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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't this require a thiel to show up to bankroll $kid's suit ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If anything the tort in this case is clearer
mircea_popescu: see, the old british ban on champerty & maintenance meanwhile dead. the fact that it happened to rando kid dun matter, trial can be bought.
BingoBoingo: Recently (within the past two months) WaPo's slate magazine hired one of the more flamboyant Gawker alumni to do a "sex column" with some burnt out porn chick turned old woman
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thiel killing gawker, sure ; rando kid vs volkischer beobachter ? will be odd if it dun get 'appealed' for 25 yrs, until $kid dies of hunger
BingoBoingo: You mean this case? http://qntra.net/2016/03/hulk-hogan-wins-revenge-porn-suit-against-gawker-media/
mircea_popescu: dood thought he can get just the nobel prize.
mircea_popescu: apparently if you sign up to star in one usg.blue production, you're stuck doing all the sequels also.
mircea_popescu: for that matter -- lulz of all time here, oscar arias, very much http://trilema.com/2019/wild-is-the-wind/#footnote_1_82681 item, now #metoo'd.
mircea_popescu: watch them lose, get gutted, etc. anyone recall ALL THE OTHER pantsuit vehicles, meanwhile gutted in exact same manner ?
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/ohio-teen-sues-washington-post-for-250-million-usd-in-damages-over-harassment-campaign-spearheaded-by-organization/ << Qntra -- Ohio Teen Sues Washington Post For 250 Million USD In Damages Over Harassment Campaign Spearheaded By Organization
BingoBoingo: Se extraño a toxicodendron
mircea_popescu: apparently the dogs can learn to give it a berth. great perfume too
asciilifeform: i suspect also that erry sargeant in erry unit on planet, also could summarize compactly.
asciilifeform: re the penicillin -- also compactly summarized in http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/#selection-3501.0-3501.226
asciilifeform: ( cabbage -- much moar toxin by mass, but we have the enzymes )
asciilifeform: fulla poison. animal kingdom dun sit still tho, which is why we think of e.g. belladonna as poisonous but not cabbage
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: virtually errything that grows on satan's green earth
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is interestingly imho reminiscent of plant toxin , d00d couldn't think of anyffin but 'let's make it poison' in re defense << Datura
asciilifeform maintains a kind of purgatory for these , in #a, and it is quite cheap on acct of the fact that usually only takes'em a coupla hrs to realize that no, this aint the fungal farm, fungal farm is three doors down, and then go to where their place is.
asciilifeform: the benighted folx who 'wai is mircea_popescu so eager to hit us with spiked club', i can tell they never cell cultured.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff asciilifeform was just recently describing to pet , how mircea_popescu's pesticide worx, and finally clicked when i 'recall cell culture ? when yer growing eukaryotes, you add antibiotic, or guess what dish will be full of next day' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing a reign of terror, merely intolerance.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898163 << could be quite interesting read. didjaknow, for instance, that the javatards got showered with enuff printolade that they baked chips ? and that none of these were in any sense commercial success ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: also matters to actually plow the field, and even matters with what (iron beats wooden stick) and so forth.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 16:26 mircea_popescu: THAT is what it hinges on.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898157 << i dun even disagree that nuffin's worth doing if you don't kill the locusts first. but also imho gotta other things , the result of 'pesticide uber alles' agriculture is monsantostan. ☝︎
mircea_popescu studiously and quite deliberately ignored the whole thing as a wikitarida/reddit of its time.
mircea_popescu: they failed to identify the victims, and failed to victimize them.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 16:08 asciilifeform: various folx attempted something roughly like this, but succumbed to own idiocy -- e.g. the java people, who 1) wrapped their 'vm' around the nonsensical shape of their tardlang 2) stopped short of 'and no this doesn't run on your tard os, is IS the os, fuckyou' ;
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898149 << why. cuz republic without republic, how the fuck is it supposed to stand. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: as long as the tim swansons of the world remain an oppressed minority, the world can be sane ; and not futher.
