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mircea_popescu: i have her walk in front of me ; and JUST as i'm explaining that nobody'd better fucking molest my guest or else, i feel some schmuck interlacing himself in front of me.
mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the amateur, as a category, is very much a 19th century late-protestantism invention, along with such greats as "altruism" etcetera. they have little anchoring in reality, being as they are the waste byproducts of a specific stage of industrial society.
diana_coman: uhm, maybe this particular love-mistake is so significant in practice to really make the distinction that no, they are not retarded, they are just ...dunno, love-seeking? and anyway then...why is this not just retarded as well?
mircea_popescu: making jesus (not as either the historical character or the pre-1800s various layers of reported historical character) the elliot of amateurs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo particularly visible in teh female herd, which is why exposure (as per http://trilema.com/2018/le-salaire-de-lidiotie/#footnote_1_78125 discussion) is such a cure-all of femissues.
mircea_popescu: (anyway, the distinction is spurious, dilettante is LITERALLY italian for "amateur", comes from the same root as gave delight in english)
asciilifeform: imho 'ameteur' vs 'pro' is muchly misleading termnology; 'serious' vs dilettante is as i understand exactly what mircea_popescu was discussing
mircea_popescu: there IS, incidentally, a very marked difference between amateur and serious fuckers, as teh womenz will attest. because the amateur fucker... http://trilema.com/2011/voi-puneti-fetele-sa-zica-ceva/ aka makes you call him "daddy" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: body is entirely as unbroken as anything can ever aspire to be.
asciilifeform: body is as 'broken' as anyffin gets, yet there is still such a thing as pro surgeon
mircea_popescu: hence "amateur mistakes" -- mistakes apt to be produced by one who acts as if the world/item/tool/whatever IS HIS MOTHER
asciilifeform: in the (possibly surprisingly, to some) not yet dead world of go, there exists such a thing as '9-dan amateur', who can sometimes win against (lower ranked) pro
mircea_popescu: you can be an inexperienced professional, just as you can be an experienced amateur.
mircea_popescu: seems to me deepfry monkey essentially amateur ; my expert sluts as pro as it can possibly get.
asciilifeform: in a certain old sov children's cartoon there was a crocodile character who , when asked what is his profession, would answer 'i work as myself, there in the zoo'
asciilifeform: as i understand, diff enuff activity that it is quite separate from what he does for living; and so amateur, just as he is amateur when plays chess
asciilifeform: ( ~that~ , as i understand, is where a coupla extra horse per kg, is 'life & death' q )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i picture zundapp as invariably with that mg.
asciilifeform: engine easily as big as toyota 4wheel's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for bonus lulz, there is also the 'duct tape' hypothesis. iirc in zimmerman's orig. 'pgp', ~straight fermat~ ( carmichaelizable! ) was used as the sole litmus.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 16:43 asciilifeform: ( as i understand, in koch world fermat test uses ~exactly same # of cycles as 1 shot of m-r )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890713 << the fundamental problem with these amateur cryptographers (as well as with other amateur everythings, from amateur presidents of the united states to amateur socioideologues on fetlife ) is that they go by what "is" rather than by what ~does~. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( exactly how they did turns, i do not know , but was pretty good all-terrain ride and valuable as spoils , and for many yrs in su they could be seen puttering about )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, read also next para as in any case there isn't much point to not do M-R if you do it at all
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, in koch world fermat test uses ~exactly same # of cycles as 1 shot of m-r ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: fwiw i liked ar as a coupla-day thing, but can't picture it being so great to have to get on a plane erry time want tooth filled , buy some irons, etc
mircea_popescu: this lasts as long as it lasts, but if you're actually me and task girls with finding it, and then they (incomprehensibly, and inexplicably) fail and so you cut the town up into squares and have them search it square by square and still NOTHJING turns up, eventually however many months later you can answer authoritatively : the stockyards are bereft of society.
