assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 67 @ 0.00910189 = 0.6098 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: everything looks to be in order
thestringpuller: he forgot to mention to put a payment address in the signed invoice
thestringpuller: I will go ahead and pay the full thing up front (instead of half up front and half on completion)
nubbins`: i should be able to get that sent off tonight
thestringpuller: I just find it sad to throw away good electronics to a landfill.......
nubbins`: 9 posters sold already, 41 remain :0
gribble: #21351 Mon Aug 25 19:39:07 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50, pre-order price only, shipping week of August 31,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0) nubbins`: thestringpuller: yes, but pre-orders are buying sight-unseen. you want pics first, you gotta wait for general release and pay an extra $5-10
nubbins`: i'm more a technician than anything :D
mircea_popescu: i live in wait of the day a doctor says to some poor woman somewhere
mircea_popescu: "miss, you had an impacted fuckoid in there we had to take out"
nubbins`: "you've got a bunch of fuckin tumors in your head"
mircea_popescu: "you know i spilled my coffee earlier while spazzing @ facebook, which sucked
mircea_popescu: but it doesn't suck nearly as much as this phase 2 lymphomyeloma you've got"
assbot: Ceibax - decentralized finance
kakobrekla: they were busted for using stock photos with made up names
mircea_popescu: i kinda picture this overweight, sad guy in overalls sitting in an empty food court under a handwritten "TopModel Buttsex Initiation Group", looking all dejected
thestringpuller: Wu Tang should take Dave Chappelle's Wu Tang financial idea and make a bitcoin hedge fund.
kakobrekla: >So our host confirmed, we indeed had a security breach. It seems a malicious entity swapped our image files - hopefully not more, I am not accusing you dogetime. I am not yet sure what exactly happened, but we will find out.
nubbins`: ben_vulpes: no pics until the pre-order is finished :)
nubbins`: take a gamble and save $10, or play it safe :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know you sound just like a simple mind psychopath by now.
nubbins`: thestringpuller: it's the only sensible way to obtain btc, selling goods for btc.
kakobrekla: i guess nubbins` will send out blank sheets of paper and call it a day.
nubbins`: kakobrekla, i promised they'd love it, can't send blank ;(
mircea_popescu: "hello is this xerox support center ? yes how do i set my printer so it prints the image of the onlooker's girlfriend ? what do you mean i have to take her picture first bullshit. what if it changes ??? i can't be running after all these people taking their picture incessantly. hello ? HELLO ??? "
mircea_popescu: btw, here's a free idea for our entrepreneurial friends :
nubbins`: IF THEY DON'T, WHAT WILL I HAVE BECOME?
nubbins`: kakobrekla +1, i'm really going out on a limb huh ;(
mircea_popescu: everyone's making cryptocurrencies, nobody's making decryptocurrencies
mircea_popescu: why the fuck not ? you can't have crypt w/o decrypt...
kakobrekla: and im not even thinking of -1. more like -8.
nubbins`: ;:rate nubbins` -8 did not love a thing he promised i would
mircea_popescu: ::rate nubbins -48 delivered some paper which looked kinda ok but i didn't love it as promised, i loved amy instead.
ben_vulpes: haha i love the text at the bottom there
nubbins`: ;:rate nubbins -maxint i did not love but lust
mircea_popescu: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 He introduced me to some hot chicks over the years.
gribble: Error: You cannot rate yourself.
punkman: kakobrekla: can haz reshipped poster?
nubbins`: ok, this is getting a bit much
nubbins`: 10 sold now, that's 20% of the for-sale run
assbot: MS-Word is {Not} a document exchange format
kakobrekla: yeah its better when we dont know what we are buying into.
nubbins`: kakobrekla better for me, at least :o
assbot: TheCynicalPharmacist: Tramadol Supply
BingoBoingo wonders where pankkake is for today's eventful day
mircea_popescu: don't tell me there's going to be a peak tramadol event
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You see after it became a controlled substance, all of it was held up in shipping, for stickers...
mircea_popescu: shitty cocktail anyway, no idea why anyone';d be using it.
BingoBoingo: Eh, before doctors prescribed it because it was an opiate that wasn't a controlled substance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 118 @ 0.01169411 = 1.3799 BTC [+]
assbot: My thoughts on the ALS challenge
BingoBoingo: I am but a pauper kept here for the funnies.
BingoBoingo: My first impression seriously though that this might be the day the student loan holders tried to collect the balance on my kidneys.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the reason why I greeted the fellows at the door in the peculiar way I did.
BingoBoingo: "The reason for this is in my jurisdiction failure to identify yourself in a law enforcement encounter is a crime of questionable constitutional provenance, while having a conversation with a debt collector or process server that consists of nothing on your part other than intoning "Fuck You" a myriad of different was is great justice for all and legally sound."
nubbins`: i give it a couple years before simply being a regular in -assets makes air travel difficult
BingoBoingo: All the more reason to drink and gamble. Bitbet is a godsend.
nubbins`: ;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin. << c. random derps wandered into with random derpage.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00081884 = 0.5732 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: not so. sometimes i think you fail to appreciate what drudgery govt work is.
mircea_popescu: after the silk road thing, govt clerks everywhere are stuck following up. everything.
BingoBoingo: Well this conversation and the blog are in plaintext. If they want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, well next year's a time.
mircea_popescu: it's the fbi equivalent of being sent to direct traffic.,
BingoBoingo: Seriously though these guys made a nearly 5 hour round trip drive when... St Louis is 30 minutes away
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nobody needed punishment in the st louis bureau.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or Peoria, Illinois is as boring as I suspect.
mircea_popescu: yeah, adult males often go for 5 hour car rides in the sun for fun.
nubbins`: well heat exhaustion is no fun alone
mircea_popescu: this is why the average redditard is sadder than the average inmate.
BingoBoingo: I mean I'll spend 5 hours driving in a car on a hot day and enjoy it solo, but to each their own
mircea_popescu: humans take great comfort in the sufferances of the fellow man.
