asciilifeform: meanwhile, hell froze over, a ban on microshit being seriously floated in ru parliament

asciilifeform: goodbye 'emerge portage'.

asciilifeform: speaking of which, apparently AS OF TODAY gentoo portage latest ver DEMANDS gpg2. ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: spyked: this is where the empire shines, really -- they can always muster the brute ox power to make a 'this at least exists' ersatz.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796228 << shinohai -- what's the plan, 'i'ma switch off my bot, they will see, will SEE, how necessary i was!11' or wat. ☝︎

asciilifeform: with special emphasis on http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701858 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: spyked: prev. thread, incidentally, re 'noise protocol' : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701852 ☝︎

asciilifeform: i.e. 'magic haskell oracle pronounced that my proof is proofy-enuff. nao gimme tenure.'

asciilifeform: spyked: the authors of these wonders, have very other goals in mind than to help you understand. quite the opposite.

asciilifeform: i do not have anything against mechanized proof per se. but in practice it is in ~100% of published cases used as an attempted 'i can't believe it's not self-evident correctness!' margarinesque substitute for fits-in-head.

asciilifeform: ^ see also.

asciilifeform: !#s cryptol

asciilifeform: the premier peddlers of this type of snake oil 'commercially' (i.e. fattened on lavish usg contracts) are the cryptol people. they've spawned, unsurprisingly, shoddy imitators.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796220 << that's because... it IS salad. with a perfume of 'proofiness' sprayed on , as described in e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 re urbitists ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796218 << if the usg claptrap scaffolding were removed, the whole thing would vanish, like a toy balloon with skin peeled away. there'd be no 'product'. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796216 << that's because the 'field' is a rat's nest of deliberate, obscurantist claptrap. 'there is no there, there.' can burn considerably more than 4y, it is a bottomless pit -- a kind of mechanized astrology. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ckang: a correct program stays correct after million yrs of 'research' by butthurt usg. an incorrect one -- is incorrect immediately, even if no one 'researched'

asciilifeform: ckang: this is a fundamentally african approach.

asciilifeform: adoption can reveal presence of flaws, but not absence (tm)(r)

asciilifeform: ckang: this makes 0 sense as 'flaw'

asciilifeform: e.g., rot13 -- 'works, is fast'

asciilifeform: def of 'working' in re a ciphrator, is tricky question

asciilifeform: no martian tech needed, stateless routing is basic sanity

asciilifeform: ckang: see ^ logs.

asciilifeform: !#s single packet

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the displacement takes place in the imagination of the usg chair warmers, naturally. 'we'll cook up this boeckian substitute, no one will have any curiosity re the real thing, when it deigns to show up' being the idea.

asciilifeform: like-that.

asciilifeform: easily,

asciilifeform: aimed to displace and erase an actual honest item

asciilifeform: ckang: disinformation is not always a set of empty words; often can be a working mechanism, with moving parts, superficially correct

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796071 << it is 'better' in same sense as ethereum 'better than' paypal. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796063 << the most important documents are ~not there~ for him to read : i.e. the wholly-absent proofs of strength for any of the symmetric poppycock ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( e.g. chacha )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796064 << naturally fast -- uses post-betrayal bernsteinian cryptosnakeoil, instead of old-fashioned nsa-inhouse snakeoil ☝︎

asciilifeform: with generous helpings of c pointerolade, opensslism, mathemadturbatorily- squigglymarked pdfolade, tall claims of 'formal verification', etc

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796043 << i read. it's a hannoboeckization of gossipd. ☝︎

asciilifeform: 1 caveat re 'brute force needs machine the size of 10^bignum universes running for 10^biggernum yrs' is that it presumes a flat keyspace. whereas if instead you can exclude large chunks ( because, e.g., winblowz rng is known to never output'em , or some other likewise ) ...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure this is in full alignment with current paper usg.law -- recall, they stripped away immunities from shrinks, priests, wives, etc. why not also cpa.

asciilifeform: spyked: i did realize, slightly later, lol

asciilifeform: seealso thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612658 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( and , consider, why the everliving fuck is a re parser need to live in a irctron ?! )

asciilifeform: libpcre is reliable lolcow, however , so i believe it.

