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decimation: mircea_popescu: if they had balls + enough money to purchase decent defenses,
USG wouldn't be able to do much
decimation: asciilifeform: once again, the real reason is that the measures required to get the locals to work for you would be forbidden by
usg decimation: right, this implies that
usg is directly responsible for the derpage worldwide
decimation: there isn't a spot on the globe that can be colonized without
usg's tacit permission
decimation: I suppose the immediate response of
USG would be to crush such a project for being racis, etc
mircea_popescu: with the
usg at the helm it really didn't belong anywhere near the common linux newb.
mircea_popescu: consider the simple fact that any legal proceeding could be extended anywhere between six and ninety weeks by an endless parade of character evidence showing
usg agents lieing, being required to lie, etc etc.
mircea_popescu: how about everyone stops sending the likes of the
usg bureaucracy to prison, too!
ben_vulpes: hm, what's that magnet company the
usg's trying to put out of business?
decimation: asciilifeform: well, I imagine that these 'security officers' were not highly trained physicists for one thing. which brings up the point - how does
usg keep its secrets if its security officers are not smart enough to understand them?
decimation:
usg doesn't allow its surplus computers which have touched anything sensitive to return to reality unharmed
decimation is depressed about
usg beating the new new new iraq war drums
TheNewDeal: asciilifeform he's a
usg scientist inasfar as he believes he knows the cures to all the problems in bitcoin, but in actuality, he only thoroughly understands what makes the
USG machine so shitacular
TheNewDeal: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1
usg scientist. may negrate soon
decimation: he seems less likely to be a tool of
usg than others, but maybe that's what they want us to think..
BingoBoingo: <decimation> I suspect that the number of
USG employees who understand money is too small to coordinate a mass bitcoin theft << Even my FBI agent admitted holding some bitcoin... The Treasury agent though was silent on the matter
decimation: I suspect that the number of
USG employees who understand money is too small to coordinate a mass bitcoin theft
BingoBoingo: bats_cd03> an early silk road entrepreneur living it up on southern california after exchanging btc for fiat; authorities spy, notice new camaro but no regular employment since 2010... questioned, gasenwagen, perhaps
USG confiscates some coins along the way. everything is gravy, republic lives another day. << And I bless Jebus I am but a midwestern pauper
bats_cd03: an early silk road entrepreneur living it up on southern california after exchanging btc for fiat; authorities spy, notice new camaro but no regular employment since 2010... questioned, gasenwagen, perhaps
USG confiscates some coins along the way. everything is gravy, republic lives another day.
bats_cd03: lol not an expert. anyway, i speculate: it could be a combination of due diligence combined with the
USG trying to acquire as much btc as possible, theretofore held by citizens not entirely faithful to the fiat gods (e.g. tax evasion, other 'illegal' activities)
BingoBoingo: bats_cd03: Any thoughts on how the
USG encounter I had, you're closest we have to an expert that I know of
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot
usg press machine was a better nick. this bitblabla stuff is a cancer.
BitMarmot: I am also a
USG_Press_Machine from time to time
mircea_popescu: running it may be, maybe, sometime after the
usg gets bored of taking half day rides to nowhere.
ben_vulpes: and what's the relationship to the
usg at BingoBoingo's door?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, the process through which girls become wives and us citizens
usg informants. << and who precisely did the wives piss off? their fathers?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, the process through which girls become wives and us citizens
usg informants.
kdomanski: mod6: when the
usg falls I hope it's caches of chemical weapons are secure
mod6: when the
usg falls, i'll be buyin!
HeySteve: novusordo from that link "Coinbase is an international digital wallet" - not truly int'l as nations sanctioned by
USG are excluded
mircea_popescu: like, a "terrible company" clone for
usg, especially the intel stuff...
mircea_popescu: if that goes away, the current
usg-friendly columbia govt goes away.
mircea_popescu: now let's wonder why exactly is the
usg dept of facebook able to spend 20bn on some random purchase of a valueless firm
mircea_popescu: decimation: mircea_popescu: minor nitpick - I don't think
USG employees get dental actually << generally no, but afaik nsa folk do.
decimation: it's obvious that there's a segment of silicon valley circus that sees bitcoin as a way to exit from
usg decimation: re: gov't control: witness the
usg attempting to "control" "guns"
decimation: part of the problem with
usg employee wages is that congress has held them fixed for several years now I think
decimation: kinda like you can only rent a miner for more than its expected bitcoin mining return, I suspect most 'employees' of
usg work for less than a 'living wage'
decimation: if they work for less than a 'living wage', then they are essentially donating their life to
usg decimation: I suspect most actual work at
usg is done by contractors anyway
decimation: seems like every piece of
usg does things differently
decimation: my understanding is that
usg pretends that 'contractors' are replacable parts, billable hours are based on 'years of experience and education'
usagi: <+danielpbarron> Bitcoin is not about teaming up with the
USG usg_press_machin: Ha! Not necessarily a better one. But as BingoBoingo pointed out,
USG shillery always better in person
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Doping your drink in London though might be the
USG's one chance to try to rape you for a change
mircea_popescu: (but it rests me at ease to hear from the
usg_press_machine itself that crypto is no longer armament)
mircea_popescu: in short : your notion that sitting with the
usg is safe and joining the rebels is dangerous is fundamentally broken. sitting with the
usg is safe except if the rebels get the upper hand.
☟︎ usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu yes but I don't think paying taxes to the
USG - no matter what the
USG does - is Nuremberg material.
mircea_popescu:
usg_press_machin but anyway, a secondary point to your " obeying the law and paying taxes?" is that if you happen to be obeying the "laws" of a terrorist organisation and giving it money, you may end up in hot water with a lot of people.
BingoBoingo:
usg_press_machin: There's at least 800 different alternatives to your two presented options and there are 796 of those alternatives are compatible with at least one other option. GO! Math!
mircea_popescu:
usg_press_machin if you read the logs, you've seen how well this entire "try and force mp into our preconceived headboxes" worked before.
mircea_popescu: <
usg_press_machin> But from a more practical perspective, some of the tools people use to interact with the blockchain e.g. brain wallets or faulty random number generators are weak points. << how do you figure this has anything to do with ecdsa ?
mircea_popescu: <
usg_press_machin> Surely it can't be that easy. << why not ?!
decimation:
usg_press_machin: I assume you are dying to give us pro
usg propaganda?
mircea_popescu:
usg_press_machin just how often do you check them hits ?
gribble: Nick '
usg_press_machin', with hostmask '
usg_press_machin!6b033f2c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.3.63.44', is not identified.
mircea_popescu:
usg_press_machin i don't like you enough to pm. and no, not really. you can comment on it once it's done.
decimation: mircea_popescu: surely you do not mean these guys receive paychecks from
usg. plenty of people shill in the hope that they can get scraps from the master's table
mircea_popescu: that's what teh boys got. how well bitcoin integrates (ie, how well some
usg twerps nobody takles seriously have pretended to integrate with their puppet masters. herp.) and how unsovereign it is.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier well the problem is... he couldn't have. this is like saying "
usg could have fixed btc in 2010, saved a lot of 2014-16 headaches"
pete_dushenski: basically, this is the
usg's attempt to "kill" bitcoin
godovo: not letting
usg "get in" for cheap is directly related to the size of the early holdings
mircea_popescu: que "i'm such a jerk, and history coming to bite one in the ass is so unfair, and what sort of
usg democracy is this where responsibility exists!!1"
TomServo: Could someone fill in the blanks for me on how the connection between ninjashogun and
usg was made? Sounds like an average scammer to me.