asciilifeform: 'It's also interesting to note that some miners are signalling to orphan themselves. Antpool, BTC.com, and BTC.top are all signalling for BIP 91 with bit 4, but are not signalling for segwit on bit 1. This means that once BIP 91 activates, if they don't change their version number (and it seems that this is a manual process as most mining pools set the version number manually), they will be orphaning their own blocks under the BIP 91

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gavinlandia, https://archive.is/KOhTm >> 'Resolution is to either guarantee there are non-bit1 signaling miners before enforcing (kind of incompatible with the definition of 80% activation), or manually guarantee the the graph of enforcing miners is connected.' << d00d realizes that the softshitfork thing won't work without cartel... proceeds to demand one ☟︎

asciilifeform: !!v 352B78C89FA88878A8EEE992E6C76F66D9EFAB1FF1D0035B53FEB73B163C0B23

asciilifeform: !!rate ave1 3 gnatronicist

asciilifeform: !!rated ave1

asciilifeform: ave1: consider writing down the recipe for this

asciilifeform: of what is the diff ?

asciilifeform: it was on my conveyor and promised to be a very gnarly chore

asciilifeform: ^ interesting, i'd like to see this

asciilifeform: the confiscation of gnat from the idiots is inevitable. may as well begin with this.

asciilifeform: ave1: gonna have to patch , then, and cure the retardation.

asciilifeform: ave1: by emerging at some point

asciilifeform: anyway if your gnat does this, it is rubbish, throw it out, i will not be v-releasing an ffa where everything is not inlined, each non-inlined routine is a ~10% speed ding.

asciilifeform: ave1: can't be the reason, i have it working on 4.9

asciilifeform: 'national razor' lol

asciilifeform: it isn't like you gotta clean it with own tongue

asciilifeform: ( am i the only one who still cleans these regularly ? )

asciilifeform: pbfffffft

asciilifeform: but in my experience they make poor nodes.

asciilifeform: it doesn't hurt to try

asciilifeform: ( clogs the bus )

asciilifeform: lobbes: generally no

asciilifeform: i had nfi that this is a difficult concept.

asciilifeform: whereas if you simply DON'T MOTHERFUCKING LEAK, it doesn't matter if 500, 5,000,000, whatever.

asciilifeform: could be 499. could be 4.

asciilifeform: sina: you DON'T KNOW that it's 500

asciilifeform: == 'what is the point of obeying traffic signals, i have a good chance of death in traffic anyway'

asciilifeform: sina: i'll ask just this one more time : what is your argument ?

asciilifeform: but refusing to actually plug the leak at the source, dooms you to it

asciilifeform: and ill-conceived -- 'enumeration of badness'

asciilifeform: this list is arbitrarily long and NECESSARILY incomplete

asciilifeform: to whoever sits on your pole transformer.

asciilifeform: to the other electronics, of various provenance, in your house. in your neighbour's house. to martians. etc

asciilifeform: to your neighbour, watching the room lights; to passer-by with antenna; to your isp; varies

asciilifeform: it's a 'to whom it may concern..'

asciilifeform: there isn't a 'to whom', that's what word 'broadcast' ~means~

asciilifeform: otherwise may or may not, but YOU DON'T KNOW which

asciilifeform: if it's 500 recipes / sec for an hour, i'll read it

asciilifeform: sina: what argument are you trying to make ?

asciilifeform: the other practicality is that certain hypothetical uses of rsa -- such as specifically gossipd -- magnify this leak to the point where you are broadcasting the key at a few kHz

asciilifeform: whether anybody happens to be listening is separate consideration.

asciilifeform: sina: the practicalities are - that every time you unholster your gpg key, you broadcast a few bits of it. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ditto gpg.

asciilifeform: sina: our 18th ancestors' perspectives on hygiene are not advice to the modern thinking man.

asciilifeform: but it is right now in prototype phase

asciilifeform: the 1 constanttime implementation -- is mine

asciilifeform: sina: currently there is exactly 1 rsatron that anybody worth mentioning uses, gpg. which is a sad joke in 9,001 ways, and slated for replacement

asciilifeform: sina: sharp tool for sewing in leather

asciilifeform: it is enough for the awl to pierce the sack exactly once, anywhere.