BingoBoingo: Well, if this blog post ends up linked on CoinDesk, I'm sure the FBI agent will read about it.
ben_vulpes: and what's the relationship to the usg at BingoBoingo's door?
mircea_popescu: "He was so sad. You know what Winchell was doing at the end? Typing out mimeographed sheets with his column, handing them out on the corner. That's how sad he got. When he died, only one person came to his funeral: his daughter."
mircea_popescu: hey all ye michael moore wannabes out there ? see winchell. he was the original libtard.
mircea_popescu: hard to beat a dude pushing a telex key randomly to "impart a sense of urgency"
ben_vulpes: but i did build a crystal radio. out of which poured...random garbage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun factoid : one of s. lewis' stories (bongo) was stolen & rewritten by a romanian author a decade later
mircea_popescu: you should see this thing. i mean, there's this vast tradition in romanian of making incredibly sad and outrageously depressing stories the only fare kids are allowed up until about puberty
assbot: The Russian Wizard of Oz
assbot: Literature/Tales of the Magic Land - Television Tropes & Idioms
mircea_popescu: oldest defense to copyright infringement, seems to me perfectly valid.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 503.89, Best ask: 504.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 504.82, 24 hour volume: 5394.69116707, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 506.98, 24 hour vwap: 502.765156743
assbot: Literature/Tale of the Troika - Television Tropes & Idioms
assbot: Animation/Suur Toll - Television Tropes & Idioms
assbot: Nobody thinks about the robot apocalypse when spec'ing out a sex android. They should. When the time comes, are you going to be the sub?
assbot: Suur Toll - part 1 - YouTube
mircea_popescu: this time delusion is like the geek's favourite trope already. wtf, "when the time comes". the time came.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno yet. Maybe it's an abuse of Kant taking the imposition of time upon the manifold by intuiting and assuming that gives them... power?
mircea_popescu: either that or a wishful extension of the school environment. you know, "when the time for the exam comes". by definition that will be later.
mircea_popescu: little does school sally know or wish to notice that in fact her cunt;'s been bleeding for a while, and wanda the preteen whore's time is apparently long gone.
assbot: Series/Roots - Television Tropes & Idioms
Flerb: Why was that a question?
Flerb: BingoBoingo: I was just thanking you for doing the !up
BingoBoingo: Flerb: But isn't it fun turning minor typing errors into games?
Flerb: BingoBoingo: oh right
Flerb foolishly bought 0.05 btc worth of btm without understanding it
Flerb: Is there a relatively good place to start with assets?
Flerb: I've been doing BTCjam loans and getting quite good returns
Flerb: asciilifeform: mhm
mircea_popescu: i've been crossing red lights and not wearing a seat belt.
Flerb: mircea_popescu: isn't that, maybe slightly illegal?
mircea_popescu: dealing with some thinly veiled online scam ? not really, no.
mircea_popescu: running it may be, maybe, sometime after the usg gets bored of taking half day rides to nowhere.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c van iframe css fixt
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski van iframe css fixt
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell BingoBoingo van iframe css fixt
Flerb: mircea_popescu: I think it would be
Flerb: Is crossing red lights without seatbelts an online scam?
Flerb: Are you implying that the people who own it are scammers?
Flerb: Or people who borrow on it!
Flerb: Because some of them are scammers
kakobrekla: so van ads in rolling now on bitbet - feel free to buy the shit.
Flerb: mircea_popescu: so it's an online scam?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: explicitly overriding the user-browser css body margin
ben_vulpes: nobody's bought anything to run there yet.
assbot: MPOE-PR's list of things you always suspected were scams but never dared say so.
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes VAN doesn't recognize that keyid. Please try again with the shortform of your GPG/PGP keyid. << now wouldn't it be saner if you just took the last 8 ?
Flerb: mircea_popescu: says it isn't a scam per se
mircea_popescu: Flerb driving without insurance isn't a crime per se either.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i've heard "last 8" i've heard "long keyids"
Duffer1: in the states it's a crime
Flerb: mircea_popescu: it is in the UK
Flerb: mircea_popescu: walking on streets isn't a scam per se
Flerb: Should probably get my gribble thing sorted
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation:
http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ ben_vulpes: question for everyone using gpg: when you want to look up your keyid, what do you do?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i logged in. i clicked to buy, it logged me out, had to log back in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12601 @ 0.00069266 = 8.7282 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so how do i say "put the same ad i have running atm on this new site too" ?
mircea_popescu: or for that matter how do i say "what ads do i have running again ?"
assbot: GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes form totally has to prepopulate start date with today's date and end date with end of month date.
mircea_popescu: you probably are fucking up the cookie read or write somewhere.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068769 = 5.3984 BTC [-]
assbot: Game 27 - Death 3686 Life 6314 Year 824 - War of Life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.0217227 = 0.6734 BTC [-]
assbot: On interpreting access statistics
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: naively. whenever a browser requests the iframe, that's logged.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one of the goals was to do away with the numerology of web stats.
assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28755 = 0.5751 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: ghtufjfjgjj comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 586.41 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.48 TH/s
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 505.3, Best ask: 506.37, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 505.26, 24 hour volume: 5294.87896913, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 506.98, 24 hour vwap: 502.965397866
BingoBoingo: I've come up with another theory... What if the government just wants to drive me crazier
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00069266 = 8.3466 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you gotta get out of the states, man.
BingoBoingo: If I hurry out not I'd probably find myself zipping into a duffel bag before taking a shower or something. Gotta let boredom encompass first.
BingoBoingo: You have to realize the most recent blog post was the most rational of possible self defense measures.
BingoBoingo: Any impression I might be intentionally hiding the connection between myself and my slave name specifically from law enforcement is gone.
BingoBoingo may have read too much W.E.B. Dubois in grad school
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8843 @ 0.00069315 = 6.1295 BTC [+] {3}
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 25737909372.3 based on data since last change | 24383282753.5 based on data for last three days
gribble: Current Blocks: 317512 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 25737909372.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.93988
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00082077 = 0.8208 BTC [+] {4}
stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment.
stripykitteh: Just trying to touch base, but it's not urgent.
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 3 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> distracted
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 901 @ 0.00357458 = 3.2207 BTC [-] {8}
BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers"
BingoBoingo: If anyone wants to ride the impending wave of traffic
BingoBoingo: Not sure how I like the editor retitling me to an "early Bitcoin user"
BingoBoingo: But maybe next year the cutt off for an early user is exposure before $100
TheNewDeal: im not seeing it front page for the moment
TheNewDeal: it's not a general thing like you think
assbot: Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers - Slashdot
TheNewDeal: it's subjective, and relative to the age distribution in our environment
TheNewDeal: and bitcoin age is like reverse exponential. even a few months of exposure at the very beginning set you light years ahead of people like myself
BingoBoingo: Well, a lot of it too is the pain of not holding onto the things early enough
BingoBoingo: I'm going to take a walk up to the gas station and see if the conversation there turns out any better than reddit
assbot: SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62131 @ 0.00069135 = 42.9543 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: thats the most interesting thing ive read for a while
pankkake: BingoBoingo what eventful day?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Oh, the FBI, treasury department. In my front yard.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ben_vulpes What about soylent news?
pankkake: supposed slashdot competitor, comments aren't very good either
Vexual: what did they look like? siezing coins is easy or oh fuck it's not ross?