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that ~any~ non-socialism, authoritarian, democratic or howsoever else, is just fucking fine.
mircea_popescu: whiter than 80%+ of the us ; as dumb as anything in the congo basin.
mircea_popescu: similarily they don't WRITE anything. su had samizdat BECAUSE REASONS. argentina doesn't have it, nor does it have said reasons. because NO NEED to. might as well pass legislation to forbid cattle the making of stalin jokes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Given Argentina's long sink into irrelevancy, the locals tend to think of Argentina as a diseased extension of Uruguay.
asciilifeform: meanwhile as of ch16a: libffa : 5142 loc ; ffacalc : 1279; for total 6421 (incl. readme, manifest, comments.)
asciilifeform: imho newton/leibniz is esp. good parallel here, as even if one takes shannon to be the discoverer, you can't actually build a reasonable otptron without j. von neumann's debiasing method
asciilifeform: i see a field's infestation with alchemists, astrologers, faith healers, as a ~secondary symptom~ -- of the field not having anyffing like a rational foundation to begin with.
asciilifeform: ftr i still dunget what one has to be smoking to use prng ~seeded by N~ as a witness source.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'distinction' ? near as i can tell, it's the 'narrative fiction' where 'you can assume that rng works'. recall the earlier entomo-gem where 'why not use fermat litmus, piano will fall on you before you see carmichael num' etc
mircea_popescu: the original said "The French don't like being famous for their incapacity of being on time ? Let them fix their watches somehow to the same hour, so they quit going about Paris, apparent adults, with half hour's delta among what their watches show. " and i'm willing to attest even as late as LAST DECADE this was a factual state of affairs.
mircea_popescu: there's of course an abundance of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890099 ; but as much as 15 maybe even 20% of the clickers simply do the right thing, go to trilema./ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a narrative is a set of interconnected events. as long as no interconnectedness is proposed, it's not a narrative, whether fictitious or factual. so you could say a painting is plastic fiction (while a photography plastic realism). cuz they're not narrative.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. because there is such a thing as experts, and the femstate spawns them.
asciilifeform: list of primes, as in Apple’s corecrypto library...' etc
asciilifeform: '...we construct a 1024-bit composite that is guaranteed to be declared prime by the GNU GMP library [Gt18] for anything up to and including 15 rounds of testing (the recommended minimum by GMP). This is as a result of GNU GMP initialising its PRNG to a static state and consequently using bases in its Miller-Rabin testing that depend only on n, the number being tested. We also show how base selection by randomly sampling from a fixed
mircea_popescu: the problem with knowledge : as reality scales with the set, knowledge scales with the powerset. not even calling it exponential does it justice.
asciilifeform doesn't have 1 here, given as never yet perceived any pressing need for such thing
diana_coman: anyways, I'm not pushing this strongly as "this is how I actually think it was" - as I said previously, I don't think I know enough to have much to say either way
diana_coman: I suppose the argument is that they still were the same thing i.e. that the fineness & precision differences were not so crucial as to make the result essentially something else; I can see it as such and fwiw that'd have been the default way to see it - if not for all the experience of "things that people call X and supposedly is made out of same things as X but different in implementation"
mircea_popescu: this is obviously an approximation, and it holds as well as it holds. but what can you do.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, perhaps re clocks though I keep thinking that the cheap ones were as clocks as current smartphones are computers
asciilifeform: ( the problem with doing so, is the 'aging' effect -- the amt of jitter tends to vary as time passes; and the fact of it being a rather expensive means of collecting thermal noise, resistor worx very similarly and costs 1% of what xtal costs )
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 04:27 phf: re "apprentice as watchmaker" i picked up first edition of The Marine Chronometer by Gould. i would call it "delightful"
asciilifeform: this is as it should be.
