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a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806515 << recall the black genius kid who made a clock out of "household materials" such as... a clock ?
mircea_popescu: ie, in the way "tech geniuses" of the empire genius their genius : stolen item with serials shaved off, or as it's known nowadays, "the black clock". http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806616 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, oh, i recall. except weren't days of ms-dos, were days of dos and ms was barking at the edges to be let in.
asciilifeform: ( nor was 'dynamic linking' a thing at all )
mircea_popescu: 'oh look, the news." "mmmkay. so... did anything good/useful/cool happen today ?" "i dunno, let's check #trilema"
asciilifeform: ( recall good ol' msdos dayz, back when 'reproducible bin for same src' was something you got from ANY and EVERY compiler, and wtf, how to even conceive of having this problem )
mircea_popescu: its such a pleasure, reading these logs.
asciilifeform: or at least will be, once we find and kill with fire whatever turd it is in gcc that shits current unix time into the bin ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: ave1's whole orchestra is just that, a reproducible musltronic gnat
trinque: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/ExperimentalToolchain << this has apparently evaporated.
trinque: and down the line I'd be thrilled to get reproducible build patches for it.
asciilifeform: really oughta be the default, aha
trinque: while on the subj of gcc, it would be very nice to get ave1's version in as the default gcc on cuntoo.
asciilifeform does not presently have a ppc64 to try on
ave1: the script can build a ppc64 little endian gcc cross compiler (I tried this a while ago, I'll have to do that again with the current state of the script)
asciilifeform: ( i dun expect to see a full adult gnat ~on~ msdos; but to cross-compile a la nintendo, would satisfy this one )
asciilifeform: supposedly this even existed at one time, based ob djgpp, but asciilifeform was never able to turn up a working copy.
asciilifeform: then of course there is the 'holy grail', a cross-gnat for msdos.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell trinque didja ever succeed in getting a ppc64 gnat ?
asciilifeform: ^ bare iron mips, specifically, rather than linux-
asciilifeform is also interested in a mips gnat, but will prolly end up doing this himself as a mod of ave1's script, later
ave1: After release of this I'll try
ave1: Yes, but the machine the qemu runs on is also almost out
ave1: I build that one on qemu (for further development I ordered an A64 from olimex, but the one I want is still out of stock) ☟︎
ave1: On aarch64 it creates the last 2, for some reason (might be not enough memory on my aarch64) I could not get it to produce a aarch64->amd64 compiler
ave1: The script can also run on aarch64 with that last one
asciilifeform: it demanded a musltronic linux to run on
ave1: 1 normal that runs on aarch64 and creates aarch64
ave1: On AMD64 it will create 4 compilers; 1 bogus cross for amd64->amd64, 1 normal that runs on amd64 and creates amd64
asciilifeform: ave1: plz say specifically , what this builder will output ( what types of gnats? listed by 'runs on X' and 'builds Y-type executables' )
ave1: Yes, so in this version I changed the config of gcc so that it only and always produces static
asciilifeform: ( nobody, presently, has a multronic gentoo for arm, so the dynamic-musl thing was 100% junk )
ave1: the new one does not need that anymore (always static)
ave1: the previous release does work, but needs -static flag at all times
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman is waiting for the amd64 one.
ave1: K, build takes a while on my aarch64,
asciilifeform: ave1: that's specifically the item i'm interested in.
ave1: I'll also post the resulting ada aarch64 compiler
asciilifeform itches to supply folx with ready-to-eat gnat-on-rockchip, both on pizarro cluster and in the flensed c101pa box
asciilifeform: ave1: lemme know when you got the real deal ready for test.
asciilifeform: ave1: you wouldn't be the first to tar up wrong dir for a release, lol
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 15:14 asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt
lobbesbot: ave1: Sent 3 hours and 12 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt
ave1: asciilifeform, I'm sorry for this. I ran the build multiple times so I'm not sure how the patch found it's way into the last release. Fix is on it's way. (fix is to remove the patch, gmp-4.3.2-2.musl.diff from the patches directory)
mircea_popescu: spyked, first, you give injuns plastic beads, "just like" their bone beads. THEN you install "american bone bead factory". logix.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 02:04 asciilifeform: '2017-02-21: The patch is surreptitiously snuck into the Monero codebase in pull request #1744. It is kept secret to prevent it being used to attack other CryptoNote coins.'
asciilifeform: ( the others being the z-whatevers, 2 of'em and i can't recall how they differed, the one with 'z-snark' and other other, with the magical rng seed)
asciilifeform: at any rate, in so far as i can tell 'monero' is simply 1 of 3 or 4 tor-style honeypots for the dimwitted 'death ray plot' candidates in the shitcoin space.
asciilifeform: 'redditus loads up on doge without any such explanations; so why not these folk also' i suspect was it.
asciilifeform: he seemed puzzled by the very idea of an audience that demands an explanation of mechanism.
mircea_popescu: that being the alternative available explanation, not that i credit it. "oh, it's too hard to explain to these people wtf, i'd rather just doodle".
asciilifeform: see linked thread, d00d tapped out at 'go read paper', when asciilifeform:'yes i read paper, now say how ring sig doesn't slowly leak' and fluffypony:'[various squid ink]'
mircea_popescu: by now this "won't do what mp says do" is such a bell...
