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asciilifeform: witness the traditional 'tlp' symptoms of walking around with no inclination to ~try~ such a thing, or anything at all, with own hands, and see why this dun work with any known automaton ruleset ( do i have to say why, or readers already know ? )
asciilifeform: i'll recount an episode recently reported by asciilifeform's pet, on reconnaissance into a heathen pit . two d00dz argued re 'post-rsa crypto'. and one drew forth from his sleeve an erudite wankery, n-th generation stolen from thel0gz! : 'why not cipher using playing field of cellular automaton, say, game of life, initial state as key...'
asciilifeform: there's 2 possible uses of abstraction -- a) to move between places in reality phase space that aren't walkable to via greedy algorithm ( e.g. tractor is not a minor refinement on horse-drawn plow ) b) to pull own cock
a111: Logged on 2014-03-05 23:06 asciilifeform: the 'time microscope' thing is typical of aging inventors who, by virtue of being cut off from competent peers (either by having none alive, or being on the wrong side of a jail of one kind or another)
asciilifeform: 'dreamer' culture is somewhat like a school of pilotage absent the landing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there might still be a few chukchas left somewhere who properly practice the virtue of 'never see a thing that ain't there' . the folx who shown a novel answer 'why'
mircea_popescu: there's no going back to a state of innocence, whereby "we don't know what's at the end of the earth". thereby, there's no going back to a state where we will ever do anything other than sift through herds looking for the accidentally lost woman in an inexplicable sheepskin.
mircea_popescu: all "sawing through the cage" proposals i've seen to date (and a major part of what i do is look for exactly that) consist of either idle wankery (german philosophy school etc) or else "here's how to cut a two inch hole in the wall, stick a paper bag out of there, and duct tape it to the hole from outside". ty... but... this replaces a wall with a paper bag ? "yes, but it goes FURTHER OUT!!" sure, but i still know it like my
mircea_popescu: in the sense there's a thing as countericecream
asciilifeform: there's also such a thing as countermodernity tho
asciilifeform: in the sense of him being a tentacle on a gigantic farming-powered civilization, that made his rifle, his shirt, his truck -- yea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your notion is anachronistic, in the sense that it compares a "hunter" cut out of the 10k years ago subsistence hunter contained in the expression hunter-gatherer with the modern farmer. you can't cross time boundries like that. modern hunter is modern in exactly the same way modern farmer is modern, and for the same reasons. historical "farmer" is just as primitive as the hunter, which is why it's even called
asciilifeform: it may even already be the case that the cost of a ~proper~ (i.e. non-poisoned) vegetable in usgdom from the specialty shop, counting the multiple taxation (of yer own money, as 'income', of the sale, as state 'sales tax', of the growers', of the landlord's, etc ) layers, equals or exceeds the cost of growing it with own hands in a garden.
asciilifeform: an incidentally interesting bit is that gardens are an 'unprincipled exception' in usgdom just as they were in su. theoretically a garden aficionado owes every 4th tomato or whatever his 'bracket' is, to usg, as tax; things that grow from the ground count, famously, as 'income' -- even if not sold -- per 'wickard v. filburn' ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-01-19 19:48 mircea_popescu: i came to it studying the warrior forum (*) years ago, when i noticed the unifying factor in all their textual emissions was a desire to "make money while you sleep".
asciilifeform: quite a few folx, esp. the mentally limited, are irresistibly drawn to anything that smells of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-19#449500 ☝︎
asciilifeform: hunter takes the forest as it is; farmer otoh is running a pretend-herdemoocracy-forest where calorie-dense seeds appear in rather unlikely densities ( as reviewed in http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain )
asciilifeform: and stuck with the chore of running a faux ecosystem with own hands, feeding the defective piglets to the proper ones, etc
asciilifeform: hunter doesn't concern himself with every piece of fungus in the forest, he walks in and shoots the tastiest-looking thing he knows how to get a bead on, neh
asciilifeform: well specifically i picture mircea_popescu as moar of a hunter than a farmer
mircea_popescu: so how do you secrete a wall between this and cows all day ?
asciilifeform: re peasants -- dim-witted westerners of prev generation ( current ones have nfi and dun give half a shit even if you plug'em into the mains wiring ) thought that somehow communism happened because of malevolent martians landing, rather than from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743681 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( from a fantasy-nostalgia song that contained said line , 'Как упоительны в России вечера, Любовь, шампанское, закаты, переулки. Ах, лето красное, забавы и прогулки, Как упоительны в России вечера. Балы, красавицы, лакеи, юнкера, И вальсы Шуберта, и хруст французской б
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:20 mircea_popescu: consider what the (immensely popular at the time) item says : "la tarani le-a luat pamintul, la studenti le-a luat cuvintul, la soferi le-a luat benzina, la prosti le facea cu mina". ie, the peasants HAD land. how ? when ? without the fucking communists the usg-alligned maniu, bratianu & friends would be STILL dithering over minor land distributions. exactly like the usgstan does.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 12:58 mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: socialism is naught else but a condensed 13yo, or at least all its anxieties and miscomprehensions, distilled into ideological form.