asciilifeform: it's equiv of 'winamp playlist' of 0day, rather than 0day

asciilifeform: so to reproduce, would have to know the trigger

asciilifeform: douchebag: incidentally the hinted item gives 0 way to reproduce -- it dun say where the lib was loaded in memory

asciilifeform: also come to think of it, on current linux douchebag's thing is not necessarily a null , so whoknows

asciilifeform: aa ok i get it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaaa. if dynamically linked -- will say 'in lib...', if static -- in proggy.

asciilifeform: whether in library or not

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: absolutely not needed , can happen anywhere in process space

asciilifeform: and then dmesg

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and then ./demo

asciilifeform: and then : yasm -f elf64 -g null demo.asm && ld demo.o -o demo

asciilifeform: mov rax, [0]

asciilifeform: _start:

asciilifeform: global _start

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ok, here you go: demo.asm :

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma demonstrate; 1s

asciilifeform: ( kernel traps attempt to read from addr 0 , marks separately from any generic out-of-process attempt of r/w )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of the cited examples are 'error 4' i.e. nullptr deref

asciilifeform: but roughly same result

asciilifeform: and not btc but privatization-shares

asciilifeform: trinque: didjaknow, at one time they gave out btc to a buncha starving sad folx, and ~0 of'em kept it. this was, of course, '90s ru

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did; so far no answer.

asciilifeform: in related lollies, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-17#511356 , http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-24#894318 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-23#988950 ☝︎☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: ( the operative text, so that nobody else is stuck sifting through that pile o' rubbish : ' hexchat[30394]: segfault at 7f0ca6862199 ip 00007f0ca67a5993 sp 00007ffd83fab310 error 4 in libpcre.so.3.13.3[7f0ca678b000+70000] ' ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: ergo snore.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795667 << eggog 4 is a null ptr deref. i.e. just about never usefully exploitable. ☝︎

asciilifeform: and earlier some d00d was complaining re mpex withdrawal -- but for some reason in kako's chan, not here

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: pliers definitely needed, bringing own

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: blasting off the next thurs. early am.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno how much sight-seeing i will get in; long list of things to do in the cage

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not driving it personally, lol

asciilifeform: saturday

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: will reactivate travel key some time tomorrow

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have a car reserved, will ping you from hotel after properly slept

asciilifeform: sslism ? aha

asciilifeform: iirc there are voodoo shops with 'dollar oil'.

asciilifeform: lol that'd rock, betcha someone would buy

asciilifeform: ( for n00b readers -- folk recipe is traditional, dating to the dawn of cheap digital photo afaik, and certainly not asciilifeform's invention )

asciilifeform: correct

asciilifeform: this is not a calamity, or anyffing, can still create it here, just needs a bit of mixin'

asciilifeform: spot survey of shops.

asciilifeform: well i can only speak for this loc

asciilifeform: ( what grade ? the kind with 'baccilae', i.e. visible multicoloured rods )

asciilifeform: in other noose, highest grade of anti-usg glittery polish, softbanned (absent from stores)

asciilifeform: trying to eat that log presently

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: then why does mod6's vtron barf

asciilifeform: how was phf's v9995-choking patch set , created ?

asciilifeform confesses to not yet grasping the mechanics of this

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also^ uncleal's AFRICA2.AMS

asciilifeform: to what does a 'We create content that ranks and helps you rank' 'SEO ROI' spamatronics specialist's phone ~usually~ go ?

asciilifeform: cassidy3: this is in fact where mircea_popescu lives. you might have to wait a few hrs for him to wake up, however. meanwhile there is a log, http://btcbase.org/log , and you can read it or even speak 'into' it, he will read later at his leisure.

asciilifeform: !!up cassidy3

asciilifeform: they cost ~0 to birth. like shitcoins.

asciilifeform: douchebag: and i know some people who pwned ants with magnifying glass. incl. myself. i was 4 y.o., wat.

asciilifeform: pen-source Twitter-like experience for the masses' << ahahahawaat

asciilifeform: '...a re-implementation of the GNU Social codebase, which itself is ... an implementation of the OStatus protocol, originally forking from the GNU FM project and later merging with the StatusNet and FreeSocial projects, from the same people behind Identi.ca, which was later folded into pump.io, which uses the ActivityStreams spec along with protocols like PubSubHubBub, Salmon, WebFinger, and Atom syndication to deliver a federated, o