a111: Logged on 2014-10-02 21:28 mircea_popescu: davidlatapie i have nfi idea what monero is because in spite of being invited fluffypony doesn't want to give the group a presentation. the comment is just as to the improbable nature of the name. why mew and what's someone not in on the jokes to make of it.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-09 14:10 mircea_popescu: hey fluffypony do you plan to eventually sell the monero idea here once it reaches some sort of maturity or do you just plan to wait indefinitely for b-a to figure it out ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 15:24 asciilifeform: troo, more or less all usg scamola has a designated 'author' who, however, even if wired to the mains cannot give an arithmetically consistent statement of how it works
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819770 << in this case, inexplicably enough refused to, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-09#823434 http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-02#855842 ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, no, dude came to #b-a to see what's being said re monero / what can be used by monero / whatever. finger on pulse. the meet-up was http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/
mircea_popescu: you still don't understand how stealing the having been stolen from works, huh.
spyked: mircea_popescu, may be. but then I have no idea why mediapro filmed the last (bestest etc., according to them) movie in the series in 2008. musta been an attempt at revival.
mircea_popescu: ("the net result of the group's activity")
mircea_popescu: the iq this defined ~just abou sums~, meaning if a group of 101 peeps contains 100 ppl of iq 10 and one guy of -1k iq, the group net result will be 0.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : if results are negative, iq is a negative exponential the result- resource disparity ; if results are positive, iq is a positive logarithmic of same disparity.
mircea_popescu: actually myeah, that's not corect.
asciilifeform: what's the intended model.
asciilifeform: i find it a puzzler, what the cartoon these folx are watching inside their heads, even ~is~. (e.g. it ain't as if, say, lenin, 'accomplished' by 'normal people visiting')
mircea_popescu: but yes, it is strictyly incorrect to measure IQ as a natural number. IQ is in R, and is defined as IQ = results ^ -1/(resources-results).
mircea_popescu: AND THEN DID NOT ACCOMPLISH GOAL.
mircea_popescu: most people don't amount to much in this life ; but to manage to amount to ~ a negative value ~ it really fucking takes some negative IQ.
mircea_popescu: being retarded has, over being THIS fucking stupid, the serious advantage of 50 or so IQ points.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 15:19 asciilifeform: in other lulz, via BingoBoingo's links, 'The Daily Stormer is being sued by Jewish terrorists. In order to survive, we need shekels. Send BTC or XMR. This site will be shut down if we don’t win this.'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, have not forgot. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819761 ; but somehow FORGOT the part where he comes here, explains he's been stupid and why and wherefore. much like ers is STILL to face the dysfunctional idiocy of his collaboration. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, holy shit, these morons. "oh we just want to get along". WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE.
mircea_popescu: spyked, not ignoring ; replacing. THAT is why diehard, otherwise who the fuck cares.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422814 << the , imho, revealing thread with subj. ☝︎
a111: 2016-03-24 <fluffypony> otherwise you learn nothing and you're forever forced to wallow in your own ignorance
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 17:24 asciilifeform: e.g. film 'diehard' ended up translated by one 'genius' to title 'умри тяжело'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 09:22 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819346 <-- funnily enough, one of the first (at least AFAIK) pointedly american pieces seen on tv in romania was promoted by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728889 in its first year of existence, "die hard" w/bruce willis. they still air it every year in december. this completely ignoring the fact that romanians had their very own diehard-mcclane since the '70s, i.e. comisarul moldovan.
asciilifeform: ( last time i bothered to look, it was also a sort of final refuge of botnet artists, being one of the few major shitcoins that has not yet been raped by chinese asic makers )
asciilifeform: troo, more or less all usg scamola has a designated 'author' who, however, even if wired to the mains cannot give an arithmetically consistent statement of how it works ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc he perpetrated it, not simply 'defected to'
asciilifeform: ah lol that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: XMR is the "ring signature" thing fluffypony defected to
asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is the weev crackpottery, that somehow oh-we-must-use-dns etc )
asciilifeform: in other lulz, via BingoBoingo's links, 'The Daily Stormer is being sued by Jewish terrorists. In order to survive, we need shekels. Send BTC or XMR. This site will be shut down if we don’t win this.' ☟︎
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt ☟︎
spyked: but I will rebase the rss bot on top of this afterwards and I'll ping you right before I bring rss in-chan. ☟︎
spyked: trinque, no, the bot doesn't do anything yet. but there'll be likely some join/part spam. and I'm also wondering whether it should try to self-voice when it gets a -v
trinque: spyked: should I turn off deedbot RSS?
spyked: ^ apologies in advance for any noise this little bugger may make.
mod6: mornin' TMSR~
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/outage-after-english-leader-sentenced-to-13-months-and-british-court-orders-media-blackout-cowardly-mainstream-publications-including-breitbart-withdrew-articles/ << Qntra - Outage After English Leader Sentenced To 13 Months And British Court Orders Media Blackout Cowardly Mainstream Publications Including Breitbart Withdrew Articles
diana_coman: good work though, I'll give it a go
diana_coman: esthlos, "is expected to read and understood before use" -> to read and understand the code? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 18:27 mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit the matter of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728843 : adrian sirbu, possibly the only romanian to have done anything since 1989 (he created the deliberate usg tool Pro Tv in 1995, a media company whose wikipedia page no longer mentions him -- very much a successful equivalent of the failed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048), has recently been accused of... you'll guess this not ? TERRORISM!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 00:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819346 <-- funnily enough, one of the first (at least AFAIK) pointedly american pieces seen on tv in romania was promoted by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728889 in its first year of existence, "die hard" w/bruce willis. they still air it every year in december. this completely ignoring the fact that romanians had their very own diehard-mcclane since the '70s, i.e. comisarul moldovan. ☝︎☝︎☟︎