mircea_popescu: lmao. you know, many have tried, none have yet succeeded in guessing as much as a title, as much as a sentence, afore i publish my brew.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:45 asciilifeform: btw the orig folktale included mega-line 'and many did the stove crush as it went'
asciilifeform read the magick pike fish tale as a kid, and therefore knows where to stop!111
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's same problem as with http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889984 ; not only cannot be cut&paste'd or searched, but on folx having very diff display from orig author's, inevitably loox like soup ☝︎
asciilifeform: can use same styling as you did for the curls etc
asciilifeform: shinohai: 1 other thing -- screenshits of shell are pretty hard to read (on e.g. asciilifeform's display), i recommend to use same textblock as you use elsewhere ( e.g. where 'list of dependencies' ) rather than screenshit
a111: Logged on 2019-01-26 08:58 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889973 -> didn't rummage as too late yest but woke up this morning with this: when a= n-1 step 2.2 aka y=a^r mod n becomes y= (n-1)^r mod n; using for instance binomial expansion you have (n-1)^r = n^r + rC1*n^(r-1)*(-1)+rC2*n^(r-2)*(-1)^2+....+rC(r-1)*n*(-1)^(r-1)+(-1)^r; since the whole thing was "mod n", of all those terms you are in fact left with only the last one, aka y = (-1)^r mod n ; r is odd so
diana_coman: it is a leggit witness, yes; do you mean that it's not counted as it should be?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889973 -> didn't rummage as too late yest but woke up this morning with this: when a= n-1 step 2.2 aka y=a^r mod n becomes y= (n-1)^r mod n; using for instance binomial expansion you have (n-1)^r = n^r + rC1*n^(r-1)*(-1)+rC2*n^(r-2)*(-1)^2+....+rC(r-1)*n*(-1)^(r-1)+(-1)^r; since the whole thing was "mod n", of all those terms you are in fact left with only the last one, aka y = (-1)^r mod n ; r is odd so ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: nobody's openrelaying anything. that it's a typical ustard was not in dispute ; that he's doing this manually neither. schmuck is sitting on a couch as we speak, "surfing" ie trying to load pronz "from google", because "he lives in a society" and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: as it happens that's not a bot -- 74.90.192.109 is allocated to some schmuck in yonkers, ny, and the timing delays clearly indicate what these fucktards do : RETRY.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> Jacob completed his secondary education in Moscow and thereafter studied at Tbilisi State Academy << i read "thereafter" as "therefore" and was very confused/amused for a minute
mircea_popescu: he's as much an "it specialist" as he is a carpenter, painter or politician. "could do anything!!!" as sure as fucksticks, but irl unskilled and unwilling to work.
BingoBoingo: For the raep story files from the Toronto Sun: https://archive.is/fLZBv with the question: What gender does RBG identify as in the hospital?
BingoBoingo: 60 USD registration fee and 16th-30th place offer 50 USD as the prize
BingoBoingo: As my ELO is well under the 2400 necessary for a fee waiver and free room I suspect the 60 USD would be better allocated to either a Daschund or cheese
asciilifeform: they're imho ugly as sin too
mircea_popescu: no problem, i suppose for as long as they keep feeding you, you'll keep vegetating in yourself.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670800 as it were ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-boundless-burden/#selection-139.48-139.184 which is to say "since i'm gonna get pinned down and have a parasite injected ~ANYWAY~, might as well blablablblabla" and so on.
mircea_popescu: and it even begins with the usual pantsuit signature, "as an X", huh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it aint even wrong, as such. simply ignores fact that it'll always say 'prime' when eats a carmichael.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the abstract claim, "one random round of fermat provides same error probability as 32 rounds of m-r" is pretty striking.
mircea_popescu: but as a factual matter, before us-ization ro had a very good legal system ; much like 80 years prior, before sovietization.
mircea_popescu: so did they -- went in 2nd, right AFTER the sitting ro president's salutation and right above what they judged as the top economiasm.
