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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform she had to buy http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/#selection-311.1-311.71 (which she did, and which apparently also comes as bars!)
trinque: since its set up to have classical gentoo portage as "just another repo" I haven't had a single problem with building things that aren't yet vpatch-ebuilds
asciilifeform cannot help but picture a 'whiskeria' as 1 of those cafes where you rent cats by the hour...
BingoBoingo: Maybe he wasn't used to the hookers being as coy as they are here? He never got specific
asciilifeform: folx sending 'earnest solicitation' via spammail exist on same planet as 'herbal impotence cure' etc
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know, even in commie time, they had more sense than this latino same hour idiocy. i distinctly recall various large factory bosses in cluj agreeing how to interleave their hours so as to not jampack the conveyances
asciilifeform: ( currently it's, as i understand, sumthing like lenin's 'troikas' of 1918 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of which, local uni fishwrap ( of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-04#1857886 'fame' ) is all on fire with whine re trump, supposedly, threatening to enforce 'frat d00dz accused of 'rape' must get to cross-examine accuser' as condition of the usg funding of nobody-wants-to-watch gurl sports (apparently they're 100% usg-sponsored) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( as there was not in su, outside of 'brezhnev is driving and taking up five streets' days in moscow )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i am willing to swear no traffic systems work as intended in any orcistan. << Walking back from the place where rent is paid, there was ancient looking sad bus with police escort. Another U-17 female soccer team. First bus I have seen with police escort.
mircea_popescu: i am willing to swear no traffic systems work as intended in any orcistan.
mircea_popescu: "as it works -- so it was intended to work"
asciilifeform: there's a reason i picked traffic light as example -- yes you can buy replacement parts from chinese, but to keep traffic actually moving requires at least 1 d00d in a cellar somewhere with an elementary understanding of impedance , graduated from diff eq kindergarten, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 17:48 asciilifeform: in 1966! already known! that secretute at terminal means , inescapably as lead poisoning , 'net of elizas'
mircea_popescu: i tend to diagnose this by simple measures such as "well, i published x and y, and then 0.k% of sample is aware of both x and y" sorta thing. vast majority of "linkiedin contacts" of miss piggy have yet to see miss piggy article, vast majority of other side have yet to conceptualize "oh, what do you mean OUT IN THE OPEN", and then there's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873320 stuff, with all the pics sitting right the fuc ☝︎
asciilifeform: can kek, but asciilifeform is not a strategist, but only master of proviant, as it currently stands, and would be dangerously out of his depth if were to 'hey BingoBoingo, let's x , y, and z '
mircea_popescu: this for the practical. the theoretical still stands as well : bitcoin valuation in any other currency will fluctuate, because new cunts come out of the skirts every day and they have to be sorted somehow.
asciilifeform doesn't dispute mircea_popescu's model, as such, but would be surprised if propagation were instantaneous
mircea_popescu: "singing" in this manner isn't nearly trivial, which is why say dogs don't do it. dogs do all sorts of things, but understanding glass as a system to the degree needed here is rather tall a fence.
asciilifeform: if 'a' and 'b' are in a 'trench warfare' situation where neither has decisive advantage and can slaughter the other, their interaction will form dynamic system, and oscillate ( as the wolf and the hare taught in diff eq kindergarten )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, but that requires a few joules kinetic and a few terrabytes gnoseologic. as in your quote with "needed dollar to turn screw and million to know whcih one"
asciilifeform: my picture was slightly different tho : consider how you can break a pane of glass with a few joules , that normally would not even be felt on other side, if pumped into it with minimal impedance mismatch (i.e. on resonant phase). as in the famous opera singer trick.
