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mircea_popescu: phf yo log died
mod6: phf: thx, will investigate.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 14:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450068 << http://btcbase.org/log-raw/
asciilifeform: phf made a very spiffy logtron
asciilifeform: (though phf recently did some interesting experimentation with shiva, iirc)
trinque: phf: neat, thanks
trinque: phf: what'd you end up changing in that ping/pong code?
mircea_popescu: phf i know from experience pretty much EVERY escort, even those who charge 1-2-5k to corporate accounts, actually work for 1-200 ish.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 23:07 phf: fwiw gtk has been compromising x for year, that's where "remote x is useless" misconception comes from. you can run x emacs on a dialup even (i was doing it on dsl in the early 2000s), but of course running any kind of gtk app fails miserably, because library pushes gratuitous (and unoptimizable by simple RLE) gradients across wire just to render a button.
asciilifeform: phf: ah
asciilifeform: <phf> asciilifeform: unmodified linux ~binaries~? << no, built locally. but unmodified SOURCES
asciilifeform: phf: i beg to differ- i had not only x11 built under cygwin long ago (at usg gig!) but ratpoison, firefox, 1,001 unmodified linux proggies
mats: phf: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspace-for-windows-developers
asciilifeform: phf: even gtk apps work fine on gigabit lan
mircea_popescu: phf very much so aha.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 22:36 phf: speaking of walls and x11, i walked into a comment section of some "game ported to linux" post. guy opted for native xlib/opengl, so he got a wall full of "x11 is deprecated, everyone's moving to wayland, use sdl2". ironically in the post itself he says " when searching for answers to questions that weren’t made quite clear in the documentation, often people that had the same questions I did received answers like ‘Use SDL’, or ‘Use GTK
mircea_popescu: phf right ?
ben_vulpes: phf: just gets cooler and cooler
asciilifeform: phf: the one where the logs url should behave sanely, i.e. not redirect to anything but to ~always~ point to the head of the log
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf didja ever make a bookmarkable log url thing ?
asciilifeform: phf: i can actually get behind 'thing needs its ~own~ scheduler, ip stack, nic driver...'
mircea_popescu: lol check out phf with his newly found "fu because battlefield" rhetoric :D
asciilifeform: phf: aha, commonlisp is unfriendly to the notion of an 'exe' in general
asciilifeform: phf: it'd have to be something like sbcl's 'save-lisp-and-die'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 14:46 phf: by day to day i mean non-lisp stuff, but yeah, even taking that thing live revealed a lot of annoyances in cmucl (asciilifeform will say told you so)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450461 << phf remind me again what the hell the up-side of cmucl was ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf word. goes back to my comment re lisp and rl that nearly started a crusade :D
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 09:50 mircea_popescu: incidentally phf is there a log bundle for download somewhere ?
deedbot: felipelalli rated phf 3 << "Lisper. He's also very polite and respectful. :D"
felipelalli: $rate phf 3 "Lisper. He's also very polite and respectful. :D"
mod6: pretty neat little chart there phf
felipelalli: nice! thank you phf .
felipelalli: $gettrust phf
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user phf: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=phf | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=phf | Rated since: Thu Jan 2 22:27:02 2014
felipelalli: !gettrust phf
mircea_popescu: phf who's morty.
mircea_popescu: phf> for the good of the country and our fellow law abiding countrymen << and unrelatedly and no doubt very insignificantly, ALSO for lack of any dudes that can be arsed to kill.
asciilifeform: l0l phf
asciilifeform: phf: the 'idiot mode' thing is a clanging cymbal to distract reader from the brick-in-your-face-obvious fact that nsa et al openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work and are shedding the pretense of 'defense against foreign devils'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:50 phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
mircea_popescu: incidentally phf is there a log bundle for download somewhere ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf Химки
mircea_popescu: phf what's the moscow equivalent of bakersfield ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:47 phf: there's nothing that makes an open office like that an inherently bad idea. i'm sure before it turned into a nasty cost saving fad, a group of people could assemble for a period of time and in such a space so as to successfully deliver. it just that the model now stands for shit jobs, because that's the only jobs easily accessible in failing economies. a shit job is not going to be made better by a wfh
adlai suddenly satoris republican humor as well! thx phf
gernika: aha phf I meant I wouldn't recommend working in san francisco
BingoBoingo: phf: I'm pretty sure if someone attempts that an avatar of physics becomes incarnate, personally finds the person doing that and delivers a swift kick in the crotch.