BingoBoingo: Eh, they looked like two dudes in polo shirts dressed for golf
pankkake: I knew it. I never trusted guys in polo shirts
BingoBoingo: So about 300 hits from the /. in the first hour according to Wordpress
Vexual: niki minaj eat your heart out
pankkake: can't the guy send you a letter instead of showing up unnatended?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well it was two guys. An FBI agent and a department of the Treasury agent
BingoBoingo: But yes, a letter or GPG signed email would be prefered
Vexual: that wouldn't have scared you into behaving in court
BingoBoingo: Well
http://van-ads.com/venues shows only 0.01666 bid so far for advertising on the site today, and most of Murica is still asleep so... If anyone wants to hit that market...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29973 @ 0.00069051 = 20.6967 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6877 @ 0.0006902 = 4.7465 BTC [-]
assbot: LaurentMT/bargaining_protocol GitHub
assbot: [PoC][Draft] The Bargaining Protocol (when BIP70 met the Bazaar)
[]bot: Bet placed: 3.08800157 BTC for Yes on "Under 15% difficulty increase before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1032/ Odds: 99(Y):1(N) by coin, 99(Y):1(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.18800157 BTC. Current weight: 99,905.
pankkake: lol, what's the point of this bet
Vexual: its a bet that bitfury wont get handed another $20 million by nye
Vexual: ;;google 45dd silicone
Vexual: mr avalon himslef is back hashing at ozcoin,theres hashes coming verywheres
Vexual: that haz my karma index up
gribble: truffles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <truffles> tell me when the experiment is over
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00068988 = 31.631 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: sure as shit the guy has some capital losses
assbot: Schneier on Security: The Problems with PGP
assbot: Blog Stphane Bortzmeyer: Scurit, facilit d'usage, et les utilisateurs non-informaticiens
pankkake: some of my pet peeves, that the issue with security and encryption won't be solved by magical dumbed down GUIs
atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 852.12 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.15 TH/s
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: lol slave name u so dramatic << made me lol too.
mircea_popescu: stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment. <<< with a name like that, you know what i thought she wants. but then, imagine my surprise when a twist appears!
mircea_popescu: Vexual "you're not a little behind to us ; you're a large one" :D
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers" <<< if you had a podcast and made slashdot fp two times less, you'd practically be antonopopo guy.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I knew it. I never trusted guys in polo shirts << i never trust women wearing panties.
mircea_popescu: pankkake re the article, which is not bad if banal (sure, ease of use is completely orthogonal to the discussion , big whoop) the one question in my mind is why write in french if all the sources one quotes are in english.
pankkake: he wrote some articles in English, I don't think they had much following. I suppose it's because of the existing (significant) readership
mircea_popescu: but then... he shoul;d prolly translate the references ?
mircea_popescu: how are these people going to understand wtf is the context if they cant read english.
mircea_popescu: (don't mind me, it's like a point i've been doing a lot of thinking on so i guess oversensitized)
pankkake: it's more of a silly prideful refusal to read things in English. but since they started reading the main article, they might read the links
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at the b-a haters making throwaway reddit accts to shit on your post. THIS IS HOW TO WIN!
mircea_popescu: There once was a bishop from Birmingham who deflowered young girls while confirming 'em. As they knelt on the hassock he lifted his cassock and slipped his episcopal worm in 'em.
mircea_popescu: There once was a clergyman's daughter who detested the pony he bought her 'till she found that its dong was as hard and as long as the prayers her father had taught her.
Vexual: regailing his life to his offsping
Vexual: a deadman was making an offering
mircea_popescu: These scions of the Noble House Kelley lived their whole life belly to belly because in their haste they used library paste instead of petroleum jelly.
Vexual: he got haldway through
mircea_popescu: There once was a Duchess of Bruges whose cunt was unspeakably huge. Said the duke to this dame as he thunderously came: "Mon Dieu! Apres moi, le deluge!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19740 @ 0.00069193 = 13.6587 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: There once was a fencer named Fisk whose speed was incredibly brisk. So fast was his action the Fitzgerald contraction foreshortened his foil to a disk.
Vexual waves his log for no reson whatsohaveyou
Vexual: ejrtr do you find these gems?
Vexual: and what rhymes with offering?
Vexual: he said nah tin lids, im just jesting
mircea_popescu: There once was a gangster named Brown, the sneakiest bastard in town.He was caught by G-men shooting his semen where the cops would slip and fall down. << should be on bingoboingo's prison cell.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7810 @ 0.00069425 = 5.4221 BTC [+]
Vexual: laser scanner, 3d printer, latex: $2500
Vexual: passing bad check with the cop who hasseled you face: pricless
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Irene who snarfed up distilled kerosene, but she found a good bargain on a new hydrocarbon and since then she's never benzene.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00069127 = 3.1107 BTC [-]
Vexual: while patiently waiting to travel
Vexual: an asset'er dint unravel
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Louise whose cunt hair hung down to her knees. The crabs in her twat tied the hairs in a knot an' reached fame on the flying trapeze.
mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Mcgoffin who was diddled amazingly often. She was diddled by scores who'd been turned down by whores and then laid out to waste in her coffin.
Vexual: polo maleets repla-ced by gavels
mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: There was once a lawyer named Rex known for his diminutive sex. On arraign for exposure he maintained his composure : "De minimis non curat lex."
mircea_popescu: There once was a man from Nantucket who kept all his cash in a bucket. His daughter called Nan ran away with a man and as for the bucket... Nantucket.
mircea_popescu: There was once a miner named Dave who kept a dead whore in his cave. She was ugly as shit and missing one tit, but think of the money he saves!
mircea_popescu: There once was a sad Maitre d'Hotel who said, "They can all go to hell! What they do to my wife...why, it ruins my life! And the worst is they all do it well."
mircea_popescu: There once was a son of a bitch, neither clever, nor handsome, nor rich. Yet the girls he would dazzle and fuck to a frazzle, and then ditch them, the son of a bitch!
Vexual: jow many cougars did you ruin today?
