asciilifeform: iirc ben actually had own shop, in the north, but then moved south for moarmoolah

asciilifeform: ( i dun think the particulars were ever detailed , but evidently salt mine that dun leave much juice left when whistle blows in evening )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923618 << if i recall, they're sitting in same common grave / salt mine in tx somewhere, atm ☝︎

asciilifeform: typically nails it.

asciilifeform: i usually end up searching for what the folx who were 'at home' had said in $thread .

asciilifeform has same problem, from back when 'butugychag' etc

asciilifeform: ( it was only then that even devised the algo, during thread w/ mp_en_viaje re 'trbi' )

asciilifeform: tho, tbf, most of it wrote in '17

asciilifeform: ( the O(1) tx store . )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: frustratingly, i have the 'trbfs'. but grrrr gnat bugola

asciilifeform: (e.g. orphanage snip, 'seeds' snip)

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'heavy' was pretty much all '15 aha

asciilifeform: castro's payment for the rockets.

asciilifeform: ( untutored folx would try to smoke'em like cig, an' choke )

asciilifeform: apparently in su they were sold at one time errywhere, but sat on shelves, ~no one wanted, no one knew how to smoke'em properly

asciilifeform: brought it to usa. later found, 'romeo & juliet' cuban, circa 1970s

asciilifeform: i found one as a boy , had nfi what it was

asciilifeform: at one time i made regular visits to tobacconist, even tho do not myself cigar. to buy : boxes.

asciilifeform: ( complete with 'danish butt', laugh if you will. i no longer eat'em, but gotta keep the screws, 74xxx, rejected FG components, ..., ..., somewhere! )

asciilifeform: cant think why else just yet

asciilifeform: currently suspect sumthing to do with verticality of asciilifeform's display

asciilifeform: was thinking same q this morning

asciilifeform: there we go.

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2018/titless/#selection-25.0-29.442 << aha!!

asciilifeform: this kinda thing aint a point of pride for asciilifeform , would rather sit in well-tidied workbench. but in fuckholeistan where real estate costs like on space station -- even commercial labs look same.

asciilifeform: 1 sends for daughter to come and undress an' show its wares etc

asciilifeform: was scene where 2 d00dz sitting by a table, and it is full of mobos, rifle optics, cpus, unspeakable wirings, etc

asciilifeform: can't seem to find in O(1) tho

asciilifeform: there's a scene in 1 of mp_en_viaje's fictions where almost literally depicts asciilifeform's torture room

asciilifeform: guest: 'is that.. bear trap?!' a:'what's the problem'

asciilifeform: 'nazi submarine' right off doorstep.

asciilifeform: me neither

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923635 << funnily enuff , asciilifeform's parents have 1 of these, lol ☝︎

asciilifeform: see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632664 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( and then! then! last nail in coffin -- rk3328 goes outta print )

asciilifeform: cuz can't see how else to avoid 'so sad, asciilifeform , you thought could gnat errywhere? how about it dunwork on arm, bahaha' ☝︎

asciilifeform: fast-fwd to nao, when asciilifeform goes into what formerly 'obvious nuttery', i.e. 'let's genesis a whole machine arch' ☝︎

asciilifeform: then 'ada renaissance' and suddenly 'hey gnat dunwork' and so on

asciilifeform: at the time i dun think there was even thought yet of 'must confiscate gcc' etc

asciilifeform: which , i fear , gave folx unrealistic expectation

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923625 << was a sort of cheat tho, the genesis did not actually include bdb etc ~textually~ . so maintained illusion of 'trb is this 300kB of shitoshi' ☝︎

asciilifeform: !#s rabbit hat

asciilifeform: requires to have to-whom, neh

asciilifeform: on bright side, 'lizard' set also thinning, e.g. last week -- perot

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall finding that comba died right when was writing comba's algo.

asciilifeform: ( lotsa things that oughta be in it, tho, aint -- e.g. ave1's gnat, my kernels, etc. cuz nuffin to patch against )

asciilifeform: was 19 items last saw

asciilifeform: q is whether also can have vtronic 'cartilage' to connect the stones in the pile.

asciilifeform: already have pile

asciilifeform: ( for folx innocent of classical gentooism -- the main function of 'portage' is to walk dependency chain ~between proggies~ and build'em in correct order. )

asciilifeform: if accept '100MB genesis' , then most of 'portage' is actually redundant, and as i understand whole thing can be replaced with a slightly mechanized vtron

asciilifeform: if 'portage' cannot be cut into vtronicizable parts, it'll have to be thrown, tertium non datur

asciilifeform: aaha

asciilifeform: ( for n00bz -- trb was 'tank w/out treads' for, iirc, 1st 6+ months, until this )

asciilifeform: at one pt i thought same re asciilifeform vs. trb . ( then mp_en_viaje unwedged me , he had bdb notes , '14 )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923610 << i admit even considered possibility that the orig gentoo is heavy enuff and fulla stones and trinque broke teeth trying to eat. but cannot say definitively . ☝︎

asciilifeform sees trinque's pov, many times was wedged on a problem where 'i have 95% of solution but for the remaining 5 -- ugliest turd ever seen' . but must agree with mp_en_viaje -- you can't get orig text from a hash, and can't vpatch if you aint got orig