diana_coman: you know, this "fairness" thing doesn't stand 10 minutes face with reality even through a child's eyes; if only s/he doesn't try with all might to not look or something
mircea_popescu: discussions of "rape" in the public space today, as discussions of "unfairness" in the same public space a century ago are then all meaningless in the direct, simple manifestations of a doomed culture. "oh noes, our precious imaginary superiority was insulted by reality, there's a hole in the matrix through which you can perceive you AREN'T the single playing character in a WoWoW".
mircea_popescu: and turn it as i might, i can't separate the former from the hallucination of self-determination. rural "king of the world" in decayed to death sicily, dying british empire, romania throughout and recently the us cultural space imagines himself... in a position to... MAKE DECISIONS!!! has options! may at his leisure obey republic or not. and so on.
diana_coman: my point was there were none in his village/that he had a chance to even see at work /as an option before screwing it all and leaving rather than anything else
mircea_popescu: yes but field work, such as wheat, is very amenable to mecanization. gardening, barely if at all. if you hate the idiocy of mother nature (which i fuklly understand, caragiale's "da, duioasa mama ce-i drept... trebuie numa' s-o bati sa-i singerezi sinul pina sa se-ndure sa-ti dea o picatura de lapte..." is a great understatement, there's nothing more loatefuly and despicable than "mother" nature) you'd expect you'd prefer its
diana_coman: and ftr he always kept a perfectly well-worked garden ; at some point he even sold his produce in the market
mircea_popescu: poor rural modern (and i guess postmodern) societies will eat potato, it's exactly a "cheapest available" item as per above.
diana_coman: nope, he went away as young lad with pretty much whatever he could find; he tried them all from religious missionaries/sects/whatevers to singing; in the end he settled in town and worked as a worker in a factory, saved, bought some land, built the house *with his own hands* etc
mircea_popescu: i suppose the criticism is that "he reduced land diffusion, in that changed a situation where 10% owned some land to a situation where 0% owned some land"
mircea_popescu: in 1940 romania "had" gasoline in the sense whore has money : as a temporary conveyance, between the time punter gives it to her to take to the pimp and the time pimp gets it. in 1980 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737815 and yet... ceausescu TOOK the driver's gasoline ? which they naturally had, somehow, as their birthright ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: consider what the (immensely popular at the time) item says : "la tarani le-a luat pamintul, la studenti le-a luat cuvintul, la soferi le-a luat benzina, la prosti le facea cu mina". ie, the peasants HAD land. how ? when ? without the fucking communists the usg-alligned maniu, bratianu & friends would be STILL dithering over minor land distributions. exactly like the usgstan does. ☟︎
diana_coman: yes, exactly; tbh I hated the *mud* that made them a necessity, myeah
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lemme see if i can fish a pic somehiw
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 03:19 mircea_popescu: and in other "we are the asswipes, we programatically cut the very branch we sit on" lulz, "we did not choose the "new rothchilds" nor do we want them. if bitcoin cash is a means to stop these people then it appears that the votes are being cast as we speak. if bitcoin cash is just another version of the "new rothchilds" then the votes will be cast for the next usurper. there will always be an underdog".
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 04:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-29 13:16 mircea_popescu: take the general "entrepreneur", take paul biggar as a much better example. the kid is definitely intelligent. he wants to be an entrepreneur. which is a word, which has a meaning. he proceeds to usianize. this FAILS TO DELIVER, but a decade later he is STILL doing it. and apparently hasn't noticed ANYTHING about any of this. why not ?
mircea_popescu: exactly a rehash of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743513 which is itself exactly a rehash of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-29#1531002 and of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569609 and of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523091 and so on. ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: back to mr hobo, asciilifeform wonders how much of the peculiar landscape of poorfaggistan is made up of the fact that in many ways to have ~a little~ money is worse than to habitually have none at all
asciilifeform: and yes he could go and make money but then risks ending up as a programmer and whining about shitty kvms and no moar wall to hang lcd etc
asciilifeform: where's a hobo, incidentally, to keep money? up his arse ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the things that don't have to be imported (colonials : chocolate, coffee, fresh fruit of land and sea etc) are much preferable. whore suffers naught for a 10 hour trip in the plane ; tuna quite does.
mircea_popescu: if you run a farm you can just lasso the local cowsies, but if you run a IC plant you prolly have to attract foreigners.
asciilifeform: i get the impression that mircea_popescu ended up in more of a 'martian colony' position than he'd like -- stuck importing literally all of the necessities of life
mircea_popescu: well if your distance's 5"8 what can you do with a coupla 3"6s ?
mircea_popescu: though not on a per foot basis.
mircea_popescu: same reason i don't have a 4 byte index of 4bn tits.
asciilifeform: but other items, expensive ? what's a modest flat cost ?