Vexual: hiw much to shit to rural oz from rural canadia?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00068854 = 10.6035 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: one foot on the grounded ery time
Vexual: a cuntess describ-ed by vitrue
Vexual: whose diamonds wheres purplish and blue
Vexual: went to the wrong house
Vexual: but exploded and took with her a few
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3752 @ 0.000688 = 2.5814 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00075001 = 0.75 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: dtones no longer safe on earth, war is coming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16398 @ 0.0006872 = 11.2687 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 805 @ 0.0008225 = 0.6621 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: punkman what do you mean "we" anyway ? you're not greek are you ?
mircea_popescu: well that changes things, i was derping with the squiggly letters in like articles and whatnot on the general understanding that nobody knows wtf they are.
punkman: lots of them in the unicodes
assbot: String Latéral Flash Rouge Alter
punkman: is that oriya? irc client don't have enough font for it
Vexual: mine doeth but i can read it
punkman: don't think this cut works for underwear
Vexual: dont need it in the pradesh
mircea_popescu: punkman i mean literally, athletes 3500 years ago wore the exact garment.
mircea_popescu: well there were a number of cock dispositions, mostly consisting on tying it to one side somehow
mircea_popescu: actually skirts were not really invented either. it was either this or wear a sheet.
assbot: String Latéral Flash Argent Alter
Vexual: sheet then, but im thinking of today, not 3000 yago
punkman: mircea_popescu: they did a lot of sport in the nude afaik
mircea_popescu: well yes, but you still gotta do something with the dangly.
assbot: BitBet - Under 15% difficulty increase before 2015 :: 3.15 B (99%) on Yes, 0.04 B (1%) on No | closing in 4 months 2 days | weight: 99`765 (100`000 to 1)
Vexual: moriarty fuck you arsehat
Vexual: ill spoon feed you kaka
Apocalyptic: Vexual, is he still spamming his channel in pm ?
Vexual: no, that was for the other day
assbot: Omar Faruk Tekbilek - Whirling Dervish - YouTube
Vexual: what follows cannot be forgiven
Vexual: ;;google alibaba mean tenderiser injectavle
assbot: Ukraine says Russian forces cross border in tanks, armored vehicles - The Washington Post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32151 @ 0.00069085 = 22.2115 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: chetty unless they start crossing in frigates and submarines, they've crossed it in everything by now.
chetty: someone should write an obit for the ukraine
mircea_popescu: this is only the... hm. 5th time it's divvied up by greedy neighbours ?
Vexual: wait till south china sea blows up
Vexual: rocks with fish can cause wars
assbot: Platforma unui posibil partid conservator roman pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: guy put his message through gt, ended up rendering Hello I am David Chambers as Hello I am David Rooms.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2879 = 0.5758 BTC [-]
Vexual: i mean that in the nicest way
antonosika: mircea, I have been too busy to follow the updates on ethereum, but I feel like finishing what I started. How do you feel about a 2015 delivery contract?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8349 @ 0.00069281 = 5.7843 BTC [+]
Vexual: shes not chasing you for moeny
assbot: This Bank Choked Off 3 Legal Enterprises. Is It Yours?
ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored?
Vexual: thats the shittiest bank ive ever heard of
Vexual: you'd need a third kinda lawyer
ThickAsThieves: well suntrust is southerners i think, they hate everything that happened after the 80s
jurov: kakobrekla lol where's it from? SAP?
antonosika: Mircea is it officially best to have all communication here in the chat for transparency?
Vexual: you what yo ulike antonia
antonosika: As you might have noticed my abilities on keeping up with irc are very lacking.
assbot: Exchange war: list of crypto-exchanges
Vexual: ok coin changed 130000 bc for old money in the last 24 hours?
Vexual: yeah peole are well aware they might make off with te coin
Vexual: im not isis, im just being realistic
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored? <<< generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive.
mircea_popescu: chetty what's "legal" mean ? it's a police state, if the govt don't like you you're illegal, full stop.
mircea_popescu: silenceisdefeat.com ? holy shit, bangalore marketplaces must have won.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.0, Best ask: 510.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 510.01, 24 hour volume: 6092.61347852, 24 hour low: 499.0, 24 hour high: 512.0, 24 hour vwap: 505.970175212
Vexual: i could drop by on my way to turkey to take my bride
gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.0006887 = 32.7133 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared
Vexual: bingo dont bullshit much
mircea_popescu: escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!
Vexual: he gonna swear on his wot, not the bible
gribble: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command.
assbot: antonosika +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
chetty: <mircea_popescu> escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!// hmm what happened to the gun shops and churches?
gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is identified as user 'antonosika', with GPG key id 86AC5789F93ED2E7, key fingerprint 71A1EC4E1B6C7DD853FD856C86AC5789F93ED2E7, and bitcoin address None
antonosika: mircea I hope you apoligize me as a learning beginner.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive. /// that has been my position so far. "worth it" would be getting the bonds redeemed for the bitcoins, or getting a similarly valued pile of cash
pete_dushenski: also synonym for modafinil, "an oral drug that is used for improving wakefulness in patients with excessive sleepiness"
antonosika: mircea Please continue about how to proceed.
pete_dushenski: "He toss my salad like his name Romaine, And when we done, I make him buy me Balmain"
pete_dushenski: "I wanna see all the big fat ass bitches in the muthafuckin' club. Fuck you if you skinny bitches, what?! Kyuh"
Vexual: 20 million in 2 days aisnt no shit
Vexual: the one without her vid has 10 mill bit thats 2 motnhs
ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> how much i sit? is she mining? /// roughly $70k. god knows.
Vexual: ltc gon south lately is that old money?
ThickAsThieves: ltc will copy btc during time of volatility and then die otherwise
ThickAsThieves: i still think chinese are running some kinda btcusd ltcbtc scheme
Vexual: is that your anal isis?
Vexual: cifermine is vetter off mining doge if they want bc
Vexual: i watch the rate make no mistake
Vexual: you're mainly concerned with the bond?
Vexual: ill bring my spreadsheets to court if you spoof my fingerprimts fpr a visa
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
antonosika: I'm a huge fan of bitcoin-assets and try to hang out here when I can. What is really needed to get auto-voice?
Vexual: scriptness at your end
pankkake: ;;rate antonosika 1 bitcoin-assets +v
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user antonosika has been recorded.
pankkake: now you just have to /msg assbot !up
pete_dushenski: "People are freaking out on Burger King's Facebook page over the burger chain's moving its headquarters to Canada.
pete_dushenski: The American fast-food chain has agreed to merge with Canadian coffee and donut chain Tim Hortons."
antonosika: Are there any good resources for guidelines on giving away trust levels?
assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
pete_dushenski: Russia Wants Bulgarians to Stop Vandalizing Soviet Monuments... to look like American superheroes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00068585 = 21.2614 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: pankakke, things have changed
Vexual: 80 million hits really kick sthe llamas ass
Vexual: 15% all year is possible
Vexual: yeah big mebe big silicone
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Vexual: but if it went the other way i wouldnt be too sursprised
Vexual: these people lost the marshall auction
Vexual: however 15% in december will melt some inut vag
Vexual: well whoever is buting hasg
pete_dushenski: i think the marshall auction loozers invested in exchanges and things
pete_dushenski: there was that korean one, the mexican one, the indian one...
