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asciilifeform: (also can talk about att being every bit as 'usg' as any ministry, at the time of being a national telecom megamonopoly)
asciilifeform: earlier usg
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious
asciilifeform: usg billionaire
asciilifeform: open for usg to roam freely << the rocket train was disguised (thinly) as a cargo train and went on ordinary rail
asciilifeform: there is a legend, based on released usg docs of reasonable plausibility, that usg knew where the trains were at various times by sneaking neutron counters into passenger/cargo rail
decimation: actually usa has plenty of railroads, but none of them are open for usg to roam freely
asciilifeform: spitzer et al probably account for lion's share of my mental picture of usg elite
decimation: heh. well, the world of official usg is quite different from the world of finance for which usg provides a krysha
mircea_popescu: you think there exists a meta-usg that enjoys life like there exists a meta-nsa that enjoys thinking ?
asciilifeform: sorta like the argument that if there is already the usg-mandated maximum of xxx ppm of turd in your dinner, might as well go full-blown coprophagiac
asciilifeform: jurov: can ask them for stuff and pay in bitcoin... but quite bezzle rates << same as 'bitpay' but spammier flavour. and same problem. you can't bitcoinize a fiat business relationship not because of the funny green usg money but because it is wotless
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, decimation: the point that i was trying - and failing - to make, was that a fundamentally fiat-based business arrangement like renting a house from a fella on opposite end of continent who you've never met and never expect to meet, cannot be 'bitcoinized' in the sense of turning you loose from usg financial jail << Even when "fiat poor" developing "escape WoT" is obstacle
asciilifeform: decimation: just demonstrating that d1scr1m1n4t10n!!!111!! is not the root password to usg
asciilifeform: sooo >> usg could mandate pgp for letters of credit just as easily as it mandates the garbage we see today
mircea_popescu: you know you WILL end up having to come up with "the only reason sun raises in the morning is usg" at some point
asciilifeform: - usg.
asciilifeform: any single usg employee's security, in all respects, continues at the MERCY of unidentified party. in no sense and in no manner does it flow from usg-anything << to be fair, the very reason why 'identity theft' is a real problem for anybody is usg
mircea_popescu: any single usg employee's security, in all respects, continues at the MERCY of unidentified party. in no sense and in no manner does it flow from usg-anything.
asciilifeform: iirc not a single such machine sold to anyone but usg or a directly usg-funded org.
decimation: which can levitate to whatever degree usg chooses, as long as it keeps these pipes flowing
asciilifeform: then factor in the 'white men need not apply' subsidized housing from the other half of usg
decimation: yeah that's roughly 1/2 to one billion $ per year in your area alone, usg paid rent
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc, usg also automatically buys the house at bezzle-planned rate if you get relocation orders
decimation: I mean usg housing allowance
decimation: they just pay with usg fiat
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, decimation: the point that i was trying - and failing - to make, was that a fundamentally fiat-based business arrangement like renting a house from a fella on opposite end of continent who you've never met and never expect to meet, cannot be 'bitcoinized' in the sense of turning you loose from usg financial jail
decimation: banking at any bank is banking with usg
asciilifeform: decimation: aha. then usg also has receipt
asciilifeform: millions do the latter << heavily subsidized by usg
asciilifeform: 'get rid of' in the sense of 'make use of without giving half of it to usg'
asciilifeform: in that 'usg knows you had $xxxx that day in your pocket'
mircea_popescu: anyway, that they're "iraquis" is ridoinculous beyond belief. not even the usg believes anyone'd believe it, hence the "and kurdish" because supposedly nobody knows who the kurds are. except...
dignork: well, pretty much anyone doing TLS MitM just creates one key per client/subnet/attack, unless it's USG just using a kosher VeriSign key
BingoBoingo: In USia "drugs" are often used as a pretext by USG for taking nice things from people who have nice things.
Adlai: 'bong was a part of the USG lowering Shrem into pederastry' << ?
BingoBoingo: Let us all remember the bong was a part of the USG lowering Shrem into pederastry
punkman: Mr Nice spent quite some time in USG prison
punkman: iirc one of his partners was a USG agent, surprising he escaped USG prison
asciilifeform: as a mega-apocalyptic culmination of usg military wankery
decimation: well, the bigger picture is that usg is not going to be able to threaten russia or china as much as it used to
decimation: actually usg has also tacitly admitted that its submarines are becoming useless http://nationalinterest.org/feature/are-submarines-about-become-obsolete-12253
ascii_field: not without having the first or second marketeer i'd run into be a usg stooge set up for precisely this kind of harvesting
ascii_field looks for 'washington dc black market but not the usg stoolies' phone book
ascii_field: this is 99% of how usg collects its 'death ray plotters'
ascii_field: danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry << the odds are that after you were to make two or three such inquiries, you will come across a usg stoolie
ascii_field: NewLiberty: nothing to do with libel suites. notice that not one av vendor on the planet has yet fingered usg in the open. regardless of how obvious (e.g., 'stuxnet') the smoking guns.
mircea_popescu: dead usg agent was killed by someone. by whom ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: where does the dead usg sysadmin come in? somehow missing it
ascii_field: humans-in-the-loop is what -every single person nailed by usg so far- had in common. ☟︎
asciilifeform: chetty: more complicated. ploy to stave off genuine voice channel crypto indefinitely through 'aha see they foiled usg plot, go back to using traditional phone'
asciilifeform: because i didn't. and i don't believe a word out of the usg shills that is south kr.
