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asciilifeform: !!rate nicoleci 1 mircea_popescu's pupil; log summaries
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 16:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand re the engineers point
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> asciilifeform in the girl's own words, "only interested in their being right". -> is this re her summaries being right or what?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, how does she evaluate if they are right?
mircea_popescu: but yes, on spotcheck she could produce long form of ftp and deduce long form for isp out of "- mircea_popescu suspects that iptables is like php implementation of ftp - most people do not have their own isp"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand re the engineers point ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a great experiment, and imho entirely possible that the horse will eventually learn to sing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun disagree.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma leave it there, after all the chix is yer student, not mine
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 16:51 mircea_popescu: also, a) gotta start somewhere ; b) she's not working to impress you, she's working to impress me, meaning your only productive stance is "not like that, like ~this~" rather than "your work doesn't make the cut".
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun like to discourage folx, esp. mircea_popescu's pupil, who is evidently pouring sweat into the job. but i expected the items would get better with time, and imho so far they haven't ☟︎
asciilifeform: oh hey, guten morgen, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: i dun even disagree with mircea_popescu's 'if it's still alive, it oughta be reground' item. but at the very least oughta be able to read the old trees with new tool and determine that somebody's regrind is actually bit-identical to the original, without burning several days per instance
diana_coman: anyways, will wait for mircea_popescu to weigh in on this too; atm I still need to set up the main stuff and then those are params to adjust/set as required
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what's going on is that asciilifeform has buncha boxen with old tooling, and also tends to rely on mircea_popescu to proclaim 'let's nao new format'
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't get it: are you saying you need mircea_popescu to officially declare it something or the other or what?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and if there was a moment in the l0gz where mircea_popescu proclaimed 'hey this is out of beta, errybody plox to retire the classical vtrons' -- i missed it? plox to link.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:06 mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ?
a111: Logged on 2014-03-20 14:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'cum se suge pula' << can't help but associate this in my head with the finnish proverb, 'Pillu se on pulullakin'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the heathens make a pretense that 'dun have to, automerge' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: subj was specifically the cases where regrind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, i dunlikeit
asciilifeform: i have nfi how, but it all evaporated. and mircea_popescu's hypothesis as as good as any.
asciilifeform: it's 100% of how asciilifeform used it before encountering mircea_popescu , yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, the proggy for which i originally wrote the thing , was one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, i assumed was typo from 'wraiths'
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851125 << incidentally, we very much want to do this. diana_coman mind setting up a large testing harness, send a soup of all packets lengths from 1 to 65536 bytes each hour back and forth for a week or two ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 15:54 mircea_popescu: ave1 i very much hope you don't think your own work is a waste for this reason.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:48 mircea_popescu: incidentally ave1 what was your process there ? did you compile a higher language original (what, c ?) and then desasm the resulting object code ? followed by a handpass through the result, neating & trimming things out ? or did you start with a blank page and a legal pad ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : nobody noticed, but it is troo -- i forgot to close the socket in the demo ( this has 0 effect, os closes ). but in next rev will correct this.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851125 << incidentally, we very much want to do this. diana_coman mind setting up a large testing harness, send a soup of all packets lengths from 1 to 65536 bytes each hour back and forth for a week or two ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : i thought about including timeout in 'procedure Receive...' but sat and thought and could not think of why , so omitted.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851155 << speaking of which, what's our next step here ? 1. wanna do cpu timing/load comparisons on the two libs ? 2. say that given the nature of the task (many different folk are expected to implement clients on various platforms) thin c is better than straight asm because more widely spoken and also presumably more portable/less friable ? 3. somethi
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851125 << incidentally, we very much want to do this. diana_coman mind setting up a large testing harness, send a soup of all packets lengths from 1 to 65536 bytes each hour back and forth for a week or two ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this flavour of thing is actually a 1980s meme, is what passed for lolcats in those days
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 04:38 mircea_popescu: now back to fake homosexuality : human sexuality is a learned behaviour. proper homosexuality is an inability to learn, akin to dyslexia or lefthandedness. fake homosexuality is the exact contrary, a lot of "what if"ism and "provemewrong"ism and so on. a social, rather than biological phenomenon.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Trope of the last decade, the weirdos go deeper and deeper into weirdo porn and dysfunction their sex
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 15:31 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the lulzfarm, "What do you need to know about me? I'm one hell of a kind. Seriously. You might like me or not, but you'll surely not find anyone as annoying/amazing as me. I consider myself a "mystic scientist" because, what is the supernatural world but unknown knowledge? I'm an engineer, a painter, a thinker, a bookworm, a weirdo, a kinkster, a traveler, a constant horny sensualist."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also suspect that distinguishable folx , where they exist, are occupied with sumthing other than prattling re how supposedly distinguishable they are..
asciilifeform: i expect it'll look like those nigerian dear|sir|madam|colleague, please consider out snakeoil|cockring|cockcage ...' items mircea_popescu collected
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851125 << incidentally, we very much want to do this. diana_coman mind setting up a large testing harness, send a soup of all packets lengths from 1 to 65536 bytes each hour back and forth for a week or two ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that he followed same method as described in his http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-2-no-c item ( which i suggested a long time ago ), simply take the calls & translate by hand into the linux abi convention
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote the item originally for gossipd experimentations. udp gives a max practical packet length ( what it is , remains to be determined ) and if given proggy's protocol needs variably-sized ones, you can pad with rng. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-02 02:04 mircea_popescu: well ? how EXACTLY did the entire "torzilla development community" spring up ? what the fuck is a lindsey kuper ?