Vexual: korea gonna be playin elora soon
pete_dushenski: dunno. was talking about exchanges, payment processors, etc
pete_dushenski: i think the koreans will stick with starcraft for at least another 100 years
pete_dushenski: i don't blame them one bit either, it's not to be improved on
Vexual: how many korean play starcraft?
Vexual: 1% of those play shitty fuck on android too, its a big bad world
Vexual: i can dial up an multiplaey wad on my old nintendo and theres hundresds there
Flerb__: BTM's IPO just finished. Odd, buyers bidding really really low prices
Vexual: go back to denmark u horse fucker
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58638980 BTC to 15`044 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 9.61389968 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 836 satoshi per share
assbot: Flerb__ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
fluffypony: oh no way - Richard Attenborough died yesterday
Flerb__: Thanks, how do I get to "level 2"
Flerb__: fluffypony, I thought it was David Attenborough at first
Flerb__: What do I have to do to establish trust with gribble?
fluffypony: L1 is a direct trust relationship with assbot
fluffypony: L2 is somebody-assbot-trusts-also-trusts-you
fluffypony: or someone assbot as rated would have to rate you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: FBI issues warning about creative Google searches | CSO Online
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.285 = 1.425 BTC [-]
punkman: deego: But, really, this is not the only one issue. I have had so many attempts at id theft here and irl that it's annoying beyond belief and I just wish to frigging disappear from otc. So, please do remove my ratings, everyone. :)
Duffer1: i mean which one are you authed as?
Flerb: Are you supposed to actually do something to get trust?
Duffer1: ;;rate Flerb 1 a for effort
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Flerb has been recorded.
Duffer1: you should be able to !up yourself now
Duffer1: just a comment so i don't forget why i rated you
ben_vulpes: damn BingoBoingo you're racking up the hits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00068747 = 4.4665 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 54 @ 0.0370184 = 1.999 BTC [-] {6}
Flerb: Didn't need it now though
ben_vulpes: now that's programming with time as a first class principle!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 49 @ 0.04940815 = 2.421 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00250591 = 0.5012 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 47 @ 0.27094569 = 12.7344 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2672 = 1.0688 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13775 @ 0.00068757 = 9.4713 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1449 @ 0.00083251 = 1.2063 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1707 @ 0.00085265 = 1.4555 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Flerb +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1277 @ 0.000861 = 1.0995 BTC [-]
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jurov: antonosika: you do SEPA?
assbot: Flerb +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
danielpbarron: who is this preston byrne guy and is he in here already?
assbot: In which we teach basic reading comprehension to a certain Mr. Preston Byrne pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BlueMeanie4: that whole gang of people are just making big problems
BlueMeanie4: they kicked Charles out of ethereum then announce a partnership with his other project
BlueMeanie4: also Mircea - you dont like Preston Bryne?
danielpbarron: might want to use a ;;later tell -- he's not logged in at the moment
BlueMeanie4: Vitalik was invovled in Mastercoin too, seems ppl forget that
danielpbarron: i never liked mastercoin; counterparty always seemed like the better choice (putting aside the idiocy of a decentralized exchange)
BlueMeanie4: the ppl at counterparty are at least reliable
BlueMeanie4: yes there are flaws with their ideas, but it can be used for some things
BlueMeanie4: yes their claims are reliable, which is important
BlueMeanie4: re. counterparty- they are blazing the trail- let them do it and spend someone else money :)
danielpbarron: the counterparty devs probably made out well with that project; the price of XCP is well over the initial burn price
BlueMeanie4: im sure they brought some in, it's not a crime
fluffypony: "After a whirlwind of bidding activity, a 9.0-graded copy of Action Comics #1 sold on eBay yesterday for a whopping $3.2-million, the most ever paid for a comic book"
assbot: Action Comics 1 June 1938 Superman 039 s Debut CGC 9 0 Perfect White Pages | eBay
fluffypony: that's going to be a fun PayPal dispute
gribble: BlueMeanie4, get in the WoT! (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00068663 = 30.5894 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads?
danielpbarron: ;;later tell nubbins` you accept PPUSD for payment?
danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, whichever key-server is used as the default for gnupg (i think)
assbot: SKS OpenPGP Public Key Server
danielpbarron: at least, that's the one -otc references with ;;gpg info
danielpbarron: stupid assbot, this is the main part: "@danielpbarron I suspect I am beyond redemption on #bitcoin-assets. Send everyone my regards though."
gribble: BlueMeanie4, don't forget the ;;
gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
danielpbarron: and leave out the 515... too; you want the last 16 or 8 characters
gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
danielpbarron: the key id is the last 8 characters of the fingerprint
BlueMeanie4: the fingerprint is 1FD2 7380 0859 479E AE75 77AD DCB3 74BF 5158 7535
danielpbarron: so try this: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535
BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535 ;;
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
assbot: SKS OpenPGP Public Key Server
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla. << mircea_popescu could you introduce me to this woman
danielpbarron: apparently gribble doesn't use the keyserver he links to
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
assbot: Need a number of lines.
danielpbarron: ;;echo BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: [everify]
gribble: BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
BlueMeanie4: this system is usable by about 20 people all of them have PhDs
danielpbarron: if you can't do these basic things then why are you in Bitcoin?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00068905 = 2.6473 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: anyway, finish it! ;;everify your-decrypted-challenge-string
danielpbarron: it should be anyone's take who has a brain and doesn't like wasting it
danielpbarron: in my own experience, it's not worth getting people into Bitcoin that can't do these things
danielpbarron: they will need endless hand-holding and are constant sources of drama
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 239 @ 0.00278915 = 0.6666 BTC [+]
BlueMeanie4: i think this goes back to ancient times really, so did the romans
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28399999 = 0.852 BTC [+]
TomServo: +BlueMeanie4 | MSFT divides users into 4 groups << eh?