mircea_popescu: in any case, in 2011, as in 2001, as in 2021 i can say "academia romana keks" or http://trilema.com/2011/stimata-academie/ whatever ; but they can't say "trilema.com", because holy shit. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ie, mostly tv stations perceived blogs as competition, but ~because they actually were~ competition, and winning, couldn't omit stealing their conent. and so the expression "found on the Internet" was invented to avoid saying "we suck, go read this-dood.com instead"
asciilifeform: this is almost as hilarious as the 'mathematical' conferences that happily ate perl-generated 'paper' etc
mircea_popescu: (romanian academy published a book in which it included the fraud complaint i issued against their at the time sitting head as "found on the Internet", an expression at the time famous in ro for being used by various derps)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-18 17:04 mircea_popescu: but anyway, in the us the strictly only avenue left to the dnc is to "pretend" to "ignore". if they engage they get crushed. the party's already gone as a going concern, for which reason : the only way an imaginary party can continue its imagined hold on worldly things is through "ignoring" them.
mircea_popescu: nor is there such a thing as Venezuala. did you get your vowels knotted up there ?
asciilifeform: in so far as anyone can tell, it's troo, and then 64bit witnesses suffice for 4096bit candidates. but not only relies on riemann, but dun win anyffin in ffa, where very small and very large number eat same cpu.
mircea_popescu: which is also why there exists such a thing as m-r witness sets, ie sets of witnesses guaranteed to not be false up to a certain value of candidates
mircea_popescu: specifically because density is uniform, if you ~only~ check say 64 bit numbers as witnesses (ie, nothing smaller than 2^63) there's a set of composites < certain limit that'll pass ; whereas if you only check 1-63 bit numbers (so the same ~number~ of numbers) there's a set of composites that'll pass, but they're LARGER than the same limit.
asciilifeform: when we sit the thing down on a microcontroller with mask rom, or some other similar iron, it will be important to be able to spot-check the m-r and determine that for some input known only to you, it actually behaves as m-r.
asciilifeform: per the proof, it is seemingly harmless ( a carmichael number has 1/4 of the integers as 'liars' ) but what it does is to prevent simple manual test with small numbers , which is imho quite typically kochian
asciilifeform: ( as discussed in detail in '17 thrd )
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news apparently they don't want people using the doors to congress as an improvised soccer goal anymore https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/-que-cosas-ya-no-se-pueden-hacer-alrededor-del-palacio-legislativo-segun-una-nueva-resolucion--2019123142549
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Surprisingly quickly. Not all Petro is equal as Vzla shows
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the recent history of Vzla is informative with respect to the US's future, competing with Argentina. As recently as the 1990's Vzla was a rich Germany. Chavez cut it down into a starving Ukraine. Maduro heard the people asking for more socialism and is giving them exactly what they want. Now USG is set to make a Somalia.
mircea_popescu: if you construct a "regime" out of the thin veneer of pop-socialism, myopic as all get-out and with all the intellectual prowess of earthworms, what the fuck do you expect permanence.
mircea_popescu: "show" has a very specific legal definition: whatever the judge feels like that day. I have been involved in thousands of these SSI cases, and to describe the system as arbitrary is to describe Blake Lively as "fair.""
mircea_popescu: otherwise, much as the conviction rate is 100%, the reversal rate is also 100%.
asciilifeform: re microshit 'os' in boxes -- seems like they see primary competition currently as being... old versions of own shit. ( recently they demonstratively had a d00d jailed, not even for 'pirated' but for selling at flea markets ~old winblowz~ disks )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are some ads that dun even pretend to make sense from commercial pov, and are strictly 'behold the glory of the great inca'. i used to ride the train erry day, it would as often as not be covered in ads for lockheed, grumman, etc, with photo of latest $trillion will-get-stuck-in-erry-canal boat, submarine, etc
mircea_popescu: t that his only hope at being young again is if he finds the way to shit whole prunes) that yielded the "entrepreneurial" revolution which, in short order, latched upon the imaginary http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/#selection-393.0-393.767 aka "ugc" as a fuel base to transform into prosperity died sometime since 2001.
asciilifeform: come to think of it , i can't recall when last saw a winblowz ad as such
asciilifeform: ^ it -- worx, and as described above, with the diff that it requires pointerism to be enabled.