu_inline))" in http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_fixes_static_tohex#L5 ; 3. compiled; 4. diffed the symbols in the generated vdiff against the unmodified version => no changes, xnmalloc et al. are not included in the final binary.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 10:22 spyked: phf's ld might add an "static" to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in the same file.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 13:52 spyked: anyway, comment was that I managed to compile and run vdiff with small mods; error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BiBTI/?raw=true and fix patch: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9mOiz/?raw=true (tested this with the generated vdiff); I can try to link this reply later in a comment to test.
spyked: in other oddities: http://archive.is/9haFQ <-- potential alternative to http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_fixes_static_tohex#L8 (also see: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786600 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790868 and others). ftr, it didn't do much for me. or, to be more precise: ☝︎☝︎☟︎
ave1: does anyone have a ru to eng or de translation dictionary as a text file? ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/printul/ << Trilema - Printul.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tanks are nearing bottom.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will have to pass this time, sadly