BlueMeanie4: ;;everify 840654f07c4296bd320ea97d2bff00e45b255d6e8185964e8585a5e8
gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
BlueMeanie4: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:840654f07c4296bd320ea97d2bff00e45b255d6e8185964e8585a5e8
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user BlueMeanie4 with key DCB374BF51587535
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gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BlueMeanie4 has been recorded.
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jurov: antonosika: still buying?
assbot: Artificial Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century, Oxford Professor Says
jurov: How to control superintelligent AI is really the most important task of our time -- yet, it is almost completely ignored.
jurov: got me a few good chuckles
jurov: Cognitive enhancement could take place through collective cognitive ability -- the Internet, for example, and institutional innovations that enable humans to function better together. In terms of individual cognitive enhancement, the first thing likely to be successful is genetic selection in the context of in-vitro fertilization. I don't hold out much for cyborgs or implants.
jurov: i don't sniff ether. i prefer euros
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> i'm getting use out of it << what are ya doing with cp?
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads? << the former
assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause
jurov: coinroll's just trying for few days
jurov: BlueMeanie4 no just noticed you were trying
assbot: Teva recalls Parkinson's disease drug because it may be 'superpotent' - FiercePharma Manufacturing
ThickAsThieves: does it cause superdepression leading to actors killing themselves?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: This drug works the opposite direction, gets converted to Dopamine in vivo
BingoBoingo: Not effects Dopamine, is a precursor for dopamine
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 24h-Vol: 2k High: 175 Low: 175 VWAP: 174
assbot: Electromagnetic Warfare Is Here - IEEE Spectrum
ThickAsThieves: it sure is hard to book a US flight that isnt somehow connected to US Airways sometimes...
BlueMeanie4: as soon as I see the word 'webinar' im turned off
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: It's like any other thing. Most of them are absolute shit, but occasionally you get one by an actual expert on an actual subject. There was actually a nice OpenBSD one done by Micheal W. Lucas for O'Reilly
BlueMeanie4: they use the term 'webinar' to make you think its' something more important than some lame video someone churned out
assbot: BitShares: Don’t walk away. Run | Preston Byrne
assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
BlueMeanie4: dignork Daniel and I were reading that this morning
danielpbarron: wow, now warriorforum won't let me link to other people's sites in my signature
BingoBoingo: Beautiful kakobrekla, keep us updated if there is a further reply
jurov: mircea says crapre diem?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 719 @ 0.00089996 = 0.6471 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
BlueMeanie4: cant i make options and futures contracts on here?
danielpbarron: ya, just type it up and clearsign it with your PGP key; get the other guy to sign that
assbot: X.EUR last 625@0.00233000
BlueMeanie4: so what kind of contract would you do then?
danielpbarron: i'd be interested in some sort of deal where I buy BTC at today's price next year
xmj: you know BlueMeanie4
xmj: or, Forward, when done OTC.
BlueMeanie4: a future is similar, but it delivers the actual asset and the price is paid down in full
BlueMeanie4: so an option is the ABILITY not the OBLIGATION to buy
BlueMeanie4: so i would do a small BTC future just for kicks
xmj: BlueMeanie4: which is what I understood danielpbarron meant.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla << but it'
BlueMeanie4: 'buy BTC at a preset price in the future' is an option
xmj: it doesn't specify that you have the right not to buy said amount of BTC.
BlueMeanie4: you should try to conform to common terminology- makes it easier for people to get invovled
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it doesn't help that he doesn;'t really know the common terminology.
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BlueMeanie4: the one in the backside of the NYSE where hookers hang out?
BlueMeanie4: not hard to learn, but the complex structured instruments are not that easy to figure out
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Future Delivery Contract Fo - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: listen, you got to get in the wot if you keep coming by.
gribble: Nick 'BlueMeanie4', with hostmask 'BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net', is identified as user 'BlueMeanie4', with GPG key id DCB374BF51587535, key fingerprint 1FD273800859479EAE7577ADDCB374BF51587535, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Marx sez : never trust a capitalist.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BlueMeanie4 has been recorded.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Thanks for writing the contract, my take is that you see no way of making it possible for me to avoid waiting till september 2015 for the eth and avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade?
mircea_popescu: antonosika "avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade" << what;s this mean ?
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 you ever read up on the fabulous adventure of teh rota ?
assbot: Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I deem that ethereum will trade in 100 btc in one year, but in the chance that it does not I have an infinite loss of capital (which is a lot since I dont have much).
antonosika: well purpose is that you buy eth cheaply in one year though...
mircea_popescu: the purpose is to gain exposure to eth. you can't have the exposure without the exposure.
antonosika: how about you donate the 3 btc to something nice if contract fails ?
mircea_popescu: i donate to whatever the hell i feel like with or without that contract lol
rybro: tell me eth is ethanol and not ethereum
antonosika: Ehum I want to make deals with nice people.
rybro: seems like they do cool stuff by why so shady
mircea_popescu: because they only claim to do cool stuff. anyone can claim to do cool stuff.
antonosika: I deposit 3 btc to you. Isn't it fair that we decide something nice that happens with it if there is a large delay of ETH currency?
mircea_popescu: antonosika that approach to business will ensure you'll squander whatever little capital you have.
antonosika: Smart people have good values, so If you have a good suggestion of what to donate my btc to I would regard you as smarter
mircea_popescu: "nice" people are rarely worth the price of a decent burial, clothes included, and i very much doubt they ever should be.
antonosika: I'm really interested, what is your philosophy on life?
rybro: total logical fallacy man, unless you define what 'good' people are for all parties involved there are definitely going to be differences in opinion on what a 'good' person is and what a good action is on their part
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rybro: everyone is too brainwashed to have principles anyway
mircea_popescu: antonosika my philosophy in life is that all ills arise from people like you having any money and any voice, basically.
mircea_popescu: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.
rybro: wouldn't nice be just as subjective as good ?
mircea_popescu: good is a matter of reason at least to some degree. nice is pure sensata crapolade.
BlueMeanie4: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.< we also have another phrase , getting 'Gypped'
mircea_popescu: a point established by considering that one has to reason to discover the good, whereas one just "feels" the nice. which approach is exactly why nice rather than good, why all that intellectual effort
rybro: all i can think of is susan korman and that pink ribbon breast cancer thing
antonosika: mircea_popescu: My approach is definitely not "feels good" nice
antonosika: mircea_popescu: But, do you have a definition of deeds that are the opposite of ill?
