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mod6: <+jurov> mod6 please look at bigget picture, nto jsut to this one step << i think partly ... my general concern is my understanding of how this proposed system would work. this concern is based on the fact that when the current system was proposed, i had the oppertunity to speak out and put in my say in the matter, but I didn't understand it so I don't think I objected very much. and now look at where we are.

mod6: punkman: <+mod6> <+ben_vulpes> there's always /patches.html... << sure if it's readable. <+mod6> what about for unsigned new submissions?

punkman: mod6, "unsigned new submissions" < wat

mod6: <+ben_vulpes> there's always /patches.html... << sure if it's readable.

assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 19:25:10; solrodar: http://178.62.64.22/dot-filter.py << instructions at top

ascii_field: 'Ada 95: The Lovelace Tutorial.' David A. Wheeler << probably the most n00bish

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225757 << i like the deedbot idea; that is submit patches as deeds. The mailing list has stuff i need to decrypt/verify anyway, and I'm not a big fan of email in general ☝︎

BingoBoingo: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/009920.html << lol ☟︎

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225833 << can do this now! ☝︎

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225798 << how do i embed ~unmutilatable~ binaries in deedbot? uuencode ?!!! ☝︎☟︎

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225805 << this is what i refer to as 'blackholed' ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 12:35:39; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225130 << instead of imagining the arguments you two'd better quote them. THAT much of a process we do have, and it's both explicitly stated and in daily implicit visible use.

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-08-2015#1225499 << i know, apologies all around ☝︎

ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ootb, signed patches. deeding signed patches from darcs is less work than doing so from git etc << how so? i've never touched darcs, the question comes from ignorance.

trinque: mircea_popescu | asciilifeform and mod6 and mebbe we have trinque do the graph << I'm in; seems like yet another static site generator job

asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/04XFDSF << augmented ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/0MWBGJ1 << original ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-08-2015#1221213 << seems like he is there ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000100.html << example of one of my patches listing antecedents

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i never objected to folks using 'git', 'mercurial', etc. - only to the notion that <

assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 21:50:52; hanbot: ascii_field hanbot, what are the remaining issues? << rotor.sh sez: http://thewhet.net/han/rotorfail.txt (no patches) meanwhile mod6 has made progress on RI on ubuntu so still working on "manual" stator build.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-07-2015#1219909 << apparently not ☝︎

mircea_popescu: hanbot must be able to put into work the theoretical advances b-a produces <

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225197 << honestly thinking about it i dun see any way to avoid involving deeds in here. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225151 << this proposition is false. similarly, going to the market has "all downside and no upside" for goers : they know for a fact they'll spend money. and who knows if the stuff they get will be any good, won't spoil en route, won't get stolen before they get home or for that matter won't sprout heads and tentacles and eat them. so let's "safely" aka stupidly round th ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225149 << iirc that was gitHUB ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225134 < this is uniquely impractical because a) an actually stared definition of laziness that fails to include most everyone otherwise occupied has yet to be seen and b) you'd better not dare create a system that insults the powerful. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225130 << instead of imagining the arguments you two'd better quote them. THAT much of a process we do have, and it's both explicitly stated and in daily implicit visible use. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225121 << in fact few are going to actually test anything even when it is easy to do so. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225116 << i can see this as pretty legitimate. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I guess you are fortunate no electronic items were seized, etc. << I'd already met alf here. For all they know everything has the thermite.

BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I used to do the same thing with some guy from bitcointalk, moneypaktrader << iirc he made it rahter clear he was shady. BTcPak had a .com site and everything I needed to believe in it at the time.

punkman: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-july-2015-statement/ << the broadcast overflows and gets clipped, have to view source

BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/10RVK2B

BingoBoingo: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/10RVK2B << #ba-courts

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> shall we demand that of the pete_dushenskis and hanbots who wish to run their own hand-compiled foundation releases? << Honestly prolly. A recipe that provides ABI compatibility with 2.6.x Linux kernel is prolly fine. People can adapt to other environments.

BingoBoingo: <decimation> the problem appears to be http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#0505 that mapTransactions consists of pointers to CTransactions objects << Far worse in PoundNation 0.9+ where classes

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: instructions rot, are dependent on fallible humans. i write scripts. << And then shell changes

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what happened to n00bs reading logs for 6 mo ? << New challenges revert "seasoned" into n00b again

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> ... << how long? my maxint_locks build appears to be chewing on this one, but i cannot actually tell. << I remember more than a minute, but only resorted to spring powered time after already waiting

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i carefully summarized the antecedents to 'stator' for hanbot (see log) << stator, rotor work to build a bitcoind on the "mint" ubuntu-like. Don't remember installing more dev tools after g++ for stator

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> guess what - war consists largely of precisely this kind of 'pointlessness' << It always has, at least until armor became to weighty for civilized legionaries

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: the patches 'stacked on one another' is an artifact of how diff works << Ugliest artifact. MIN_RELAY_TXFEE and MINTXFEE live in main.h and init.h when patched. very volatile line numbers

BingoBoingo: <trinque> I watched a guy drink himself to death because you know, unix wasn't everything-is-a-table << What. People don't die of drink anymoar because it feels good man?

ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: yes, and that ought to be in every release << and this raises another question, shall mod6 and i now switch our build process to involve the rotor assemblage?