mircea_popescu: and i dispute natural (and necessary) fluctuation can ~in principle~ serve as indication in that direction.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: given as you read my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 ( and then invited asciilifeform to party consequently ) you prolly know that asciilifeform is not fixated on magic 'fair'
asciilifeform: i dun have a perpetuum mobile in my pocket, 'here's how'. simply pointing out that ( as mircea_popescu wrote on his www looong before i tuned in ) 'tard with gigantic bag of dough can wreck whole planets' , and that today this role is played by usg rather than gaggle of free range forumtards
mircea_popescu: hey, venerable sexuate reproduction worked well for all these years. every fifteen year old has a "secret" to share that's as unsecret as unsecrets can ever be.
asciilifeform: the imho misfortunate bit, is that for so long as they can http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782156 the waterfall, they actually ~have~ what to 'pssst, tell ya a valuable seekrit' to favoured orcs ☝︎
asciilifeform: who somehow still have btc, into trading it for shitcoins. this last one seems to be the current flagship algo. working, as i understand, surprisingly well, monerism, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 14:31 mircea_popescu: for as long as only slanty eyes has horses, all horse races however drafted will have their fucking horses winning.
asciilifeform: in 1966! already known! that secretute at terminal means , inescapably as lead poisoning , 'net of elizas' ☟︎
asciilifeform: and even nao that we have a 'the net' that consists to five-nines % of elizas and meat-elizas, even now one will still find the story in schoolbooks as 'great advance of ai' rather than 'great fathom of the sheer depth of meat puppet idjicy'
mircea_popescu: kinda as signature-y as the dum-dudum sound of trained shooter with ak-47
asciilifeform: given as it was vps, dollars to doughnuts 'agent dickweed' was trying out a standard xyzbleed-powered vm escape, and hosed buncha processes, incl. trinque's
trinque: this is a piece of shit vps on a service called vultr. the thing was being used as little more than a web-toilet which other services elsewhere use.
mircea_popescu: can definitely count as "secret supoena" bs, by my lights. what dc was it ?
mircea_popescu: what portion of teh 25% drop in bitcoin value in fiat have you managed to capture as notional pizarro stock appreciation ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense of what, after usg took overt the piggy it declared some clients as principal victims ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 02:12 mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2018/11/forkcoin-that-split-from-bitcoin-now-struck-by-contentious-hardfork/#comment-120500 << srsly the usg tards are pushing that wright imbecile as their spearhead ? what, nobody thinking left in the "think" fishtanks ?!
asciilifeform went as far as building a new box, with 3d card etc, to 'i'ma finally play that thing', then... realized he gotta write a numeric lib
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:43 asciilifeform: maybe in the end entire planet will end up as vertically-integrated suppliers for s.mg...
mircea_popescu: or i suppose construction crew better example. if you issue them pickaxes, you can at the end of the day look at damage "as men with pickaxes could have produced". if you issue backhoe...
mircea_popescu: judging by how unsure all participants are as to contents, it seems evident to me it worked exactly like github program, ie "crapola glommed to end erry day and random shit changed deeper inside at impredictable intervals we might remember or not".
