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mircea_popescu: so far i think we're well supplied for that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if parachuting, must take into account yield
mircea_popescu: afaik danielpbarron resolved that, but srsly, 3k seems at this point excessive. bitcoin hasn't had that many nodes since i dunno, 2012.
nubbins`: anyway, now ya know how much that many of em costs 8)
nubbins`: mircea_popescu there's also then the issue of where to stash them etc
asciilifeform: not yet sata, though i am still unable to figure out why (CONFIG_SATA_MV is set)
asciilifeform: it is able to use usb storage and sd
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, punkman, nubbins`, anyone else with a non-serialport pogov4 - new kernel that you can try.
mircea_popescu: aha ima look in logs then
asciilifeform: did paste in some of the highlights.
asciilifeform: i'd squeeze them out myself, but no time at present
asciilifeform: anyway, document in question is a piece of nuttery containing, if you put it through a juice extractor, some very sensible hypotheses
asciilifeform: 'police report at' == 'report written to police'
mircea_popescu: so some guy wrote some things on a piece of paper about what he heard on the news and submitted this to his local police station ?
asciilifeform: he meant 'report to police'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was just about to!
mircea_popescu: can you retro-translate this via your russian dictionary to actual english ?
mircea_popescu: "Police report at EU national police agencies, extensively discussing CIA-Wikipedia-Google media control crimes, of which the CIA-Snowden fraud is part."
asciilifeform: still no sata support - but this is enough to begin testing
asciilifeform: this turdel will 1) boot and dhcp 2) start a suicidal telnet that goes straight into a root shell
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not a bad deal, but meh, spend 35k on this thing ?
asciilifeform: 084ace0c578a4920a4cad59e426165b180fd8b1e170e9da406772bf1546208abc63d8b101fa63b9152d2003a816b4309203bbd391e434302830a3de3eab2dddc turdel_with_telnet.gz
BingoBoingo: ^ Picture in article is larger than when displayed with the text
jurov: " is set to become the world’s first trading platform with a direct connection to the classic banking system" davout perhaps you may something to say about that?
assbot: FIDOR Bank and Bitcoin.de launch Bitcoin Express trading system | BitcoinBlog.de - das Blog für Bitcoin und andere virtuelle Währungen ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkclVF )
BingoBoingo: Imma watch the video and try to screencap the variety of arms
asciilifeform: still think 'usg as high-tech north kr is impossible', ?
asciilifeform: one to break doors, gates; one to threaten bystanders, if any, with 'accidental' fire; one to shoot; and perhaps one with a cage that arrestee -might- be permitted to surrender into, if the bot's voice-recognition system works and if orders included a possible live capture ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: expect this kind of policing to become sop ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'The informant said he had known Hagler for more than 30 years. Hagler had a seething hatred for his ex-wife and was becoming more agitated after events in Ferguson and because he believed he would lose his homes in St. Louis for not paying taxes, according to court documents. A second informant said the tone of his views against government....'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu guess what usg's response to 'solzhenitsyn's axe' is, aha.
asciilifeform: nothing in the text about this, naturally
asciilifeform: linked video has the thing roll about
asciilifeform: esp. of the photo.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It just might be the first
asciilifeform: all the above means is that buildroot deliberately fucked up the build system to make it extremely inconvenient to add it to the default init
assbot: St. Louis man threatened to kill police, rigged home with booby traps, court documents say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/19nUD62 )
BingoBoingo: "Must be a heavy dude," Griffin said, "to have all these police come out." >> http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-man-threatened-to-kill-police-rigged-home-with/article_cf037dda-dd90-5959-b84f-80f59f7403e3.html
asciilifeform: jurov: how do you propose to log in to the box ?
jurov: don't see a problem there. once telnet starts, root access is no longer unexpected.
asciilifeform: 'we'll tie your hands for your own good'
asciilifeform: especially true if root has no password set - which is by defult).'