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it's not necessarily defined, but to me gypped is the inverse process : when some lout appropriates capital he shouldn't have.
assbot: Some basic discussion of charity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
antonosika: I would not donate to charity. But anyhow, if you deem some things as ill (such as charity) some people do things that are not ill (like you for example?) what would such deeds be?
mircea_popescu: "Media coverage of new technologies is always governed by an inexorable cycle: First comes the hyping, then comes the trashing. Of late, the Net has so accelerated this cycle that the trashing kicks in well before the hype has stopped — sometimes creating a conflict of views that looks suspiciously like genuine debate."
assbot: Let's Get This Straight: March 1997 archives - Salon.com
mircea_popescu: antonosika you generally can't expect a summary of such things be presented to you on demand. there's about 2 years worth of logs here and >5 of trilema articles, you'll have to go through all that to find your own answer.
mircea_popescu: As companies like Pointcast, Marimba’s Castanet, Backweb, Intermind and others flock to seize “push” market-share, they have been feted by the business press, welcomed by media companies who hope “push” will help them make money, even lauded by Wired magazine as “the radical future of media beyond the Web.” <<< all winners :D
mircea_popescu: In August 1998, PointCast found such a partner. In order to compete with @Home, a consortium of telephone companies and Microsoft put together a project designed to promote use of DSL in preference to cable modems. <<< has there EVER been a technology battle where ms fell on the right side ?
antonosika: Well you said that it would be better if I had no money or voice since I will never do anything good. It feels like that gives a rather strict definition of good.
antonosika: If I read logs or articles I don't know what things have any "value" and what are just writings.
mircea_popescu: well this problem is chiefly reflective of you not having done a lot of it yet.
antonosika: At least your philosphy doesnt sound like nihilism
mircea_popescu: you can't start by doing good. you start by doing work, a lot of it, then you see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, a complete collection of grabbe would probably be useful at this point. he doesn't seem to have any web exposure.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Anyways, one thought on doing more good is to make it easier for those naive souls (as myself) who want to understand to learn.
antonosika: But at least I can do business with you.
BitMarmot: I am also a USG_Press_Machine from time to time
fluffypony: antonosika: just send me your private key
mircea_popescu: antonosika you don't have to sign it, if you pay it stands.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot usg press machine was a better nick. this bitblabla stuff is a cancer.
BitMarmot: agreed, but I figured the marmot peg was the best way to illustrate the sheer stupidity of what was going on with BTSX
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's not being dumb, it's being absent
BitMarmot: Of everything I've written I figured MP probably approved of my most recent work the most
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antonosika: mircea_popescu: Is there a way for me to show that I paid?
mircea_popescu: "wait a tick, wait a tick... i will not ruin this sketch for a pound"
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mircea_popescu: antonosika well if a payment as specified makes it to the address specified before time specified, you have.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot myeah. the many advantages for the general public of the sec demuring instead of taking its fucking place in the world.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i will definitely push for prosecution of the current set of sec comissioners for having failed to take the hand i extended to them last year.
BitMarmot: I mean, I don't exactly look forward to the day seeing as I'm meant to be hanged
BitMarmot: But apparently I am not beyond saving
BitMarmot: ben_vulpes:danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause
BlueMeanie4: I think the SEC is aware of what Vitalik and Bitshares are doing, but theyre biding their time
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 if you id with gribble and pm assbot !up you can just up yourself.
BlueMeanie4: its pretty clear that Ethereum and Bitshares were fundraisers
BlueMeanie4: and i really appreciate your points in that article BitMarmot
BitMarmot: Thanks BlueMeanie4 - I do this for a living so looked at BitShares for 20 minutes and was like, "does not compute"
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking outrage is what it is. basically vitalik saw the neobee fuckwit buy a ferrari or whatever it was, went out of his mind and well... "if x can steal why shouldn't i"
mircea_popescu: which is what's wrong with "biding their time" idiocies.
BlueMeanie4: I just know the people involved and I didnt even bother running the numbers, I already know the answer
BitMarmot: Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often
antonosika: why doesn't mircea_popescu get identified by ;;ident ?
gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- those guys are notorious for faking things like sales numbers and web stats
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
antonosika: mircea_popescu: will you confirm that the contract holds when you get the payment?
gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.
antonosika: Public confirmation of that a contract holds
BlueMeanie4: I even recall the early bitshares stuff on btt, it was pure idiocy
mircea_popescu: i already did dood. in between that pastebin and a blockchain read you have incontrovertible proof.
BlueMeanie4: although I cant confirm that the current concept bears any resemblance to those early ideas
antonosika: Why cant u just argue that that is another transaction?
BingoBoingo: BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2014 10:50:07; mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.
BlueMeanie4: we have something like a marmot in the rocky mountains. its similar to a mountain-hamster
BitMarmot: A friend of mine tells me the tale of a marmot called Grey Beard
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot "I don’t like or approve of token pre-sales and I never will." << whatr's this mean ?
BitMarmot: He would cast a curse on any campers at the camp who harassed local wildlife
BitMarmot: Mircea_Popescu exactly what it says
mircea_popescu: also get out of this habit of using the same title on different dates for different articles. it's breadspread insanity.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot it doesn't say so much cause "token pre-sales" isn't reallyt a term of art.
BlueMeanie4: that sounds like the scene from Monty Python holy Grail
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- allocate at least an hour to get through the WOT process
BitMarmot: i.e. it's not really an improvement
BitMarmot: If someone came up with a chain which was awesome
antonosika: What does it mean that assignments are integral?
BitMarmot: they wouldn't need to presell because they'd make their money mining the crap out of it
mircea_popescu: antonosika that you can't give sue 1.5 btc and mary 1.5 btc of your load. gotta pick a girl blow the whole load on her.
BitMarmot: fact is, most alt chains aren't that big a deal/that different from BTC to merit existence
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atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1636.67 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
mircea_popescu: ok, "I look at BitSharesX and I see a group of talented" << what do you mean by talented then.
BlueMeanie4: i was reading larimers babbling on btt - his ideas are idiotic
antonosika: mircea_popescu: thanks for making it so clear.
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BitMarmot: Let me put it this way - I wanted to play the ball rather than the programmer
mircea_popescu: gotta cut amateurs slack re finance, somehow everyone got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin.
BlueMeanie4: he wanted to peg the value of assets to some 'market value' - it was utter nonsense
BlueMeanie4: got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin. < a lot of that goes on for sure
mircea_popescu: but generally, you can distinguish they don't know wtf they're talking about on terminology, and just discard that and see if they're basically honest or not. at least it's my approach.
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- of course he doesnt want to program it- i makes ZERO sense!
