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asciilifeform: sorta like dos 'sidekick' i guess
asciilifeform: ipnoje? they have a split screen thing.
asciilifeform: phf: if you're using mine, you will need to fix the sshd config to permit root login ( see the TomServo thread ). i really oughta post an updated image.
asciilifeform: phf: are you setting up a tabletop rockchip ?
asciilifeform: tty lives on 2 header pins
asciilifeform: power
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820776 << i randomly picked one of the items to read, and choked on the riotously long lines ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other lulz, crapple proclaims nomoar support for opengl on their 'os'
asciilifeform: relatedly, mircea_popescu-was-right(tm)(r), asciilifeform's blog nao has a broken stump instead of working commentron, because google's captcha crapola finally gave up the ghost, and nao i gotta figure out how to port mircea_popescu's routine...
asciilifeform: ( hm, nm, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1796255 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun recall if i mentioned : as of coupla wks ago, no moar 'emerge portage' on asciilifeform's-ban-masks gentoo boxen : it now ~demands~ gpg2 turd. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loox good !
asciilifeform: ( no expenditure items yet on this proj )
asciilifeform: a rockchip cluster under snsa banner , for pizarro, also under construction ( currently still in component search phase ) , construction also planned for this mo ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( tho i am certainly hoping to begin selling pre-cured c101pa boxen in ~this~ mo )
asciilifeform: not afaik
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had an article where 'the carpenter said, i will stand here and hold the wall up, for small fee..'
asciilifeform: not merely of poor programming.
asciilifeform: the 'web dev' nonsense where 'same code written every 6mo' is symptom of a poorly-defined problem to begin with; sorta like wound sutures that reopen
asciilifeform: again in some subfields there is a famine of solid code, in others -- not ( the payware c compiler people, microshit aside, mostly have starved, afaik )
asciilifeform: some activities have this problem, others not ( restauranteurs do not have to contend with a 'i dun need to eat, i already ate in 2011' )
asciilifeform: 'i sold indestructible, perfect $tool to all $n possible buyers, nao what do i eat'
asciilifeform: ( tho, -- iirc it was orlol -- had a pertinent piece, on the unremovable disincentive for market players against selling durable, quality items that never need replacement or 'upgrade' etc )
asciilifeform: disease of konsoomer.
asciilifeform: imho, part of smart engineering is to know not to do this. 'jet engine welded to zaporozhets'.
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, the pain of 'modern' html, exactly mirrors the pain of vt 'enhanced' with 'terminal control' gnarl, 35 yrs ago )
asciilifeform: i use it every day, even tho i have never touched original vt.
asciilifeform: no moar than vt100 is 'dead tech'
asciilifeform: sure.
asciilifeform: this -- is true. scripting lang, however, has a place in life outside of wwwism -- for throwaway experiments, e.g. http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000296.html , and similar
asciilifeform: spyked .
asciilifeform: html replacement is orthogonal, imho, problem.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform in particular is looking to ditch python, bash, etc box of rusty nails.
asciilifeform: ( tldr : something like 'tinyscheme', but in heapless ada, and with deliberately no gc )
asciilifeform: iirc we had a thread, where asciilifeform outlined a proper scripting lang.
asciilifeform: to anyone.
asciilifeform: *surprise
asciilifeform: this is not a susprise, i think.
asciilifeform: junkyard wars (e.g. trb, mp-wp) where one is stuck welding a tank from 5 zaporozhets and 3 lada carcasses, because that's what there is to work with, inevitably are heavyweight ☟︎
asciilifeform: actually i suspect that this is one of those items that will be very short and sweet , when made from first principles under a future http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789682 system ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, asciilifeform has ~own~ 'mp-wp' , made from ~same vintage of wp, that does admittedly only half of what mircea_popescu's does ( i dun have the spam filtration ) )
asciilifeform: i fully believe it
asciilifeform: ( not counting, naturally, openssl, bdb, etc )
asciilifeform: trb is, what, 25k-loc.
asciilifeform: ( as described by naggum & elsewhere, in the 'bathtub' piece )
asciilifeform: nao, if phf can make his vtron handle 'arbitrary' (say, up to avail. ram) masses, and without losing anything, moar power to him. but in practice something is usually sacrificed, in the name of speed/efficiency, is the worrisome bit.