asciilifeform: there's no chance for unexpected root access to the target (this is
asciilifeform: - until user manually starts telnetd while connected via serial console
asciilifeform: 'Note that telnetd won't auto-start on boot because of securilty concerns
Adlai watches a snail crawl across the edge of a razor
nubbins`: alf just triggered one of my snowcrash zone-outs
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2013 16:54:13; nubbins`: floor. vast communities of bulky orderlies. rowhouses of nurses. all rooms are hospitals now. the firmament, a massive inferno of blue-black gods. judges pouring time as the piss of Dionysus. insects dripping honey and pulling wax upon my ears. says, 'All the angels can dance on the tip of a pin. all thoughts can jig upon the point of a pen'
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2013#393640 nubbins` obv meant this ☝︎
nubbins`: try !s <that word> from:nubbins` some time
asciilifeform: the rtc is actually there, and worked under arch iirc
nubbins`: i had to double check the pcb last night when your rtc0 init failed
asciilifeform: (do not read this to take that a battery-backed clock is any kind of source of entropy, also.)
mod6: see, just thought i'd ask.
mod6: ok. so we won't sign transactions then
asciilifeform: in ways which we do not intend to abuse it
mod6: so what is bitcoind supposed to do?
asciilifeform: mod6: it has -no- source of entropy other than i/o
mod6: ok, maybe i don't understand. but im gonna ask anyway. but what you're saying is that the pogo embedded os wont have a rng?
assbot: A hole in telnetd [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/19nSqHP )
asciilifeform: something like this will be necessary if there is to be any possibility of changing, say, the ip bringup
nubbins`: but if you don't mind the indulgence, short term...
asciilifeform: no one should ever be connecting to these things except on his own lan during setup
asciilifeform: i wouldn't even bother with it at all if it weren't for folks here who don't feel like soldering the serial plug
asciilifeform: to be used only by devs or by folks who want to turn a knob (e.g., set a static ip instead of dhcp)
asciilifeform: activated, naturally, (if present in the battlefield version at all) by holding down button on boot
asciilifeform: observation: sshd on a box with no rng may as well be replaced by telnetd
nubbins`: "...oh yeah" then guy wanders in and takes stage w/ band
nubbins`: i recall being at one of these shows once
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Cider Squad can't be punk anymore. You have to understand that my herueistic for this is that if I've heard of something it can no longer be punk, underground, or whatever
nubbins`: BingoBoingo you want real punk, check local flyers for bands called "cider squad" and shit like that
mod6: oh startswith P. i know who it is. that's awesome!
nubbins`: 10/10 have watched maybe 15 times
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> BingoBoingo any punk band you've heard of is by definition not punk << Of course by the time I've heard of them they've lapsed.
nubbins`: mod6 melvins was a good guess tho, they get silkscreened posters done locally for all their slows
nubbins`: but the trappings of punk
nubbins`: but can't say much else til the contract is signed :D
nubbins`: mod6 you'd definitely know em, the name starts with P and it's not pennywise
mod6: I heard they're gonna be playing up here. gotta try to catch 'em.
mod6: Do you consider Strung Out to be a punk band?
BingoBoingo: Were punk, they were punk, emphasis on the past tense
mod6: what about Fugazi. Or the Melvins? Everyone knows them, they're still punk(tm)
BingoBoingo: If the bad has a big name it can't be very punk
asciilifeform: nubbins`: not unlike the 'playstation' supercomputing clusters and sony's response
asciilifeform: nubbins`: "We currently have plenty of them in stock" << may be pessimistic, but i strongly suspect that the $20 stock will evaporate very quickly once the manufacturer realizes what these are being used for.
asciilifeform: but don't be surprised if it makes headlines in the mouthpiece press as a mega-s333k00r1ty-gotterdammerung
asciilifeform: perfectly pedestrian things.
asciilifeform: from what i can tell, the thing reads fw images, tests if smm register is properly locked, etc.
asciilifeform: intel is interested in 'platform security' in much the same way that monsanto is interested in your healthy diet.
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asciilifeform: punkman: at any rate, check out the vendor - intel.
nubbins`: "We currently have plenty of them in stock"
nubbins`: woo, got a contact for bulk orders from that other place
asciilifeform: how's that supposed to work
asciilifeform: punkman: which is one of the objects under test
asciilifeform: punkman: the uefi variant runs from... within bios?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: picture how a 'civilian' would view #b-a log if he were to read 'the choice bits'
punkman: asciilifeform: doesn't have to run in windows though
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the actual facts about usg are sufficiently monstrous that they will trigger -any- reasonable person's immune system the way they triggered yours, if encountered raw in one gigantic torrent
nubbins`: these rambling essays to me are like rounded corners to mp