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1220389 << how long? my maxint_locks build appears to be chewing on this one, but i cannot actually tell. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1223731 << ahahahahahaha ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225151 << we're not signing because it has 'upside' now. but 1) because unsigned code is 'written by no one' and hence is a work of the great satan by default implication 2) for the archaeologists 3) for the revolutionary tribunals ☝︎

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: broken << sure, yeah.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> was hoping, glass cannon fired. << Might never fire

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1224830 << will make hfcs just fine ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's a game. who do they actually interdict, the "criminal" "biker gangs" ? << Much of this demographic is USG. Not in the informant sense, but USG peeps needed meanign in their lives.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544231 << see also ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1224797 << if you can you must and all that. recall the discussion. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1224790 << the deal is, the us keeps pretending like it's fighting and in exchange the cartels keep pretending like they're fighting too. ☝︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2015-August/078072.html << l0l

BingoBoingo: <decimation> my understanding is that europe it is common for ee's to be forced to work in actual 'electrical trade' for a time << In hometown I once pulled permit to fuck with wiring by saying "Hey mayor Joe, sign this"

BingoBoingo: http://www.bnd.com/news/local/crime/article29918518.html << Apparently US bullets don't kill anymore? Or false flag?

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1224763 << yeah, you really want "triphased" ie 380v ☝︎

BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/nrX72 << Moar streaming, Moar copyrastas

ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> increasingly, becoming a problem i nthe us, too. << tell me about it

BingoBoingo: www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/04/russia_locust_invasion_swarms_of_locusts_devastate_crops_defy_government.html << Meanwhile no US news stories on the molds which are going to reduce North American grain yields substantially this year.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but it was probably from an importer << ROasted seeds are happily imported en mass.

decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205975 < jurov got me interested in the european 'poppy bread' ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the common belief in ru, i will note, is that usg involvement in afghan is ~strictly, solely~ so that ru cities are rotted with heroin << US pretty rotten with heroin too. DEA pressure on doctors and economy will do that.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (cheapest still when there are armies ~defending~ your fields - e.g., u.s. army in afghan) << Medical poppy in India, Culinary poppy in Eastern Europe, and Recreational poppy in Afghanistan

BingoBoingo: <decimation> I suspect if were simple it would have been done already << Why no 7nm junction consumer chips?

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or for that matter, let transgenic e.coli piss out the active ingredients of the dope << Soon

decimation: https://www.blackdogled.com/phytomax800.html < 800w for $2.34k

BingoBoingo: <decimation> ah apparently they use 1000w high pressure sodium lights << Best part of spectrum for plant growth.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> poor idiots, broadcasting 'i am growing weed!' for miles << I remember freshman year of undergrad being high as fuck reading about infared indentification of marijuana and not realizing till I sobered up that they were talking grow lights and not smoke.

decimation: http://www.w0qe.com/RF_Interference/grow_light_electronic_ballasts.html < details

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: you may also discover the little 'secret' re: how ham folks keep usg from selling their spectrum to the highest bidder (or most favourite son) << The part where cellular is worthless?

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << wanna bet this will be parcelled out for strictly nominal fee (if any) to favourite sons? just like fucking radio spectrum << Probably not yet. This seems like a clean return to keep the fire burning. Now later...

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1224678 << wanna bet this will be parcelled out for strictly nominal fee (if any) to favourite sons? just like fucking radio spectrum ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224554 << some actually can do this. ☝︎

decimation: ascii_field: http://www.cartesianco.com/ < they use 1980's era inkjet cartridges to 'print circuits'

ascii_field: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/RoQrSFJ_M9o/ca3-nbSuIc0J << moar, for aficionados ☟︎

danielpbarron: http://i.imgur.com/4ZFQKYn.jpg << me and fare

ascii_field: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/qgxfZ-I-nJ4/q6mKVUA7b1oJ << obligatory, the mega-flamefest that followed ☟︎

ascii_field: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/urbit-dev/for$20sale/urbit-dev/PvXo1t7uNrY/ik5e-9b-cNwJ << where i sold mine

ascii_field: http://tunes.org << the ruins

danielpbarron: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/urbit-dev/KNkFS_34P_I << this is him also selling his thingy

danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224509 << I was trying to figure out what this urbit dukedom thing was, in in so doing found this -> http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xB36AE9849D961AC9 << I met this guy at porcfest / he was the only one there who also had his GPG fingerprint on a business card; we signed eachothers keys :D ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ascii_field http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8502 << can you translate this to some sort of english i might understand ?

ascii_field: decimation: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 << see also.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481156 << this is what i had in mind ☝︎

ascii_field: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Clyde+Frog <<?

mod6: <+ascii_field> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224297 << please see last night's log! (spoiler: jettison does't actually free mem..) << will review, thx. ☝︎

trinque: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is/ctradeg << Anduck

ascii_field: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is << l0l (via diametric)

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224314 << who, me? nope ☝︎

decimation: http://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-fips-2.0.tar.gz < the 'fips' source

assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 16:03:01; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> to which i answer << and to wich is answer, if memory serves you were brought by a woman!

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224291 << was many things-ed by women ☝︎

ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1224297 << please see last night's log! (spoiler: jettison does't actually free mem..) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-04.log.html#t16:24:41 << ima just leave this here.

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> to which i answer << and to wich is answer, if memory serves you were brought by a woman! ☟︎

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> knowing this, how to talk to 'under 30' ? << i have an easy enough time, prequals : nude, nice tits, better ass, on knees.