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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100283 << the odd reason being that the whole fucking plan was stupid to begin with ? it relied on the insane theory that everyone's the intellectual captive of the usg dreamsilk. ☝︎
asciilifeform: whereas today it means, to many, 'what he is called by usg'
felipelalli: i did not mean "usg agent", replace that by "specialist in documents"
asciilifeform: felipelalli: a usg agent is not a machine for verifying that this piece of paper contains the name my mother gave me. he is a machine for furthering the will of lizard hitler.
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: so, supose you are a usg agent and everybody knows your ability, you rate 10 the user br-8d255152, even if that user had 20x -10, I'd trust in your rate. The point is just the standard. The WoT serves as a natural filter.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the original thread concerned traditional identity papers issued by, e.g., usg
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> felipelalli: someone who is not a usg agent has no ability whatsoever to verify the legitimacy of any document but that of the most laughable fake << asciilifeform re
asciilifeform: felipelalli: someone who is not a usg agent has no ability whatsoever to verify the legitimacy of any document but that of the most laughable fake
asciilifeform: williamdunne: agents of usg can get a passport as legit as yours or mine, ten times every morning before breakfast.
asciilifeform: 2) usg reaction. loud farts, but on psyop front, barrage of faux seeek000r1ty products
asciilifeform: think, why would usg make loud, public farts against 'iPnohe' and other products from usgtronics vendors which remain as porous as ever ?
williamdunne: (they being the collective employees of the USG)
williamdunne: But USG spending is so stable? Hence why they keep growing year on year.
williamdunne: lobbes: The USG does the same on foreign earned income.. when you neither live nor work in the US
ascii_field: iirc it is directly usg-affiliated.
mats: not so complicated, cert. store and USG owns a master key
decimation: 'the people' desperately want to believe that there is a secretly competent branch of usg saving them from themselves
decimation: mircea_popescu: you see this in the us with the ambiguity usg shows toward spying in general
decimation: yes, but usg has been very successful at brainwashing the masses into believing its bullshit
asciilifeform: usg was pure, refined 'this' since day 1.
decimation: usg is tending in that direction too
asciilifeform: not entirely unlike usg.
decimation: as long as there is a 'reasonable basis' for the law (as in, usg can provide any reason whatsoever"
mircea_popescu: apparently it just needs to ask for permission (from a usg magistrate - improperly called a judge for the obvious reasons)
decimation: in practice, if usg wants to move you out of your house, they just freeze your accounts and bleed you with fines
asciilifeform: even if this, if chump cashes in his house, usg can seize
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious in a scholarly way exactly what sort of outrage would incentize teh usg to go back on its "principal home can not be seized" approach to things.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone directly realises what epic self decapitation the dpr was for the usg.
decimation: in order to sell such a thing legally in the us, you must explictly gain usg's permission, after suitably demonstrating that it works as claimed
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:52:11; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'.
asciilifeform: the folks who were making fools of themselves on usenet now want to be usg brass
asciilifeform: i would observe that everyone presently in good favour of usg by virtue of their 'passport data' - skin, gonads, etc. - runs the risk of ending up weimar-jewed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my first gig out of school was at an abominable usg-contracting salt mine where little gurlz straight out of mit, for that fact alone, were promoted, repeatedly, over everyone else's head ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'. ☟︎
mats: of course. USG spent the last decade in iraq fighting in hovels.
asciilifeform: this applies to mit, usg, rome, whoever.
asciilifeform: folks who went there - either of these or any other top academies of usg - by all rights ought to pretend to have spent their youth in jail or army.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: keybase and friends (usg in the broadest possible sense) can read your mail and sign as you.
ben_vulpes: procures and doles out usg cash. what else does one need to know?
trinque: persuade the usg to cut them fat checks
ben_vulpes: but simulacra that pass the sniff test at palantir and other usg sinecure production theaters
mats: http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/2015/04/fbi_man_plotted_suicide_bomb_attack_at_kansas_military_base_0 USG exploits another mentally unwell person
asciilifeform: the original conversation, iirc, was about usg sibyls
decimation: one sees exactly the same phenomenon in usg today
Guest64542: what does usg stand for?
asciilifeform: decimation: what i meant was: a lawsuit in an american court is won or lost at the pleasure of usg.
decimation: yeah asciilifeform, what do you mean "tendril of usg"
Guest64542: Mr. P: Forgive my ignorace, but who is DC? Are you referring to the provider that hosts your site? Or some sort of third-party abritraitor? And what do you mean by "tendril of USG"?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i predict that the case will hinge on whether 'fetlife' is a tendril of usg in good standing
asciilifeform: 'large' in the buffett, usg-large sense
mircea_popescu: decimation sadly usg is not directly involved. this is more "let's make vague laws to satisfy an abstruse expectation of good". the only result is, whenever contrary interests meet, the provider is caught in the middle.
decimation: usg enjoys forcing everyone to be an agent
decimation: asciilifeform: but does working as a usg employee at jpl really free him from java hell?
