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mircea_popescu: so 2.0.22 can't generate a key and 2.0.30 can't compile.
asciilifeform: presently testing on a box that had the deps crapolade
asciilifeform: hey there was a reason i did not start with gpg2.
mircea_popescu: holy shit .a is in /src/
asciilifeform: when you built gpg-error, it shat out a binary, gpg-error-config
mircea_popescu: what's it looking for, something like libgpg-error.a ?
asciilifeform: fastest way to get all the deps is to simply grab a sacrificial (e.g., 'african') box and let it install gpg2
BingoBoingo: So is S.NSA going to have a line item expense for alf.dope this month?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski everything a person needs to know about dating can be found on Trilema
mircea_popescu: aite, cooking a key.
asciilifeform: do i need to keep going, draw a picture ?
asciilifeform: it is quicker to throw in the extra 'hexdump' line by hand, than to get the patch ducks in a row, imho.
asciilifeform: folks yer gonna have to take this road cone in, a few mm at a time.
asciilifeform is cooking up a little experiment.
mircea_popescu: at it means to be a blogger[7] . These essays and this writing style are tempting to people outside the subculture at hand because of their engaging personal tone and idiosyncratic, insider's view. But after a while, you begin to notice that all the essays are an elaborate set of mirrors set up to reflect different facets of the author, in a big distributed act of participatory narcissism. "
mircea_popescu: I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickly begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about wh ☟︎
mircea_popescu: " In Paul Graham's world, as soon as oil paint was invented, painting techniques made a discontinuous jump from the fifteenth to the twentienth century, fortuitously allowing Renaissance painters to paint a lot like Paul Graham. And the difficult problems the new medium supposedly helped painters solve just happened to resemble the painting problems that confront an enthusiastic but not particularly talented art student. I ho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upon reflection, there may exist also a mathematical relationship which allows BOTH mods to be broken.
mircea_popescu: it was all published in "i can't believe it's not a journal"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no that was a mythical "some other guy" in "the past"
mod6: downloaded most RSA keys from a keyserver and tried to factor 1.9
mircea_popescu: fuckign shithead, there he sits, going to himself "oh look, these kids are closing in on me, let me say publicly that it's "probably a software bug / cosmic ray".
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin.org has reason to suspect that the binaries for the upcoming Bitcoin Core release will likely be targeted by state sponsored attackers. As a website, Bitcoin.org does not have the necessary technical resources to guarantee that we can defend ourselves ...blahblah... The hashes of Bitcoin Core binaries are cryptographically signed with this key. We strongly recommend that you download that key, which should have a fingerprint
asciilifeform: granted this is not a 'real' forgery because folks with a copy of genuine key are untouchable by it.
mod6: we've talked about that a bunch. shit, we even looked at trying to fix it at one time iirc.
asciilifeform: and so all you need to forge a signature is a sha1 collision.
asciilifeform: (why a pool? why whiten at all? ask koch.)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is a point that should be reviewed. is it the case that EACH 600 bytes lose 20, or is it the case that ALL bytes past the 580th are gone ?
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/17/the-road-to-the-future-is-paved-with-gravel/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The road to the future is paved with gravel.
shinohai: I could totally make a bidness out of this. Branding!
mircea_popescu: aite a sec
asciilifeform: there is a missing http:// in the phuctor link.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hold off on publication, i'ma revise a bit.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 18:31 mircea_popescu pictures woman flying around with tip of boeing in her snatch, "YES! YES! HARDER!" for a visual.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 21:30 phf: i believe, that there's a man, somewhere in the bowels of meta-nsa, who can see the entire puzzle picture
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523509 << afaik trinque is making a wallet :) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 19:41 Framedragger: asciilifeform: grep is amazingly fast because it does it in a smart way (you prolly know). i can give some number but i expect the q is rhetorical (i.e.: it's fast) :)
asciilifeform: http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6dbfe89903d0c8191cf50ecf1abb3c8458b427a;hp=e23eec8c9a602eee0a09851a54db0f5d611f125c
phf: i believe, that there's a man, somewhere in the bowels of meta-nsa, who can see the entire puzzle picture ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: #trilema, will rape your mind into a new shape.
asciilifeform: this would be a handy (optional) item to have in trb.
