asciilifeform: phf: this is an unfortunate fact of life for state machine, but it is to be ~fought~, not give in to.
asciilifeform: re ifdef, n00bz are invited to study how the c preprocessor worx, and shudder at e.g. the fact that they can contain ~other~ ifdef's, which in turn can change the meaning of ~any~ string in the proggy
asciilifeform: but dollars to doughnuts if you dun have e.g. pdp11, you won't bother reading its ifdef blocks; and supposing you did read'em, your grasp of what takes place inside won't be worth much if you don't regularly inhabit that platform☟︎
asciilifeform: correct, the 'could' is inaccessible.
asciilifeform: unless you actually went and studied what happens in each possible combo of toggles
asciilifeform: phf: that's rather exactly what you're signing when you sign a proggy with inactivated #ifdefolade
asciilifeform: phf: however it ends up defined, signing coad you could not possibly have run, and which -- given how c worx -- could contain literally ~anything~ -- can't possibly be The Right Thing
asciilifeform: i've prolly signed a #ifdef DEC_PDP11 piece of shit at some point. dun mean it ain't a sin.
asciilifeform: it is for this reason that asciilifeform cut most ( unfortunately not all, there is room for improvement! ) ifdefolade, out of trb.
asciilifeform: because otherwise, folx are in effect signing coad they could not possibly have tested.
asciilifeform: ( a proggy that can't get by without'em, really oughta be split into vtrees per idjit os/iron/etc that were formerly ifdef'd coadpaths )
asciilifeform: phf: if the support is implemented with #ifdef's, then it really gotta go imho
asciilifeform: programming already mostly done under anaesthetic, consider how many of the practitioners won't even report for dooty if they're out of $substance
asciilifeform: right, folx who insist on using heathen ??? toolchain, are on their own.
asciilifeform: i abolished it in trb ( rotor ) , ave1 -- for gnat, and really ought to end with the logical conclusion, standard cuntoo musl/headers/gcc.
asciilifeform: the nonsense where each builder has own ball of ??? masquerading as a working toolchain/headers/etc set, has gone on long enuff imho
asciilifeform: phf: right, but if errrybody is building off same libcism, proggies will be massaged until builds without eggog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do the inca ( err, the classical ones, in south a. ) have analogous enzyme for coca ?
asciilifeform: ( speaking of which... anybody hear from gabriel_laddel lately ..? )
asciilifeform: aha, hence the typical end of career, where d00d cools heels in a jail for a spell, then, gets out, buys his old dose, 'celebrate'
asciilifeform: in reich courts, facts are entirely optional, 'mens rea' suffices, 'he thought it was a genuine death ray', 'he bought the sugar from usg agent thinking it was cocaine, guilty of 25 pound of cocaine, 25 to life, next' etc.☟︎
asciilifeform: d00d must've suffered from light trigger
asciilifeform: iirc it's the strongest known local anaesthetic.. why wouldja put it on cock
asciilifeform: 'McMonegal then laundered the Bitcoin proceeds of his drug distribution through an undercover agent located in New York. After receiving the Bitcoin from McMonegal, the undercover agent mailed parcels of cash to McMonegal in San Luis Obispo and Mariposa' << wat even.
asciilifeform: this just gets lulzier, 'Porras and Vue then laundered the Bitcoin proceeds of their drug distribution through the HSI undercover agent located in New York' << hey mircea_popescu didja know that btc had to be 'laundered' ?
asciilifeform: 'At the time of arrest, law enforcement had already seized approximately $437,000 in cryptocurrencies from Powell' << do they have some very speshul hot irons installed at police station nao, or how else 'time of arrest' cokemachine.
asciilifeform: '...numerous U.S. Postal Service shipping boxes, already addressed to customers around the United States, which boxes contained hairbrushes some of which had already been packed with powder cocaine for distribution' << lol!!
asciilifeform: ( it is prolly analogous to asciilifeform's feat, some yrs ago, of building working microshit drivers using gcc )
asciilifeform: i'm actually impressed that you folx managed to build any of it on a human compiler
asciilifeform: ( pretty much requires dedicated box where you set up ~their~ crapola, all the way down , to build any of it )
asciilifeform: they run on trooly vertically-integrated arse-mouth system, verily; asciilifeform to this day has not succeeded in building any of their 'open' sores of e.g. cr50
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll be the 1st to point out that this puzzler is out of asciilifeform's depth, lessee what mircea_popescu thinks
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829972 << pnojeism is a much larger problem than merely crapple, and is really an entire constellation of dysfunctions enabled not by the turdalicious gadgets themselves but, as iirc mircea_popescu pointed out repeatedly, by issuing pseudo-comps to folx who ought to be operating plows and oxcarts fulltime☝︎
