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mod6: The Bitcoin Foundation will make a payment for June, but I need
to determine what
the price point was for
the month of June. I'm going
to dig
through
the logs
to see what I can find, but if anyone can help me out in
this capacity please let me know.
Thank you.
mod6: ben_vulpes jurov BingoBoingo : I do not believe
The Bitcoin Foundation was ever invoiced for colocation services for
The Foundation's one machine at Pizarro for
the month of June. And
thusly, no amount was shown on
the Foundation's June 2018 statement.
mod6: trinque: Question for ya regarding how jurov can make a payment for
The Foundation's hosting fees at Pizarro: Is
there a way
that I can get an outside BTC address
to give him
that would go directly
to my deedbot wallet? I see
that I can do `!!deposit amount`, which might work, but it could be days before a payment is made. Is
this a problem?
Thoughts?
☟︎ jurov: sure. i couldn't reproduce
this
jurov: oh it calls decrypt
to compute
the checksum of original unescaped
text, prolly something left from
the ancient spec
jurov: will have
to check, maybe --verify calls it
too
jurov: well,
the server is older
that
the fatwa aginst gpg2
jurov: also
there was expired version of your key, but it was expired since 2016, so
that shouldn't be
the culprit
mircea_popescu: well, so in
that sense "will". we agree on
things such as "how
things should be" or "this is cool" or "this sucks" w/e in
the precise manner.
mircea_popescu: but you do realise
that "your wife" is not your wife in
the sense your weight is your weight, yes ? you just want her
to be -- hopefully both of you.
esthlos: not
to
trivialize, but are you a schopenhauer fan
then? or a more broad idealist?
mircea_popescu: rather
that we manage
to will a coherent approximation of reality into existence. because it's what we're doing, yes, and we need all
these complex
tools
to keep it from becoming either self contradictory, disjointed or else derealized.
esthlos: that we can assemble a semi-coherent reality is only
topped by
the existence of a semi-coherent reality
mircea_popescu: esthlos
the problem is
that it's neither dense nor sparse. and i dunno how we can proceed. moreover, i suspect goedel says we can not proceed.
esthlos: yes. didn't you just link an uncle al about
this?
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER
they do exactly
the same in
this field of representation. MUCH MORE so, exponentially rather
than proportionally when compared
to
the dragonfly, people sort and select
through utterly staggering piles of alternative constructs.
mircea_popescu: the
thing with
that is, people obviously don't fly about
the room doing 100 body lengths a second while catching bugs and jumping right out of inept frog's mouth all cool as shit.
esthlos: no,
though I love watching
those bastards zip around and hunt
mircea_popescu: not dense, but very large.
the problem with it is
that it's not dense.
esthlos: but surely, a dense subset of
these sets are uninteresting?
there has
to be some mechanism
to reduce
things
to some polynomial blowup. or are
things really just beyond our grasp?
mircea_popescu: esthlos you ever read
the discussion of
the dragonfly's brain ?
mircea_popescu: omfg only a hundred
times explicitly ? wink wink drudge drudge.
mircea_popescu: protestants can uprise all
they want for all
the good it'll do
them.
mircea_popescu: esthlos
there's no other approach available besides interpretation.
there's no some way
to "read
the
true reading" in
the manner you can ingurgitate an apple.
mircea_popescu: (and by "select group" above i meant "group of
threads/"ideal objects sorted in
trees" more properly speaking. not groups of people.
this sadly isn't at all evident from context, but i caught it on re-read. half
the
time
though, it IS "evident" on
the basis of cousins six removed)
esthlos: hmm, but
to be clear, are you saying
that what any person is saying on any ~single~ posting is open
to interpretation? because
this sounds like hermeneutical approach which lead
to
the protestant uprising and other bla bla
mircea_popescu: hard for
the not-exactly-ungifted peole in
the very question, first of all. because well...
mircea_popescu: which is why it's so HARD
to ~correctly~ identify actual cases of utter breakage in
the sense of "alf is an assumptive idiot" or "mp is millitantly ignorant" or w/e.
esthlos: you know, I was in fiat job
today, and I realized how badly I needed a global namespace for
threads. no wonder no one get anything done
mircea_popescu: the problem of indirection layers is directly an equivalent of
this, because "what is
this conversation REALLY about" permits in principle an open ended reskinning of every conversation. which is somethingt
that happens all
the fucking
time, because we CAN discuss chess in
terms of girl-on-girl on-cam action, and half
the
time we also do.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 19:32 mircea_popescu: fortunately, mathematics is simple. V is
the set of all sets. by convention,
the first index, V0, is
the empty set.
mircea_popescu: most [important] conversations are ongoing for many years.
they basically happen in
this select group of complex interplay.
esthlos: but not all
the
threads. conversations
that go on for years and years?
this
thing is
the fucking
talmud
esthlos: keeping
the summaries allowe me
to
track
the
threads of implications. i have nfi how people manage otherwise.
though my rote memory sux
mircea_popescu: most (private) attempts
to do what you're doing i know of died
the death of
the look-behead.
mircea_popescu: and when followed, render
the logs exponentially larger, because wait a fucking minute, is
THAT implied
the other implication of item from
three days ago ?