asciilifeform: ( probably there is a 'last seen' addr-to-blockidx hash table, so we get something like O(n log n) lookup. )
Framedragger: asciilifeform: grep is amazingly fast because it does it in a smart way (you prolly know). i can give some number but i expect the q is rhetorical (i.e.: it's fast) :) ☟︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: how long does it take to grep a 100G file on your system ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523424 << at least a minute ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: expect to see moar butthurt scampering a la boeck et al.
asciilifeform: if a new one is discovered tomorrow - i will consider it, also.
asciilifeform: betcha it will pop a few moar.
asciilifeform: not to be confused with 'longest modulus for which we have a factor'
asciilifeform: not to raid on the parade, but must point out, phuctor is not a collection of peculiarly-small keyz...
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523211 << seeing phuctor breaking things caused me to get off my ass and take the couple minutes to generate a bigger key ☝︎
mircea_popescu: “The stuff they have there is super-duper interesting, but it is by far not the most interesting stuff in the tool set,” he said. “If you had the rest of it, you’d be leading off with that, because you’d be commanding a much higher rate.” << yeah... and then... SELL ADVERTISING.
mircea_popescu: The auction “is a joke,” Weaver said. “It’s designed to distract. It’s total nonsense.” He said that “bitcoin is so traceable that a Doctor Evil scheme of laundering $1 million, let alone $500 million, is frankly lunacy.”
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno that 'send a non-refundable bid, and oh also price is 1 MIL BTC' counts as 'for sale', more of elaborate gag
asciilifeform: ( the thing that is not clear to me is what part of this leak prevents even a single parcel from being intercepted, with old ~or~ new cisco rubbish in it, and patched to admit the cock, supposing any of these devices even ~need~ such treatment, given that the master keys are escrowed already )
asciilifeform: there were a few.
mircea_popescu: a) there is no dispute from you that this was actually their shit ; b) apparently so much is available some of actually their shit can be freely distributed, in gb sized portions.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 19:59 mircea_popescu: but it's certainly quite deep. the vermin doesn't merely aim to a comfortable existence, but more importantly to a memory-less situation.
mircea_popescu: so now back to the issue : we have some semblance of defense against what is in fact a universal problem ; they don't, and are in denial. as per the cannonical expression of this situation, http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/#selection-147.267-153.105
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:21 mircea_popescu: not that it's a novel, or worthy idea.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference.
mircea_popescu: this point is valid, the only problem is that it mostly discusses THE STATE. yes, every fiat entity has the incentive to eventually pivot ; and they all do. the derps are currently insulated from this by the momentary happenstance that the thieves are in a compact, called "the state", and everyone left outside is well... not someone you'll hear about. because exactly of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523303 "entertainment ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523293 << by the way, i don't think the implication of that discussion can't possibly be understated. for instance, it is a common etatist criticism of "what they call bitcoin" so really, tmsr, that "everyone running a business has an incentive to eventually run so eventually will" sort of thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: actually, this guy died sovereign, over a rather enlarged moldavia (took mostly from poles, lithuanians etc). he left testamentarily that "listen to your old shepherd, deal with the turks ; unlike the russians, the turks keep their word"
mircea_popescu: next year, my lord, the turks are coming ? "a lot ?" well... suleiman himself, 1mn infantry, more horse than previously known to exist in the world, etc
mircea_popescu: so joke is, vornic comes to stephen, my lord, the turks are coming. "a lot ?" well... there's the vidin pasha with maybe 100k jannisary + etc
phf: no, but i suspect it's a holly relic now
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:00 phf: right, it's sort of a more sophisticated version of alice bot
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523127 << wasn't a star wars reference ; it was a concordat of worms reference. you know, with the guelphs ghibelines et all ☝︎
asciilifeform: experimented successfully with storing a double-digit million sum of euros in cash at what the insurer describes as a manageable cost. A few other German banks, including Commerzbank, the country's second-biggest lender, have also considered taking the step. But when a Swiss pension fund attempted to withdraw a large sum of money from its bank in order to store it in a vault, the bank refused to provide the cash, according to local m
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:31 mircea_popescu: i perceive the following problem : in my (rightful) bashing of idiocies (allinged around "colored coins", "dao" etc, that jazz) i distinctly hear the crushed hopes of people who look at those as a refuge from something else, specifically. i suspect it's hwqat you call "anarchists"
phf: fractional snr, and only because there's a few paragraphs about how they used clisp at yahoo stores)
mircea_popescu: not that it's a novel, or worthy idea. ☟︎
Framedragger: phf: ha, nice. well, fair. (it made me warm inside to recall that i *never* took paul graham for much; anyone who reads only a bit by him on stuff that they know something about will realize this; e.g. http://idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm (this is the "website obesity" guy))
mircea_popescu: gets lulziest when they encounter people who do not want to exchange their life for a fetish, and then explode into "putin doesn't understand how the world works!!1"
mircea_popescu: ironically, people in the contemporary, anglo sense of that term WANT to be these empty identities. no idea why or how; but imo much more serious a threat to anarchism than any kind of authority.