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be difficult to notice that the "gcc plugging wrong end of funnel" is not simple coincidence, but the necessary result of the feelings and optionalities these idiots perceive themselves to be having without actually having them.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:54 asciilifeform: i hold that the answr to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898121 quandary depends on whether the right cut of that knot is made. and imho ^ is that cut.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898132 << absolutely not. it strictly depends on whether we can continue maintaining the productive atmosphere, in which http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892732 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876358 etc continue to be pissed in the face in the most baffling and painful manner where they feel that "they have horsepower" and the measurement comes back "get the fuck lost, moron". ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform brb, teatime
asciilifeform: or the deathbed bolix people, who did ~99% of the job but sank on the titanic of the dec alpha, the only arch they managed to massage into compliance before ran out of dough
asciilifeform: or gabriel_laddel, who thought that linux kernel is an acceptable item to build the '256kB' out of, through power of magical thinking
asciilifeform: various folx attempted something roughly like this, but succumbed to own idiocy -- e.g. the java people, who 1) wrapped their 'vm' around the nonsensical shape of their tardlang 2) stopped short of 'and no this doesn't run on your tard os, is IS the os, fuckyou' ; ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: nao tbf, this approach was not available to the gnu people, on acct of sheer poverty of 1980s, when erry byte & cycle counted, and 'must not waste' , yer entire memory space in 1985 might be 256kB. but today plenty of 'what to waste', why not 'waste' for actual gain ( like bitcoin 'wasted' mains current ) , rather than microshit/gnu-style.
asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that any other approach to the problem (i.e. 'we'll do exactly what the gnutards did, but they were mice and we are men' ) is certain to degenerate into ~same rubbish as what the gnutards ended up with.
asciilifeform: yer still stuck with certain idjicies of iron (e.g. dma) but then when finally bake new iron, you have a ready compiler & userland to plant on it, that actually behaves.
asciilifeform: the Right Thing will look roughly like a 256kB chunk of asm that the box boots straight into, and afterwards forgets that it's an x86, arm, etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit some insane nonsense "feels like" it's doing "a lot of work". the work done is measured at the useful end.
asciilifeform: it was this very front that asciilifeform published the sage thing for.
mircea_popescu: that "% of horse power" is entirely not % of horse power ; the measure of horse power is at the torque end, not at horse's feelings end.
asciilifeform: absolutely that.
mircea_popescu: imo is the perfect approach to "you wish to use insane hw, you pay cost for it".
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:43 mircea_popescu: whether that can be remedied in a group or not remains, i suppose, to be seen.
asciilifeform: i hold that the answr to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898121 quandary depends on whether the right cut of that knot is made. and imho ^ is that cut. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: rather than bloating erry single binary on the box with identical chunks of sanitycheck
asciilifeform: all the bounds checks, exception handling liquishit, etc. that gnat shits out, oughta be happening in either silicon ( which we aint baking yet ) or failing that, in the 'sane arch emulator'
asciilifeform: this'd cost, yes, some % of horsepower, but in exchange gets a 100klok toolchain instead of millions of ??? loc
asciilifeform: really oughta have ~1~ compiler, and for a sane arch; and if yet cannot afford to actually siliconize the sane arch, then the sad iron oughta be booting straight in bios to a compact (asmistic) emulator of same ☟︎
asciilifeform: i also suspect that on modern irons, 'retargetable compiler' is plugging the wrong end of the funnel.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 18:44 asciilifeform: nao tbf could even make same observation re emacs ( it's never the 1970s c core that bombs, always extension script that hangs )
mircea_popescu: ie, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889245 is rather the result of "squeezing the most juice broken pliers permit" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i very much don't expect you want the prb 12 that is emacs. rewrite yes ? :D
mircea_popescu: certainly it will have to come before any kind of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897705 job, because very strictly speaking you can't write a working user enviroment on top of extant gcc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's a standard 'spittoon in one strand' : for so long as you retain ~any of the c liquishit, yer stuck with gcc ( which is the only thing that builds it , the 'portability' of the lang is a fiction from day 1 )
mircea_popescu: whether that can be remedied in a group or not remains, i suppose, to be seen. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: maybe 98. but in any case, the only discernible reason anyone uses it is that everyone is, individually, too lazy to write a proper one.