asciilifeform: the hypothetical 'time envelope' -- sack

asciilifeform: your modularexp is an awl

asciilifeform: sina: there is a ru proverb, pertinent, also : 'you cannot conceal an awl inside a sack'

asciilifeform: is it obvious how, or is it necessary to explain ?

asciilifeform: the 'release modular exponentiation result after time T' is an armoured propeller.

asciilifeform: the french at first took the idiot path of... armouring propellers.

asciilifeform: anyway, the 'modern' scheme, with the synchronized bolt, is a german invention

asciilifeform: so the coaxial -- with propeller -- was chosen

asciilifeform: can have a second man, but in the cardboard planes this was an expensive mass proposition.

asciilifeform: problem is, how do you aim.

asciilifeform: but this was quickly found to be a sad joke, folx wanted to mount machine gun

asciilifeform: in ww1, at first flyers had to be content with dropping caltrops, frags, firing revolvers, from the cockpit

asciilifeform: sina: do you know the story of the synchronized machine gun ?

asciilifeform: the 'write an email on my box, encrypt it with RSA, then send it...what timing info can be derived' contention is merely a special case of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674800 ☝︎

asciilifeform: sina: your question is in fact a repeat of old thread , which you participated in, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674790 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( today's, e.g. aes, have moar boxes still. but same principle, of rearrangement. )

asciilifeform: actually quite same.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, ALL, without exception, blockcipher and streamcipher, published to date, are ~enigma ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686295 << mircea_popescu would enjoy surprises no moar than asciilifeform does if he did not have a thick layer of otherpeople to insulate own skin from them ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( specifically it is secure ~against your analysis~, but not the nsa designer's )

asciilifeform: it does not fit in any head because it is rubbish, specifically constructed to be difficult to analyze, but not by virtue of this any more secure in any sense you might care about

asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: is whole point.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686192 << that there's the endgame of all usgcoinisms, neh. ☝︎

asciilifeform: better make it a 30mm flak round to be sure

asciilifeform: what's the point of learning aerodynamics for plebians, the concepts are too hard to follow, there are so many traps in flying, and the argument to believe that it is possible to safely travel in an airplane requires understanding so many lemmas. it is easy to get into a spin, how can one not believe they are not headed screaming into the ground along the way....

asciilifeform: maybe another spin at 'mrs degree' ?

asciilifeform: i thought subj were escapee from usa

asciilifeform: orc gurl aite

asciilifeform: aaaa

asciilifeform: i thought thread was re 'they want back to usa'

asciilifeform: mno, usa

asciilifeform: well yes, back home where irs is waiting

asciilifeform: they have parents neh

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686227 << in usa it is 'soft' peonage -- all it does is, if somebody pays you in electro-usgolade, they take ~80%; if you inherit property , they take whole thing ☝︎

asciilifeform: a very large fraction of ~both~ is devoted to rubbish (des, kerberos, dsa) which are of strictly archaeological/entomological interest

asciilifeform: i started with ancient copy of schneier, later found the vanstone and realized that it is a superset

asciilifeform: they're encyclopaedias, read whichever sections pleases you

asciilifeform: ( contains, for instance, pretty good review of finite field arithmetic methods )

asciilifeform: heavier on the mathematics, lighter on the chitchat

asciilifeform: imho.

asciilifeform: *cryptography

asciilifeform: by vanstone et al

asciilifeform: incidentally, the mega-b00k from which schneier et al plagiarize ~everything, is : 'handbook of applied crypgography', crc press

asciilifeform: 'applied crypto' is moar of an encyclopaedia than anything else

asciilifeform: 3 is rubbish

asciilifeform: 1 and 2 are interchangeable for all purposes afaik

asciilifeform: (2010). and it is ENTIRELY different book, largely fluff, 0 mathematics, thin

asciilifeform: 'cryptography engineering' . dark blue/blackish cover

asciilifeform: but there also exists a 3 :

asciilifeform: 2 is NOT censored edition, it is more or less same as 1.