mircea_popescu: more like, a good chunk of what this stable of uselessness tries to argue its usefulness from, is their utter failure to do anything about things like phuctor, misrepresented.
asciilifeform: a good chunk of what the 'genius splitters' are kept around for is to be blown on annoyances like phuctor.
phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference. ☟︎☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: uh that was a question, more like
mircea_popescu: and this is just the first step. nothing forces your identities to keep playing ; you can retire them at any point you wish, and now you have a stable of "never wrong over n binary questions" respectables.
mircea_popescu: what we ALSO know for a fact is that the count of people actually active on facebook last year (~10mn) is deeply dwarfed by the number of facebook accounts (>1bn).
mircea_popescu: for an observer, these being unlinked, there's "genius" identity 10111010001 which answered correctly to that many binary questions in a row.
mircea_popescu: consider the proper model for this : let there be an unknown endless list of binary questions. you create an endless list of identities, which you publish, 2^(n+1)-1 for the nth question. unknown to anyone but you, they are linked in a tree (ie, you know in advance identity 10111010101 will answer "yes" to q1 no to q2 yes to q 3-5 etc).
Framedragger: phf: i'm curious, what was it that made you to originally regard tptacek highly? was it his words/discussions (and then later you decided that it's the only stuff that the man has actually produced - a fair point i guess, if you dismiss the crypto challenges, for example)?
mircea_popescu: understgand that the a/b split-scam scheme there discussed can do this with ~identities~ too. just create a tree of them.
mircea_popescu: on one hand there's the mfas, a number game, based on brute force. like say http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-25#1509965 (showaround). on the othe rhand there's "authority blogs", like say gawker. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is a "business model", and in the shit the us is these days, it's actually a "premium" business model : establish "authority" of the purely wordy sort, then pivot.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/ ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: #trilema, will rape your mind into a new shape. ☟︎
Framedragger: i need a longer conversation-thread-stack in my mind.
phf: right, it's sort of a more sophisticated version of alice bot ☟︎
phf: a foundation.
phf: mircea_popescu speaks from experience, of things that he have practiced. even mpoe-pr's rants were using internal mpoe practices as a model for argument. it's not clear that ptacek has any kind of similar standing, because we don't know what he did. he argues for best practices, which he could've as easily picked up from reading others. compare to, say, djb, who, when speaks about security, uses his extensive qmail (etc.) experience as
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: agree re no intrinsic value, incidentally. this does not nullify there being possible to distinguish valuable writing from shit writing, *within a framework of meaning* that we can all agree on.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: one *could* maintain that there was no interesting finding for someone who trusts gpg import policy. and yes, a fool is he who trusts gpg; but a charitable interpretation of such an opinion is possible
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reply isn't "this serves tmsr's purposes", but moreover, the reply is that he's in charge of his own household, and if he is making a mistake it'll hurt... him. and if the other made a mistake, evidently it'll hurt... the other.
mircea_popescu: "Il est à remarquer que l'once d'argent ne vaut pas cent de nos sous valeur intrinsèque, comme le dit l'Histoire de la Chine; car il n'y a point de valeur intrinsèque numéraire; mais à prendre le marc de notre argent à 50 de nos livres de compte, cette somme revient à 1250 millions de notre monnaie en 1740" <<< he knows. in 1700!
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like mpoe-pr by now.
Framedragger: phf: bashing and critique of shitty crypto projects, calling out their authors (see discussions between tptacek and kaepora or however the other dood's nick is spelled) - they're a valuable public service