asciilifeform: fast comp -- breeds bloat, apparently.
asciilifeform: but history of pc , suggests grimly that they cannot
asciilifeform: all else being equal, tool that laughs at arbitrary masses of payload is theoretically better ( if folx can be trusted to 'keep it in their pants' and not to use it as excuse for bloat )
asciilifeform: when approaching this mass, really oughta start cutting into orthogonal subsystems. and if you can't cut, the design is broken.
asciilifeform disagrees that any proggy's src has any business whatsoever weighing 1MB, much less 9MB
asciilifeform: phf: trb is, what, 800kB, and already imho 'weighs' ~10+ yrs worth of study to fully grasp
asciilifeform: ( seealso, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793733 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: in other funnies: the preface in http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/trb-build-instructions.html .
asciilifeform: ( in unrelated entomo-lulz : https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-04#22258989 )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: very spiffy; i have added your tests to the FG www links.
asciilifeform: incidentally ~same pill will work to cure other arm64 chrome iron. afaik the c101pa is the only one with ips panel tho, currently.
asciilifeform: it's a pretty spiffy, ironwise, comp. costs less than a third of what ipnoje costs, even.
asciilifeform: ahahayes
asciilifeform: perhaps soon we can issue real comps to folx like this.
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: been joinparting all day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is this one of your pets ?
asciilifeform: !!up yesplease
asciilifeform: i specifically lulled over ( and in prev thread in that heathen pit, similarly ) the 'security model'
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, i think he was the builder.
asciilifeform: ( building it, is a whole new mountain of shit to climb )
asciilifeform: and confessed re where the mislabeled vendor src lives.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d grudgingly revealed a few hidden boobytraps, that each would take coupla wks at least, otherwise, to defuse.
asciilifeform: https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-03#22252959; << in further lulz
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/J7Aey/?raw=true << amd64 gnat dun build on arm64. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the makeopts in the config files dun do anything, tho, you gotta e.g. export MAKEOPTS="-j32 in your shell prior to building.
asciilifeform: pretty neat.
asciilifeform: oh btw ave1's script also has working interrupt/resume nao.
asciilifeform: (mine is a 2GHz, even)
asciilifeform: upstack -- rk3328-roc-cc , in case anyone forgot, is a 4core beast; c101pa is a rk3399 with 6 core. oughta be snappier for builds.
asciilifeform: after that : to patch the gcc , to cure http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819935 ill. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the next step will be to get the dep tarball links the hell off adacore's www, and onto our own cuntoo mirror.
asciilifeform: ( for bonus slowness, this one's running off a sd card.. )
asciilifeform: prolly will chug for day or 2.
asciilifeform: aaaand now i'ma have it build itself (and amd64, etc) , on that very same arm box.
asciilifeform: !!v 3698DDABEEEB8FC1ECD805E04E22C9E96FCE12264CBF60C7553A8CA582BB4CDF
asciilifeform: !!rate ave1 3 baked a working retargetable, musltronic gnat ; see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-03#1820427 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820249 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( mine's in pieces, presently, i am soldering a firmware refill umbilical to it )
asciilifeform: ... this also means that c101pa ( as soon as i have a ready to roll firmware for it ) will be an out-of-the-box gnat dev station.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: all you gotta do is build, then put the tarball on your rc box, extract, and add to .bashrc e.g. PATH="/home/stas/gnat/aarch64-linux-musl-native/bin/:$PATH"; export PATH and you're up & running.
asciilifeform: diana_coman : musltronic gnat on arm64 confirmed to work !
asciilifeform: well recall, this is soft-innerloopmul variant.
asciilifeform: aaaaand hammingweight-independent constanttimeism on arm64 confirmed.
asciilifeform: on ch10 ffa: exponentiator test from end of ch.7 runs in 9.2s on dulap, and 28.4s on the test rk3328-roc-cc machine, producing correct output.
asciilifeform: which passes test.
asciilifeform: ch10 ffa builds a (stripped) 320kB elf ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: aaaaaand it worx !!
asciilifeform: !!up mitch_callahan
asciilifeform: ... a rk3328-roc-cc is now ready, now loading the tarball to it, about to come to the magic moment
asciilifeform: ( -j32 )