esthlos: I see. yeah, following
the references, reading
the
trilema articles, etc. are half
the work of reading
the logs. and when skipped, render
the logs opaque
mircea_popescu: well, alf's oft peculiar assumption set isn't what i had in mind when discussing information density. but instead,
two aspects : on one hand,
that
the amount of learned refrences is staggering even for academic discourse (the academitards cheat, by selecting a very narrow set of possible reference points and agreeing on it in advance) ; and
then
the more one knows,
the more
things unfold, exactly in
the manner i end up watchi
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 01:07 asciilifeform: my only disagreement was re
the notion
that
this is necessarily
The Right
Thing for erry proggy, as some sort of counter
to 'rmsism'
mircea_popescu: apparently i don't even need
to run it for
this judgmental box
to have an oppinion on my skillz.
mircea_popescu mashed kbd apparently when pressing yes,
test.sh got saved as
test.sht, system couldn't magically find script anymoar, 5 minute haphazard luls ensued.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 22:36 mircea_popescu: "Somewhat fortunately Balsamiq was
too successful for
that, and Giacomo was forced
to hire more and more people. Balsamiq is now being built by 25 members, who service around 0.5M customers and manage 10,000 new
transactions a month. All of it generating about $7M a year." <<
this is actually a model-run business. had nfi mp-style even exists in fiat world, but lo and behold.
took 10 years
to get
to 7mn a year, sustainably.
mod6: ok asciilifeform, get some sleep. I'm about
to do
the same. we can pick it up
tomorrow.
mod6: *nod* good
to know.
mod6: Can't hurt
to have
that hot-spare. I quite like
the idea.
mod6: last point here: if UY3 goes into production, I
think we'll just buy another machine as insurance.
mod6: heheh,
this is a fair point here.
mircea_popescu is not even going
to ask what
this overselling does
to his insurance for
the other machine :D
mod6: asciilifeform: correct.
technically we should have figured out
the quarterly or yearly contract at
the end of june.
mod6: oh. alright,
the price
that I invoiced Mr. Popescu for correct
tho right (what we came up with on
the ~12th)
ben_vulpes: mod6: discount for paying for a year in advance,
there are also
two fuckgoats in
that machine
mircea_popescu: we can always
talk
tomorrow about what you wanna do with Dulap!
mircea_popescu: oh, you mean
talk
tomorrow. lol. sure, dun worry about it.
mod6: I'm gonna be around a bit, but we can always
talk about what you wanna do with Dulap
tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: that's why it'll work fine. seems
to me it creates a symbol when asked, but only checks once !!v'd. since i've not done
that yet, it didn't matter you hadn't yet !!v'd atthye
time i !!pay-i'd.
mircea_popescu: if i understand
the mechanics correctly it'll work fine.
mod6: anyway, sorry about
that, it
took me a few minutes
to get
the invoice processed. not sure if it let you pay
that invoice before I did
the whole !!v
thing.
mircea_popescu: "So
this week's post is late." has such a ring of familiarity about it.
mircea_popescu: lol. aaanyways, i've no problem with
the
three cents, go ahead an' invoice.
mod6: ben_vulpes: any comment on
this when you get a chance? ^
mod6: mircea_popescu: um, I actually don't know what was factored in for
the whole year. my guess is
that one may have had a discount for paying a whole year in advance. where
this number has a bit of a higher margin for month-to-month.
mod6: So
the 0.03542985 includes
the price of
the physical box, and a charge for rack space. we broke
this down into a daily cost,
then multiplied it by 19, as we figured
this out on
the 12th.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 16:01 mircea_popescu: so
trinque could it be possible
to not be possible
to pay
the same invoice
twice cuz
that's
the point of invoices in
the first place,
they should die once paid
mod6: he lead me
through all of
the calculations. let me dig some of it up for you.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall, did you ever include
the rationale, past "ben and i worked out" ?
mod6: For S.MG's UY3
then?
mircea_popescu: mod6 go ahead an' invoice. i recall now seeing something like
this b4 but no invoice either.
☟︎ mod6: If you decide
to go-production with
this machine after July, we'll
then add in
the new drives (when
they arrive) and figure out a new price at
that point.
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I worked out a prorated amount for UY3 for
the month of July. It comes
to a
total of 19 days, which will amount
to: 0.03542985
☟︎ mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform : Dulap's quarterly service was finished at
the end of june. So we need
to figure out if you want
to pay for dulap's colocation either quarterly, or yearly. But it does need
to include July.
mod6: I am hoping
to get invoices for July out in
the 48 hours.
mod6: This will be
the price used when determining invoicing
this month. I am working with / have been working with ben
to get all of
these settled.
mod6: All, one
thing
that I didn't know
that I even had
to do, was publish
the price at which
the
this months auction for pizarro
took place. It all
transpired on July 10th, and
the price
that was used was $6800.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: aaand in
today's ancientry, "Uite-asa se scurge
timpul, si Romania progreseaza, incet-incet, ca melasa, pe lungul drum al prefacerii intru devenire, a construirii unei societati a viitorului, in care omul nou sa
traiasca vesnic si sa nu faca nimic cu
toata vesnicia aia."
lobbes: Lol. "While parsing
the input measurement string,
there isn't a check on
the server address (-c). In
this manner, any string can be placed as
the server address and will be executed via system. Knowing
this, an attacker can execute arbitrary commands in
the position of
the server address."
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 16:33 mircea_popescu: but yes, if you've got a competent spy you're not going
to make her a competent kbd monkey -- for approximately
the same reason people don't usually eat
their children. acceptable substitutes for flesh can usually be found.