ascii_field: without being killed by usg
ascii_field: what he did was, essentially, steal a usg mega-product - macsyma, the first really universal computer algebra system, thousands of man-years of
mircea_popescu: which is the real risk here : if pools collaborate TOO MUCH we end up with usg 2.0
asciilifeform: very much, going by the public statements, a believer in some idea of a return to a mythical 'old' usg
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is difficult to imagine that cia employee would have no concept of what usg dishes out to the rest of the planet (as well as own subjects)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: at any rate, snowden deserves his share of being pissed on for his failure to say 'yes, if you are a servant of usg i want to see your miserable existence end on headsoff.com'
decimation: does usg even allow you to possess a laser like that without permission?
ben_vulpes: may it drain the usg's coffers and drive her to hitherto unprecedented printing sprees.
decimation: it's amazing how the interests of the 'public at large' (even 'usg at large') can be usurped by some bureaucrat who likes a nice window office
decimation: asciilifeform: you can imagine how it would cramp the style of a high ranking usg 'staffer' to report for duty inside a hole
decimation: usg paid $bil to hollow out mountain, then paid $$ to modernize it after 2001, then decided it was 'too small' in 2006 (apparently nukes weren't a concern anymore) and now has suddenly seen wisdom in moving back into the bunker
mircea_popescu: so are we gonna call teh usg ops "tiki taka" ? seems adequately derpy...
mircea_popescu: seems teh usg-consensus pretty much is to make amd extinct.
ascii_field: 'oh noez non-crippled hardware, someone other than usg could modify it'
ascii_field: http://danluu.com/cpu-backdoors << not the first time a usg shill spins amd's lack of encipherment or signature enforcement on microcode updates as a weakness
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat? << There is a trilema post tracking this phenomenon, but if you want to elevate it to a sustained operation go for it.
ben_vulpes: who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat?
asciilifeform: decimation: no need for xray, just buy off some outfit that handles 'palmprint' door locks for usg
decimation: so in the us, you can work to pay usg tax, or work to beg from usg
BingoBoingo: Firetruck is immenently useful in post USG world. Break out the hoses on former desk jockeys.
ascii_field: (for n00bz: the subcontractors which do most of the practical 'usg-ing' are headquartered largely in north virginia, and have massive backup power and other every other conceivable luxury, large and small, on the grounds.)
ascii_field: it also shows where the -actual- usg priorities are
punkman fondly remembers the "by entering this website you promise you aren't a USG agent"
mircea_popescu: in today's lol at people who are not lawyers but think they are : quora has a tos and a special-for-usg tos. the tos says it's the only agreement between user and quora. the special-for-usg tos says "language in the Quora ToS and Quora Privacy Policy indicating it alone is the entire agreement between the Parties is waived"
asciilifeform: incidentally, usg doctrine is that 'fresh' nuke powers don't really 'count' - much as usa did not count in 1947 because, elementarily, not enough of the specific industrial base to secure a steady supply of nukes
decimation: yeah but usg ensures that they have a press op where they say the opposite
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the racket in question here is where usg plays hand-muppets and runs faux 'we're l337, we sell to 1r4n' at the same time as 'proletariat united against ir nukes' on the other muppet hand
decimation: no he said that they would have to wait awhile and fill out usg forms
asciilifeform: i think i can see why ubiquiti was picked for this particular role in the usg shitgnome muppet theatre
asciilifeform: usg contractor supplying boobytrapped goodies to the untermenschen
asciilifeform: of course, now we have a helpful recipe for determining whether it's a don't-give-a-fuck-shop or a usg honeypot - sue, and see if state secrets privilege is invoked...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090151 << nothing the usg uses actually works. ☝︎
lobbes: Or is it simply: "Don't make yourself a target for usg" ?
trinque: this I guess is how usg creates jobs
ascii_field: (solidly usg-controlled and no one other than us appears to smell the stink of the beast!)
mircea_popescu: but the pretense that his thinly veiled propaganda is "real journalism" is indicative of the state of the usg propaganda machine, be it daily beast or wapo.
mircea_popescu: yeah well... it seems reasonably obvious that the usg's very uppity policy is insanity on the mid term. they need us a lot more than we could ever need them. obviously a bit of humility today will save a lot of abject humiliation in 2025, but in any case
mircea_popescu: <decimation> in other words, it only applies to code that the user himself has compiled << in other words, it is by its very definition dekulakization. run the fucking code usg & dept of friend computer say you run, terrorist!
decimation: well, munger comes to the same conclusion as moldbug, that is usg is highly resistant to voting - because to be otherwise would be terrifying
decimation: ^ the 'result' is simply that outcomes are not process-neutral, so manipulation of 'voting rules' manipulates outcomes. thus, dictatorship by process, ie usg
asciilifeform: decimation: easy as a fart if you're a usg intelligence asset.
mircea_popescu: pretense to the contrary is just that, pretense, readily explained by the desperation in usg quarters post their loss of their main asset in here.
mircea_popescu: you know who he is, the law abiding middle class type that got raped by usg because hey, socialism has no middle class.
mircea_popescu: i for one am kinda curious to hear what it's like to be one of the usg cattle that actually got the knife.
mircea_popescu: "just one of those things". like rain, or the usg.
PeterL: so, my lastest run-in with USG agents: the mailman doesn't like where my mailbox is. It is currently on the rail of my porch, he says I must instal a box on a post in my yard
mircea_popescu: he wants to do what the usg typically does.