deedbot: adlai rated phf 2 << blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
adlai: $rate phf 2 blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
asciilifeform: phf: quite
jurov: phf, yes
deedbot: shinohai rated phf 1 << Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
shinohai: $rate phf 1 Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
ben_vulpes: (phf: mega thanks for the inline loggurgitation)
mircea_popescu: phf same here.
asciilifeform: phf: difficult on pNohe etc
asciilifeform: ty phf
asciilifeform: phf: no good. it turns into a specific date
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 14:55 asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf can haz bookmarkable url that points to tip of the logz plox ?
mircea_popescu: win phf ty.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:51 mircea_popescu: also, who was doing what so i can see the log line read in chat ? this is starting to drive me nuts. trinque ? phf ?
mircea_popescu: phf why would they ?
mircea_popescu: phf alrighty.
mircea_popescu: also, who was doing what so i can see the log line read in chat ? this is starting to drive me nuts. trinque ? phf ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, so i suppose in the "blogs that must be", we have "adlai - views from inside the insane asylum" and "phf - they have philosophy in russia even!"
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf can haz bookmarkable url that points to tip of the logz plox ? ☟︎
jurov: phf just an idea: if someone comes up with a completely new (or very rare) word like the w-tron above, use it to link to previous convo?
adlai: phf, trinque: either/both of y'all may be interested in https://github.com/adlai/scalpl/commit/019c10d (specific patch, rest of repo is relevant only to archaeologists)
mircea_popescu: hey phf, can i get you to log into eulora for an hour ? i need a noob to do a bouq click to see what comes out.
asciilifeform: phf: meta-nsa relaxes and smokes in the corner, it doesn't need keys, sends magic udp
asciilifeform: phf: l0l!
mircea_popescu: phf croak != cloak
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448857 << he has a point i think ; while the semantic content of links may perhaps be argued in that way phf , seeing how for instance redirects are honored etc ; nevertheless can't simply hijack people's links. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf i bet you the reason ghetto beats regexp is that regexp is horribly implemented in w/e you use.
mircea_popescu: phf this sounds to me a lot like "we'll build actual programming language on top of this approximating processor thing".
asciilifeform: phf is a winner!
asciilifeform: phf: how does 'move to argentina and do cash' work on folks who ain't already rich
jurov: phf: yup
jurov: phf so patching urls is okay?
jurov: phf: it can be soved by other ways then having different host in the label and href
jurov: phf that's separate issue
mircea_popescu: btw phf you gonna document what the little blue graph on top of pages even is ?
jurov: phf ^
asciilifeform: phf: it is also handy waterfall legend
pete_dushenski: phf: if the sale of a bitcoin company for 250k btc didn't get mentioned, a measly 86 btc sale doesn't stand much chance of crossing the lips of the peeple
mircea_popescu: phf they mostly get mentioned derisively, tho. it's a sort of templeos/timecube/whatever, they got their alt-reality, sticking to it, nothing happens in it, etc.
mircea_popescu: phf some of that could be unresolved netsplits ?
mircea_popescu: btw phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1447752 is actuallyt trivially checked, i have the logs of when it dc'd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: it is my intention to bring this back, full bore.
asciilifeform: phf: this remains the only practical thing.
mircea_popescu: phf the greeks notably thought they can build things, because they know "the actual value of pi"
mircea_popescu: phf aha.
mircea_popescu: phf worse that that, utterly undermines the fundamental reason against many things we supposedly argue against fundamentally.
mircea_popescu: phf me either.
asciilifeform: phf: ENTIRELY different applications. tinyscheme was suggested SPECIFICALLY for embedding in large cpp program with ~tiny~ loc budget
asciilifeform: phf: afaik there still are none!
asciilifeform: phf: actually i don't much enjoy ada
mircea_popescu: phf bout five years.
mircea_popescu: hm. hey phf : http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22localize+that%22 vs http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1189592 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: kik yup phf