BlueMeanie4: that was basically my thought when I bothered to read his nonsense writings
BitMarmot: I just don't like going after people personally - I'd rather discuss the issues
BlueMeanie4: 'if this guy is going to code this then great for him'
BlueMeanie4: of course he defers that small job to someone else
BitMarmot: Even if the writings are nonsense, go after the writings, not the person who wrote them
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot that's fine, but you know if you call someone something, whether it's "talented" or "whore" or anything, i may well ask you well, how did you find this and how could i verify for myself.
BitMarmot: mircea_popescu all of god's creatures are special
mircea_popescu: oh get out. unless they taste like vanilla they go right into the stu.
BlueMeanie4: to a degree- if someone is repeatedly trying to draw attention to themselves by whoring around every buzzword and they do it repeatedly then pull a PRESALE- thats when you start questioning someone's motives
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BitMarmot: I go on what I can prove. If I can't prove it, I figure no harm in being polite
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot if politeness has degraded to the point you gotta call someone talented just to remain polite i dun want any part of it.
BlueMeanie4: yes but eventually the emporer wears no clothe
antonosika: Im about to agree to a contract that stands if I deposit 3 btc to mircea_popescu (with the blockchain as security). Can someone tell me that this is a smart procedure?
antonosika: the btc could come from someone else depositing at the same time.
BitMarmot: mircea_popescu differences in approach, as you know we have. nm indeed
mircea_popescu: antonosika it'd still credit you. so they'd be suckers for doing it, but their problem.
BlueMeanie4: eventually people value candor above all else
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 not all people, no. if people valued candor there'd be a blowout sale on penis aids.
mircea_popescu: there's lines of work where honesty is the worst policy.
antonosika: But this isn't specified in the contract. Only "the long holder shall deposit"
mircea_popescu: antonosika you gotta understand how the legal mind works. you have a beneficial presumption therein embedded.
BitMarmot: BlueMeanie4 I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on character, but go ruthless on the facts
BitMarmot: brb. Just having fun, I enjoy writing.
BlueMeanie4: ya I really appreciated that article, but when you watch someone pull this sort of stuff time and time again- it's hard not to get personal
antonosika: mircea_popescu: can someone else vouch for this ?
mircea_popescu: well for a coupla years there was this hot chick on the forum beating the shit out of the innumerable, meanwhile forgotten scammers.
BlueMeanie4: the thing i always look for- they always have an alternative career
antonosika: ill deposit if you reformulate the contract
BlueMeanie4: theyre a 'musician' or a 'pick up artist' or 'author' or some crap
mircea_popescu: just one of the many ways mpex wrote teh history of bitcoin that nobody knows about because well... history is hard work.
mircea_popescu: that's funny, i remember the days "anonymous" used to be an insult.
BlueMeanie4: do you know how many of these 'celebrated' bitcoin experts have some lame background like this?
BlueMeanie4: this doesnt appear to bother the 18 year olds who just bought 2 grand worth of magic beans
antonosika: mircea_popescu: starting a contract by only seeing a random transaction in the blockchain is dodgy as hell
antonosika: random as in not specified where it is from
antonosika: easy to argue that it is not from the long party
mircea_popescu: yes, but also toothless. doesn't matter where it's from.
antonosika: So why not just write " 3.00001 BTC shall be deposited no later than August 31st to ..."
BingoBoingo: Long Party: YOu are perfectly free to save your own copy of MP's signed contract and sign it your self.
antonosika: BingoBoingo: the problem is that it is possible to argue that the deposit was not from the long party
☟︎ mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well that's why i gave you that rota reference. nobody o.O after the attempt at a public court thing failed miserably.
antonosika: BingoBoingo: who would be correct in such an argument?
BingoBoingo: antonosika: Well if it came from another party that would mean someone else just subsidized the Long Party's purchase
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot here's the problem. your effort at being polite has resulted in 2+6k words, in which the idiot in question is arguing he's right.
antonosika: Thanks bingo, i just wanted this legal language verified by someone else to seem less dogy
BitMarmot: None immediately. It's a long game
mircea_popescu: heh. "your penis is too long to fit any woman, so how do you propose to reproduce ?" "not immediately, waiting for it to grow more."
mircea_popescu: (im not saying working is bad, it's not. the reason it's good however is that it allows such problems to be discussed)
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antonosika: last thing, will you check the blockchain and confirm in this chat that you saw the 3.0001 BTC ?
BitMarmot: Judging from the hits though my point got across without hitting the man
mircea_popescu: i didn't even pick the right phrase. should have used rickles' "he's making a loss on every sale but hopes to make it up on volume"
BitMarmot: so ultimately you get done what needs to get done without alienating anyone
BitMarmot: Be of no doubt, I am overawed by your approach to polemic. But I suspect I probably wouldn't get away with it
BitMarmot: No, just not giving a damn what other people think
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll be happy with the outcome of this contract either way, nice to learn new things with you crazy fucks around here.
BingoBoingo: antonosika: Sitting around here and having access to every one in the chan's input is an effect IQ boost
mircea_popescu: antonosika anyway, the last clause is there specifically to allow you to limit your risk as you can make me a settlement offer later on and who knows, i might take it.
mircea_popescu: (for that matter, it's good policy / common courtest to see if i don't want to overbid in case you're considering assignment)
ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea //// Before you know it your website will be all "10 Wacky Interesting Things You Never Knew About Marmots"
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll keep my fingers crossed then.
BitMarmot: They're goofy, largely benign troublemaker
BitMarmot: What, MP doesn't have a spirit animal?
mircea_popescu: precise, fucking dangerous mind-your-own-business law enforcer type.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> therealaltcoin, ThickAsThieves' scamcoin. /// it's more of a scamcoin assimiliation phenomenon!
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 if slime molds are animals ima make buenos aires my spirit animal.
mircea_popescu: it's not even genetically coherent for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: yes but they're not animals. they're colonies of animals. like a town.
BlueMeanie4: well occasionally they go from being a colony to forming into a creature that gets up and moves
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how woud you go about recouping all this guy's usenet stuff ?
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gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: ahh people's assumptions are such a great boon to internet humor. so i go on this blog and butthurt people, everyone assumes that since i speak the language i also live there, it's rioutous.
gribble: Nick 'BlueMeanie4', with hostmask 'BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 listen : ident with gribble, let's walk you through this self upping thing.
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when assigning a key to a bot, what is a good way to allow the bot to access it? is a passphrase even practical?
thestringpuller: yea. that's what I've been looking into, do you think it's legit though?
thestringpuller: if bot and key are on same machine, bot daemon can just run gpg agent as a daemon...