asciilifeform: i fully expect ^ adds up to ~100% of the c opensores mass, yes
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:12 mircea_popescu: well, either that or they o(N) + n log n for some values of N, n.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:05 asciilifeform: ( and when found that ~despite this~, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2906 , was pant-shittingly hilarious, how koch still managed to be the tortoise in the race )
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 23:42 asciilifeform: ( for n00bz: ) writing a compiler back-end aint actually hard. asciilifeform & many many other folx, did it ~as homework~ , at school. the hard thing is writing a ~decent~ optimizing backend.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:49 mircea_popescu: see, engineers are worse than whores. a whore might pretend like she's not working, but an engineer does inept shit like "/* This should optimize out, but it is wise to make sure this assumption is correct. Should these have different sizes, we cannot cast between them and the overlaying onto ERRATIC will not work. */" so as to ~pretend~ like he doesn't see WHY exactly he wants to take that code out. seriously, ooga-booga-bu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:22 mircea_popescu: holy shit, EVERY SINGLE THING. look here :
mircea_popescu: it seems rather obvious that the 2020-2025 republican future will consist of a whole lotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897560 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897468 etc as we unwind the "optimizing" part in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897829 and discover a whole lotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897689 and http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897536 ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform sees linux kernel, gcc, ftr, as 'life support' item, rather like trb -- worth freezing and maintaining until proper replacement, but not really items with a serious future
mircea_popescu: now we're left with all those bleaters with livers, that are also spurious. "but mp, why won't you go into the liver ?" "wut ?"
asciilifeform: it is interestingly imho reminiscent of plant toxin , d00d couldn't think of anyffin but 'let's make it poison' in re defense
asciilifeform: successfully turned vegetable
mircea_popescu: these two tend to go hand in hand yes.
asciilifeform: afaik they no longer think anyffin
mircea_popescu: their window's closed, nobody cares what they think nao.
mircea_popescu: they should have built an army in the 90s, rather than go for weakass jwz-catering.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-10 06:25 asciilifeform: mats: gcc... a) i dont get it... << what's the hard concept here? rms wishes to avoid gcc turning into a sweet and defenceless piece of candy for the 'embrace & extend/extinguish' folks.
asciilifeform: see related thrd, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-10#972076 , re similar in gcc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the computing 90s are soon to be just a memory, as these artefacts of sheer wtf slowly disappear.
mircea_popescu: in utter fucking lulz : https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22To+help+you+detect+if+your+log+format+is+good%2C+Awstats%22&t=ffsb&ia=web ; meanwhile in the actual config files, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rXwyg/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ( he saw the notion as 'making life too easy' for nvidia & other blob pushers )
asciilifeform: the most rampant inconsistency, btw, is not even in the userland abi, but in driver (module) end
mircea_popescu: something like that
mircea_popescu: item is doomed to v-fication, seeing how http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897817 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at the worst this'll get us a nibler notion of the gcc tree.
asciilifeform: i.e. if digging up a vintage kernel, would also have to take up the gcc from the period, or backport the current one, as i understand
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 01:00 trinque: relatedly, here's a worthy task for an idle hand : find the oldest kernel you can boot on hardware you're willing to use
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898063 << very good idea; sadly pertinent , however , is the abi breakage ( chronicled e.g. here : https://archive.is/8j7m0 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 04:54 mircea_popescu: "as a language, it requires you to specify in great detail what you do not know in order to obtain the experience necessary to learn it."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898072 << i suspect he was barfing on the 'interfaces' thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other obscura that apparently exists, https://www.webmasterworld.com/
mircea_popescu: trinque did you ever see the guy irl lately ? say this year or something ? ☟︎
a111: 2018-12-10 <ben_vulpes> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-16#1835094 << i did not know that statically-compiled mysql was solved; is it?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-vii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of July, August and September, 1716. - Part VII.
mircea_popescu: well what the fuck. like on earth turns out to be just as philosophically and cognitively unsound. which it is.
mircea_popescu: "as a language, it requires you to specify in great detail what you do not know in order to obtain the experience necessary to learn it." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this sounds quite persuasively elegant and so on. but then,
mircea_popescu: "C++ is philosophically and cognitively unsound as it forces a violation of all known epistemological processes on the programmer."
nicoleci: in latest http://trilema.com/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/#selection-453.43-453.86 news, google plus is being shut down " due to low usage and challenges involved in maintaining a successful product".