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 22:41 asciilifeform: arguably v is a labour-saving device ~specifically for readers~, rather than writers, of programs -- if we were passing signed tarballs around, as we did prior to v, reader would be stuck determining exactly what changed, after manually verifying sig.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2018/11/forkcoin-that-split-from-bitcoin-now-struck-by-contentious-hardfork/#comment-120500 << srsly the usg tards are pushing that wright imbecile as their spearhead ? what, nobody thinking left in the "think" fishtanks ?! ☟︎
asciilifeform: maybe in the end entire planet will end up as vertically-integrated suppliers for s.mg... ☟︎
asciilifeform: given as i'd have to release N almost-completely-identical patches each time i release a chapter
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 23:03 asciilifeform: bvt: if you understand why bitcoin does not tolerate 'yes i'm on the same chain as you! except that i flipped a single bit in block 100, and really, honestly, nuffin ever depended on the tx where i flipped it!' -- you will also understand why v does not tolerate this either
asciilifeform: bvt: if you understand why bitcoin does not tolerate 'yes i'm on the same chain as you! except that i flipped a single bit in block 100, and really, honestly, nuffin ever depended on the tx where i flipped it!' -- you will also understand why v does not tolerate this either ☟︎
asciilifeform: v is just about exactly same thing as bitcoin's chain, with the difference that it seals with manually-crafted operator signatures, rather than 'proof of work' gymnastics
asciilifeform: bvt: it's in fact exactly the same thing that e.g. bitcoin does -- you cannot go back and flip a bit in block 100, and expect to be on the same chain as other folx, it'll correctly invalidate 101--present from your node's pov ( and your entire existence from other's pov )
asciilifeform: to put it in mircea_popescuine terminology -- the scenario that v makes specifically and rightfully impossible is 'hey, i changed 'wife' to 'dog' in your marriage contract, but yer still just as married, you signed all the downstreams'
asciilifeform: arguably v is a labour-saving device ~specifically for readers~, rather than writers, of programs -- if we were passing signed tarballs around, as we did prior to v, reader would be stuck determining exactly what changed, after manually verifying sig. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873666 << much of what seems to n00bs as 'unnatural acrobatics' in vtronics is in fact the actual and inevitable cost of writing proggies ~honestly~ -- i.e. without pretending, as the heathens do, that 'i only changed this one little thing, whatddayamean it's a new program now' ☝︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, read on, not as if recommended for the task, no
asciilifeform: diana_coman: consider, if i'd done 'api first' for udp, would have ended up with ~same thing as ave1's hairball, i.e. 'just like gnat.sockets but maybe slightly less sad'
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 20:45 bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873573 << i will have to think more about vtree organization. if i use api as the foundation for the tree, adding new system calls would cause regrind; in this case, the api should be complete from day one.
diana_coman: keeping the trees in sync is probably cheaper than regrinding the whole thing anyway; and if /when it's not, then...regrind it as a single tree and that's that
diana_coman: bvt, precisely because it can't be fully clear in advance I'd suggest to choose the more flexible v-structure rather than something with set in stone requirements (such as API as root of the v tree sort of thing); this is NOT to say or guarantee you won't regrind but simply to not make ~surely needed
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873573 << i will have to think more about vtree organization. if i use api as the foundation for the tree, adding new system calls would cause regrind; in this case, the api should be complete from day one. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly tale is as old as pig-keepin'.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 14:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702759 << eventually this will necessarily happen, yes. "segwit" transactions are stored on the bitcoin network as "anyone can spend", so eventually miners will unroll the segwit chain. how soon is not easily predicted (which is why the idea is stupid/usg-like, introduces impredictability in the currency)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ftr i still dun have anything like a working hypothesis re why the miners let segshitness live for as long as it has
asciilifeform: mod6: errything well, ( tho asciilifeform as always during weekdays is knee deep in heathen rubbish )
mod6: I won't speak for BingoBoingo as to why his ledger copy does not show the 0.1 BTC sent from me to him, and then back from him to me. I'll let him speak to that.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-19 05:30 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why does mod6's ledger show a transaction for 0.1 btc to you on august 12th and then back from you on august 17th? it doesn't affect the accounting, but i am perplexed as you both stated that your ledgers in these shared notes contained all of your pizarro transactions with noted exceptions that do not include that transaction.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873556 << As for this, BingoBoingo began doing a cut-down of the notes file, so more recent editions have not had older-months notes contained. I have went back and found the notes around the 0.1 BTC sent between us from august. Here is that specific snippit: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CEgRj/?raw=true ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i believe this report settles the reported discrepancies. i will have to respond to queries asynchronously, as i'm traveling for the next week.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why does mod6's ledger show a transaction for 0.1 btc to you on august 12th and then back from you on august 17th? it doesn't affect the accounting, but i am perplexed as you both stated that your ledgers in these shared notes contained all of your pizarro transactions with noted exceptions that do not include that transaction. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll give it a play with as I work through more punch list items
mircea_popescu: mod6 that's fine and dandy, but look how the logic works : 1) the republic exists principally as a succession of schelling points, meaning that "given a situation of structure X, republican will land on selection y" ; 2) the impression is hard to shake that with ~extreme regularity~ your landing diverges from that y, and in specific ways. which leads to 3) somehow mod6 ended up mentally at odds with the fundamentals of tmsr,
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 21:03 mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know. ☟︎
mod6: "Let's show what we're filtering out as well:", to which this tx, amount, and date appear:
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may. there's ~nothing of interest to you here, so you can just safely forget about it.