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu , my article is pretty short, should nao be possible to answer the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850792 q mircea_popescu posed. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it astonished me how folx were able to so elaborately break such a simple thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: better still, no allocations, period. ( as in my item )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'партия сказала -- надо!, комсомол ответил -- есть!'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: ave1: know what would be neat ? ~raw~ packet support. ( recall mircea_popescu's 'i hate udp' thread )
asciilifeform: ( and e.g. mircea_popescu unsheaths ~erry day, and i dun recall him finding it headache ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu puts in a 'folx who lurked for n day and said 0' kicktron, i'll clap.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 20:05 mircea_popescu: simply have a knob that decides whether {crypto|plain} auth is used ; crypto does what it does now, plain asks a question, "Tell me what color is the sky", picked from a list or somesuch.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:57 mircea_popescu: it seems to me to be the right thing here, "connect when you're you". otherwise, who are we talking to ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-03 19:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cltKR/?raw=true << you were in a few times.
asciilifeform: actually quite recently, iirc mircea_popescu was even awake for it
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me "automatic connections" is a take on "a man walks into a bar" consisting of "but it wasn't really a man, just the hologram of one"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:38 mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was thinking of revising the voice model altogether, in favour of a voice-or-kick model.
trinque: mircea_popescu: eh? I'm not following you. implementing what you described would get someone banned if their IRC client is automatically reconnecting during netsplits and etc
a111: Logged on 2015-02-17 03:31 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, moore's dead, and the thing will suffer the exact fate of printing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was the marketing dept. d00d himself was moar of a quimby.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually very similar to nao -- d00d who spend childhood cleaning chicken shit instead of on horseback, was not lord material
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu , recall garcia lorca's 'alma de charol' ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i understand it, there's a set of folx with souls, and another, larger, set of meatpuppets with soul-emulator in ms 'excel'. and no, can't bridge gap, how would this even go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linus's kernel was the last remaining 'open sores' item that was 'usable from upstream' afaik. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linux kernel as a going concern prolly has ~months of life in it, if not weeks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: memcpy is simply a multiword mov
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'defined' is the item that differs in asciilifeform's, in fact. i dispensed with ~90% of the knobs simply by going 'sockets are udp, that's it'. no tcpism, i.e. no accept() and the associated streamolade, no unix sockets with their weird, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting, none of'em stay put ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: torvalds's thing reads like the zinoviev&kamenev 'confessions' ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i must disagree that ave1 duplicated the effort -- his item is foundation for a fyootoor raw-irons gnat, imho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: torvalds danced in the noose longer than most, is all i can add
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, read on, he published it meanwhile and I am looking at it right now
a111: Logged on 2018-09-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: honestly, FEWER "this is my fork design" would be way better than more. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/basini-unique.jpg and all that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++++ ocelot
a111: Logged on 2018-09-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: honestly, FEWER "this is my fork design" would be way better than more. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/basini-unique.jpg and all that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to clarify, is http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-16#1850668 an arg in favour or against posting $subj ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman and mircea_popescu can read and use if they like it, i'ma genesis
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it would still wrap recv and send at the very least
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 01:48 mircea_popescu: esthlos "Though I wouldn't try the thing on files larger than a megabyte at the moment." whynot ?
esthlos: mircea_popescu: just because it will take a while. should work just fine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's algo, aha
asciilifeform: i'ma stfu at this point, as i promised to mircea_popescu not to interfere in euloric matters. will answer q strictly re gnatology, if diana_coman runs into any puzzlers.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 17:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850418 << yes, none of that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the beauty is that there's no actual need to standardize one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how did erdos put it, 'first you forget to unzip after piss, then to unzip ~before~, and only ~then~ your own theorems'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 13:38 asciilifeform has reached the mircea_popescu level of amnesia where 'hmm did i make this and it is on hdd somewhere or did i only want to'
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: but nao that i think about it, iirc mircea_popescu maintains currently a mswin eulora client, so you might be stuck with gnat's.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 12:37 mircea_popescu: anyway, reading through this, i suspect ada threading may turn out to be a pleasure.
asciilifeform has reached the mircea_popescu level of amnesia where 'hmm did i make this and it is on hdd somewhere or did i only want to' ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 12:31 mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely possible you're the first one to ever put udp through gnat.sockets.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 04:04 mircea_popescu: yes. democracy fails to account externalities as a matter of course. see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783773 thread
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 14:18 asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He had the passably hot wife
a111: Logged on 2014-02-05 01:02 mircea_popescu: pankkake it's fascinating how they completely gloss over the part where one group (the scammers behind it) stole the resources of the rest of the people involved (every idiot that bought some, mined some, or pumped it up until two days ago)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds me of erry (?) kiddo's eventual q, 'why in these fairy tales nobody ever has to take a shit'
a111: Logged on 2014-02-14 17:28 mircea_popescu: little girl in last row starts crying her pioneer shirt off
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is sovok(tm)(r) is not this very duality.