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2015 20:48:27; ascii_field: great sim heist << transparent nsa smokescreen. gsm uses toy crypto since day one (usg mandate) and has always been breakable with minimal effort.
asciilifeform: depending on how much self-restraint the idiots have, it may even turn out that all usg-sponsored miners will run (or claim to run) 0.10
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2015 20:48:27; ascii_field: great sim heist << transparent nsa smokescreen. gsm uses toy crypto since day one (usg mandate) and has always been breakable with minimal effort.
ascii_field: 'Apps like TextSecure and Silent Text are secure alternatives to SMS messages, while Signal, RedPhone and Silent Phone encrypt voice communications. ' << finally the mask falls off, and we know that a usg muppet wrote that article.
pete_dushenski: but i guess the usg is just a marketing machine at this point
ascii_field: to peddle the notion that the sim keys matter for any purpose whatsoever is either the act of a complete illiterate on the subject, or a usg stooge.
ascii_field: you'll see soon enough when gemalto (as if nothing happened, remains in business of course, like all usg pseudo-industrial ops)
ascii_field: precisely the usg message.
ascii_field: great sim heist << transparent nsa smokescreen. gsm uses toy crypto since day one (usg mandate) and has always been breakable with minimal effort. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: no, it's a USG approach to a non-problem
decimation: 'no one' in the sense of anyone employed directly be usg
asciilifeform: quite a few usg-sponsored war projects are still -struggling to modernize to ada-
decimation: I guess the difference is the 'usg certificate'
asciilifeform: (one of the conditions for the ancient usg mandate establishing ada 'foundation' is that the product must be gpl'ed)
asciilifeform: can someone dredge up mircea_popescu's old article which mentioned the imperative to use nonstandard computing arrangements to frustrate 'one size fits all' usg idiocies ?
asciilifeform: ranging from mere omission of the fact, certain as daylight, of it being a usg production (with no attempt whatsoever inside to disguise their characteristic turdware tradecraft, note)
decimation: actually there's already a business where people 'resell' 'free' usg records - ancestry.com
asciilifeform: a usg 700k quote magicks into $0 for the right folks, yes.
decimation: usg has decided that it would be better to charge you $0.6 per page to copy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: an fpga that isn't a usg-proprietary piece of shit would go a long way
asciilifeform: there is also a titanic pile of usg grantsmanship on the subject
asciilifeform: but because forced to on account of working for usg or having to use some likewise closed turdware (usually also because, ultimately, usg)
asciilifeform: (not news) usg really loves rc5 and rc6 as non-attributable stream ciphers
asciilifeform: if there exists, somewhere, a maker of drives which demand signatures - usg is the first to get a copy of the key, to no one's great surprise
Adlai: they can backdoor the drive without the ceo having to patch usg through to the cto
Adlai: improvement... because the ceo gets fewer phone calls from usg
hdbuck: so whatcha gonna do when coinbase/TBF/bitpay/bitfury/KNC/ and all the usg rapist unite to promote the fork?
Adlai: hdbuck: just don't pledge allegiance to "usg and FIAT" and you'll be fine
decimation: it's based on some ancient usg code
asciilifeform: fortunately we are not interested in usg certificates.
asciilifeform: an ancient usg
asciilifeform: or rather, the ada component of gcc is based on the ancient usg-commissioned thing
asciilifeform: decimation: usg, interestingly, did not entirely abandon. but under pressure from microshit (primarily) relaxed the ancient laws
decimation: asciilifeform: even usg has abandoned ada
asciilifeform: his gas bill will be complimentary of usg
asciilifeform: point being that millions of boxes are permanent thralls to usg until key gets out.
asciilifeform: wake me up when a serious usg key leaks.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, it goes to the thread a few weeks ago about why does usg even bother to tax at all
punkman: fluffypony: did the usg agent choose surface mail too?
asciilifeform: ^ 'does not know how world works.' everybody knows that 'shortage' in usg parlance means 'not readily available at the centrally planned price'
decimation: yeah as if people are going to pay usg to fly their 'aircraft' at 500 feet within sight of the operator
decimation: in case folks are unfamiliar, usg claims the air on 'your' land starting at 0 feet
decimation: lol usg http://www.wsj.com/articles/online-document-sheds-light-on-proposed-drone-rules-1423960620
asciilifeform: presumably the usg dept. of retardation or whatnot, which phunds the phoundation, cares.
asciilifeform: this does not automagically explain publicly creaming one's pants for usg
xanthyos: to all USG people reading this log i am not antistatist or anti FIAT and i will turn states evidence on danielpbarron
assbot: You rated user xanthyos on 08-Oct-2014, with a rating of -5, and supplied these additional notes: met in '04; he depends on government subsidies and will side with the USG in order to maintain his leech lifestyle..
asciilifeform: 'and the the word "implant" was almost never used in security circles' << usually called 'bug' (in the 'room is bugged' sense) outside of usg