mircea_popescu: which is i guess an ok strategy, both for the http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/ fucktards as well as for the sirius/vandroyi/whatever-style "i am disgusted with you morons" autists.
mircea_popescu: "echelon hi, i need to read a structured spreadsheet type of file that's in binary, basically involves reading the record which is the header information as to how the records are structured, and then reading the records. how would i go about doing this?" and so on ad infinitum.
mircea_popescu: in that obvious is just as obvious as any other obvious.
mircea_popescu: bullcosby suppose you just read all of trilema as a goodboi, and let it change what you are, rather than expect you're important enough for your malformed desires to be gratified.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cannot speak as expert, but as i understand -- not only will new coat not be anything like the orig coat, destroyed by owner's stupidity, but sewn coat will not correct the problem that resulted in needing new
mircea_popescu: the articulation of the comparison is (brains as in w/e makes males valuable) vs (whatever makes females valuable). as a gender construct.
asciilifeform: as i understand, this one is moar re the third path, i.e. search for working brains in the wild
asciilifeform: i expect they mix coffee for a living there just as here
mircea_popescu: ellajanex 23F Undecided "You wrote a whole message in the header? I can’t even read that shit." LordMPofTMSR "Think of it as an intelligence test. That you're failing." ellajanex "I’m out of school i don’t need tests or games lmao" << there, might that substitute ?
mircea_popescu: good fucking thing these morons "progress&civil rights for women". because totally, living in a concrete box @"the beautiful" as a sex slave so much beats being a 1950s housewife
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i certainly will on both points, although not tonight. i don't see sticking subscriptions into a db as a particularly difficult thing at all.
asciilifeform picture mircea_popescu picking mushrooms in forest. mushroom : 'very ballsy of you, to pick me from ground' mp: 'wtf, why is mushroom talking' mushroom : 'as a self-respecting forest dweller, you should know that you should not pick someone without permission' mp: 'wtf, you are a fungus' fungus : 'i will not submit, you do not interest me!' etc
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 00:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'bigendian box' -- i invested in one of them 'asic emulator' mega-fpga thingies, it so happens to come with 2 ppc cores on board, can double as bigendism test system.
asciilifeform: hardwarizable ( in the manner discussed by mircea_popescu ) also, as 'phree' side effect of the constant-spacetime. but this is yet embryonic.
asciilifeform: ( nitpicks from mircea_popescu & other mathematical folk, welcome as always )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-17 01:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872289 << not true, eats postgres as well.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-15#1872289 << not true, eats postgres as well. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ffa/p-tron as a dos boot disk would imho rock.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
asciilifeform: i use preconditions, for instance, and they only work as written with ada2012
phf: as in good luck with that
phf: i'd imagine there's gnat as part of djgpp, probably already prebuilt
asciilifeform: ( if yer writing even so much as a tetris, even on dos box you needed a bit more than simply fb to do it without 'tearing', you need some way to insta-flip the 'pages' , possibly ioctl ? )
phf: i've been using the asus as kind of netbook, i'm generally pleased with it *not* having x
asciilifeform: ( would specify the iron address, and run as root ?? )
asciilifeform: ( uses system.address internally to turn yer mmap into a 100% transparent 'as if you had declared it on stack' variable that is backed to/from disk via mmap )