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923538 << trinque if you have an alternative algo that avoids giga-genesis, i'd really like to hear about it asap, before we start genesising 100MB of kernelade complete with autoconfisms etc ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( imho 'makesnap' oughta also be considered, but admittedly may be of 'niche' interest )

asciilifeform: revisiting upstack : hey mod6 , did 'who-gave' ever make it into flagship vtree ? ( i dun see it there ... ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923563 << not sure i'd even include self in this number, of yet. ported kernel to 'machine' that never before existed ( the 'cpu' is mips1, but the 'periphs' naturally correspond to no physically existing irons, of yet.. ) and this was entirely new puzzler to asciilifeform ; but not yet ported trinque's userland, and of yet nfi where to begin there ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( can't speak for all, but -- lacking 'aggression' , node 'zoolag' routinely was behind 100+ blox as often as not )

asciilifeform: certainly has NOT 'stood in place since 2015' tho. i would not want to use the trb of '15 in preference to the current. ☟︎

asciilifeform: thing is, trb is imho mature in re 'knobs' , the time nao is to ~cut~, slice an' dice an' replace with adaistic prosthetics

asciilifeform: and prolly i missed a few by other folx (e.g. mod6 had at least 1 in recent 2y)

asciilifeform: 'who-gave'. sept. '18 ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'makesnap'. oct. 2018 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's 'wires' experiment. feb. '17 ☝︎

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's blackhole profilings. feb. '17 ; ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923496 << mno. let's walk a few. e.g. : 'aggression'. dec. 2017. ben_vulpes 'aggression'. dec. '17. ; ☝︎☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: trinque: sure. but you can't have vpatch w/out a genesis that actually puts the original on the machine, or what am i missing

asciilifeform: in fact, recall how trb 'chicken' genesis was a hand-cranked recipe, cuz had to delete binary gif turds etc and vtron of the time could not autodigest such deletion

asciilifeform: e.g alternative of asciilifeform's 'here is my hash of mp's gpg-1.4.10' thing is fundamentally sinful , cuz not in fact vtronically contiguous w/ original

asciilifeform: i also haven't any better idea atm.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje evidently also had nfi how, and so prescribed 'genesis the GB of shite'

asciilifeform: trinque: the root of problem is how to do the GB-of-shit to kB-of-food conversion w/out genesising the shit

asciilifeform: atm trinque afaik is the only 1 who went deep enuff into the portage guts to know the detail

asciilifeform: trinque: imho worth to write article re subj

asciilifeform: trinque: how wouldja do it ?

asciilifeform: ditto gcc.

asciilifeform: trinque: it's 'gordian knot' that has to be cut ~somehow~. consider, as of yet asciilifeform cannot vtronicize that kernel patch, cuz... no kernel genesis. ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923485 << entirely troo, and worth to carve in stone somewhere.. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923482 << pretty obv. from the answer, heh ☝︎

asciilifeform bbl:meats

asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje or other serious brain tells me why it's a stupid idea, i'ma listen. but atm i suspect it is necessary and inescapable.

asciilifeform: would like to offer heathens a) fully isolated linuxen b) at competitive cost. so far erryone in meat wot to whom showed piz rate sheet, replied something in vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-16#1922858 . ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and i refuse to use heathen virtualizers, where 9000 remote 0day are found erry month.

asciilifeform: possibly with granular billing ('femtobitcoin per cpu cycle' even, or the like) or not, but in principle possible. ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: the idea is, i want to emplace turnkey 'tx clears and you have root' 'virtual' service at piz. with cuntoo.

asciilifeform: the unsolved puzzlers, for that experiment, are, in order of pain : 1) buildroot w/ musl 2) 100% gcc-4.7 process 3) nic emulation . ☝︎

asciilifeform: btw trinque i have a patched kernel, at some pt (sept?) when free hand, will be porting cuntoo userland. ☝︎

asciilifeform: of whatever origin.

asciilifeform: even 100MB is pushing it. i dunno if i, personally, will live long enuff to read 100MB of cpp. ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: imho GB-sized vpatch makes a mockery of very concept. ☟︎

asciilifeform would've bought older unit, but those come with the mold pre-installed! sorta like buying used toothbrush, imho.

asciilifeform: fortunately all needed to patch this, is ordinary drill.

asciilifeform: in other lulzy orc tech: that lolconditioner apparently has even moar interesting misfeature : no drain. yes. exhaust fan has paddle that is supposed to throw water from condensate pan through the hot-end grille. (i.e. sounds at all times like running faucet. and , reportedly, guaranteed to grow black mold and eventually leak into room... ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: i suppose all death is expected.

asciilifeform: dunno, behaved sanely for 12+ years. ☟︎