mircea_popescu: girl here can be had for a hundy a night, and she'll be pliant. he can't get what he's looking for in the us, at any price ; nor can he really afford the 2-3k a night top shelf (ie, teens, tall, nice figure, good manners etc)
mircea_popescu: ie a coupla dozen dorks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "expats" are generally dorks come here a week-two at a time for the hookers.
mircea_popescu: cr regularily has a major euro excedent and dollar deficit (as it imports cars and shit from mexico for usd)
mircea_popescu: no, the problem is the unhappy meeting of a deeply rural population with the chinese empire.
asciilifeform: they won't buy sprats, or cotton shirts, why would apeman give a shit re of what is the shirt
asciilifeform: members of group 'c' presumably have already eaten their pistols. whereas members of groups 'a' and 'b' aren't particularly talkative. ergo the most regularly met with type, is 'd'.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743514 << the 4 possible types of people : a) those who had nfi wtf btc is and still have nfi b) those who bought btc by the trainload at <= 5bux c) who did not, and have no hallucinated defense mechanism in their head d) who did not, and have one ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:38 mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies ☝︎☟︎
trinque: relatedly, after last weeekend's work, I can actually write up how said anontits can receive their btc via deedbot. had to make it such that deedbot can pass over a new acct, but reliance on deedbot ends there for key to wallet mapping.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if you look, the brick is just cut to a concrete arch. faux.
mircea_popescu: this is always a disputable point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you fail to maintain a steel structure for long enough, it will rust in weak spots and bend under own weight.
asciilifeform: whaddayamean 'a building', i saw 100s
mircea_popescu: eh, the locals are retarded. there's a building right downtown, huge, ancient, derelict, standing there for decade+.
mircea_popescu: didja buy it a bacon "?
asciilifeform: and stopped to poke head into yards, 'hey maybe they need a dog'
mircea_popescu: should have to get a license to own dogs.
asciilifeform: light a detcord or sumthing else useful and pyrotechnic.
mircea_popescu: you can't light a cigar without "inhaling", goes right into it
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 23:26 asciilifeform: we already established that a hash collision is asteroid event for blockchain.
asciilifeform: three modest warheads, together weighing less than a toyota, and usd worth ~0 in short order, regardless of by what backed.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should put up a video lighting cigars with benjies or something.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ayup. but it's funny, you know, dude in a toyota going "hey mister, shitty imports are not reliable cars".
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, rot or non-rot shows equally at all levels, so it's rather hard to get much of a mixture of either side of it
asciilifeform: currently asciilifeform is barfing over the fact that adacore's gnat is happy to build static 'independent library' .a while gpl gcc's gnat barfs ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the cnat raed crowd of brogrammers didn't get ONE thing wrong. they got a whole list of things wrong (that they think is one single thing, but then again primitive man also has a single word for enemy, be it wolbachia, wolves or western men.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea.
asciilifeform: the other notion is that each shot oughta be a vpatch from previous . so also vtronics practice.
asciilifeform: yea, could ( tho i imagine a serious reader will need somewhat moar than 1hr to follow along )
asciilifeform: builds a static .a lib, linkable.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 18:17 asciilifeform: moral -- measure seven times, cut once, etc. ( asciilifeform for instance is stuck with a 2048b rsa, at least until we finally throw gpg )
asciilifeform: 'I am utterly frustrated with the software I have to deal with. Windows is beyond comprehension! UNIX is no better. DOS is no better. There is no reason for an OS. It is a non-thing. Maybe it was needed at one time.' etc.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in deaths: http://www.colorforth.com is now a link farm.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-19 22:55 punkman: "I actually have two implementations of example malicious signers:  One produces non-deterministic signatures and leaks a 256 bit private key, to the holder of a specific public key and no one else, in ~33 signatures with very high probability (failure rate of 1 in 1000 for 33 signatures, around 1 in a million for 34). The other produces a seemingly RFC 6979 like deterministic signatures and
asciilifeform: moral -- measure seven times, cut once, etc. ( asciilifeform for instance is stuck with a 2048b rsa, at least until we finally throw gpg ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: sadly for kjj, as i understand he is stuck with this key 4evah, unless he wants to buy a boeing for mpex...
asciilifeform: a trifecta.
asciilifeform: 'Prague's High Court on November 24 upheld a lower court's ruling allowing the extradition of Yevgeny Nikulin, whom the United States accuses of hacking computers and stealing information from major Internet companies including LinkedIn and Dropbox.'
mircea_popescu: kjj you can now self-voice btw. send !!up to deedbot in a pm whenever needed.
kjj: I put in a request on the 25th. haven't seen anything on that address yet
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 02:03 asciilifeform: similar reaction if you invite an american d00d into a house with no tv set
mircea_popescu: in other news, "come play with me" (1977) is such a confusing piece of nonsense...
asciilifeform: pet is a second pair of hands and in fact eats not so much.